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Whatzup
Oct 6th, 2007, 11:19 PM
I was wondering how much does a coach get paid, especially coaches from the top players.

For exemple Justine Henin works for a long time with Rodriques. It seems sometimes she can't without him and he has done great things for Justine. She has to pay him well, because she doesn't want him to go to another player who pays more.

I know players have to do the tennis job, but for some players like Henin coaches are very important. What do they get? 10% or 25% from the money of top players or much more less? I think it pays good! ;)

goldenlox
Oct 6th, 2007, 11:27 PM
Players pay $3,000 to $4,000 per month for an individual coach, and fees for court time and hitting partners can easily run an additional $2,000, said youth coach Viktor Yanchuk.

I would guess top players also pay a percentage of their earnings too.

Andy.
Oct 7th, 2007, 12:48 AM
Ive heard a figure of around 10% of their earnings. So if its a top player a coach would earn something like 100,000 to 200,000 a year. Thats just what I heard it culd be more.

tennnisfannn
Oct 7th, 2007, 01:12 AM
Players pay $3,000 to $4,000 per month for an individual coach, and fees for court time and hitting partners can easily run an additional $2,000, said youth coach Viktor Yanchuk.

I would guess top players also pay a percentage of their earnings too.
I cannot imagine that to be true. Can you imagine Justine after a 1.4ml at the uso giving Carlos that kind of money, that is probably what her room alone costs, it would be an insult to him. A percetage sounds more like it. Perhaps that is what the lower ranked players would pay.

Baby-Na
Oct 7th, 2007, 01:38 AM
how about sex? :shrug: :p

rockstar
Oct 7th, 2007, 01:43 AM
how about sex? :shrug: :p

justine? :unsure:

mankind
Oct 7th, 2007, 01:43 AM
justine? :unsure:

Yuri? :unsure:

borisyBACK
Oct 7th, 2007, 02:02 AM
Yuri? :unsure:

He takes everything, gives Maria some pocket money.

eldanielfire
Dec 14th, 2014, 12:56 AM
He takes everything, gives Maria some pocket money.

:lol::lol::lol:

Rogue.
Dec 14th, 2014, 02:01 AM
The coaches of the top players make bank, I'm sure. Wasn't it Clijsters' coach who quit on her after she won her first slam because she only gave him a couple thousand of her earnings?

SERVivor
Dec 14th, 2014, 02:28 AM
wow what a thread bump. I think it depends on the level of the player and the reputation of the coach. The coaches of the top few players make serious bank I would guess.

crescentmoon
Dec 14th, 2014, 02:39 AM
The coaches of the top players make bank, I'm sure. Wasn't it Clijsters' coach who quit on her after she won her first slam because she only gave him a couple thousand of her earnings?

I think I read somewhere that after her first slam win he got paid an extra 7,500 and that he made the comment "I learned my lesson". A week after winning the slam he quit.

phantomplayer89
Dec 14th, 2014, 03:20 AM
The coaches of the top players make bank, I'm sure. Wasn't it Clijsters' coach who quit on her after she won her first slam because she only gave him a couple thousand of her earnings?

By virtue of winning the USO Series, Clijsters doubled her USO prize money from $1.1 million to $2.2. million, which at the time, was the largest payout ever in women's sports. Out of that, she only gave her coach a $9,000 bonus. Needless to say, that was a slap in the face, and he quit a week later.

SArcher
Dec 14th, 2014, 04:56 AM
Clijsters should have made her coach eat a big bowel of spiders and maybe then he wouldn't be so ungrateful he was able to ride on the coatail's of her talent and awesomeness.

Tamus
Dec 14th, 2014, 04:58 AM
The only figure I ever remember seeing reported was Brad Gilbert 750,000/year with the LTA (Murray)

Boke75
Dec 14th, 2014, 06:13 AM
Clijsters should have made her coach eat a big bowel of spiders and maybe then he wouldn't be so ungrateful he was able to ride on the coatail's of her talent and awesomeness.

I know you meant "bowl". :lol::lol::lol:

phantomplayer89
Dec 14th, 2014, 06:35 AM
Clijsters should have made her coach eat a big bowel of spiders and maybe then he wouldn't be so ungrateful he was able to ride on the coatail's of her talent and awesomeness.

He's not being ungrateful. He got shafted. He helped her get over mental block and finally win a GS, in which she takes home a $2.2 million dollar purse. And to only receive $9,000 dollars as a bonus? That's not even close to 5%. Coaches don't ride on the coattails of player. They help to hone their game to help them become champions.

