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rada
Oct 16th, 2007, 04:50 AM
Yes that's right she is back in melbouren :)

October 16, 2007 01:24pm
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FORMER Wimbledon semi-finalist Jelena Dokic has returned to Australia in another attempt to revive her stop-start tennis career.

The 24-year-old's world ranking has dropped to an arbitrary position of No.9999 as she has zero ranking points.

It is almost two years since Dokic's last serious comeback attempt, when she won the Australian Open wildcard event, only to bow out in the first round of the 2006 Open to Virginie Razzano of France.

It was Dokic's only grand slam tournament since 2004.

She reached a career-high ranking of No.4 in 2002, two years after reaching the Wimbledon semi-finals, before her promising career went into freefall.

Dokic, who holds dual Australian and Serbian citizenship and is based in Zagreb, is understood to have arrived in Melbourne last weekend.

She initially changed nationality from Australian to Yugoslavian (and then Serbian) in 2001 after father Damir claimed the Australian Open draw had been rigged against her.

Dokic later fell out with her father.

Tennis Australia welcomed the talented baseliner back into the fold in 2005, although they have had only sporadic contact with her since early 2006.

~Eclipsed~
Oct 16th, 2007, 04:53 AM
I dont mean to rain on your parade, but i doubt this means anything. :shrug:

Natash.
Oct 16th, 2007, 04:53 AM
Jelena. :sad:

Good luck. Hopefully you do go through with this "comeback". But I'm not expecting too much.

venus_rulez
Oct 16th, 2007, 05:22 AM
ANy news about her is positive to me. It's still in you Jelena!

Highlandman
Oct 16th, 2007, 05:35 AM
It would be wonderful if she is really back :D Hopefully she really wants a REAL comeback now and not just here and there a 10k :p

Already one year ago when she came to Pilic :eek: - and also almost one ago when she left.

Andy.
Oct 16th, 2007, 07:43 AM
If I was Tennis Australia I wouldnt take her back not after all she has done in terms of turning her back on the country that has supported her and trained her as a player. She turned her back on Australia too many times and gave up when she had our support last time.

n.sad
Oct 16th, 2007, 07:59 AM
If I was Tennis Australia I wouldnt take her back not after all she has done in terms of turning her back on the country that has supported her and trained her as a player. She turned her back on Australia too many times and gave up when she had our support last time.

I agree with you, I wish her a good luck but if this is part of the plan of Bikic brothers then :help:

So Disrespectful
Oct 16th, 2007, 08:48 AM
Jelena, please just train and play.

tenn_ace
Oct 16th, 2007, 08:52 AM
is the phsyco coach with her? if yes, she is wasting her time.

jd4eva
Oct 16th, 2007, 10:09 AM
This article is slightly more in-depth:

http://au.sports.yahoo.com/071016/2/1fz10.html

Dokic back to kick-start career, again
Tuesday October 16, 5:22 PM
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Former Wimbledon semi-finalist Jelena Dokic has returned to Australia in yet another attempt to revive her stop-start tennis career.
Tennis Australia (TA) has again pledged to provide support for the talented and controversial Dokic, whose world ranking has dropped to an arbitrary position of No.9999 as she has zero ranking points.
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It was Dokic's only grand slam tournament since 2004.
The 24-year-old reached a career-high ranking of No.4 in 2002, two years after advancing to the Wimbledon semi-finals, before her promising career went into freefall.
Dokic, who holds dual Australian and Serbian citizenship and is now based in Zagreb, arrived in Melbourne last weekend after making contact with TA's director of player development Craig Tiley.
Tiley is expected to meet Dokic as soon as Wednesday after returning from an international trip.
"Jelena has decided to come back to Melbourne to prepare herself for a return to competitive tennis," said TA chief executive Steve Wood.
"Tennis Australia will help facilitate access to coaching, courts and hitting partners.
"At this stage it is too early to speculate on when she will resume playing.
"As a former world No.4 and Wimbledon semi-finalist we believe she deserves this opportunity to realise her potential."
Dokic initially changed nationality from Australian to Yugoslavian (and then Serbian) in 2001 after father Damir claimed the Australian Open draw had been rigged against her.
Dokic later fell out with her father.
TA first welcomed the gifted baseliner back into the fold in 2005, although they have had only sporadic contact with her since early 2006.
She spurned an offer from TA three months ago to link up with the Australian Institute of Sport's Pro Tour Program which would have allowed her to work with AIS coaches in London.
But Dokic seems to have had yet another change of heart since, prompting the latest approach to Tiley.
Dokic has battled a wrist injury this year and has only played one competitive match, losing in the first round of a minor-level tournament in Italy to local journeywoman Giulia Gatto Monticone in straight sets.
She is also reported to have split with German-based coach Nikki Pilic.
Before switching her allegiance to Serbia six years ago, Dokic represented Australia in the Fed Cup and at the 2000 Sydney Olympics.
Australia's highest ranked women's player is Samantha Stosur at No.42, with Alicia Molik (69), Nicole Pratt (71) and Casey Dellacqua (80) also in the top 100.

The Kaz
Oct 16th, 2007, 10:53 AM
Jelena :awww:

Good luck 4 the future :D

Philip
Oct 16th, 2007, 10:56 AM
This article is slightly more in-depth:

http://au.sports.yahoo.com/071016/2/1fz10.html

Dokic back to kick-start career, again
Tuesday October 16, 5:22 PM
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Former Wimbledon semi-finalist Jelena Dokic has returned to Australia in yet another attempt to revive her stop-start tennis career.
Tennis Australia (TA) has again pledged to provide support for the talented and controversial Dokic, whose world ranking has dropped to an arbitrary position of No.9999 as she has zero ranking points.
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It was Dokic's only grand slam tournament since 2004.
The 24-year-old reached a career-high ranking of No.4 in 2002, two years after advancing to the Wimbledon semi-finals, before her promising career went into freefall.
Dokic, who holds dual Australian and Serbian citizenship and is now based in Zagreb, arrived in Melbourne last weekend after making contact with TA's director of player development Craig Tiley.
Tiley is expected to meet Dokic as soon as Wednesday after returning from an international trip.
"Jelena has decided to come back to Melbourne to prepare herself for a return to competitive tennis," said TA chief executive Steve Wood.
"Tennis Australia will help facilitate access to coaching, courts and hitting partners.
"At this stage it is too early to speculate on when she will resume playing.
"As a former world No.4 and Wimbledon semi-finalist we believe she deserves this opportunity to realise her potential."
Dokic initially changed nationality from Australian to Yugoslavian (and then Serbian) in 2001 after father Damir claimed the Australian Open draw had been rigged against her.
Dokic later fell out with her father.
TA first welcomed the gifted baseliner back into the fold in 2005, although they have had only sporadic contact with her since early 2006.
She spurned an offer from TA three months ago to link up with the Australian Institute of Sport's Pro Tour Program which would have allowed her to work with AIS coaches in London.
But Dokic seems to have had yet another change of heart since, prompting the latest approach to Tiley.
Dokic has battled a wrist injury this year and has only played one competitive match, losing in the first round of a minor-level tournament in Italy to local journeywoman Giulia Gatto Monticone in straight sets.
She is also reported to have split with German-based coach Nikki Pilic.
Before switching her allegiance to Serbia six years ago, Dokic represented Australia in the Fed Cup and at the 2000 Sydney Olympics.
Australia's highest ranked women's player is Samantha Stosur at No.42, with Alicia Molik (69), Nicole Pratt (71) and Casey Dellacqua (80) also in the top 100.
:eek:

Привет
Oct 16th, 2007, 10:57 AM
I hope Jelena really takes hold of this oppurtunity and gives it everything she's got.

Привет
Oct 16th, 2007, 10:58 AM
Phillip, why the :eek: smiley?

Boreas
Oct 16th, 2007, 11:00 AM
I doubt she will be back on the same level

Philip
Oct 16th, 2007, 11:20 AM
Phillip, why the :eek: smiley?
The fact that Jelena is actually doing something active, and TA still offer to help after all the set backs.

I really hope she does something good this time.

Mr.Kardashian
Oct 16th, 2007, 11:25 AM
come on jelena dont let us down this time... its great to hear some news about her!

Mr.Kardashian
Oct 16th, 2007, 11:26 AM
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Melbourne (dpa) - Jelena Dokic has once again returned to Australia in hopes of recovering a career which has gone badly off the rails.

And Tennis Australia confirmed on Tuesday that it will ride to the financial rescue with an aid package for the former teenage star whose soap-opera tennis ride become legendary.

"Jelena has decided to come back to Melbourne to prepare herself for a return to competitive tennis," said TA chief executive Steve Wood. "Tennis Australia will help facilitate access to coaching, courts and hitting partners.

"At this stage it is too early to speculate on when she will resume playing. We believe she deserves this opportunity to realise her potential."

The former number four and 2000 Wimbledon semi-finalist, has sunk to the depths of the sport, her ranking standing 9,999 with no ranking points on the WTA.

Her last match was a Challenger loss seven months ago in Rome. The 24-year-old has since been plagued with a wrist injury.

Dokic, born a Serb but trained under the Australian system since moving there as a young child with her family, has come and gone in favour.

The former prodigy attempted a return to the sport two years ago but lost in the Open first round after winning a wildcard.

Dokic has been plagued throughout her life by her eccentric father Damir, who pulled the family out of Australia in 2001 after wildly claiming the Open draw was rigged against his daughter.

Since then, the "Mad Dad" has settled in Serbia, occasionally making contact with the tabloid press. Father - her former coach - and daughter have reportedly not spoken for years.

Dokic, with two passports, has reportedly severed her coaching relationship with Munich-based Niki Pilic.

Mr.Kardashian
Oct 16th, 2007, 11:26 AM
^^^ from http://www.bangkokpost.com/sportsplus/sportsplus.php?id=122692

switz
Oct 16th, 2007, 11:34 AM
If I was Tennis Australia I wouldnt take her back not after all she has done in terms of turning her back on the country that has supported her and trained her as a player. She turned her back on Australia too many times and gave up when she had our support last time.

Tennis Australia is in no position to be too principled at the moment. Both our Davis Cup and Fed Cup teams are out of the world group and by the year end we'll have nobody ranked in the top 50 in women's tennis and only Hewitt languishing in the 20s.

As much crap as Dokic puts everyone through TA knows she's a name that gets people's attention and the media latches on unlike no other women we have. Sure it's unlikely she'll ever do what she could have but unlike with everyone else we've got (bar Molik if she gets going) at least they know there's a small chance she might produce something to turn things around and compete with the best.

let's also remember she had match points against Razzano (now a top player) in that match at the Aus Open in 06 after training hard in Melbourne around this time the year before and doing nothing at all in 05.

i'm not being a blind optimist but i understand why TA still wants her.

hdfb
Oct 16th, 2007, 11:37 AM
Please do something good Jelena.

Cp6uja
Oct 16th, 2007, 12:30 PM
Good luck and atleast TOP50 Jelena :kiss: .

I only hope that she will break all connections with Damir (father) and Bikic brothers (lovers)... and after that
her comeback is maybe not mission impossible.

Just Do It
Oct 16th, 2007, 12:33 PM
This article is slightly more in-depth:

http://au.sports.yahoo.com/071016/2/1fz10.html

Dokic back to kick-start career, again
Tuesday October 16, 5:22 PM
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Former Wimbledon semi-finalist Jelena Dokic has returned to Australia in yet another attempt to revive her stop-start tennis career.
Tennis Australia (TA) has again pledged to provide support for the talented and controversial Dokic, whose world ranking has dropped to an arbitrary position of No.9999 as she has zero ranking points.
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It was Dokic's only grand slam tournament since 2004.
The 24-year-old reached a career-high ranking of No.4 in 2002, two years after advancing to the Wimbledon semi-finals, before her promising career went into freefall.
Dokic, who holds dual Australian and Serbian citizenship and is now based in Zagreb, arrived in Melbourne last weekend after making contact with TA's director of player development Craig Tiley.
Tiley is expected to meet Dokic as soon as Wednesday after returning from an international trip.
"Jelena has decided to come back to Melbourne to prepare herself for a return to competitive tennis," said TA chief executive Steve Wood.
"Tennis Australia will help facilitate access to coaching, courts and hitting partners.
"At this stage it is too early to speculate on when she will resume playing.
"As a former world No.4 and Wimbledon semi-finalist we believe she deserves this opportunity to realise her potential."
Dokic initially changed nationality from Australian to Yugoslavian (and then Serbian) in 2001 after father Damir claimed the Australian Open draw had been rigged against her.
Dokic later fell out with her father.
TA first welcomed the gifted baseliner back into the fold in 2005, although they have had only sporadic contact with her since early 2006.
She spurned an offer from TA three months ago to link up with the Australian Institute of Sport's Pro Tour Program which would have allowed her to work with AIS coaches in London.
But Dokic seems to have had yet another change of heart since, prompting the latest approach to Tiley.
Dokic has battled a wrist injury this year and has only played one competitive match, losing in the first round of a minor-level tournament in Italy to local journeywoman Giulia Gatto Monticone in straight sets.
She is also reported to have split with German-based coach Nikki Pilic.
Before switching her allegiance to Serbia six years ago, Dokic represented Australia in the Fed Cup and at the 2000 Sydney Olympics.
Australia's highest ranked women's player is Samantha Stosur at No.42, with Alicia Molik (69), Nicole Pratt (71) and Casey Dellacqua (80) also in the top 100.

Good, this is good :)

Goai
Oct 16th, 2007, 01:14 PM
She needs to get a job.

WhatTheDeuce
Oct 17th, 2007, 03:00 AM
Um. Oh.

I need to read this.

WhatTheDeuce
Oct 17th, 2007, 03:09 AM
OMGGGGGGGGG...

Someone calm me down.

Where's GoDom?

