View Full Version : Lindsay Davenport. - Can she be #1 again?

Jul 17th, 2002, 02:24 AM
Seven or eight months ago Lindsay was world #1. She lost that position through injury not defeat. She was without a GS title in 2001, but only Venus Williams and Jennifer Capriati can take much comfort in that. The tour may seem like a whole new place, but for Lindsay, it's pretty much the same.

Justine Henin is performing at a higher level than last year.
Serena Williams is performing at a MUCH higher level than last year.
Martina's been injured.
Jenn, Venus and Kim are off a bit.
Monica, Jelena and Amelie are much the same.

It's pretty much the same top ten, in the same order, adjusting for Serena going from #6 to #1. Which means that if Lindsay is as good as she was when she got hurt, #2 is a reasonable goal. And if #2 is a reasonable goal, #1 is possible. And if she can't solve the Williams sisters, there's still #3. After all, who else is any better than they were seven months ago? Justine, but she's not THAT much better. Everyone else s pretty much what they were, (hoping for Martina). Lindsay's likely to be just as good as ever if the knee holds up. Recent pictures of her show a Lindsay leaner than in her slam years. That bodes well.

A leaner, faster Lindsay Davenport with better endurance.
Sounds a bit like Venus. eh?

Cybelle Darkholme
Jul 17th, 2002, 02:26 AM
I'll believe it when I see it.

Jul 17th, 2002, 02:35 AM
I think if she is in shape definately

Jul 17th, 2002, 02:39 AM
Sorry, but I don't think .... she has a lot a lot a lot of point to defend !

from Stanford to Sanex Wta Tour Championships .....

Zurich 434 WON
Munich 401 F
Filderstadt 401 WON
Los Angeles 341 WON
Linz 328 WON
U.S. Open 206 QF
Stanford 199 F
New Haven 187 F
San Diego 140 SF

Total : 2637 points

Jul 17th, 2002, 02:39 AM
cybelledarkholmexx - I know it seems unlikely, but you have to admit that #3 should be totally achievable. Except Justine and Serena, who's BETTER than they were last year? And Lindsay was #1 last year. It's not an outrageous idea.

Jul 17th, 2002, 02:47 AM
Lindsay does not have to get to #1 by the end of the year, just whenever, the defending points dont mean anything

Jul 17th, 2002, 02:53 AM
It's all up to Lindsay. If she believes she can match the sisters power for power and challenge them at their current level, there is no reason why she cannot reclaim the top ranking.

But as was mentioned she faces an uphill battle after the US Open. Not to say she should not try and match her 2001 fall results, but her biggest chance will be in 2003.

Cybelle Darkholme
Jul 17th, 2002, 02:58 AM
Not that I dont think she can do it, becaue its possible.

Things in lindsays favor:

1) venus and serena will most likely attend school in the fall
2) martina is still out.
3) Jen is not having the year she did last year

Things against linds

1) she's just comeback from an injury, major rust
2) serena is on another level
3)the top four are pretty secure

Jul 17th, 2002, 03:02 AM
but she has to rebuild her rank, she missed over half a year, she will be defending nothing next year!!!
it is all up hill starting next year, even if she doesnt defend half of the indoor season points!!!

she has plenty of time

Jul 17th, 2002, 05:17 AM
Aside from any physical hinderance, I think motivation may become Lindsey's biggest challenge.

Sam L
Jul 17th, 2002, 05:19 AM
I doubt it but good luck to her :)

Jul 17th, 2002, 07:33 AM

Williams Rulez
Jul 17th, 2002, 10:44 AM
She can do it... but I think right now, she'll be more concerned with maintaining her rank... by next year, this time, she may be as high as number 2 or even 1 simply because she does well at the slams and plays more tournaments than Venus or Serena and she wins a good deal of those that Venus or Serena don't play, so why not?

Jul 17th, 2002, 12:33 PM
Of all the players challenging the Williams sisters, I think that Lindsay is perhaps the only one that can contend with them. She has the game with the big serve and big groundstrokes to make inroads into their great defence.

Of course, she will probably lose to them more often than win (it's partly mental I think but even then Serena and Venus are still way above everyone else anyway).

However, she rarely loses to anyone else and is very consistent in all tournaments - no.1 is not unattainable, we saw Lindsay get to no.1 last year without a slam, we could see it again.

The only problems though are that Lindsay has loads to defend for the next six months so she'll have to wait. Also, if Serena keeps winning everything then no one else is going to even get near no.1.

Jul 17th, 2002, 05:00 PM
She can but it won't be this year, she has too many points to defend.

Jul 17th, 2002, 05:56 PM
Lack of motivation? Lindsay has actually stated that because of this surgery she is seriously considering playing longer than she anticipated. She stated she missed the competition extremely and is very excited to be back. Her improved fitness is evidence of her motivation.

