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@Sweet Cleopatra
Oct 5th, 2007, 05:35 AM
:(

she shouldn't do that , she should play the top tournements ,

those low ramked less money players deserve the titels more than her

FrchTwst
Oct 5th, 2007, 05:36 AM
At least she's playing tournaments...

mdterp01
Oct 5th, 2007, 05:38 AM
Jesus Cristos. She's criticized for not playing, and now criticized for the certain tournaments she plays. As if she's the only top player to have ever played smaller tournaments. :rolleyes: :bs: :help:

pengluv
Oct 5th, 2007, 05:40 AM
If anything shes making the smaller tournaments more recognizable.... You should tell the same thing to janko.... but at least it'll have to make these girls step up.

Venus3000
Oct 5th, 2007, 05:43 AM
Please most of the top girls do that including "your Maria"!!!

:(

she shouldn't do that , she should play the top tournements ,

ZeroSOFInfinity
Oct 5th, 2007, 05:43 AM
I don't think Venus gives a damn about it. So do the girls.

Besides, they will have at least a chance to face a top WTA player - experience is more valuable than $$$.

heytennis
Oct 5th, 2007, 05:43 AM
wut abetch

friendsita
Oct 5th, 2007, 05:44 AM
:(

she shouldn't do that , she should play the top tournements ,

I thought she committed to this tournaments when she wasn't top10.

brent-o
Oct 5th, 2007, 05:44 AM
In my opinion, it's good practice for the girls in these tournaments. If you sign up for a field just to grab some easy points, hoping you don't run into any really good players, then you won't ever get among the game's elite. If Venus Williams is in the field, you know that's a challenge.

darrinbaker00
Oct 5th, 2007, 05:46 AM
Venus isn't stealing anything, my friend. The promoters of these smaller tournaments all offered her a six-figure appearance fee, and she accepted. Do you really think she would fly halfway around the world for the $25,840 winner's share?

friendsita
Oct 5th, 2007, 05:46 AM
Jesus Cristos. She's criticized for not playing, and now criticized for the certain tournaments she plays. As if she's the only top player to have ever played smaller tournaments. :rolleyes: :bs: :help:

I don't think Venus gives a damn about it. So do the girls.

Besides, they will have at least a chance to face a top WTA player - experience is more valuable than $$$.

:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:

IceSkaTennisFan
Oct 5th, 2007, 05:47 AM
:(

she shouldn't do that , she should play the top tournements ,
The title of this thread makes no sense whatsoever :help:

If lower ranked players don't want to play Venus, they can play another low tier tournament like Tashkent ;) I'm sure if you asked a player like Alicia Molik, she'd be glad she had another chance to play Venus. It looks like playing a Williams sister normally helps inspire her to raise her level. Also, it gives lesser known opponents much more attention than had Venus not shown up. I think that's a good thing.

friendsita
Oct 5th, 2007, 05:49 AM
If anything shes making the smaller tournaments more recognizable.... You should tell the same thing to janko.... but at least it'll have to make these girls step up.

True ;)

mankind
Oct 5th, 2007, 05:53 AM
I'm sure a lot of the lower ranked players would be kind of annoyed, but at the same time it gives them an opportunity to play a top player. Caroline Wozniacki might have well won her first title in Tokyo, but at the same time she played well against Venus and that should fare her better than winning a tournament playing people ranked lower or only slightly higher than her.

Infiniti2001
Oct 5th, 2007, 05:59 AM
Venus , you damn crook
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/4259/trinitipm4.gif

Dementieva_Dude
Oct 5th, 2007, 06:15 AM
It's players like Venus that make the game more popular, and allow the WTA to run more tournaments. The younger, lower ranked players should be thanking Venus for showing up...without her the stands might well be empty (or close to it).

Volcana
Oct 5th, 2007, 06:19 AM
:(

she shouldn't do that , she should play the top tournements , mGetting the Wimbledon champ, one of tghe most famous players inthe world, means this tournament can charger higher ticket prices, and higher prices for ads. Getting a player like Venus increases the odds of a small tournament surviving. Small tournaments NEED big stars.

Is it better for lower ranked players that these smaller tournaments don't exist? You could argue that a Jankovic or Petrova or Ivanovic doesn't make a tournament that much extra money, but they don't cost as much as Venus either.

It's a business.

@Sweet Cleopatra
Oct 5th, 2007, 06:27 AM
I know she's not doing it for money , but other girls do .

~Cherry*Blossom~
Oct 5th, 2007, 06:33 AM
you've got a nerve. Remember 2004?

@Sweet Cleopatra
Oct 5th, 2007, 06:37 AM
what happened in 2004 ?

mankind
Oct 5th, 2007, 06:47 AM
what happened in 2004 ?

A certain Wimbledon champ played and won Seoul.

Ben.
Oct 5th, 2007, 06:52 AM
and won tokyo also don't forget ;)

@Sweet Cleopatra
Oct 5th, 2007, 06:57 AM
she was 17 , and actually tokyo was her first win , and she wasn't rich .
and try to reply to the thread it's about Venus not Maria

Marcus1979
Oct 5th, 2007, 06:58 AM
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones :angel:

sfselesfan
Oct 5th, 2007, 06:58 AM
They're clearly paying her to play them. Obviously she's needed for promotional purposes. Top players have always done this for the smaller events. STFU already!


SF

sfselesfan
Oct 5th, 2007, 06:59 AM
she was 17 , and actually tokyo was her first win , and she wasn't rich .
and try to reply to the thread it's about Venus not Maria

http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/ART/ART269/COM045.jpg

Again, STFU

SF

Dawn Marie
Oct 5th, 2007, 07:00 AM
Venus isn't stealing anything, my friend. The promoters of these smaller tournaments all offered her a six-figure appearance fee, and she accepted. Do you really think she would fly halfway around the world for the $25,840 winner's share?



Agreed!! Any real tennis knows this. Money talks in this world and tennis is no exception. Tennis is a sport u know. :lol: :)

Marcus1979
Oct 5th, 2007, 07:01 AM
she was 17 , and actually tokyo was her first win , and she wasn't rich .
and try to reply to the thread it's about Venus not Maria

wrong

Sharapova won Wimbledon

reached SF in Tier II in Beijiing
won Tier IV in Seoul
Won Tier III in Tokyo a week later
reached F in Tier I in Zurich
reahced SF in Tier II in Philadelphia

Ben.
Oct 5th, 2007, 07:02 AM
I mean Venus committed to these lower tier events like seoul, tokyo & bangkok at the time she was injured, plus she didn't know where her level would be at so maybe playing a few of these lower tier events would of gained her valuable match play. if she was in the top 10 at the start of the year then she probably wouldn't of committed to those events maybe. but i'm glad to see stick to her committments to make people happy.

besides this time next year, she won't be allowed to play so many lower tiers because she'll be a gold exempt player i think which will only allow her to play one tier III event.

mankind
Oct 5th, 2007, 07:03 AM
@Sweet Cleopatra, you have officially been owned by about 5 people in your own thread.

CORIA01
Oct 5th, 2007, 07:36 AM
it is good for smallers tournaments
people will be more interested in them
so it is a good idea!

VenusSerenaBlvd.
Oct 5th, 2007, 07:44 AM
Shoot! if I was offered 6-figs to play tiny/unknown tournaments, I would do it too. Either way, I like how Venus is playing in the Fall and gaining points. Venus gets to travel to parts of Asia that she rarely goes to. So why not take a vacation and play some tournaments along the way. She deserves a break every now and then. I think if she qualifies for the YEC and does well there, she will have some momentum going into the new year.

fufuqifuqishahah
Oct 5th, 2007, 07:52 AM
Sweet Cleopatra, you are so negative.

If you are going to look at it this way, then you have to also look at this as Venus giving opportunities to lower ranked players in greater money Tier I/II tournaments.

Its a wash really, and i think you are just lookin to hate

ce
Oct 5th, 2007, 07:57 AM
get a life

Veronique
Oct 5th, 2007, 07:57 AM
Such ignorance!

Zweli
Oct 5th, 2007, 08:12 AM
Sweet Cleopatra,I thought u were really sweet,you are sour grapes,stop hating on Venus.

chill88
Oct 5th, 2007, 08:14 AM
yeah i agree it's good for the promotion of tennis worldwide. Whatever reasons Venus has for playing in those tournaments, or the organizers have for inviting her.. it's okay coz the winners are the people who wants to see stars come to their country.

it just depends on what the lower ranked players are thinking. Some can just be excited to be playing against top players.. for some i don't know maybe their playing smaller tournaments since it's what their ranking would allow to get MD or quali, or some are trying to get some points to up their ranking and allow them to play bigger tournies and then they get Venus in the first round? I think it's also frustrating on their part.. :shrug:

Zweli
Oct 5th, 2007, 08:24 AM
And how dare you say Venus is stealing,in other words you have declared her a THIEF.Did the WTA filed a complaint of missing tournaments?Get real .Venus has not done anything to you,she is only playing tournaments she commited to earlier,at least you should give her some credit for showing up ,I'm sure Venus would appreciate that .Stop being MEAN, writing threads for the sake of writing them .

Highlandman
Oct 5th, 2007, 09:26 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol:

And so why played Sharapova Istanbul & Birmingham? :confused:

Big scandal! :p

Shuji Shuriken
Oct 5th, 2007, 10:19 AM
she was 17 , and actually tokyo was her first win , and she wasn't rich .
and try to reply to the thread it's about Venus not Maria

What a fucking retard :help::lol::tape:.

Kick ass Venus :bounce::kiss:. We love you baby :hearts::hearts:

V-MAC
Oct 5th, 2007, 10:42 AM
Yep, Vee is evil, MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!! :devil:

thrust
Oct 5th, 2007, 11:01 AM
If Venus is getting large appearance fees, she should not be getting prize money for playing tier 3-4 tournaments. The same for any top player.

vwfan
Oct 5th, 2007, 11:31 AM
The tournament directors sure don't think so! ;)

vwfan
Oct 5th, 2007, 11:38 AM
If Venus is getting large appearance fees, she should not be getting prize money for playing tier 3-4 tournaments. The same for any top player.who died and put you in charge of the WTA?

Venus isn't doing anything illegal, unprofessional, or immoral. she's playing tennis and kicking butt!:wavey:

hotandspicey
Oct 5th, 2007, 11:46 AM
she was 17 , and actually tokyo was her first win , and she wasn't rich .
and try to reply to the thread it's about Venus not Maria

:haha: you cannot be serious. Grow up and stop sucking sharapova's :tape:

thrust
Oct 5th, 2007, 11:53 AM
Of course Venus is not doing anything illegal. This is just another example of the stupidity of the WTA. Venus should not be getting points for these wins either, nor should these tournament wins be counted for her official tournament win record. Unfortunately, I am not the head of the WTA yet, but should be-lol!!

Marcus1979
Oct 5th, 2007, 12:01 PM
just remember when Venus comitted to these events she was not even in the top 50 from memory. She is purely sticking to her commitments (I thought thats a good thing)
its like she can't win either way she plays it and wins everyone is out criticising her, she doesn't put effort in and looses early she gets criticised, she withdraws from events she gets criticised.

really as far as the haters go Venus was never going to win here.

vwfan
Oct 5th, 2007, 12:10 PM
Of course Venus is not doing anything illegal. This is just another example of the stupidity of the WTA. Venus should not be getting points for these wins either, nor should these tournament wins be counted for her official tournament win record. Unfortunately, I am not the head of the WTA yet, but should be-lol!!wtf! she is playing within the rules as they now stand. :help:

besides, as many have pointed out, she was asked to play in Japan by tournament directors and was already committed to Bangkok and Seoul before she was back in the top ten. so, duh!

vwfan
Oct 5th, 2007, 12:10 PM
just remember when Venus comitted to these events she was not even in the top 50 from memory. She is purely sticking to her commitments (I thought thats a good thing)
its like she can't win either way she plays it and wins everyone is out criticising her, she doesn't put effort in and looses early she gets criticised, she withdraws from events she gets criticised.

really as far as the haters go Venus was never going to win here.exactly! :rolleyes:

winone23
Oct 5th, 2007, 12:11 PM
Of course Venus is not doing anything illegal. This is just another example of the stupidity of the WTA. Venus should not be getting points for these wins either, nor should these tournament wins be counted for her official tournament win record. Unfortunately, I am not the head of the WTA yet, but should be-lol!!

This is a really really really bad joke. :help:

venusallday
Oct 5th, 2007, 12:31 PM
any tourny that Roger Federer plays in and wins (last year) is deserving of the female equivalent one year or another regardless of its Tier .:D

KennyChante4ever
Oct 5th, 2007, 12:35 PM
:(

she shouldn't do that , she should play the top tournements ,

I know what you're saying but Venus, I suppose, wanted the chance to play in Asia this year. If you read her blog, she's really enjoying herself. She appreciates the host countries (if that makes you feel better). :)

BuTtErFrEnA
Oct 5th, 2007, 12:50 PM
:D i love it...venus can't win with you people either way so keep it coming :D

DA FOREHAND
Oct 5th, 2007, 01:05 PM
don't feel bad sweet cleo, at least you got four pages and counting. Good thread.

fufuqifuqishahah
Oct 5th, 2007, 05:21 PM
>_<

@Sweet Cleopatra
Oct 5th, 2007, 05:25 PM
okay sorry . I just felt that this might bother the other players than need money and feel these tournements are their oppurtunity .

DemWilliamsGulls
Oct 5th, 2007, 05:31 PM
:(

she shouldn't do that , she should play the top tournements ,

I bet you dont think that when Venus looses to low ranked and younger players in top tournaments now do you?

tennis_lover89
Oct 5th, 2007, 05:31 PM
I think it's good as it helps smaller tournaments, and people have a better chance to see great players.

Melly Flew Us
Oct 5th, 2007, 06:00 PM
she was 17 , and actually tokyo was her first win , and she wasn't rich .
and try to reply to the thread it's about Venus not Maria
it is perfectly valid to discuss the fact that your favourite did the same. was it stealing when she did it? didn't you know that she did it? are you just a smack talker?

Hashim.
Oct 5th, 2007, 06:44 PM
:weirdo:

sweetpeas
Oct 5th, 2007, 06:47 PM
The title of this thread makes no sense whatsoever

True that.

Slutiana
Oct 5th, 2007, 06:48 PM
@Sweetie! :hearts:

Dawn Marie
Oct 5th, 2007, 06:48 PM
About 6 months ago haters were saying that Venus would never win another slam and would never get back in top ten. Even said Vee should retire.

Now that she's bounced back with some confidence after her injury, haters say she should play top tourneys.

Don't hate on Venus for proving you wrong once again. She got back in top ten and she's sticking to her commitments.

DON'T HATE THE PLAYA',HATE YOUR GAME.

Kim's_fan_4ever
Oct 5th, 2007, 06:50 PM
:spit:
Good one :lol:

Pureracket
Oct 5th, 2007, 06:51 PM
So it's all about money with her then? I thought she was already rich?


Don't feel bad. You made a good point.They must've finally gotten rid of you over on MTF which is odd because they are the ones you complain about how sorry womens tennis is too.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

partbrit
Oct 5th, 2007, 06:57 PM
I understand that being challenged by a top player is good, but as a fan, I would completely lose interest in say, a Tier IV, if Venus or someone of her caliber were there. What fun is that when you're pretty sure who's going to win? I think the top players should be prohibited from playing Tier IV tournaments.

Marcus1979
Oct 5th, 2007, 10:47 PM
I understand that being challenged by a top player is good, but as a fan, I would completely lose interest in say, a Tier IV, if Venus or someone of her caliber were there. What fun is that when you're pretty sure who's going to win? I think the top players should be prohibited from playing Tier IV tournaments.

Venus was not exactly a top player when she comitted she was in the 50s

WF4EVER
Oct 5th, 2007, 10:51 PM
Has she officially dethroned Maria in this regard?

Bijoux0021
Oct 5th, 2007, 10:57 PM
Has she officially dethroned Maria in this regard?
Could be. Maybe that's one the reasons some Williams' haters have such a big problem with Venus playing these tournaments.

schorsch
Oct 5th, 2007, 11:12 PM
Blah, obviously it would rock if she played some top tournas, but as long as she's out there competing, you cant say anything about it. Hingis did exactly the same thing last year as well capturing a title in Kolkata, because she was allowed to play at the lower tournas instead of the bigger tournas that were held in the same week. I'm sure the tournament directors and the fans are thrilled. So :) I hate the fact that there are appearence fees though. This money could be spent in other ways like new facilities for kidz to practice or new courts whatever.

But I know where the thread starter is coming from, coz I would have loved for Kirilenko to win yet another title. At least she got more experience in finals against top players.

jacobruiz
Oct 5th, 2007, 11:13 PM
Hmm.:scratch: I remember Maria taking a lot of shit from this board when she played a tier IV at the age of 17. But Venus is above criticism? Um, OK.:rolleyes:

For the record, I don't have any problem with it. But when posters say that Maria does things for money, remember, she is not the only one.

rhz
Oct 5th, 2007, 11:23 PM
Smaller tournaments need the likes of Venus to sell tickets, so thank you Ms. Williams

Pureracket
Oct 5th, 2007, 11:25 PM
Hmm.:scratch: I remember Maria taking a lot of shit from this board when she played a tier IV at the age of 17. But Venus is above criticism? Um, OK.:rolleyes:

For the record, I don't have any problem with it. But when posters say that Maria does things for money, remember, she is not the only one.
Instead of saying the same thing, I'll try the copy&paste method thall the kids are trying:
http://www.wtaworld.com/showpost.php?p=11770771&postcount=10

jacobruiz
Oct 5th, 2007, 11:31 PM
Instead of saying the same thing, I'll try the copy&paste method thall the kids are trying:
http://www.wtaworld.com/showpost.php?p=11770771&postcount=10



Right, right - it's not like she committed to it as the Wimbledon champ. And Maria was not in the top 20 when she committed to play her last tier IV.

Pureracket
Oct 5th, 2007, 11:33 PM
Right, right - it's not like she committed to it as the Wimbledon champ. And Maria was not in the top 20 when she committed to play her last tier IV.
Oh, I hadn't even paid attention to the part about Sharapova. I never had a problem with her playing whatever she chose to play.

mboyle
Oct 6th, 2007, 12:50 AM
:(

she shouldn't do that , she should play the top tournements ,

Ever think maybe she's tired of always traveling to Europe and she views this as perhaps a once in a lifetime chance to have an excuse to visit several less well traveled Asian cities? One thing I have always admired about the sisters is they don't treat tennis just like a job. They live their lives as well.

Apoleb
Oct 6th, 2007, 12:53 AM
:haha: @ this thread.

Venus!!!!!!!! :mad: You're a thief. I hate you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Forehand_Volley
Oct 6th, 2007, 01:03 AM
Venus committed to these events when she was way outside the top 10. She very well could have not honored her commitment, but I think it says a lot about Venus' character that she fulfilled it with a smile and warm embrace to these Tier IV events.

People will bitch about anything.

Fan_of_Venus
Oct 6th, 2007, 01:09 AM
Venus committed to these events when she was way outside the top 10. She very well could have not honored her commitment, but I think it says a lot about Venus' character that she fulfilled it with a smile and warm embrace to these Tier IV events.

People will bitch about anything.

:lol: Apparently. I think Venus honoring her commitments is a good thing. It shows the type of person she is.

terjw
Oct 6th, 2007, 01:25 AM
Venus committed to these events when she was way outside the top 10. She very well could have not honored her commitment, but I think it says a lot about Venus' character that she fulfilled it with a smile and warm embrace to these Tier IV events.

People will bitch about anything.

Exactly. I mean one of the things I really don't like about the sisters is the way they pull out of tournaments. But here she is honouring her committments, the TD and fans there want her. And since she wasn't on the gold exempt list for this year which is based on rankings after USO last year - she actually is required to play a number of tier 3s.

She and Jelena will not be allowed to do this next year because they will both be on the gold exempt list.

mykarma
Oct 6th, 2007, 01:31 AM
@Sweet Cleopatra, you have officially been owned by about 5 people in your own thread.
:lol::lol::lol::tape:

Nicolás89
Oct 6th, 2007, 01:33 AM
she is stealing them money?, please

she is doing them a really big favour by just appearing :)

mykarma
Oct 6th, 2007, 01:35 AM
just remember when Venus comitted to these events she was not even in the top 50 from memory. She is purely sticking to her commitments (I thought thats a good thing)
its like she can't win either way she plays it and wins everyone is out criticising her, she doesn't put effort in and looses early she gets criticised, she withdraws from events she gets criticised.

really as far as the haters go Venus was never going to win here.
You know it. :worship::worship::worship:

mykarma
Oct 6th, 2007, 01:37 AM
So it's all about money with her then? I thought she was already rich?


Don't feel bad. You made a good point.
I'm sure you agreeing with him made him feel better. :help:

mykarma
Oct 6th, 2007, 01:45 AM
Hmm.:scratch: I remember Maria taking a lot of shit from this board when she played a tier IV at the age of 17. But Venus is above criticism? Um, OK.:rolleyes:

For the record, I don't have any problem with it. But when posters say that Maria does things for money, remember, she is not the only one.
Hmmm. Did you read the title of the thread? The debate is since Maria and others have done it, why she Venus be accused of stealing money. If you didn't have so much hate for Venus you'd be able to see that you and the people that are defending Vee agree. :shrug:

drake3781
Oct 6th, 2007, 02:05 AM
Venus isn't stealing anything, my friend. The promoters of these smaller tournaments all offered her a six-figure appearance fee, and she accepted. Do you really think she would fly halfway around the world for the $25,840 winner's share?

Right.

mGetting the Wimbledon champ, one of tghe most famous players inthe world, means this tournament can charger higher ticket prices, and higher prices for ads. Getting a player like Venus increases the odds of a small tournament surviving. Small tournaments NEED big stars.

Right.

Is it better for lower ranked players that these smaller tournaments don't exist? You could argue that a Jankovic or Petrova or Ivanovic doesn't make a tournament that much extra money, but they don't cost as much as Venus either.

It's a business.

Right.

I know she's not doing it for money , but other girls do .

Wrong.

They're clearly paying her to play them. Obviously she's needed for promotional purposes. Top players have always done this for the smaller events. STFU already!

SF

Right (except the last bit.)

If Venus is getting large appearance fees, she should not be getting prize money for playing tier 3-4 tournaments. The same for any top player.

Appearance fees plus prize money is why you will find top players there.

I know what you're saying but Venus, I suppose, wanted the chance to play in Asia this year. If you read her blog, she's really enjoying herself. She appreciates the host countries (if that makes you feel better). :)

Deluded.

So it's all about money with her then? I thought she was already rich?


Don't feel bad. You made a good point.

The richer you are, the more you need to keep it up. Yes it is a good point, worth discussing.

I understand that being challenged by a top player is good, but as a fan, I would completely lose interest in say, a Tier IV, if Venus or someone of her caliber were there. What fun is that when you're pretty sure who's going to win? I think the top players should be prohibited from playing Tier IV tournaments.

Many, probably should say most, people are only interested in top players. :shrug:

Ever think maybe she's tired of always traveling to Europe and she views this as perhaps a once in a lifetime chance to have an excuse to visit several less well traveled Asian cities? One thing I have always admired about the sisters is they don't treat tennis just like a job. They live their lives as well.

Deluded.