IceHock
Oct 17th, 2007, 03:10 AM
k well this to me is probably her last lifeline, shes used up alot of them so far, im hoing she uses it wisely cause she was one of my faves

WhatTheDeuce
Oct 17th, 2007, 03:11 AM
Is there a Bikic brother with her?

*prays there isnt*

WhatTheDeuce
Oct 17th, 2007, 03:12 AM
k well this to me is probably her last lifeline
You can honestly argue that she's used them all up.

But after all, she is only 24. This is definitely her last chance.

Daniel K
Oct 17th, 2007, 03:17 AM
This is fantastic, but yeah, if there's a Bikic still involved her chances still aren't great.
There's a lot of Australian Challenger tournaments coming up, I wonder if Tennis Australia will make her play them

WhatTheDeuce
Oct 17th, 2007, 03:22 AM
Well, I think it's only Jeca and her mom there. I think the Bikic's might be out of the picture. At least I hope so. We'll see when more news leaks out and what's said after she meets with Craig Tiley.

But she's there by her own choice, she contacted TA herself to come back. And when she returned in 06 she only got there in like December, it seemed like a last minute thing. Now she's there mid-October to train for the Aussie summer. That's a good sign.

Can she be serious and ready to put forth a real effort this time? :bigcry:

I'm flipping outtttttt.

Daniel K
Oct 17th, 2007, 03:41 AM
Well, I think it's only Jeca and her mom there. I think the Bikic's might be out of the picture. At least I hope so. We'll see when more news leaks out and what's said after she meets with Craig Tiley.

But she's there by her own choice, she contacted TA herself to come back. And when she returned in 06 she only got there in like December, it seemed like a last minute thing. Now she's there mid-October to train for the Aussie summer. That's a good sign.

Can she be serious and ready to put forth a real effort this time? :bigcry:

I'm flipping outtttttt.

Hmm makes sense but you make it sound so promising, and I don't want to get my hopes up :sad::p
This is so exciting though, I can't wait for the Australian Summer. Watching her attempt to comeback in 2005 was so much fun, even if it ended badly.

karimcartoon
Oct 17th, 2007, 03:52 AM
i miss her. she's had some issues give her a break. Come on Jelena!

tilliii
Oct 17th, 2007, 03:58 AM
is it possible for her to play the aussie open? will they let her?

i hope this isn't (again) only false hope with jelena :(

karimcartoon
Oct 17th, 2007, 04:19 AM
is it possible for her to play the aussie open? will they let her?

i hope this isn't (again) only false hope with jelena :(

there isnt that great of aussie females players. if she stays she's definitely in the wild card. hopefully she can
make a splash maybe get up a few rounds.

switz
Oct 17th, 2007, 04:37 AM
there isnt that great of aussie females players. if she stays she's definitely in the wild card. hopefully she can
make a splash maybe get up a few rounds.

i think they will want Dokic in the tournament but they will do everything they can to avoid making giving her WC controversial. she have to play the wildcard tournament (as anyone who wants to be considering does) and if she loses that they'll want to see a concerted effort from her i'm sure.

whatever the result the fact that she's in Melbourne in October suggests she is at least wanting to get back into the game.

karimcartoon
Oct 17th, 2007, 04:44 AM
i think they will want Dokic in the tournament but they will do everything they can to avoid making giving her WC controversial. she have to play the wildcard tournament (as anyone who wants to be considering does) and if she loses that they'll want to see a concerted effort from her i'm sure.

whatever the result the fact that she's in Melbourne in October suggests she is at least wanting to get back into the game.

yeah i agree. i miss so many late 1990s to early 2000s players that just disappeared. her family issues :( same with Lucic.

fufuqifuqishahah
Oct 17th, 2007, 04:46 AM
If I was Tennis Australia I wouldnt take her back not after all she has done in terms of turning her back on the country that has supported her and trained her as a player. She turned her back on Australia too many times and gave up when she had our support last time.

maybe it isnt her who turned her back? Maybe her father forced her to turn her back, and now she feels ashamed/embarassed to go back?

AUSBOY
Oct 17th, 2007, 05:24 AM
Here is the link

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/

If you scroll down there is a further link on the right hand side.

mckyle.
Oct 17th, 2007, 05:26 AM
a few? :eek:

mckyle.
Oct 17th, 2007, 05:27 AM
I think Dokic needs to first get in a right state before she hits any tennis balls :o

mckyle.
Oct 17th, 2007, 05:27 AM
I like her hair though

NyCPsU
Oct 17th, 2007, 05:28 AM
:eek: :o

but at least this is promising somewhat...

tennisfan5
Oct 17th, 2007, 05:28 AM
she definitely has put on some weight. looks older than 24 as well.

DimaDinosaur
Oct 17th, 2007, 05:29 AM
Physically beauty doesn't last very long. Thank goodness Daniela has inner beauty as well :D

Leo_DFP
Oct 17th, 2007, 05:31 AM
I'd love to see her give in one more push. I hope she spends the off-season training and losing weight, and comes back fresh for Melbourne. :D I'm really happy she settled all the silliness she used to have going on with Tennis Australia.

mankind
Oct 17th, 2007, 05:31 AM
God she looks awful, but she can still hit well. I hope she does come back.

karimcartoon
Oct 17th, 2007, 05:33 AM
its a start a couple of months can make a BIG deference.

Alizé Molik
Oct 17th, 2007, 05:35 AM
ROFL! "she may once have been number 1 in the world"

the herald sun is such a joke of a newspaper.

and who cares what she looks like now, she'll destroy Trudy Musgrave again :o and get that WC for the AO.

karimcartoon
Oct 17th, 2007, 05:39 AM
ROFL! "she may once have been number 1 in the world"

the herald sun is such a joke of a newspaper.

and who cares what she looks like now, she'll destroy Trudy Musgrave again :o and get that WC for the AO.

she was a great player, maybe not no.1. she needs to get in shape. i mean she was a great hustler back in her days. if she doesnt get in shape she cant chase down balls and she cant win on the tour.

tilliii
Oct 17th, 2007, 05:42 AM
is it taking long to load for anyone else?

Jeff
Oct 17th, 2007, 05:46 AM
Why does she always try to make her comebacks in Australia? I guess it's the only place that will give her "Retries." But, well...anyway, I'm not sure how "serious" she truly is at this point. It's a step that she is back in Melbourne, but I'm sure it wasn't her choice to have it publicized...although it is to be expected. If she gets in better shape and makes it to the first round of Australia...actually if she makes it to the second round, then I'll be more hopeful.

OZTENNIS
Oct 17th, 2007, 06:28 AM
Jelena :)

tennisfan5
Oct 17th, 2007, 06:30 AM
i hope this is finally a comeback and not just one tournament and then gone for the rest of the year

Wolverines08
Oct 17th, 2007, 06:33 AM
Wow...she still hits a mean ball but :eek: :eek: :eek: ...well, i still love her and wish her the best.