Jul 17th, 2002, 05:56 PM
SHe would always be a top 3 player.
I believe she is the only GENUINE challenger to the sisters, until King Richard's new protege comes on the scene:)

Jul 17th, 2002, 06:19 PM
if she is fit again she will be back at the top of women tennis next to serena and venus!!

I believe in her, she is able to do it!

Jul 17th, 2002, 08:01 PM
At some point next year Davenport will be number 1 again.
Firstly because she has the ability to be number 3 fairly easily and secondly the Williams sisters do not play the full 17 tournaments throughout the year anyway.
So Davenport could be number 1, as she would probably play the full 17 tournaments or more.
Going by Davenports results before she was injured, if she keeps that consistency for 17 tournaments she will be NUMBER 1 AGAIN.
I predict closer to the end of next year.

Jul 17th, 2002, 08:09 PM
I agree with everyone who stated that #1 is likely by the end or middle of next year. She has too many points to defend right now and coming off an injury wont make it any easier. She definetly is the next best thing to Venus and Serena and in my opinion she has always been better than Martina Hingis. So #3 is possible this year, but #1 will come next year.

Jul 17th, 2002, 08:21 PM
I believe that she'll make it back to the top. I don't know if she can handle the Williams sister tho... :s

Jul 17th, 2002, 08:26 PM
My point is Davenport will not have to handle the williams sisters to get to number 1.
The williams sisters cannot take playing 17 tournaments throughout the year. They normally only play 12.
So Davenport will earn all the extra points from an additional 5 tournamants.
So if Davenport plays 17 tournaments and losses to a williams sister evertime she will be number 1.
wouldnt that be weird!

Jul 17th, 2002, 08:51 PM
All good luck to Lindsay. I hope she does well.

But might I point out that she hasn't beaten either Williams sisters since 2000.
Whereas both Monica and Justine have beaten both Venus and Serena in 2001/2.

So Lindsay certainly has a great shot at contending with them, but she's not the only one.
Also comebacks can take longer than we expect (see Pierce, Mary)

Williams Rulez
Jul 18th, 2002, 09:13 AM
Lindsay is a better player... she can easily come back... like Monica last year... :)

Jul 18th, 2002, 09:23 PM
I think she's more concerned with winning grand slams than being computer #1. Davenport herself didn't place any real value on her rank at the end of last year.

She's obviouslyas fit as she's ever been, it's a question of health. Will her knees go out again? If she's healthy, she can contend at all the slams except the French IMO. What she needs are a few good wins in the hard court season against the big babes.

For her sake I hope she wins more majors:) This generation(Seles, Davenport, and Capriati) only have a few more years left.

Jul 18th, 2002, 09:36 PM
anything can happen but you have to be realistic, she's not really good on clay, which accounts for one Grand Slam, and by the way the williams sisters might play 17 events, sure she might sneek in a few wins against the sisters but other than that i think she needs to work on her performance on clay, just like the sisters did...

Jul 19th, 2002, 04:42 AM
It's always possible. Since she's signed up to play all three California hard-court tournaments, she's obviously committed to the game. And there are the reports of her being fit.
It might take her a while to get past Serena and Venus, but I think Lindsay can do it.

Jul 19th, 2002, 04:51 AM
Raj - That's a hope, but not a realistic one. Venus has 14 tournaments now, she's scheduled to defend everything, and is actually committed to events after the US Open.

Serena only has 12, but again, she's scheduled to play after the US Open, something she hasn't done in the past. In other words, your hope that Venus and Serena will play infrequently enough to let someone get ahead of them is likely to be frustrated.

Besides, Serena averages 445 points per tournament. To match her in 17 tournaments, Lindsay would have to average 300 points per tournament. The only two players on tour who average that many points per tournaments are, yes, you guessed it, Venus and Serena.

Jul 19th, 2002, 06:26 AM
I hope she can, I feel sorry for her bad run with injury:sad:

Jul 19th, 2002, 06:36 AM
I think she can do it. Perhaps she will drop a bit in the fall, but not so drastically. and then it is all up hill. she could win the aussie since she has done so well there.

so anyway I believe she can.

Jul 19th, 2002, 08:39 AM
of course she can, and I'm sure she will do it!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jul 19th, 2002, 12:29 PM
Can she? Yes Will she? No Why?: Venus and Serena Williams (they are 14-3 combined against Lindsay since 2000)

Bright Red
Jul 19th, 2002, 01:30 PM
Lindsay is looking great these days. I've seen recent photos of her and have been struck by how lean and fit she looks. I hope that this new look translates to improved mobility on court, because that's what it's going to take for her to regain her pre-injury rank.

I doubt that she'll get to #1 anytime soon, though. The games been raised up a notch or two since she left. Lindsay will need some time to catch back up.

It's great to see her playing again.