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TheStrokes
Jul 16th, 2002, 04:17 AM
I'm very amazed by the top women's tennis players, because players #10-30 can volley better than virtually all of the elite few. I guess that's more proof that the top players only need speed and power but no technical skill whatsoever, not to name names. Anyway, who are the top 10 volleyers in the...top 10?

My list:

1) Martina Hingis
By the book, perfect volleys, amazing shotmaking when put to the test.
2) Justine Henin
Her volleys are excellent, she can really mix her game up.
3) Kim Clijsters
Such great athleticism, instinct, and reflex around the net, a shame she isn't up there more often.
4) Daniela Hantuchova
( I think she is ranked #11, but Sandrine is now retired so we don't count her) Very nice volleys, her reach helps her for sure.
5) Amelie Mauresmo
Great form, but you never know what she will show you on a certain day, so a little to inconsistent to be ranked higher.
6) Jennifer Capriati
Nice punching volleys, very powerful, but is a horrible doubles player for some reason.
7) Lindsay Davenport
Decent volleys, nice touch, but since she never shows it, it is hard to put her up higher.
8) Venus Williams
Terrible volleys, only knows how to punish loopy high shots, a decent drop volley saves her from the bottom of the list.
9) Serena Williams
See above, wins all her points at net by crushing loopers, but when her volleys are tested, she is a fish out of water.
10) Monica Seles
Well it's Monica, nothing new here.

Thoughts?

Berlin_Calling
Jul 16th, 2002, 04:37 AM
1. Martina- the best volleys in the business!! Great touch!!

2. Justine- Great feel at net and good anticipation. That great pickup/drop volley during the Berlin Final tells all.

3. Daniela- Great doubles player, and all around great volleys.

4. Serena- Definitlry showed her ability to volley during Wimbly Doubles. Awesome volleys.

5. Lindsay- Great hands. Great doubles player.

6. Kim- all around nice volleyer, but not as good as the above.

7. Venus- a little inconsistent but most of the time, nice swinging, if not drop volleys.

8. Amelie- inconsistent, even though she volleyed incredibly during her match vs Jenn at Wimby. Most of the time though, shes not that good.

9. Jenn- Good volleys sometimes, but the abouve players a definitley better.

10. Monica- God just simply didnt make her a volleyer.

Cam'ron Giles
Jul 16th, 2002, 04:39 AM
Originally posted by TheStrokes
I'm very amazed by the top women's tennis players, because players #10-30 can volley better than virtually all of the elite few. I guess that's more proof that the top players only need speed and power but no technical skill whatsoever, not to name names. Anyway, who are the top 10 volleyers in the...top 10?

My list:

1) Martina Hingis
By the book, perfect volleys, amazing shotmaking when put to the test.
2) Justine Henin
Her volleys are excellent, she can really mix her game up.
3) Kim Clijsters
Such great athleticism, instinct, and reflex around the net, a shame she isn't up there more often.
4) Daniela Hantuchova
( I think she is ranked #11, but Sandrine is now retired so we don't count her) Very nice volleys, her reach helps her for sure.
5) Amelie Mauresmo
Great form, but you never know what she will show you on a certain day, so a little to inconsistent to be ranked higher.
6) Jennifer Capriati
Nice punching volleys, very powerful, but is a horrible doubles player for some reason.
7) Lindsay Davenport
Decent volleys, nice touch, but since she never shows it, it is hard to put her up higher.
8) Venus Williams
Terrible volleys, only knows how to punish loopy high shots, a decent drop volley saves her from the bottom of the list.
9) Serena Williams
See above, wins all her points at net by crushing loopers, but when her volleys are tested, she is a fish out of water.
10) Monica Seles
Well it's Monica, nothing new here.

Thoughts?

Hi SteadyRock...:wavey:

selesrules
Jul 16th, 2002, 04:51 AM
Monica has a good volley. She just isn't comfortable at net but technically her volley is very good. Even against Henin at Wimbledon, she attacked and made a lot of volley winners.

treufreund
Jul 16th, 2002, 06:31 AM
yes monica has pretty good volleys. I think Capriati's are not too good and sometimes Justine volleys a lot but they are often very short and have pretty poor placement. Venus and Serena are better volleyers than you all make it sound too. Kim Clijsters does not hit good volleys off of low shots IMO. But she can hit good groundstrokes off of those shots sometimes. Hingis of course seems to be able to hit the lines with many of her volleys although they are often topspin volleys that are vulnerable to passing shots. However I have seen her hit some great slice volleys and she can scoop up mid court balls and place them anywhere with scary angles!