:lol: Apparently. I think Venus honoring her commitments is a good thing. It shows the type of person she is.

:lol: OK.

Exactly. I mean one of the things I really don't like about the sisters is the way they pull out of tournaments. But here she is honouring her committments, the TD and fans there want her. And since she wasn't on the gold exempt list for this year which is based on rankings after USO last year - she actually is required to play a number of tier 3s.

She and Jelena will not be allowed to do this next year because they will both be on the gold exempt list.

Perfectly explains it.

As I assume the biggest tennis fans flock here, it's (past) time to pull our collective heads out of the sand, stop being deluded fans, and open our eyes to how this business works.

polishprodigy
Oct 6th, 2007, 02:06 AM
Meh. She gives these tournaments extra recognition. And if the other players can't step it up, it is not Venus' problem. The other players would be happy anyway with a QF, SF or final. Competition is competition.

Helen Lawson
Oct 6th, 2007, 02:27 AM
She's cashing in on appearance fee money! It's like when I did those tampon ads a couple of years ago where the biracial girl posed as my granddaughter and I gave her advice about swimming in a white bathing suit. Many watts away from Oscar podium, but big, easy money. Most of your wealth from an Oscar or a major win in tennis is the crap you can soak people for later. She's not stealing anything. It's not like when Martina Navratilova was stealing wildcards from girls ranked five hundred in the world!

sky20748
Oct 6th, 2007, 02:30 AM
venus can play whatever she chooses to play and if the lower ranked players cannot handle it then boo hoo.they need to step up there game so that they can start winning at the higher ranked tournaments.if thats the case then the higher ranked players should get mad that the lower ranked players are invading there tournaments.they the higher ranked players should be pissed when the lower ranked players play the grand slams and every so often knock out a top player.case in point sharapova at the us open.so this makes no sense.you can play where the hell ever you wish to play.bring your game and see who blinks first.

Nicolás89
Oct 6th, 2007, 02:31 AM
okay sorry . I just felt that this might bother the other players than need money and feel these tournements are their oppurtunity .

i think thats more of a thread subject ;)

Goai
Oct 6th, 2007, 02:35 AM
I agree in a way. Obviously she doesn't need the money since the appearance fee would be more than the winners check. She should be playing the tier 2 event instead... I don't know why she was allowed to play Seoul last week.

tennis_lover89
Oct 6th, 2007, 02:41 AM
I think the thread title is a bit exagerated..she's not STEALING money:p

@Sweet Cleopatra
Oct 6th, 2007, 03:42 AM
each time I want to edit the title , the site drops , and don't bash me , I'm sensetive you know .

@Sweet Cleopatra
Oct 6th, 2007, 03:45 AM
I'm sure you agreeing with him made him feel better. :help:

him :rolleyes: ? I'm girl :cool:

homogenius
Oct 6th, 2007, 04:04 AM
each time I want to edit the title , the site drops , and don't bash me , I'm sensetive you know .

the word sense souldn't be allowed in any of your post, even as a typo.

starin
Oct 6th, 2007, 06:49 AM
:tape:
look at you now. Venus playing AIG gave them a great final and Razzano the match of her career which could launch her to great things.

@Sweet Cleopatra
Oct 6th, 2007, 06:55 AM
that's so embaressing for me now

drake3781
Oct 6th, 2007, 07:34 AM
that's so embaressing for me now

You raised a valid question. There are things to learn for all of us, from the people here, so you can ask why next time.

@Sweet Cleopatra
Oct 6th, 2007, 08:09 AM
thanks http://smiles.al-wed.com/smiles/4/009.gif

jacobruiz
Oct 6th, 2007, 09:03 AM
Hmmm. Did you read the title of the thread? The debate is since Maria and others have done it, why she Venus be accused of stealing money. If you didn't have so much hate for Venus you'd be able to see that you and the people that are defending Vee agree. :shrug:


Excuse me, mykarma, but I do not and never have had any "hate" for Venus and don't appreciate you accusing me of having "so much hate". If you make statements like that you should be able to back them up - where's the evidence?