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JuJupova
Oct 13th, 2007, 10:26 AM
:rolleyes:

Mackep83
Oct 13th, 2007, 10:28 AM
maybe Maria??

Demska
Oct 13th, 2007, 10:29 AM
Maria is only 20. She has many years left in her.

Venus, yes.

Emina.
Oct 13th, 2007, 10:31 AM
stupid question.

patch.
Oct 13th, 2007, 10:31 AM
No.

Mackep83
Oct 13th, 2007, 10:32 AM
I cant see how sharapova can improve her game anymore...she has power yes...but all the other women also have power and they have more brain than maria...maria will not win a major anymore...Iäm pretty sure of that

.Andrew.
Oct 13th, 2007, 10:33 AM
Why Venus? She's playing really well right now :rolleyes: She has played 3 straight weeks. Give her a break.

Maria is only 20 :rolleyes:

Mackep83
Oct 13th, 2007, 10:33 AM
And since Mauresmo won wimbledon, i believe anyone can do that, so, I wouldent be surprised if Venus win wimbledon at the age of 35

lympyisthebest
Oct 13th, 2007, 10:34 AM
I remember Venus saying that she'll retire when Serena does.

Привет
Oct 13th, 2007, 10:39 AM
Yes, Venus should retire immediately because she lost a match.

Masha should retire because she is in bad form. Actually, from now on, every single player who gets into a patch of bad form should retire. That way we could have a professional tour where there are only about 10 players playing, brilliance! :yeah:

alexia1huff
Oct 13th, 2007, 10:48 AM
should venus and maria retire? the way people talk bout they it seems that they should :lol:, the way the commentators talk about many players (like a polish commentator about vaidisova yesterday - she should :haha: )many should. Venus should still play some 2 years IMO, play the amount justine plays, but that's only if she doesn't keep on having injuries otherwise, there is really no point of struggling like that, unless she really loves it, but she has so many other plans so that she won't be bored. She could just go for the WTT in 4-5 years time.
Hey plus she just got the her clothing contract so i guess she has to fullfil it!

Cat123
Oct 13th, 2007, 11:00 AM
Yeah, Venus should retuire, after winning a Grand Slame only 3 months ago. And of course MAria, she's practically a pensioner! You know, what with her dodgy shoulder and all...

what planet are you on exactly?!

tilliii
Oct 13th, 2007, 12:03 PM
venus, like, only won wimbledon this year. are you insane? as for maria, if it keeps going like this..then maybe she should do something in fashion. it's one or the other. glamour and sweat do not mix. :(

Cat123
Oct 13th, 2007, 12:09 PM
True. Just ask Kornikova...

hotandspicey
Oct 13th, 2007, 12:16 PM
Maria is only 20. She has many years left in her.

Venus, yes.

Its nice to retire a Hall of Famer, 6 grand slams, an Olympic gold in singles and doubles, 36 titles, and the fastest serve in women's tennis and millions in the bank. ;) :worship: :bounce: I would say yes too. :lol: :p

Beny
Oct 13th, 2007, 12:21 PM
Why Venus? She's playing really well right now :rolleyes: She has played 3 straight weeks. Give her a break.

Maria is only 20 :rolleyes:

This is a poor excuse. There are players who play more. And playing 3 Tier-III-IVs in a row is something a player like Venus should be able to make. Considering she didn't have to face a TOP10 player,had Bye-s etc.

Of course I'm not talking about if she should retire or not :lol:
of course not

tennis_lover89
Oct 13th, 2007, 12:40 PM
what a stupid thread, so every player the was in bad form for a short while should had already retired?

roooobert
Oct 13th, 2007, 12:42 PM
who the hell would quit a job making millions of dollars for something you think is funny? maria is 20 and will win several more slams, vee won wimbledon this year, stupid question.

simba
Oct 13th, 2007, 12:44 PM
Why? please go find something to do.

Pasta-Na
Oct 13th, 2007, 01:01 PM
no :o

cook29
Oct 13th, 2007, 01:44 PM
you should retire you dumb ass, get a life and find something to do.When you are even 1% as successful as either Venus or Maria , you may find better things to do then talk out you big hole from behind.

Venus Aand maria could stuff you stupid behind with there extra dollars from theis retirment fund.

dum dum

Natalicious
Oct 13th, 2007, 01:45 PM
this thread :zzz:

*W*
Oct 13th, 2007, 01:51 PM
i agree with you:)i don't love this kind of threads

V-MAC
Oct 13th, 2007, 02:06 PM
Venus and Maria will dominate the tour together next year ;)

pepsi
Oct 13th, 2007, 02:19 PM
Sharapova, yes. Unless Sharapova wants to continue being the whipping girl of the WTA and likes it.

