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tonybotz
Oct 5th, 2007, 10:43 PM
Does anyone else agree with this? It just seems really unfair that a top player can enter these events and dominate the field.

AcesHigh
Oct 5th, 2007, 10:46 PM
Venus wasn't top ten when she committed to play a Tier IV if that's what you're talking about.

Monica_Rules
Oct 5th, 2007, 10:50 PM
I think its a fair thing but sometimes having a top 10 player does wonders for the event.

Also top 100 players shouldn't be allowed to play 25k's

Marcus1979
Oct 5th, 2007, 10:50 PM
Venus was in the 50s from memory when she comitted.

FrchTwst
Oct 5th, 2007, 11:11 PM
Quit bitching! Seoul, Tokyo, Bangkok are so grateful for Ms. Venus flying across the world to play in their tournament. Venus is praticing and gathering points for YEC

ptkten
Oct 5th, 2007, 11:14 PM
If someone says this again :o

For the last time, she entered the event BEFORE she won Wimbledon, she was ranked much, much lower when she entered. If she would have pulled out, everyone would have been so angry with her saying she that she let the fans down, she has no class, she doesn't stand by her committments, etc.

she'll be criticized if she does play or criticized if she doesn't play with some people, she can never win.

...btw, I know that wasn't the case with Tokyo, but she wasn't just going to stay a week in Asia in between Seoul and Bangkok doing nothing.

Demska
Oct 5th, 2007, 11:18 PM
Venus is afraid to compete with the likes of Henin.

Pureracket
Oct 5th, 2007, 11:18 PM
I think these threads are getting lamer by the minute.

Seriously, what if Venus were the #1 player in the world when she made this schedule? She still should be able to play in the tournaments. Logic informs us that, if a top 10 player continuously plays lower tiered tourneys, the top 10 player is not going to be a top 10 player for longer anyway. The lack of points wouldn't allow it.

tennis_lover89
Oct 5th, 2007, 11:20 PM
these kind of threads are becoming borring..

CanIGetAWhat
Oct 5th, 2007, 11:21 PM
Does anyone else agree with this? It just seems really unfair that a top player can enter these events and dominate the field.Venus was hardly in the top 50 when she committed to a Tier IV. :weirdo:

heytennis
Oct 5th, 2007, 11:27 PM
Tier threes are fine but I think a top tenner should be banned from tier fours.
I think its great that Venus is honouring her commitments though.

Pureracket
Oct 5th, 2007, 11:28 PM
Venus is afraid to compete with the likes of Henin.....kinda like the player in your avatar who's fellating her racket?:confused:

maximus82
Oct 5th, 2007, 11:34 PM
While I am sad that I don't get to see Vee playing other top players at the other tournaments, I think it's great that she is playing *period*.

It makes the tournament a bit dull, in that the winner seems set from the get go...but (a) it helps the tourney's attendance and (b) you never know if one of these journeywomen or up and comers will be able to claim their first big win.

calabar
Oct 5th, 2007, 11:41 PM
The threads on this board are getting dumber and dumber. So what if Venus was a top 10...top..5 or top whatever? She (and ALL tennis players) can enter any tournament she wants (assuming she qualifies). Without some bonafide superstar, most of these lower tiered tournaments would fall flat economically.

You whiners REALLY need to get a life.

spiceboy
Oct 5th, 2007, 11:44 PM
Tier threes are fine but I think a top tenner should be banned from tier fours.


They actually are banned to play them. People are forgetting that Bangkok and Tokyo are Tier III and everybody can play them. Venus played in Seoul because she was ranked out of the Top 10 when the commitment list was out. She (and Seoul) were lucky as in the next rankings (after US Open) she entered the Top 10 ;)

spiceboy
Oct 5th, 2007, 11:45 PM
The threads on this board are getting dumber and dumber. So what if Venus was a top 10...top..5 or top whatever? She (and ALL tennis players) can enter any tournament she wants (assuming she qualifies).

You're wrong. Top 10 players aren't allowed by WTA to play Tier IV tournaments.