Alexander18
Dec 14th, 2014, 06:53 AM
He's not being ungrateful. He got shafted. He helped her get over mental block and finally win a GS, in which she takes home a $2.2 million dollar purse. And to only receive $9,000 dollars as a bonus? That's not even close to 5%. Coaches don't ride on the coattails of player. They help to hone their game to help them become champions.

I know you are correct in saying this, but it still made me laugh. 9000 of 2 200 000 is 0.4%, casually saying "that's not even close to 5%" is an understatement.

drg
Dec 14th, 2014, 06:56 AM
romanian press said SImona paid Fissette 471.000 this year...

phantomplayer89
Dec 14th, 2014, 09:35 AM
I know you are correct in saying this, but it still made me laugh. 9000 of 2 200 000 is 0.4%, casually saying "that's not even close to 5%" is an understatement.

I guess I should have said that's not even close to 1%. The coach totally got shafted.

george2210
Dec 14th, 2014, 10:45 AM
I heard of 10% from prize money + 2-3k euro per week.

Do the players have to pay taxes for the money they give to coaches?

eldanielfire
Dec 14th, 2014, 11:03 AM
He's not being ungrateful. He got shafted. He helped her get over mental block and finally win a GS, in which she takes home a $2.2 million dollar purse. And to only receive $9,000 dollars as a bonus? That's not even close to 5%. Coaches don't ride on the coattails of player. They help to hone their game to help them become champions.

That's not even 0.5%. No wonder he felt he got shafted, Gready Kim. I think a bit less of her now :(

bobito
Dec 14th, 2014, 11:19 AM
The only figure I ever remember seeing reported was Brad Gilbert 750,000/year with the LTA (Murray)

He was contracted to do more than just coach Murray though. Gilbert also worked with the LTA's network of coaches and high performance centres and did tennis camps at under 12 and under 14 level. And the LTA has a history of wasting money to a ridiculous degree. I'd be surprised if any of the WTA players are paying their coach quite as much as that.

brickhousesupporter
Dec 14th, 2014, 01:04 PM
Coaches have different deals in place. For example, Patrick and Uncle Toni don't get a salary.

Volcana
Dec 14th, 2014, 01:21 PM
By virtue of winning the USO Series, Clijsters doubled her USO prize money from $1.1 million to $2.2. million, which at the time, was the largest payout ever in women's sports. Out of that, she only gave her coach a $9,000 bonus. Needless to say, that was a slap in the face, and he quit a week later.And exactly which players coached by Marc Dehous has risen to fame and glory since?

Maybe he got paid the bonus he was worth.

HowardH
Dec 14th, 2014, 01:35 PM
And exactly which players coached by Marc Dehous has risen to fame and glory since?

Maybe he got paid the bonus he was worth.

That doesn't mean he is or isn't an excellent coach. He helped her achieve something she had really struggled to do. Considering the money he was given it definitely seems like it was too low a percentage of her winnings. If she considered that the bonus he was worth, then it seems like a clear message that she felt she didn't need him around anymore.

Still, you cannot judge a coach simply by the resume of their students. If you are coaching less talented pupils you may be a great coach but although you will help them reach their potential that may still be far below the highest international level. Most players with good coordination who start young and train very hard with good guidance can reach at minimum a level close to entry pro level, or a very high amateur level at least, but not every student is a potential grand slam winner or even top tenner. All a coach can do is help to bring out a player's potential, so some of it is dependent on whom you get to coach, and some of it on luck. Of course I haven't met him, so I don't really know how insightful or effective he is as a coach beyond what I have read.

Regarding the original question of the OP, it seems from the varying answers in this thread that different players may have quite different set ups. It all depends on what the player and coach deem is fair.

phantomplayer89
Dec 14th, 2014, 01:36 PM
And exactly which players coached by Marc Dehous has risen to fame and glory since?

Maybe he got paid the bonus he was worth.

Considering Marc Dehous had been her coach since 2002, had helped get her up to #1, and after years of dealing with her choking in big matches, finally helped her win a GS, he's deserved a lot more than $9,000 out of $2.2 million payday. Not to mention, Kim missed the first GS of the season and was ranked #133 in the world. He did a masterful coaching job to help get her back to the top of the game. I hope you don't think Clijsters, with her mental fragility, was able to dominate on HCs without help?