Gandalf
Jul 16th, 2002, 07:36 AM
1-Hingis
2-Justine
3-Mauresmo
4-Davenport
5-Serena
6-Hantuchova
7-Venus
8-Capriati
9-Kim

100000-Monica and Jelena

Williams Rulez
Jul 16th, 2002, 08:50 AM
I disagree with you list... almost completely

1] Martina
2] Justine
3] Lindsay
4] Amelie
5] Venus
6] Serena
7] Kim
8] Jennifer
9] Monica

I don't think poor Rocksteady has ever seen Jennifer volley before... :sad:

I'm sure he has seen Venus and Serena volley before though, he is so obessed with them.

ASTRID
Jul 16th, 2002, 09:05 AM
MARTINA
Justine
Lindsey

evaz
Jul 16th, 2002, 09:23 AM
here's my list:

Martina
Justine
Lindsay
Daniela
Kim
Jennifer
Serena
Monica
Venus

monicain
Jul 16th, 2002, 09:30 AM
Anna kournikova;)

Vincent
Jul 16th, 2002, 09:57 AM
here is my list
1. Martina
2. Hantuchova
3. Justine

because of martina's great volleys and scary angle, i become her fan!

veryborednow
Jul 16th, 2002, 10:10 AM
Just pointing out Jen has one of the best one handed backhand volley in the top 10. very natural.

martinafan
Jul 16th, 2002, 10:29 AM
Why is it that whenever there is a "out of the top 10...." thread, everyone includes hantuchova?

last time I looked, she wasn't in the top 10.....but everyone seems to include her and discard Dokic.

martinafan
Jul 16th, 2002, 10:32 AM
my list:

1-martina
2-lindsay
3-justine
4-serena
5-jelena
6-kim
7-mauresmo
8-capriati
9-venus
10-seles
10-

Monica@53
Jul 16th, 2002, 10:51 AM
Hingis and Henin are the best volleyers. Davenport, the Williams sisters, Capriati, Mauresmo, Hantuchova and Clijsters all volley very well. Seles and Dokic however are attached to their baselines like glue, esp. Seles.

Elleke
Jul 16th, 2002, 10:57 AM
1 martina and justine
2 kim and lindsay
3 serena
4 venus
5 capriati and mauresmo
6 ...
7...
8...
9..
10..
11..

...
seles and dokic

Volcana
Jul 16th, 2002, 11:47 AM
I think most of you missed the point of the thread. Serena, Venus, Jenn and Monica are the top players. The premise of the thread is the top players have "... no technical skill whatsoever..."

You have to remove the players who actually WIN most of the tournaments from the list, THEN decide who the best volleyers are. And Hantuchova is NOT in the top ten. And probably won't be til after the USOpen.

Everyone try again, and this time, follow the rules! :)

Flappie
Jul 16th, 2002, 12:56 PM
Martina is by far the best! She can hit ANY shot you want!:D

Williams Rulez
Jul 16th, 2002, 01:06 PM
And for your info The Strokes... if you've watched Lindsay play doubles, you'll know that she is probably has 3rd best volley in the top 10.

THE NET
Jul 16th, 2002, 01:08 PM
1.Martina Hingis
2.Anna Kournikova (was no.8)
3.Daniela Hantuchova (will be no.3...soon)
4.Arantxa Sanchez Vicario (was no.1)
5.Serena Williams
6.Justine Henin
7.Lindsay Davenport
8.Amelie Mauresmo
9.Venus Williams
10.Kim Clijsters
.
.
49.Jennifer Capriati
50.Monica Seles
51.Mary Pierce
.
.
.
100.Tammarine Tanasugarn

:bounce:

ceetje
Jul 16th, 2002, 01:54 PM
1-martina
2-justine
3-kim
4-lindsay
5-amelie
6-jennifer
7-jelena
8-serena
9-venus
10-seles

TSequoia01
Jul 16th, 2002, 03:07 PM
I would like to take these list and compare them to how many points are won at net. Venus probably wins more points at net than anyone listed. :cool: The point being, you can have great volleys but if you donot win points, games, and sets with them, who cares. :eek:

Rollo
Jul 16th, 2002, 05:19 PM
Perhaps memories are short, but I can guarentee that Davenport has better volleys than the majority of lists so far indicate.