Daniel K
Oct 17th, 2007, 06:36 AM
Cool a video. Not in good shape, but who cares. She has what... 3 months until the Australian Open. If she's serious about this comeback, which it seems she is, she'll be back in shape in no time.

Lol at used to be number 1 in the world.

fOxYLiCiOuS
Oct 17th, 2007, 06:40 AM
:eek: :eek: :eek:




welcome back again. :help:

Davenselesport
Oct 17th, 2007, 06:44 AM
She's just not a nice person... rude in my opinion to the fans and media. She should go back to her roots and realize how she got to the top.
Good luck Jelena...

-sugi-
Oct 17th, 2007, 06:51 AM
Good luck Jelena. :hug:
She looks a bit rough, but doesn't seem to be beyond hope with her tennis at the moment. :hug:

WhatTheDeuce
Oct 17th, 2007, 07:00 AM
She's just not a nice person... rude in my opinion to the fans and media.
That's a little harsh. I've heard about fans recounting having great experiences with her, and when I saw her in Montreal she was very friendly interacting with everybody. It probably depends on the day and what's going on in her life. She hasn't had an easy time of it by any means, it's hard to blame her for feeling grumpy sometimes.

Anyway, about the video... she's HUGE. :eek: Wow, I was expecting her to be out of shape, but not THAT bad. That said, let's keep in mind that she has a few months from now until the Aussie summer season, so if she's serious this time, she has more than enough time to train her ass off, work hard to get fit and give it her best. That'll really be an indication of whether she's serious about this, long term.

Looking on the bright side, she did go back to Australia by her own choice, she seems to be there without any Bikic's (and with her mom in the country), and she's willing to work with TA again, obviously, which is a huge step in the right direction. She needs stability, and they'll give her some.

Oh, and she seems to be hitting the ball really clean from the little they show. Still got those buttery groundstrokes. :hearts:

Myggen
Oct 17th, 2007, 07:01 AM
Seems like she is hitting the ball pretty well. Just needs to lose a few pounds and she should at least be able to compete with the top, let's say, 50-60.

Mr.Kardashian
Oct 17th, 2007, 07:03 AM
stop being so negative! she is taking a courageous step in the right direction for once and she doesnt look that bad at all anyway. I love you jelena.... good luck

So Disrespectful
Oct 17th, 2007, 07:07 AM
She actually doesn't look like she's put on that much weight. 15lbs? She can get back into good shape if she works hard. I doubt she'll work with a personal trainer though. I wish her good luck of course, but there's no guarantee she'll even win the wildcard.

WhatTheDeuce
Oct 17th, 2007, 07:09 AM
She looks huge to me. :shrug: Granted it's not THAT MUCH weight and won't be too difficult to work off if she's motivated, but its a far cry even from what she looked like at AO 06.

I keep rewatching the video though. Those groundstrokes. :hearts:

So Disrespectful
Oct 17th, 2007, 07:27 AM
She looks huge to me. :shrug:

Maybe I'm just being delusional/wishful :lol:

WhatTheDeuce
Oct 17th, 2007, 07:33 AM
BTW, is she using a Wilson racket?

karimcartoon
Oct 17th, 2007, 07:42 AM
She actually doesn't look like she's put on that much weight. 15lbs? She can get back into good shape if she works hard. I doubt she'll work with a personal trainer though. I wish her good luck of course, but there's no guarantee she'll even win the wildcard.

she'll probably will ... i mean whats her competition?

dybbuk
Oct 17th, 2007, 07:42 AM
She seems to still have her ballstriking ability. If she is serious about it she shouldn't have any trouble dropping the fat she has gained.

Good luck Jelena. :hug: I loved the little smile in the video too. :awww:

Erika_Angel
Oct 17th, 2007, 07:44 AM
Jelena :hearts: I'm glad she's back on court. The fact she has gone to Australia to pursue her tennis career means that she is serious about it. You don't just take a trip halfway around the world for nothing. Granted she was serious last time, but that loss at the AO hit her BIG TIME. Hopefully Tennis Australia and herself, can prepare her this time for the chance of having a close loss, and that she has to keep pushing even if that happens. Last time she didn't handle it well at all.

About her weight ... sure she's put on a bit, but at her best she wasn't very skinny anyway. She's always been one of the bigger girls on the tour which is what gives her that extra oomph behind her shots. When she lost all that weight in early 03 or whenever it was, was when she started playing terrible (not saying that was the reason, but it didn't seem to help her). I'm sure if she puts in the effort training she can lose the weight she needs to pretty quickly. There are girls on the tour who are at least as big as she is, though they too always get called fat.

homogenius
Oct 17th, 2007, 07:48 AM
She lost me after her comeback n°37.She is only 24 and always had the game so a comeback is possible, but I find it difficult to keep being interested by what she's doing after all these years of attempts, committments/retirements etc...Good luck too her tough.

WhatTheDeuce
Oct 17th, 2007, 07:48 AM
Jelena :hearts: I'm glad she's back on court. The fact she has gone to Australia to pursue her tennis career means that she is serious about it. You don't just take a trip halfway around the world for nothing. Granted she was serious last time, but that loss at the AO hit her BIG TIME. Hopefully Tennis Australia and herself, can prepare her this time for the chance of having a close loss, and that she has to keep pushing even if that happens. Last time she didn't handle it well at all.
I'm sorry, but the fact that she gave up completely following that one loss was an indication that she wasn't completely serious. I was very disappointed in her after that. Tough losses will be part of the long road back, she needs to understand that and deal with it without going into hiding.

I hope she's (more) serious about it this time around.

GoDominique
Oct 17th, 2007, 07:48 AM
I heard she's no longer with Bikic. Her new boyfriend goes by the name of Hugh Jass.

karimcartoon
Oct 17th, 2007, 07:49 AM
http://www.raisport.rai.it/pub/static/1200/20010220TennisDokic.jpg

the player we miss.

WhatTheDeuce
Oct 17th, 2007, 07:51 AM
I heard she's no longer with Bikic. Her new boyfriend goes by the name of Hugh Jass.
Where did you hear that? And is this Hugh Jass associated with tennis?

Edit: Oh. Funny. :p

karimcartoon
Oct 17th, 2007, 07:56 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jelena_Dokic
it says here she has dropped out of tournaments because of a wrist injury ouch ... hopes that heals.

Erika_Angel
Oct 17th, 2007, 07:57 AM
I'm sorry, but the fact that she gave up completely following that one loss was an indication that she wasn't completely serious. I was very disappointed in her after that. Tough losses will be part of the long road back, she needs to understand that and deal with it without going into hiding.

I hope she's (more) serious about it this time around.

She was apparently waking up early and in the gym every morning at 6am for hours, training like a dog to prepare for the Aus Open last time she tried to comeback. The fact she 'gave up' has nothing to do with whether she was serious or not. The poor girl was distraught after that loss, and mentally she wasn't prepared for it, and wasn't able to step on court again for months. Being serious about something does not make you immune to emotional instability, especially when you are unprepared for it like Dokic was. She may have wanted to return to the court, but was mentally unable to. The girl obviously has issues, she wants to come back but she is afraid, hence the committing to events and withdrawing at the last minute. You don't commit to events you don't have intentions of playing.