Shawn
Oct 13th, 2007, 02:25 PM
Guys! i think this was meant to be a joke. I am not happy with the way Venus played over the past 3 wks but i'm sure she isn't either. The bottom line is, when Venus is in good form she beats the top players and struggles against everyone else. That's the reason why at the US open i was worried from the start. She was peaking too early, i like to see her work her way into a tournament. (example..Wimbledon 07)

Nemo_Kool
Oct 13th, 2007, 02:39 PM
man y r ppl even justifying this stupid thread with an answer its obvious the started and those that agree with the statement are fu**ing idiots!

@Sweet Cleopatra
Oct 13th, 2007, 02:47 PM
may be venus after 2 years , but Maria she's 20

starin
Oct 13th, 2007, 03:29 PM
This is a poor excuse. There are players who play more. And playing 3 Tier-III-IVs in a row is something a player like Venus should be able to make. Considering she didn't have to face a TOP10 player,had Bye-s etc.

Of course I'm not talking about if she should retire or not :lol:
of course not

no byes. and its easy to play 3 weeks in a row when you lose in the 1st or 2nd rd in each one a la Dementieva.

DA FOREHAND
Oct 13th, 2007, 03:36 PM
Yes they both should retire, when there playing days are over, and not just muddle around in no mans land playing meaningless exho's against relics that don't know how to let go of the tennis racquet long enough to go out and get a life.

Simplicity.
Oct 13th, 2007, 03:38 PM
I cant see how sharapova can improve her game anymore...she has power yes...but all the other women also have power and they have more brain than maria...maria will not win a major anymore...Iäm pretty sure of that

She might as well retire then :rolleyes:

Itll be hard finding enough people to play tournaments if everyone who "will not win a major anymore" is forced to retire.

IanRadi
Oct 13th, 2007, 03:47 PM
Yes, Venus should retire immediately because she lost a match.

Masha should retire because she is in bad form. Actually, from now on, every single player who gets into a patch of bad form should retire. That way we could have a professional tour where there are only about 10 players playing, brilliance! :yeah:

Lovely sarcasm :worship:

BuTtErFrEnA
Oct 13th, 2007, 03:55 PM
Its nice to retire a Hall of Famer, 6 grand slams, an Olympic gold in singles and doubles, 36 titles, and the fastest serve in women's tennis and millions in the bank. ;) :worship: :bounce: I would say yes too. :lol: :p


brilliant repsonse to the poster.. lol :worship:



word of advice though for future reference....never argue with an idiot, they bring you down to their level then beat you with experience ;)

Tennisaddict
Oct 13th, 2007, 04:36 PM
Dumb thread. Venus and Maria are not done at all. Maria has all the time of the world to change her game for the better. Venus is doing well this year compared to last year. Many top ten wins, a slam win, she's healthy. She also seems to be able to play more. One bad loss won't change that.

Veronique
Oct 13th, 2007, 04:47 PM
I do remember a so-called Venus fan calling for her to retire around Wimbledon. Just brilliant!

@Sweet Cleopatra
Oct 13th, 2007, 04:48 PM
venus can win 3 more wimbledon , when I saw her in her best form in wimbledon , I wonder what's that , how can she plays like that , and Maria's 20 , she's having bad days as all players have , so you're really kind of stupid .

AlexBarrington
Oct 13th, 2007, 04:49 PM
now everytime venus or maria or serena loose, they should retire? what a useless thread

Poostirring
Oct 13th, 2007, 04:49 PM
Yes, as from this minute.

Jenin fan
Oct 13th, 2007, 11:37 PM
:rolleyes:

yes, a person who won Wimbledon and a person who made a GS final this year should retire, because they suck!:help: :rolleyes:

Hope you recover Maria and good luck next time Venus!

IceSkaTennisFan
Oct 14th, 2007, 12:20 AM
This is a poor excuse. There are players who play more. And playing 3 Tier-III-IVs in a row is something a player like Venus should be able to make. Considering she didn't have to face a TOP10 player,had Bye-s etc.

Of course I'm not talking about if she should retire or not :lol:
of course not
Yeah Venus should be able to win consecutive tier 3s, but when's the last time Venus has played this much tennis in a year? It's the end of the year and people do start to get tired. Excuses get made for other top players like Sharapova, Kuznetsova, Mauresmo, Chakvetadze, etc. when they lose their first match in a tournament, but Venus wins a major, something none of the others mentioned have done this year, and she gets treated like crap if she loses later in the season when it doesn't even mean as much :rolleyes:

AcesHigh
Oct 14th, 2007, 12:41 AM
People will be eating their words when Sharapova returns to the top 3 by the end of 2008 with another slam final, if not a slam win and a few Tier I's ;)

Donny
Oct 14th, 2007, 12:52 AM
People will be eating their words when Sharapova returns to the top 3 by the end of 2008 with another slam final, if not a slam win and a few Tier I's ;)

Henin
Serena
Venus
Ivanovic


She's 2-7 against these players in Grand Slams. Assuming she's not in the top four by the AO, she could have to face any two of these players just to reach the finals. She could possibly face three if she somehow makes it to the final.