It doesn't matter what Dehous has done since. He played an integral part in helping Kim win her first GS. and got screwed over. Could you imagine Maria doing that to Thomas Hogstedt after winning the 2012 FO to complete her career GS? Or Serena doing that to Patrick winning Wimbledon and the USO in 2012? Or Vika doing that to Sam Sumyk after winning her maiden GS?

brickhousesupporter
Dec 14th, 2014, 01:38 PM
Considering Marc Dehous had been her coach since 2002, had helped get her up to #1, and after years of dealing with her choking in big matches, finally helped her win a GS, he's deserved a lot more than $9,000 out of $2.2 million payday. Not to mention, Kim missed the first GS of the season and was ranked #133 in the world. He did a masterful coaching job to help get her back to the top of the game. I hope you don't think Clijsters, with her mental fragility, was able to dominate on HCs without help?

It doesn't matter what Dehous has done since. He played an integral part in helping Kim win her first GS. and got screwed over. Could you imagine Maria doing that to Thomas Hogstedt after winning the 2012 FO to complete her career GS? Or Serena doing that to Patrick winning Wimbledon and the USO in 2012? Or Vika doing that to Sam Sumyk after winning her maiden GS?

Patrick doesn't get paid a salary or at least he didn't at the time of those GS.

selesbooz
Dec 14th, 2014, 02:05 PM
Patrick doesn't get paid a salary or at least he didn't at the time of those GS.

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SquirrelPova
Dec 14th, 2014, 02:15 PM
Patrick doesn't get paid a salary or at least he didn't at the time of those GS.

Of course not. Everybody knows how you are called when you are paid for having sex with someone :lol:

Actually, Mouratoglu is such an opportunistic and careeist man that not being paid is not the most important thing in that case. He has always been obssessed with fame and glory and Serena brought what matters for him. Serena made him, not the opposite.

On a serious note, what the Mouratoglu Academy amazingly did (outside the little cometh Baghdatis). How many young players reached the top level under him and his academy ? Players like Laura, Pavs and Grigor, all Junior champs before joining him, wasted a lot of time in their careers while being with Mouratoglu. So why paying such a mediocre coach.

Trizap
Dec 14th, 2014, 02:57 PM
Of course not. Everybody knows how you are called when you are paid for having sex with someone :lol:

Actually, Mouratoglu is such an opportunistic and careeist man that not being paid is not the most important thing in that case. He has always been obssessed with fame and glory and Serena brought what matters for him. Serena made him, not the opposite.

On a serious note, what the Mouratoglu Academy amazingly did (outside the little cometh Baghdatis). How many young players reached the top level under him and his academy ? Players like Laura, Pavs and Grigor, all Junior champs before joining him, wasted a lot of time in their careers while being with Mouratoglu. So why paying such a mediocre coach.

You are right. The man is a fraud. He calls himself a Mastermind Coach when he has done nothing before coaching Serena. Just last week Patrick gave this scathing interview in L'equipe where he criticizes the French Federation and also the Davis Cup for not ever contacting him for advice or asking him to Coach.:lol::lol:. He used Ree once again by saying he proved his ability by getting her to Number One. Richard Gasquet got all in his azz and said that it was easy to coach Serena as she was already a legend and multislam champion. Then he said Patrick had never developed a player and that when he tried with Chardy he quit after 2 months and threw him to another coach at his academy.:tape:

VeeJJ
Dec 14th, 2014, 03:52 PM
^^^:lol:

That couldn't be more accurate.

Daddy Patrick is just some good eye candy.

Djo-Coeur
Dec 14th, 2014, 03:59 PM
How much to pay for a coach?
It depends how far you go. :tape:

http://i.imgur.com/XgGayCC.jpg

guichard
Dec 14th, 2014, 04:06 PM
Old but good article about it. http://www.forbes.com/2008/08/22/brad-gilbert-coaching-tennisbiz08-biz-sports-cx_bg_0822coach.html



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Trizap
Dec 14th, 2014, 04:10 PM
^^^:lol:

That couldn't be more accurate.

Daddy Patrick is just some good eye candy.

I dont even consider him eye candy and if he was it would be like some of those nasty azz candies made of insects..like ants or crickets. ( Yes people this shit actually exists:lol:) . I hate that gray shish on his face. His teeth are like little gnarly coffee/piss stained dentures that are too small for his mouth. He actually looks better when he is not smiling. The crows feet eyes and the hair dye job is sickening. He does have a nice eye colour and a descent booty. But different strokes for different folks so we just see different on that one.:lol::lol:

Trizap
Dec 14th, 2014, 04:21 PM
And speaking of...we know that Patrick and Ree were once doing the wild thing but if you remember there was heavy belief and gossip that Justine and Carlos were involved also. I did not like the man then as he was constantly cheating with the hand signals and snide marks about Ree, but I do believe that he was a good coach to Justine and brought alot to her game.