Where did you hear that? And is this Hugh Jass associated with tennis?

I hope your not serious lol.

GoDominique
Oct 17th, 2007, 07:59 AM
Where did you hear that? And is this Hugh Jass associated with tennis?
Yes he is. He is the former coach of Mariaan de Swardt.

karimcartoon
Oct 17th, 2007, 08:00 AM
2006

Representing Australia for the first time in 5 years, Dokić received a wild card into the ASB Classic in Auckland in January. She lost her first round match to Julia Schruff, 5-7 7-6(3) 6-1, hitting 51 unforced errors and 28 double faults. Dokić then earned a wildcard berth at the 2006 Australian Open. She held a match point on her opponent Virginie Razzano's serve, and hit what she thought was a forehand winner, only to have the umpire overrule the ball out. She went on to lose the match, 3-6 7-6(6) 6-1, hitting over 70 unforced errors.

that would be TOUGH if it was me ... i mean she had match point and the umpire thing. Yikes.

WhatTheDeuce
Oct 17th, 2007, 08:03 AM
She was apparently waking up early and in the gym every morning at 6am for hours, training like a dog to prepare for the Aus Open last time she tried to comeback. The fact she 'gave up' has nothing to do with whether she was serious or not. The poor girl was distraught after that loss, and mentally she wasn't prepared for it, and wasn't able to step on court again for months. Being serious about something does not make you immune to emotional instability, especially when you are unprepared for it like Dokic was. She may have wanted to return to the court, but was mentally unable to. The girl obviously has issues, she wants to come back but she is afraid, hence the committing to events and withdrawing at the last minute. You don't commit to events you don't have intentions of playing.
I know about her working hard to prepare for AO 06. But I dunno... I guess she just got my hopes up, and the fact that she disappeared after that loss was just SO disappointing. I mean she proved that she could play with good players, being within points of beating a couple, and then to just give up... I guess she wasn't mentally prepared, as you said. But will she ever be? She's gotta know now that tough losses will be a part of this process.

I hope your not serious lol.
I was slow. :o It's 4AM here. :ras:

karimcartoon
Oct 17th, 2007, 08:26 AM
well we can just wait and see. How far do you guys think she'll go if she gets the wildcard for the Australian Open?

Keadz
Oct 17th, 2007, 08:29 AM
http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/News.aspx?id=4&pageId=11478&HandlerId=2&archive=false&newsid=3490

Great Interview!

Firstly, let me say it is great to be back in Melbourne. Of course I used to live in Sydney, so there are still things new to me here. I haven't been here for two years. I am happily reminded it is a beautiful city and I love it here and am really enjoying being back.

Training here is great and I have all the facilities I need and it is good to see some familiar faces.

So why did I stop playing and why have I come back now? I just haven't played because I didn't feel within myself that I was ready to play. That's why I took pretty much the whole year off.

You always have ups and downs in a career and, of course, I have had a bit of a down period. I felt like I just wasn't ready to play, until now. I think if you are not ready it is counterproductive to try and comeback. It is better to leave it and get yourself together. That is what I have done.

It has taken some time, but right now I feel like I am in a place mentally and physically that I am ready and able to compete. Now I feel in mind and body I am back and ready to give 100 per cent to train hard and try and play again.

I have to say I have really missed tennis. I miss the playing, I miss the competing.

So I think that this is the best way to try and get back into my tennis … to make the commitment to come here to Melbourne very early and train hard and see what opportunities I get.

I need to put in a good two to three months of hard training and this is the best place to do it.

I am under no illusions. This is going to be very difficult. I am trying to make a full comeback and only a few people like Jennifer (Capriati), Mary (Pierce) and Andre (Agassi) have done it. It is not an easy position to be in, you have to earn respect all over again.

It is 100 times harder than when you first come along, because everything is new and there's no pressure and you are very young.

The biggest thing I have to do is work very hard for the next three months. I look forward to it, but it won't be easy. When I made the top five, one of the keys to my success was simply hard work and lots of it.

I have to totally live tennis now from six o'clock in the morning until 10 o'clock at night then sleep, wake up and start all over again.

I am doing a lot of fitness stuff off the court and am starting slowly on the court. I am trying to get my fitness sorted first and then get some rhythm on the court and I will up the workload as I go along.

I don't want to do too much too quickly and get injured. I know my body.

I am aiming to be 100 per cent fit by the play-off time (wildcard play-off in December) … basically as fit as I can be without having played matches.

That is the first stage then, of course, I will need lots of matches to get the mental part of my game right and to get match fit.

I am lucky I have a good hitting partner and can lift or lower the intensity of my training. It really helps to have good people to work with. Historically my fitness rises pretty quickly and even after two weeks I expect to be able to do a lot more than I could at the beginning.

Along the way I will set some goals, get a few matches in and maybe even play some qualifying depending upon what opportunities I can get.

I have to keep reminding myself that I am starting from scratch.

But right now I wouldn't want to be anywhere else. I am in a city I love and training hard for a comeback to a game I love. I have truly missed it and I am determined to get back on court.

Very promising, but still..I dont want to get my hopes up! I wish her the best of luck!..and if she goes to the Wild card play offs I will obviously go down to watch her.

WhatTheDeuce
Oct 17th, 2007, 08:32 AM
OMG.

That interview just gave me an orgasm.

And that pic of her smiling. :inlove:

Keadz
Oct 17th, 2007, 08:40 AM
OMG.

That interview just gave me an orgasm.

And that pic of her smiling.

haha, i know...I just want to see her play a competitive match again...I will get very excited then!

Petersmiler
Oct 17th, 2007, 08:41 AM
Please Jelena.

Just try your best. It is surely good enough to get you back to the top 50 again! And then when you get there.......

Mr.Kardashian
Oct 17th, 2007, 08:49 AM
OMG.

That interview just gave me an orgasm.

And that pic of her smiling. :inlove:


ME TOO..... a few teary eyes and an orgasm.....

Dont let me down this time Jelena... but im so proud of her already!

OZTENNIS
Oct 17th, 2007, 09:07 AM
Jelena :)

ATM she is making all the right decisions...she is not rushing into a comeback, she is training properly and seriously and she has her sights set on the wildcard playoff :yeah:

Although it is currently unlikely she would win this, she should get some good match play against Australia's rising stars...some potential opposition include Sophie Ferguson, Monique Adamczak, Christina Wheeler, Jessica Moore and Isabella Holland...it would be VERY interesting to see how she goes against these players...

I just hope she stays in Australia and works her butt off

LefandePatty
Oct 17th, 2007, 09:10 AM
I can't see the video. :sad:

Jogi
Oct 17th, 2007, 09:10 AM
where's the link to the video?