Bruno71
Oct 5th, 2007, 11:47 PM
They actually are banned to play them. People are forgetting that Bangkok and Tokyo are Tier III and everybody can play them. Venus played in Seoul because she was ranked out of the Top 10 when the commitment list was out. She (and Seoul) were lucky as in the next rankings (after US Open) she entered the Top 10 ;)

Players at the top of the Gold Exempt list can only play Tier III's if there's no Tier II or higher tournament held simultaneously, and they cannot play Tier IV's. So, Maria was allowed to play Birmingham but she wouldn't have been allowed to play, for example, Bangkok, since it conflicts with Moscow. Jelena was in the 14-20 group on the Gold Exempt list so she was actually required to play a few Tier III's.

@Sweet Cleopatra
Oct 5th, 2007, 11:51 PM
sure they can't prevent it and usually tier 4 have less points , I don't think Venus is there to collect points , shé's there to explore new tournements , but what she actually does from other side's making the side of her draw for other girls tier 1 , so it's up to the player , and it was cool to see her in the korean outfit , but not tp play much of these tier 4 .

Andy.
Oct 5th, 2007, 11:59 PM
I think players should be able to play wherever they want

DutchieGirl
Oct 6th, 2007, 12:03 AM
:yawn:

Boring thread, and I disagree anyway - it's nice for the tourney if a top 10 player can play.

OsloErik
Oct 6th, 2007, 12:43 AM
This happens now and then, that a player is committed to a tournament long before they are excluded from it. Venus this year, Sharapova in '04...it's nothing new. I think it's great!

OsloErik
Oct 6th, 2007, 12:46 AM
Here's a question: how the hell is Forest Hills an event? It's got a stronger field than most Tier IV's, but there are ITF's that award more money.

The Kaz
Oct 6th, 2007, 12:47 AM
Quit bitching! Seoul, Tokyo, Bangkok are so grateful for Ms. Venus flying across the world to play in their tournament. Venus is praticing and gathering points for YEC

:unsure:

spiceboy
Oct 6th, 2007, 01:00 AM
Here's a question: how the hell is Forest Hills an event? It's got a stronger field than most Tier IV's, but there are ITF's that award more money.

Strong field: Same city, right before US Open
Prize Money: Half of the prize of a Tier IV but then half of the players playing it.

Havok
Oct 6th, 2007, 02:49 AM
Top 10 players should be limited to the amount of Tier III and Tier IV events they play in. Though it is hard to do that because when you enter an event you don't know what your rank will actually be when the event actually takes place. Catch 22.

Aaron.
Oct 6th, 2007, 02:51 AM
Dumass are you slow or just new to tennis Top ten players arent allowed to play Tier IV

This news is so last year :haha:

roarke
Oct 6th, 2007, 03:00 AM
It simple stupid an outrageous all these suggestions that top 10 players should not be allowed to play any tournament they like. Players are like any professional who make their living from the jobs they do. Saying they shouldn’t be allowed to play is like saying that successful companies shouldn’t be allowed to bid on contracts against less successful firms. It’s like saying that higher paid employees shouldn’t get the opportunity to work on certain type of projects o allowed bonuses, raises and promotions because it should be reserved for lower paid employees. The tournaments are the work areas for professional tennis players. Most of you would sue or report the companies to the EEOC if you are barred from achieving your career objective simply because you are more successful at your job than another employee. Lower ranked players have the challenger circuit to hone their skills. When they are ready and enter the professional circuit they should be prepared for vapid competition. Everyone else in the regular work world has to compete accordingly, why shouldn’t they? It’s like being an accountant and not be allowed to audit small firms because you have always audited large firms in the past!

new-york
Oct 6th, 2007, 03:19 AM
Venus is afraid to compete with the likes of Henin.

i hope that it's "second degree."

frontier
Oct 6th, 2007, 03:37 AM
I think Venus is disappointing some haters here,she is not supposed to win she is supposed to withdraw and be criticised:rolleyes: .I am one of her biggest fans and is happy she is playing and enjoying herself,she is preparing for next year.I am so happy that she is closing out matches that she has been losing beginning of the year.She is confident and is winning consecutive matches.Go Vee!:bounce:

*JR*
Oct 6th, 2007, 05:25 PM
I believe that when the roadmap takes effect in 2009, there'll only be 3 classifications: the 4 mandatories (not counting the Slams, which will also be) the upper tier events (a cross between I and II) and the lower tier (a cross between III and IV).

Of course there used 2B Tier V's until a few years ago. Still love the way Smash won The Battle of the Anna's in the '02 Shanghai final. :yeah: (After losing both of her other matches to Miss Famous for Being Famous that year). :tape: