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Paris75
Oct 17th, 2007, 08:09 PM
Why does Jankovic lost 4/6 4/6 against Vaidisova ?
Why does Ivanovic lost 3/6 1/6 against Golovin ?
Why does Chakvetadze lost 3 match in a row ?
Why do Petrova and Sharapova are injured ?

BECAUSE The calendar is tooo long, players are exhausted ...

Resident Evil
Oct 17th, 2007, 08:12 PM
I got school 365 days a year. Get over it. It's a job and something needs to do it.

goldenlox
Oct 17th, 2007, 08:17 PM
I'm amazed Jankovic can still play at all. She's crazy.
Anna wanted to take a break for one week. She's fine.

Russianboy
Oct 17th, 2007, 08:18 PM
I got school 365 days a year. Get over it. It's a job and something needs to do it.

:lol: good one. same for me :wavey:

Resident Evil
Oct 17th, 2007, 08:21 PM
Not to mention they take health dietary products to increase their longevity. And they have physical trainers and what not.

Ingokoer
Oct 17th, 2007, 08:21 PM
Why does Jankovic lost 4/6 4/6 against Vaidisova ?
Why does Ivanovic lost 3/6 1/6 against Golovin ?
Why does Chakvetadze lost 3 match in a row ?
Why do Petrova and Sharapova are injured ?

BECAUSE The calendar is tooo long, players are exhausted ...


Your point is ridiculous. Nobody has forced these players to play so much tournaments in a row, especially JJ has played more than any other person, even every crap Tier III tournament she entered, that is really nothing what is necessary when you are a Top 10 player. So you have to blame the players for their decisions, not the calendar.

OsloErik
Oct 17th, 2007, 08:23 PM
Why does Jankovic lost 4/6 4/6 against Vaidisova ?
Why does Ivanovic lost 3/6 1/6 against Golovin ?
Why does Chakvetadze lost 3 match in a row ?
Why do Petrova and Sharapova are injured ?

BECAUSE The calendar is tooo long, players are exhausted ...

Well, that's one explanation.

I'd argue that: Jankovic overplayed this year, and Chakvetadze is suffering mental withdrawal after a letting golden opportunity for a slam final fall apart. Plus, Vaidisova isn't exactly a pushover, and Chakvetadze has only lost to top 20 players since the US Open.

Ivanovic is streaky, and Golovin is hardly a nobody.

Petrova and Sharapova are injured for a variety of reasons, and overplaying isn't the fault of the calendar. If you wanted to, you only have to play 5 tournaments. That's not an awful lot. I'd argue it's because their bodies aren't built properly for the stress they put on it with their games. They play too physically for their body types, and they should know better than to play heavy schedules with those problems.

Petrova has been over taxing her body for four years now, and Sharapova is the victim of her limitations; her attempts to become more well rounded as a player have decreased the number of hours she can play. If she strikes the right balance, she can still be number one.

Henin had the same problem in '04 after she bulked up for the '03 season and played around 20 tournaments; now, she plays very selectively, and paces her year extremely shrewdly. The Williams do that as well, although the technical deficiency of their game leads to injuries regardless. That doesn't mean they (Sharapova, Venus and Serena, Justine, etc.) are bad players, just that they need to find the right balance between fitness, power, all-around ability, and scheduling. There's not much that the tour can do about it.

homogenius
Oct 17th, 2007, 08:24 PM
Maybe the calendar is too long but what you mention in your list has nothing to do with that so...

Matt01
Oct 17th, 2007, 08:52 PM
Your point is ridiculous. Nobody has forced these players to play so much tournaments in a row, especially JJ has played more than any other person, even every crap Tier III tournament she entered, that is really nothing what is necessary when you are a Top 10 player. So you have to blame the players for their decisions, not the calendar.

Exactly.

I'm not saying the calendar is perfect because it's not, there are several things that could and should be improved, but I don't really think that the season is too long.

Direwolf
Oct 17th, 2007, 09:05 PM
Why does Jankovic lost 4/6 4/6 against Vaidisova ?
Why does Ivanovic lost 3/6 1/6 against Golovin ?
Why does Chakvetadze lost 3 match in a row ?
Why do Petrova and Sharapova are injured ?

BECAUSE The calendar is tooo long, players are exhausted ...

YOU KNOW BITCH...
THERE ISNT ONE PLAYER OUT THERE WHO DOESNT GET INJURED.
LIKE JANKOVIC
hahaha!!!

theses are professional players.
ask them to stop playing for 3 weeks..
and they would become psychotic!!
they live for the sport...
theyre sports addict.!!

and theyre only required to play 17 tournaments
thats only
6*2=12+11=23+3=26
so thats 26 weeks of required tennis
in a span of 11 months!!!

mboyle
Oct 17th, 2007, 09:15 PM
Why does Jankovic lost 4/6 4/6 against Vaidisova ?
Why does Ivanovic lost 3/6 1/6 against Golovin ?
Why does Chakvetadze lost 3 match in a row ?
Why do Petrova and Sharapova are injured ?