GL on your comeback Jelena, hope you're really serious this time

Just Do It
Oct 17th, 2007, 09:20 AM
omg that video and interview :yeah::yeah::yeah:

WhatTheDeuce
Oct 17th, 2007, 09:21 AM
where's the link to the video?
Video is on this page. :)

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/tennis

ce
Oct 17th, 2007, 09:23 AM
Jelena you are the reason i started watching tennis,please come back :bigcry:

zakketiello
Oct 17th, 2007, 09:35 AM
I can't see the video. :sad:


http://publish.vx.roo.com/heraldsun/videoplayer/?Channel=Herald+Sun+Sport&ClipId=1396_dokic&bitrate=300&Format=wmp

Привет
Oct 17th, 2007, 09:37 AM
Jelena! :yeah: So great to be able to read an interview. Train hard Jelena. :inlove:

LefandePatty
Oct 17th, 2007, 09:55 AM
http://publish.vx.roo.com/heraldsun/videoplayer/?Channel=Herald+Sun+Sport&ClipId=1396_dokic&bitrate=300&Format=wmp

Yeah thanks I had the link but the video doesn't load for me. :awww:

Alizé Molik
Oct 17th, 2007, 10:05 AM
Jelena!! I've missed this bandwagon.

©@®eLess
Oct 17th, 2007, 12:28 PM
The Lord of the Escapes...part 5627672615428809826624426516252415625

Philip
Oct 17th, 2007, 12:56 PM
This is the best news ive heard all year now!! :D

I really dont want to get too excited, but i cant help it!! :D:D

The AO Razzano match was a heartbreaker :sad: Coulda done with the Hawkeye there... :p

:bounce:!!!!

Highlandman
Oct 17th, 2007, 01:15 PM
Jelena :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: Soooooooooooooooooooo wonderful to see her back on a court :bounce:

Hopefully she really really comes back now :awww:

Ben.
Oct 17th, 2007, 01:25 PM
nice interview from her...just try your best jelena :D

matty
Oct 17th, 2007, 02:51 PM
That's a little harsh. I've heard about fans recounting having great experiences with her, and when I saw her in Montreal she was very friendly interacting with everybody. It probably depends on the day and what's going on in her life. She hasn't had an easy time of it by any means, it's hard to blame her for feeling grumpy sometimes.

Anyway, about the video... she's HUGE. :eek: Wow, I was expecting her to be out of shape, but not THAT bad. That said, let's keep in mind that she has a few months from now until the Aussie summer season, so if she's serious this time, she has more than enough time to train her ass off, work hard to get fit and give it her best. That'll really be an indication of whether she's serious about this, long term.

Looking on the bright side, she did go back to Australia by her own choice, she seems to be there without any Bikic's (and with her mom in the country), and she's willing to work with TA again, obviously, which is a huge step in the right direction. She needs stability, and they'll give her some.

Oh, and she seems to be hitting the ball really clean from the little they show. Still got those buttery groundstrokes. :hearts:

A lot of women's bodies change as they age. Look at Sharapova, her body (especially shoulders) has filled out a lot since winning Wimbledon. She was a "bean pole" back then. She's still slender, but has filled out a lot. Its hormones.

matty
Oct 17th, 2007, 02:57 PM
:bounce: C'mon Jelena, you have a lot of fans behind you. Never give up! :bounce:

Lulu.
Oct 17th, 2007, 03:02 PM
:hearts: Try your best Jelena.

Freakan
Oct 17th, 2007, 03:30 PM
REally happy to hear that but seems that she doesn't even want to play any challengers, just WTA tournaments, counting on WC's :(

patch.
Oct 17th, 2007, 03:38 PM
I think 2008 is now or never for Dokic...I really hope she takes the chance

Good Luck Jelena :bounce:

IceHock
Oct 17th, 2007, 03:51 PM
She looks wicked out of shape though, but she said she's working on her fitness first so she must know what she needs to do, and she still has that grunt!!!

LindsayRulz
Oct 17th, 2007, 04:31 PM
It's nice to see that she wants to comeback. Good luck in Australia Jelena :)

Wintermute
Oct 17th, 2007, 05:13 PM
Tennis Australia has been really kind to Jelena. I hope she fully embraces the opportunity this time.

TA director of player development Craig Tiley warned Dokic she would have to comply with the organisation's strict performance criteria.

"It's been made clear to Jelena that TA is not a gravy train," Tiley said.

Dokic returned to Australia on Friday for the first time in 22 months. Tiley said she would remain in Melbourne indefinitely.

"She's going to stay here until she is ready to play her first tournament," he said.And I guess she's still with Tin Bikic.

Dokic, shadowed by boyfriend Tin Bikic and manager John Giannarelli as she practised with hitting partner Duje Kuvacic, did not mention her estranged father Damir Dokic.

WhatTheDeuce
Oct 17th, 2007, 06:24 PM
Jelena Dokic has returned to Australia

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,5707049,00.jpg

Leo Schlink
October 16, 2007 12:00am

OUT of shape and riddled with doubt, Jelena Dokic yesterday vowed to resurrect a shattered career by emulating Andre Agassi and Jennifer Capriati.

Ranked 9999th in the world, Dokic refuses to concede her career is over, declaring she is ready to become obsessive about tennis again.

"I am under no illusions," Dokic, 24, said yesterday after practising at Melbourne Park.

"This (comeback) is going to be very difficult.

"I am trying to make a full comeback, and only a few people like Jennifer (Capriati), Mary (Pierce) and Andre (Agassi) have done it.

"It is not an easy position to be in. You have to earn respect all over again.

"It is 100 times harder than when you first come along, because (then) everything is new and there's no pressure and you are very young.

"The biggest thing I have to do is work very hard for the next three months. I look forward to it, but it won't be easy.

"When I made the top five, one of the keys to my success was simply hard work and lots of it. I have to totally live tennis now from six o'clock in the morning until 10 o'clock at night, then sleep, wake up and start all over again."

Dokic, shadowed by boyfriend Tin Bikic and manager John Giannarelli as she practised with hitting partner Duje Kuvacic, did not mention her estranged father Damir Dokic.

Dokic Sr is regarded as the person most responsible for wrecking his daughter's career and is rumoured to have pocketed a large share of her $5 million fortune.

"So why did I stop playing and why have I come back now?" Dokic said.

"I just haven't played because I didn't feel within myself that I was ready to play. That's why I took pretty much the whole year off. You always have ups and downs in a career and I have had a bit of a down period.

"I felt like I just wasn't ready to play, until now. I think if you are not ready, it is counter-productive to try and come back. It is better to leave it and get yourself together. That is what I have done. It has taken some time, but right now I feel like I am in a place mentally and physically that I am ready and able to compete."

Dokic has pinpointed December's Australian Open training camp playoff as her launching pad.

"I am aiming to be 100 per cent fit by the playoff time, basically as fit as I can be without having played matches," she said. "I have to keep reminding myself that I am starting from scratch."

TA director of player development Craig Tiley warned Dokic she would have to comply with the organisation's strict performance criteria.

"It's been made clear to Jelena that TA is not a gravy train," Tiley said.

Dokic returned to Australia on Friday for the first time in 22 months. Tiley said she would remain in Melbourne indefinitely.

"She's going to stay here until she is ready to play her first tournament," he said.

DokicForever
Oct 17th, 2007, 06:26 PM
Great news Jelena!
I still believe in you!!
Good luck!!! :)

WhatTheDeuce
Oct 17th, 2007, 06:28 PM
Yeah, so apparently Bikic is still with her. :o But I mean, as long as it doesn't stop her from being serious about tennis and being in her adopted homeland WORKING WITH TENNIS AUSTRALIA (!!!!), then I suppose I don't really care. He's sure as hell not gonna be the one coaching her, thank God.

LindsayRulz
Oct 17th, 2007, 06:43 PM
"When I made the top five, one of the keys to my success was simply hard work and lots of it. I have to totally live tennis now from six o'clock in the morning until 10 o'clock at night, then sleep, wake up and start all over again."


Wow she seems really determined to comeback and ready to work very hard for it :hearts:

Keadz
Oct 17th, 2007, 11:48 PM
Is this the better Bikic?

WhatTheDeuce
Oct 18th, 2007, 02:04 AM
Is this the better Bikic?
Yes. Tino is her boyfriend, doesn't really have anything to do with her tennis as far as I know.

Borna is the problem. :o

UDACHi
Oct 18th, 2007, 02:22 AM
this tubby little hasbeen sure does a great job of manipulating tennis australia into wildcards when she feels like making a few thousand bucks every now and then. :hearts:

WhatTheDeuce
Oct 18th, 2007, 02:36 AM
this tubby little hasbeen sure does a great job of manipulating tennis australia into wildcards when she feels like making a few thousand bucks every now and then. :hearts:
She hasn't manipulated Tennis Australia into giving her any wildcards actually. In 06 she got a wilcard into New Zealand and then won her right to play in the AO by winning the wildcard playoff.

Jelena said she didn't feel ready mentally to try to comeback last time. Now she feels like she is. So even if she never gets back to respectability as far as rankings go, just give her a chance to try and stop making her out to be some villain.

switz
Oct 18th, 2007, 02:52 AM
that interview was very encouraging. of course she has to follow through with it but it's great to see that she's at least saying all the right things. even if i suspect she had more than a little help from Tennis Australia's media rep in formulating her answers ;)

GoDominique
Oct 18th, 2007, 03:37 AM
What Udachi said is mean but can you be sure that there is no truth in it at all?

The facts are that Dokic hasn't played tournaments for 7 months, and she hasn't been seen for quite a while. As far as we know she hasn't had any considerable income in recent times, neither prize money nor endorsements. She *might* be broke for all we know.

Now she's back in Australia. Why, we can't be sure. She says because of the tennis. There's a clip of her and she's terribly terribly out of shape. She's FAT, and you got to wonder what she's been doing recently.
She *might* just be there because she's really desperate.

The weight problem is not the main issue. Mary Pierce was a fat slob back in 2003 and got back into shape fairly quickly so it can be done.
Still, there are a lot of question marks. Let's not forget that we've had similar interviews from Lucic and look what happened, or rather didn't happen. Not to mention Dokic's own history of broken promises.

Again, I am not saying that Dokic is doing this as a scam for a few bucks.
But there are a lot of question marks and I urge *certain* posters to keep their expectations fairly modest. :p

OZTENNIS
Oct 18th, 2007, 03:44 AM
What Udachi said is mean but can you be sure that there is no truth in it at all?

The facts are that Dokic hasn't played tournaments for 7 months, and she hasn't been seen for quite a while. As far as we know she hasn't had any considerable income in recent times, neither prize money nor endorsements. She *might* be broke for all we know.

If she was broke, how did she get here?

WhatTheDeuce
Oct 18th, 2007, 04:15 AM
What Udachi said is mean but can you be sure that there is no truth in it at all?

The facts are that Dokic hasn't played tournaments for 7 months, and she hasn't been seen for quite a while. As far as we know she hasn't had any considerable income in recent times, neither prize money nor endorsements. She *might* be broke for all we know.

Now she's back in Australia. Why, we can't be sure. She says because of the tennis. There's a clip of her and she's terribly terribly out of shape. She's FAT, and you got to wonder what she's been doing recently.
She *might* just be there because she's really desperate.

The weight problem is not the main issue. Mary Pierce was a fat slob back in 2003 and got back into shape fairly quickly so it can be done.
Still, there are a lot of question marks. Let's not forget that we've had similar interviews from Lucic and look what happened, or rather didn't happen. Not to mention Dokic's own history of broken promises.

Again, I am not saying that Dokic is doing this as a scam for a few bucks.
But there are a lot of question marks and I urge *certain* posters to keep their expectations fairly modest. :p
LOL. I can always count on you to bring me down to earth. Honestly, my expectations aren't that high as far as achievements go. I do, however, expect her to start playing a real schedule and not to just give up after a few tough losses. That may be wishful thinking, but that interview really instilled some hope in me. :o And I'm also expecting her to shed the fat pretty quickly and be in at least equally good shape as she was for AO 06.

As far as what her true intentions are, you're right... nobody REALLY knows. But I'll give her the benefit of the doubt when she says she's ready THIS TIME to really invest herself into trying to become respectable again. Whether her reasoning behind that is she needs some money, or she misses tennis, or she's in a better state of mind, or a combination of all those factors... as long as she's out there giving it a real try, I'm happy. And if it doesn't work out, then so be it.

As far as her using TA, I used to think it was the case after the 06 disaster cause I was really disappointed in her, but the fact of the matter is she IS Australian, and she hasn't really taken advantage of them for wildcards or anything else. The fact that she gave up after the disappointing 06 Australian summer could be perceived as a slap in the face, but I really don't believe Jelena had any bad intentions, I just think she wasn't in a good state of mind. Hopefully things will be different now.

switz
Oct 18th, 2007, 04:15 AM
What Udachi said is mean but can you be sure that there is no truth in it at all?

The facts are that Dokic hasn't played tournaments for 7 months, and she hasn't been seen for quite a while. As far as we know she hasn't had any considerable income in recent times, neither prize money nor endorsements. She *might* be broke for all we know.

Now she's back in Australia. Why, we can't be sure. She says because of the tennis. There's a clip of her and she's terribly terribly out of shape. She's FAT, and you got to wonder what she's been doing recently.
She *might* just be there because she's really desperate.

The weight problem is not the main issue. Mary Pierce was a fat slob back in 2003 and got back into shape fairly quickly so it can be done.
Still, there are a lot of question marks. Let's not forget that we've had similar interviews from Lucic and look what happened, or rather didn't happen. Not to mention Dokic's own history of broken promises.