One way of determining who can actually volley is to see who has won major doubles titles. By that standard ....

1. Hingis(by far)
2. Davenport
3. Venus
4. Henin
5. Serena
6. Clijsters
7. Mausresmo
8. Capriati
9. Dokic
10 Seles

#'s 3 to 10 can all volley resonably well. Seles can't volley to save her life. Jennifer, Dokic, and Mauresmo usually act as if they can't, but they can. It was a pleasant surprise to see Mauresmo let go at Wimbledon.

tennischick
Jul 16th, 2002, 05:22 PM
Seles apparently vollies quite well -- but only in practice. ;) i give the edge to Hingis, Venus and Henin.

Andre@
Jul 16th, 2002, 09:14 PM
The Best: MARTINA HINGIS, no doubt.
Hantuchova
Justine
Venus
Serena

selesfan
Jul 16th, 2002, 09:22 PM
I'd say Martina and Lindsay.

Pureracket
Jul 16th, 2002, 09:31 PM
I believe you all when you say that Hingis has best volleys, but I don't remember seeing her volley that much in singles. I guess only her matches against the top players get televised. She usually loses those as she is pinned far, far behind the baseline.:(

Volcana
Jul 16th, 2002, 10:46 PM
Rollo - Why not do it by GS doubles titles. Then your list is

Martina
Venus
Serena
Lindsay

Has ANYONE else in the top ten won a GS doubles title? And if you watch them Venus and Serena do a LOT of volleying and do it well.

Fingon
Jul 17th, 2002, 01:28 AM
Why not to do it by volleying skills?

Martina and Justine, by far.

Fingon
Jul 17th, 2002, 01:32 AM
Rollo, I don't think doubles titles are a very good indicator of who has good volley skills.

Mary has won doubles titles playing with Martina, does that make her a good volleyer?

The volley in doubles is quite different than in singles, you don't have an approach shot and you only have to cover half of the net. Volleys in doubles are generally put away.

I don't think you can use numbers to determine who the best volleyer is, the only way is to watch the matches and see who does it better.

ktwtennis
Jul 17th, 2002, 01:35 AM
I agree Fingon. Really in doubles your volley is just how good your "hands" are. Anybody with decent athletic skill and one that is talented and hit a lot of balls can do well in doubles.

brickhousesupporter
Jul 17th, 2002, 01:42 AM
Fingon, Martina Nav said during Wimbledon that Justine has a good hands but her volleys are not good. They land short, and she does not have a good transition volley. What do you think?

Grice
Jul 17th, 2002, 03:26 AM
just a point to note... nobody hits drive volleys like MONICA, Venus or Serena... :)
btw, some people ought to be showing Monica much more respect... :rolleyes:

Fingon
Jul 17th, 2002, 04:11 AM
Originally posted by brickhousesupporter
Fingon, Martina Nav said during Wimbledon that Justine has a good hands but her volleys are not good. They land short, and she does not have a good transition volley. What do you think?

Well, she wasn't volleying well in Wimbledon, she wasn't playing well in Wimbledon.

I am not sure what a "transition volley" is but I can say I've seen Justine do things at the net that are truly amazing.

Berlin_Calling
Jul 17th, 2002, 04:13 AM
Fingon, that pickup/drop volley by Justine at Berlin really comes into mind.;)

Fingon
Jul 17th, 2002, 04:21 AM
Originally posted by Chrispy
Fingon, that pickup/drop volley by Justine at Berlin really comes into mind.;)

That's a classic :)

Williams Rulez
Jul 17th, 2002, 09:28 AM
Yeah... any one else besides Rollo agrees that Linsday is one great volleyer? I seriously think she is at least in the top 3.

Sam L
Jul 17th, 2002, 11:43 AM
Am I the only one who thinks Venus has great volleys? :confused:

I think she's second only to Hingis and that's only because Martina has A LOT of singles & doubles experience and Venus still has a lot of potential to improve.

When Venus becomes really good at volleying, she's going to be impossible to pass :eek:

brickhousesupporter
Jul 17th, 2002, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by Fingon


Well, she wasn't volleying well in Wimbledon, she wasn't playing well in Wimbledon.

I am not sure what a "transition volley" is but I can say I've seen Justine do things at the net that are truly amazing.