BECAUSE The calendar is tooo long, players are exhausted ...

Vaidisova has a winning head to head against Jankovic. Even this year, when Nicole has played, she has done as well as Jankovic in points per tournament.

Golovin is the only player to take a set off Justine since this summer. Ivanovic lost last week to Bondarenko. Exhaustion is hardly an excuse for Ivanovic, who schedules her tournaments intelligently.

Really the culprit here is not the length of the season, but rather the ranking system. If we had the divisor ranking back, Vaidisova defeating Jankovic would not seem shocking at all. Golovin over Ivanovic wouldn't be as much of a shock as it seems now.

Ballbasher
Oct 17th, 2007, 09:19 PM
Masha is not injured because of the # of tournaments she played this season she had that damn injury all season :sad:

Svetlana.
Oct 17th, 2007, 09:36 PM
Nothing wrong with the calendar... and players cannot get it all. Girls need to prioritize and be more reasonable when they commit to play certain events.

DutchieGirl
Oct 17th, 2007, 09:41 PM
Why does Jankovic lost 4/6 4/6 against Vaidisova ?
Why does Ivanovic lost 3/6 1/6 against Golovin ?
Why does Chakvetadze lost 3 match in a row ?
Why do Petrova and Sharapova are injured ?

BECAUSE The calendar is tooo long, players are exhausted ...

Get back to us when you actually have plausible reason to prove the calendar is too long. ;)

LUXXXAS
Oct 17th, 2007, 09:41 PM
players are just stupid! they are playing too much.
Look at Justine - she's No. 1 with 14 tournament played! She's healthy! And she plays more matches in a single tournament than other players because she's winning almost everything so she's exhausted too.
Calendar is good for her :D

cozy411
Oct 17th, 2007, 11:19 PM
players are just stupid! they are playing too much.
Look at Justine - she's No. 1 with 14 tournament played! She's healthy! And she plays more matches in a single tournament than other players because she's winning almost everything so she's exhausted too.
Calendar is good for her :D

Technically justine just pulled out of moscow last week with "injury" :devil:

For the people who think the calendar is not to blame the calendar for both tours is way too long that is why both tours are revising their schedules for 2009/2010

mckyle.
Oct 18th, 2007, 09:45 AM
These are professional athletes. They should be able to handle it.

Renalicious
Oct 18th, 2007, 09:47 AM
The players can play if they want and they dont have to play many tournaments. The calendar isn't too long.

ce
Oct 18th, 2007, 09:52 AM
I got school 365 days a year. Get over it. It's a job and something needs to do it.

sad:sad: but true:tape: :lol:

DutchieGirl
Oct 18th, 2007, 11:35 AM
Technically justine just pulled out of moscow last week with "injury" :devil:

For the people who think the calendar is not to blame the calendar for both tours is way too long that is why both tours are revising their schedules for 2009/2010

Yes, because the revised schedule is so much shorter than this year...NOT! :lol: The season will finish for the women AT BEST 2 weeks earlier than now. That's really gonna make a hell of alot of difference.

Shvedbarilescu
Oct 18th, 2007, 11:35 AM
Why does Jankovic lost 4/6 4/6 against Vaidisova ?
Why does Ivanovic lost 3/6 1/6 against Golovin ?
Why does Chakvetadze lost 3 match in a row ?
Why do Petrova and Sharapova are injured ?

BECAUSE The calendar is tooo long, players are exhausted ...

I'm not going to argue about the length of the season one can make a case that it is too long but I'm inclinded to think the season should be long and it is the players responsibility to find spaces in that season to rest. Fact is Sharapova isn't injured because the season is too long and she has been playing too much, she is not a player who is prone to overplaying, she is just unlucky. Injuries happen and they always will, regretable as that may be.

But to get to the main point, I don't have a problem with players losing to opponents who are ranked below them. I can't for the life of me see what is so terrible about Jankovic losing to Vaidisova, and I don't even like Vaidisova. What is so wrong with players losing to opponents they were expected to beat? This has always happened, and thank God for that. Consider the alternative; players always winning against unfancied opponents and upsets a thing of the past. What an exciting sport tennis would be then. Personally I feel the game is much healthier when the gap between the top players and those under them is at its smallest and upsets occur more frequently.

gaggleguy
Oct 18th, 2007, 12:34 PM
Why do Petrova and Sharapova are injured ?

BECAUSE The calendar is tooo long, players are exhausted ...


umm no

Petrova is injured because she plays 25 tourneys 5 years in a row

Sharapova is injured because all that human growth hormone she was probably taking made her shoulders too big and ruined her joints

M&M
Oct 18th, 2007, 01:38 PM
well, every player is responsible for their own schedule. i mean if justine wants to play only 13 tournaments a year and be number one and jankovic plays 30 tournaments and wants to be number 2 in da world and tired, then it's their own business...

nobody forces them to play every week...