Again, I am not saying that Dokic is doing this as a scam for a few bucks.
But there are a lot of question marks and I urge *certain* posters to keep their expectations fairly modest. :p

there were always going to be a lot of questions if Dokic decided to comeback and anyone who believes this will be smooth sailing is bound to be disappointed. I think Tennis Australia is playing the Dokic card to their advantage just as much as Jelena has used them though. You just have to look at the fact that this story has been given significant press in every major Australian newspaper this week and the way there were no interviews with Dokic - just an "exclusive blog" on the TA website to know that they've had a strategy in place for some time for Dokic coming back to them.

TA is cashed up big time due to huge popularity of Australian Open with tickets, sponsors and tv audiences in Australia. Problem is that will start to decline once people realise the dire state of our player depth both in the men's and women's game. They can afford to throw money at Dokic for as long as she is a well known name and has some chance of being the player she once was (or something like it).

switz
Oct 18th, 2007, 04:17 AM
If she was broke, how did she get here?

she didn't just show up at Melbourne Park unannounced. TA payed for her to come back.

She's probably not broke though. But she would be struggling financially and i have no doubt that is a major incentive because TA is offering security if she does the work.

~Eclipsed~
Oct 18th, 2007, 06:36 AM
:eek: that's the first time I watched the video. She makes Stevenson look skinny.:o

WhatTheDeuce
Oct 18th, 2007, 06:48 AM
:eek: that's the first time I watched the video. She makes Stevenson look skinny.:o
Actually no, she doesn't. :o

It's so hilarious when you of all people knock any player who's trying to come back. :lol:

IMPOSSIBLE
Oct 18th, 2007, 06:50 AM
BTW, is she using a Wilson racket?

looks like it ;)

cindy
Oct 18th, 2007, 09:49 AM
good luck jeca on your return! hope she can realy do it! she looks realy determined and this can be a key so don't give up, believe in you and stop wasting all your talent! she certainly have the mental to come back, she has to work on her physic...I can't wait to see her back on the court!

frontier
Oct 18th, 2007, 10:52 AM
I hope her erratic behaviour has nothing to do with substance abuse.

Tenis Srbija
Oct 18th, 2007, 10:55 AM
Good for her... I guess...

King Aaron
Oct 18th, 2007, 05:28 PM
:aparty: :woohoo:

~Eclipsed~
Oct 18th, 2007, 05:35 PM
Actually no, she doesn't. :o

It's so hilarious when you of all people knock any player who's trying to come back. :lol:

I'm not knocking her comeback(in that post anyway;) )

I was just pointing out that she's really out of shape.:shrug:

Princeza
Oct 18th, 2007, 06:25 PM
Jelena leave all this shit and come back please :sad:

WhatTheDeuce
Oct 18th, 2007, 07:45 PM
I was just pointing out that she's really out of shape.:shrug:
The comparison to Alex was not only untrue, but unnecessary as well. :ras:
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I hate how Australia is so far away from now. :( We're probably not gonna hear much about Jelena's training and progress until wildcard playoff time. Hopefully the Aussie media gives us some updates along the way.

OZTENNIS
Oct 18th, 2007, 09:02 PM
The comparison to Alex was not only untrue, but unnecessary as well. :ras:
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I hate how Australia is so far away from now. :( We're probably not gonna hear much about Jelena's training and progress until wildcard playoff time. Hopefully the Aussie media gives us some updates along the way.

Put it this way...

No news from now until the wildcard playoff is good news. It will have meant she hasn't left the country or stopped training etc

Europe rocks
Oct 18th, 2007, 09:12 PM
Best of luck Jelena :hug: Hope this comeback is more successful than previous ones

mirzalover
Oct 18th, 2007, 09:15 PM
She look ugly in the face in that picture on page 8. I want the hot, kicking ass, boobs jumping, shoo sounding, 30 unforced erros and 30 winners, playing almost every week and making it the quarters atleast, Jelena Dokic back.

The Daviator
Oct 18th, 2007, 09:40 PM
She's really out of shape and looks much older than 24, not surprising all the stress she's had in her life :hug: Anyway, she looks like she's hitting the ball well...

This board would probably crash if she even won a set on the main tour :o

davidmario
Oct 18th, 2007, 09:52 PM
OMG... She's overweight:sad:

WhatTheDeuce
Oct 18th, 2007, 10:06 PM
She look ugly in the face in that picture on page 8. I want the hot, kicking ass, boobs jumping, shoo sounding, 30 unforced erros and 30 winners, playing almost every week and making it the quarters atleast, Jelena Dokic back.
She's still got the SHOO! ;) But yeah, she's definitely not as pretty as she used to be, but I think she's still a good looking girl. Once she sheds the weight and gets a tan going she'll look much better. She looked great at AO 06, I thought.

This board would probably crash if she even won a set on the main tour :o
LMFAO. She should have won both of the main tour matches she played in 06. :ras:

Come on Jelena! :hearts: I'm way too excited about this. :o

Philip
Oct 18th, 2007, 10:40 PM
blahh... still have 2 and a bit months to wait though!! :p

MatchpointPRT
Oct 18th, 2007, 10:56 PM
She doesn´t look ugly, i don´t know how Jelena could look ugly. She´s a bit out of shape, but its nothing serious. She looked ok and its really nice to see Jelena.

racquetandballs
Oct 19th, 2007, 10:46 AM
So Tennis Australia will throw 10's of thousands at this no hoper, when it should be going to our young girls. It's no wonder we have no depth in mens or womens anymore when they are throwing good money after bad :(

rada
Oct 19th, 2007, 11:05 AM
So Tennis Australia will throw 10's of thousands at this no hoper, when it should be going to our young girls. It's no wonder we have no depth in mens or womens anymore when they are throwing good money after bad :(

This no hoper has done lots for Australia as well don't forget the good things she has done like the great fed cup wins and winning the hopman cup. Welcome back home jelena wish you all the very best. :)

racquetandballs
Oct 19th, 2007, 11:14 AM
This no hoper has done lots for Australia as well don't forget the good things she has done like the great fed cup wins and winning the hopman cup. Welcome back home jelena wish you all the very best. :)

Bullshit, she has bled Tennis Australia dry time and time again. I'm not sure who the biggest loser is...her or tennis Australia. She has done NOTHING for Australian tennis.

vutt
Oct 19th, 2007, 12:09 PM
... She has done NOTHING for Australian tennis.

Hm. Remind me when it was last time when aussie woman reached GS SF?

racquetandballs
Oct 19th, 2007, 12:23 PM
Hm. Remind me when it was last time when aussie woman reached GS SF?

Thats it?. Thats your basis for why Tennis Australia should pour more money into this fat arse loser who denies Australia when it suits her, but comes running home when it suits her over putting the money into gee I don't know 4 or 5 junior girl programs?

WhatTheDeuce
Oct 19th, 2007, 01:48 PM
Is Jelena even getting money from TA? :unsure: She's not getting special treatment of any kind as far as I know. She's being given the same privileges as any Australian player would, and she's earned that at the very least.

Erika_Angel
Oct 19th, 2007, 03:52 PM
From what I've read, she isn't even getting coaching at the moment. Just being offered a place to train, and players to hit with, just like any other player of her current standards. I'd hardly call that leeching off Tennis Australia.