You think she could beat these players in succession? She wasn't capable at her peak, and certainly not when she's recovering from an injury.

Of course, she could get an extremely easy draw...

mankind
Oct 14th, 2007, 12:54 AM
People will be eating their words when Sharapova returns to the top 3 by the end of 2008 with another slam final, if not a slam win and a few Tier I's ;)

Under only 3 circumstances would this scenario above occur:

1.) Sharapova makes drastic changes to her game, gets a real coach, learns how to volley, hit a forehand, hit a serve, hit a slice, get some movement. In this case, I would say Sharapova is a deserving champion and a great player. :worship:

2.) Justine Henin, Serena, Venus, Ana, Jelena, Agnes, Marion, Sveta, Lena D., Hantuchova and all other good players are completely off their game for reasons ranging from injury, to "mysterious circumstances" or personal tragedy. In this case, I would say good on Sharapova for keeping healthy, but also say that she was lucky, her wins during this time period were flukes. :wavey:

3.) Sharapova, in a last ditch effort to heal whatever injuries she has, starts to juice herself up, and performs monetary/other favours to keep this secret. In this case I would say she's a cheat and deserves to be banned for life. :(

To be honest, I don't think any of these scenarios will come to pass. I think it's most likely to be:

4.) Sharapova keeps playing the same mindless Bollitieri game, wins a few titles, might go far in a slam or 2, but will end the year in the 6-10 range if she's lucky.

AcesHigh
Oct 14th, 2007, 01:01 AM
Pova has just had a bad year. She'll heal up, find her serve and honestly, that is all she needs. She is slowly adding to her game and her strokes, when on, are lethal. She's defeated Henin, Serena and Venus before so it's not like she's incapable.

If she avoids Venus, she'll win Wimbledon next year.. or at least make the AO or USO final. And she'll capture Miami or IW, or take one of the summer tournaments. Just my opinion. She is one of the few players that can take Henin out in slams. She has one factor most of these other girls don't have: mental toughness. She'll pull through.

Chunchun
Oct 14th, 2007, 01:07 AM
Its nice to retire a Hall of Famer, 6 grand slams, an Olympic gold in singles and doubles, 36 titles, and the fastest serve in women's tennis and millions in the bank. ;) :worship: :bounce: I would say yes too. :lol: :p

No. Elena has 124mph now and will soon overtake her :rocker2:

Dan23
Oct 14th, 2007, 02:32 AM
Under only 3 circumstances would this scenario above occur:

1.) Sharapova makes drastic changes to her game, gets a real coach, learns how to volley, hit a forehand, hit a serve, hit a slice, get some movement. In this case, I would say Sharapova is a deserving champion and a great player. :worship:

2.) Justine Henin, Serena, Venus, Ana, Jelena, Agnes, Marion, Sveta, Lena D., Hantuchova and all other good players are completely off their game for reasons ranging from injury, to "mysterious circumstances" or personal tragedy. In this case, I would say good on Sharapova for keeping healthy, but also say that she was lucky, her wins during this time period were flukes. :wavey:

3.) Sharapova, in a last ditch effort to heal whatever injuries she has, starts to juice herself up, and performs monetary/other favours to keep this secret. In this case I would say she's a cheat and deserves to be banned for life. :(

To be honest, I don't think any of these scenarios will come to pass. I think it's most likely to be:

4.) Sharapova keeps playing the same mindless Bollitieri game, wins a few titles, might go far in a slam or 2, but will end the year in the 6-10 range if she's lucky.
Your points are a joke and shows you either:
1) never watch Maria play
2) dont know a lot about what you are seeing when you watch Maria
3) disregard what you see and just post crap about Maria anyway

You're getting trashier and trashier in your posts :lol: not that they were too flash to begin with....marshmallow disease maybe?? You forget Maria beat the 2 best recent day players in her 2 winning slam finals...she knows what it takes and has an appetite to improve. It will be funny when you and others are proven wrong.

mankind
Oct 14th, 2007, 02:38 AM
she knows what it takes and has an appetite to improve.

I won't be convinced by that until she gets a real coach and starts to make changes. She can't just hope that it will be like it was when she was 17 and a relative unknown with nothing to lose. Many people, such as yourself, point to this victory as proof that she "knows what it takes", forgetting that times are different now, and she's going to have to do different things to live up to this "great champion" label you are placing on her.