Transition volley as according to Martina is the first volley that you hit after serving.

harry_potter
Jul 17th, 2002, 12:36 PM
1. martina
2. justine
3. lindsay
4. venus
5. kim

mboyle
Jul 17th, 2002, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by martinafan
Why is it that whenever there is a "out of the top 10...." thread, everyone includes hantuchova?

last time I looked, she wasn't in the top 10.....but everyone seems to include her and discard Dokic.

In my book, Dani is a top ten player, while either Dokic or Mauresmo are not. Anyway, here is my list:

1. Hingis ( amazing touch and feel. If only she could swallow her pride and get there more often!)
2. Henin (have you seen her half vollleys? They are scarry!)
3. Daniela (awesome feel, finishes many points at net)
4. Lindsay (great hands)
5. Venus (good consistent volleys, gets to net sometimes)
6. Serena (good volleys, likes to get to net)
7. Jennifer (great volleys, but prefers the baseline)
8. Kim (so so volley, but never gets there)
9. Monica (at least she can hit a swinging volley)
10. Jelena (can't hit a volley at all)

Rollo
Jul 17th, 2002, 06:12 PM
Thanks Willaimz-Rulez:)Maybe when Linds returns and "refreshes" memories more people will agree with us;)

Fingon-
Most volleys in doubles are "put-away" volleys?
Tell that to whomever is getting hard smashes, volleys, or returns smacked in their direction. Tell that to Ruano and Suarez after meeting the Williams sisters at Wimbledon. See that match?

The question was "who has the best volleys", not the approach shot or game to get to the net. Lisa Raymond has better volleys than all the top 10, but doesn't have the game to get there.

Monica Seles has fantastic groundstokes, but I repeat, once she's at the net and has to deal with a real passing shot(as opposed to a floater she can knock away with a swing volley)she's helpless.
That's not meant as "disrespect", it's a fact. Look at it this way, it's high praise that she's gotten so far without a net game.

I still think doubles is a good measure of volleying skill. Yes, Pierce isn't a first-class volleyer, but she's a lot more comfortable than Seles, for example. While Henin and Clijsters haven't won doubles slams yet, they HAVE made finals, demonstrating that they can volley quite well. Better than Jennifer can at any rate. It's no coincidence they've done better in doubles than she has.

QUEENLINDSAY
Jul 17th, 2002, 08:14 PM
Agree with Rollo!!!!!!

Yes, Venus and Serena win more points in net, but its beacuse they know really well how to set up an attack in the net.
Let the williams play with a different partner and their volleys would be tested.

I'm not saying they are not good volleyers but compare to others.

1. Martina Hingis( tons on doubles titles including majors with diff partners.)
2. Lindsay Davenport( same with martina)
3. Justine
4. Kim
5. Mauresmo
6. Serena
7. Venus
8. Jennifer
9. Jelena
10. Seles

treufreund
Jul 17th, 2002, 09:00 PM
Hiya QUEENLINDSAY :wavey: Nice to see your fave back on tour! :)

Fingon
Jul 17th, 2002, 10:28 PM
Rollo, you hardly see volleying skills in doubles matches, it's normally more to get the ball quickly to the other side, and try to smash the ball to avoid it coming back.

I did see the match between Ruano-Pascual/Suared and the Williams and in fact, Ruano-Pascual and Suarez tried to play much more from the baseline, they stayed at the net much less than for example Raymond/Stubbs would do.

I think the only volley skill they develop with doubles is reaction and a "feeling" of the net, but it can't be compared to singles.

Williams Rulez
Jul 18th, 2002, 08:17 AM
Well, you need a lot of court sense in doubles IMO, which does help in singles when hitting volleys anyway... but doubles requires quick reflexes more than anything else, which is slightly different than in singles. In singles, with a good approach shot, everything becomes easy. But it is really hard to measure the volleying ability of the player themselves really.

tennischick
Jul 18th, 2002, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by Fingon
...I did see the match between Ruano-Pascual/Suared and the Williams and in fact, Ruano-Pascual and Suarez tried to play much more from the baseline, they stayed at the net much less than for example Raymond/Stubbs would do.

i think that that had more to do with being scared of being hit in the stomach with the ball. :eek: :eek:

Raisin
Jul 18th, 2002, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by tennischick


i think that that had more to do with being scared of being hit in the stomach with the ball. :eek: :eek:

Wow, how sweet of them. They might as well defaulted:p :wavey: