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karin1492
Oct 2nd, 2007, 09:26 PM
Don't. The rules for the race for the championships allows the WTA to arbitrarily choose who is the 8th player to qualify. That means that if Venus or Serena is 9th behind some other player (which I highly doubt will be the case), the WTA can disregard the race rankings and choose one of them for the 8th spot. This is similar to the ATP race that says if a winner of a Grand Slam doesn't automatically qualify by being in the top 8, if their ranking is in the top 20 they get the 8th spot and the person who is holding the 8th spot is out of luck. (This happened in 2004 with Gaston Gaudio, he got the 8th spot by virtue of winning the French Open that year.)

To be honest, both of them deserve to be in the YEC, because they won a Grand Slam this year. The WTA needs a similar rule to allow Grand Slam winners to be able to participate in the YEC.

IceHock
Oct 2nd, 2007, 09:27 PM
100 bucks they wouldn't do it

plantman
Oct 2nd, 2007, 09:36 PM
Not a chance........A player needs to earn the spot! Why else would they call it a "race"?

schorsch
Oct 2nd, 2007, 09:41 PM
that rule suckz... bad!!! real'bad !

Equipped
Oct 2nd, 2007, 09:42 PM
You're assuming that they both will play even if they qualify. Odds on whether both will actually play in Madrid? I'm guessing low.

vwfan
Oct 2nd, 2007, 09:42 PM
the WTA doesn't have the balls, literally!;)

UDACHi
Oct 2nd, 2007, 09:55 PM
yes, just like 2005, right? :p

IMPOSSIBLE
Oct 2nd, 2007, 09:58 PM
what ? whats the whole race idea for, why dont they just chose who they want. It's all about consitancy over the whole season !

Hope Daniela gets in :)

friendsita
Oct 2nd, 2007, 10:01 PM
GS' winners should be there.

Donny
Oct 2nd, 2007, 10:07 PM
Interesting.

In most of the other discussions about Venus and Serena qualifying, you have posters saying things like "If Daniela qualifies over Venus, then she deserves the spot" and "It's the rules, they should play more events."

Now, there seems to be an actual rule that would let Serena and Venus qualify over higherer ranked players, and now the "rules suck". Odd.

On the other hand, If this loophole really does exist, I don't think it should be used. The ATP's rule is one thing- but excluding someone from what might be the biggest event of the year based on personal choice seems wrong.

Serena!
Oct 2nd, 2007, 10:09 PM
Of course all the grand slam winners from that year should be there. AND the WTA obviously wants Venus and Serena there because they will attract so many more people to the tournament than if they werent there.

plantman
Oct 2nd, 2007, 10:13 PM
GS' winners should be there.

Yes your right........IF they've earned the points to get there! Justine's a good example!:)

OsloErik
Oct 2nd, 2007, 10:23 PM
I actually like that rule, although I'm now very curious to see whether they'd pick Sharapova over Hantuchova if that situation presented itself. Sharapova hasn't really won anything big this year, but she is a big-name player like it or not...interesting hypothetical.

faboozadoo15
Oct 2nd, 2007, 10:24 PM
It would be pathetic if each of them won a major and didn't qualify among the other women anyway, especially since they have both played a full schedule by their standards.

This isn't going to happen though because they're both winning matches in the fall, which is something that hasn't happened in a long time.

Donny
Oct 2nd, 2007, 10:29 PM
It would be pathetic if each of them won a major and didn't qualify among the other women anyway,


especially since they have both played a full schedule by their standards.

This isn't going to happen though because they're both winning matches in the fall, which is something that hasn't happened in a long time.

Three backhanded compliments in one paragraph. Impressive.

1000
Oct 2nd, 2007, 10:40 PM
Serena has not played a full schedule. If you saw her original schedule she has played about 70 percent of the tournaments that she was committed for

Marcell
Oct 2nd, 2007, 10:41 PM
Check this out about the rules.

http://www.tennis.com/features/general/features.aspx?id=106620

faboozadoo15
Oct 2nd, 2007, 10:59 PM
Three backhanded compliments in one paragraph. Impressive.

All that I said is completely true....

Getting one THOUSAND points for winning a major should really put any player over the edge and practically equate qualifying. This has never happened before the Williams sisters where a player would win a major and not be in the year end top 8. Venus has half her points coming from Wimbledon and half coming from 10 other events, for instance.

They usually don't win anything in the fall either. They hardly ever play. Venus won an event last week and looks likely to win again this week, and Serena is in Stuttgart.

faboozadoo15
Oct 2nd, 2007, 10:59 PM
Serena has not played a full schedule. If you saw her original schedule she has played about 70 percent of the tournaments that she was committed for

:haha:

Matt01
Oct 2nd, 2007, 11:03 PM
Three backhanded compliments in one paragraph. Impressive.

All 3 of them are true though, if you like them or not.

Matt01
Oct 2nd, 2007, 11:07 PM
Don't. The rules for the race for the championships allows the WTA to arbitrarily choose who is the 8th player to qualify. That means that if Venus or Serena is 9th behind some other player (which I highly doubt will be the case), the WTA can disregard the race rankings and choose one of them for the 8th spot.

They can do that but they proabably won't, and barring anything unpredictable happens, they shouldn't.

fufuqifuqishahah
Oct 3rd, 2007, 12:26 AM
with maria's shoulder problems, i think daniela has a better chance of qualifying over maria than over venus...

Mightymirza
Oct 3rd, 2007, 12:35 AM
whoever earns it should play :shrug: