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stickwitju(ju)
Nov 14th, 2007, 07:25 PM
...just had to be good at deflecting and deflating...grrrrr

http://www.worldpeace.no/filer/White-Flag-Small.jpg

sfselesfan
Nov 14th, 2007, 07:29 PM
That's what I said:

colorstruck bulimic blonde-loving poof

:wavey:

"Poof" maybe. The rest...not so much.

SF

Ellery
Nov 14th, 2007, 07:37 PM
Oh yeah, now I remember, Alex talked about Stacy and how Cassandra backstabbed Stacy or something :confused: WTF :confused: And then he was like do I need to repeat in Spanish or something, as if Cassandra is Hispanic :weirdo:

sfselesfan
Nov 14th, 2007, 08:26 PM
Best.Blindside.Ever!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QTvl53xhm2c

1:24 in is awesome!

SF

stickwitju(ju)
Nov 14th, 2007, 10:29 PM
Best.Blindside.Ever!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QTvl53xhm2c

1:24 in is awesome!

SF

Best? Ever? Oh come on. You only posted this coz you wanted a piece of Edgardo. Mentiroso.

:p

Scotso
Nov 14th, 2007, 11:41 PM
I want a piece of Edgardo :drool:

Denise4925
Nov 15th, 2007, 12:41 AM
Survivor Fiji is my favorite Survivor ever. The best game strategies, the best comps, the best surprises at TC. Dreamz was really good at playing both sides. I don't think he got or gets enough credit for his good game play and strategy.

Ellery
Nov 15th, 2007, 12:52 AM
Survivor Fiji is my favorite Survivor ever. The best game strategies, the best comps, the best surprises at TC. Dreamz was really good at playing both sides. I don't think he got or gets enough credit for his good game play and strategy.

I liked Dreamz until he tried to convince everyone that he was playing Yau-Man from the very beginning with the truck. I have no problem with him turning on Yau-Man, but just admit that you meant to keep your promise until like 5 minutes before tribal council instead of trying to convince everyone you're some sort of mastermind. Even at the reunion he was BSing around and refused to just answer the damn question. Oh, I was also turned off by the fact that he kept mentioning the fact that he was homeless every 5 seconds or so at the final tribal council.

sfselesfan
Nov 15th, 2007, 01:18 AM
Best? Ever? Oh come on. You only posted this coz you wanted a piece of Edgardo. Mentiroso.

:p

Let's put it this way. I'm a married man...but if that weren't the case, I'd rather have a piece of Edgardo than Courtney. :p And I still enjoyed watching him get owned like that.

It was far from the "best season ever" but Fiji was certainly fun. Yau Man rules!

SF

Ellery
Nov 16th, 2007, 02:10 AM
Great episode, although I missed the first 20 minutes. So what was the argument between Peih-Gee and James about? a

So glad Peih-Gee won immunity, and really liked the fact that Amanda chose to play the challenge, unlike, say, um Todd and James. It's sort of funny that James, who hates challenge throwers, is willing to throw one himself just for burgers :help: Sad. And Frosti rubbing all over Courtney :tape: Although it was sort of funny to see Courtney choosing the food over the challenge when she just had a feast :lol:

Last but not least: Jean-Robert eyerolling through the Tribal Council :rolleyes: :confused: Reminded me of the Raro tribe members from Cook eyerolling their way through tribal councils. Not cool.

Ellery
Nov 16th, 2007, 02:19 AM
Oh and Frosti saying that Courtney is out of his league :confused: Does he have self-esteem issues? :confused: That was really sweet to say, in some way, but sort of disturbing...

iPatty
Nov 16th, 2007, 02:37 AM
Don't let the door hit you on the way out, Frosti. :wavey:

canuckfan
Nov 16th, 2007, 03:16 AM
Too bad for Frosti. He was a nice kid.

Wow, Jean-Robert was able to look like a dumbass in his 10 seconds on screen.

Overall, probably the weakest episode in a while. I was disapointed at the lack of game by PG, Erik and Frosti. It looks like they didn't try to make a move.

Ellery
Nov 16th, 2007, 03:32 AM
Yeah, I am a bit disappointed that Peih-Gee, Erik, Frosti (the next 3 on the chopping block) did not try to team up and convince Courtney or Denise to flip. Peih-Gee did try last week though, to her credit, and Courtney seems to really dislike Peih-Gee, so I am not sure she would flip. As for Denise, she seems too timid to go for a move.

Scotso
Nov 16th, 2007, 04:59 AM
Frosti :sad:

I really liked him, but he played a very poor game. He should have tried harder to build his own alliance rather than latching on to the existing one, knowing that he would have no chance to make it far in that group.

Tennisace
Nov 16th, 2007, 05:16 AM
Frosti made a big flaw. This is the episode where he should have made the move. All he needed to do was team up with Eric and PG and bring along one other person and at minimum that would bring up a tie, which I believe is settled by fire-building. Make sure that Eric/Frosti know how to build a fire and then choose either Todd/Amanda/Courtney/(James) to build a fire. Its not a guarentee that they would win the tie-breaker but its better than just sitting there.

Who is the fourth person? Either Courtney or Denise. Only Courtney due to her romance with Frosti. Denise is the better target preying on her insecurities on the last episode's reward and not being informed of the last TC. Then using this as fodder for the fact that she's ranked No. 5/6 on her tribe behind Todd, Amanda, Courtney, and James. By switching she can get further in the game. You could pad it some more by saying you'll take her to the final 3.

drake3781
Nov 16th, 2007, 05:44 AM
I think everyone who needs to has tried to "make a move". But nobody is budging, nor do they need to. So for Frosti, Erik, and PG, it's either get the II or get one of the other two voted out.

I think Amanda is the one behind the entire tribe solidarity plan, keeping it on track. Won't be surprised to see Amanda do VERY well this season's end game.

I have no respect for anybody choosing food over Immunity; believed safe or not. And ESPECIALLY those who just ate a huge meal: Courtney. :tape:

I was sorry to see Frosti go.

Any ideas what is happening at this thing after TC? From what I can tell the next TC is a normal one, so it is something other than that.

I know enough about next episode to say.... don't miss it!

Tennisace
Nov 16th, 2007, 05:52 AM
The real loser out of this week's episode though is Denise who basically shot herself in the foot to reach the finals. Barring any immunity challenges she wins, she's not going to be able to break the Todd-Amanda duo. What are her options? Courtney who totally gave Todd and Amanda faith to take her further into the game with tonight's vote and James who is sitting on two idols. Neither Courtney or James has a reason to jump ship, leaving Denise just as out in the cold as PG and Eric.

drake3781
Nov 16th, 2007, 06:23 AM
Just listing who is left, in no special order.

Denise
James
Amanda
Todd
Courtney
PG
Erik

Denise4925
Nov 16th, 2007, 08:14 AM
Frosti :sad:

I really liked him, but he played a very poor game. He should have tried harder to build his own alliance rather than latching on to the existing one, knowing that he would have no chance to make it far in that group.

I agree with that. I was thinking the whole time tonight, why team up and be on the outskirts of an existing tribe at the merge? They could have tried to have gotten rid of James or Todd tonight. They could have tried to gather PG, Denise, Erik, Frosti and possibly Courtney, but they didn't even try. He's campaigning against his own original tribe.

Xander
Nov 16th, 2007, 01:00 PM
Yeah, I am a bit disappointed that Peih-Gee, Erik, Frosti (the next 3 on the chopping block) did not try to team up and convince Courtney or Denise to flip. Peih-Gee did try last week though, to her credit, and Courtney seems to really dislike Peih-Gee, so I am not sure she would flip. As for Denise, she seems too timid to go for a move.

I feel bad for Denise but I'm frustrated by her as well. Again, it's really annoying to see people picked for the show who haven't watched it enough to know all the ploys that you could use... Peih-Gee should've tried harder to get into Denise's head!

And why have they not forced James' hand?!

This season looked promising pre-merger but it has fizzled. :mad:

sfselesfan
Nov 16th, 2007, 03:30 PM
I know enough about next episode to say.... don't miss it!

You mean they aren't doing the traditional Thanksgiving (bullshit) recap episode? I figured they were when the preview showed Todd and James more clean shaven and in their old buffs.

SF

Martian KC
Nov 16th, 2007, 04:06 PM
Frosti had no game. Good riddance. All he did was try to coats his way throughout and I have no rspect for that.

Meteor Shower
Nov 16th, 2007, 06:56 PM
I wonder if Erik thought what I thought and decided to tank the challenge.
The moment I saw him up against Frosti and P.G, I thought whoever tanks this one is a genius because it will make the other two threats and put the risk on them.

I know its risky, but think what happened if he won the immunity/were close to it. just keep him safe this round and get him voted out next time. If he comes across weak and somehow earns the trust of Amanda he can sneak into their alliance.

I'm pretty sure he just sucked at it, but it payed off.

Tennisace
Nov 16th, 2007, 08:35 PM
I wonder if Erik thought what I thought and decided to tank the challenge.
The moment I saw him up against Frosti and P.G, I thought whoever tanks this one is a genius because it will make the other two threats and put the risk on them.

I know its risky, but think what happened if he won the immunity/were close to it. just keep him safe this round and get him voted out next time. If he comes across weak and somehow earns the trust of Amanda he can sneak into their alliance.

I'm pretty sure he just sucked at it, but it payed off.

Even without taking this last IC, Frosti > Eric in challenges given his earlier individual win.

Tennisace
Nov 16th, 2007, 08:37 PM
You mean they aren't doing the traditional Thanksgiving (bullshit) recap episode? I figured they were when the preview showed Todd and James more clean shaven and in their old buffs.

SF

Sorry to be the bringer of bad news, but next week is a recap.

http://www.tvguide.com/detail/tv-show.aspx?tvobjectid=289524&more=ucepisodelist&episodeid=7254970

sfselesfan
Nov 16th, 2007, 08:40 PM
Sorry to be the bringer of bad news, but next week is a recap.

http://www.tvguide.com/detail/tv-show.aspx?tvobjectid=289524&more=ucepisodelist&episodeid=7254970

I figured as much. That's why I was shocked at whoever said next week would be exciting.

SF

Denise4925
Nov 16th, 2007, 09:06 PM
I feel bad for Denise but I'm frustrated by her as well. Again, it's really annoying to see people picked for the show who haven't watched it enough to know all the ploys that you could use... Peih-Gee should've tried harder to get into Denise's head!

And why have they not forced James' hand?!

This season looked promising pre-merger but it has fizzled. :mad:

I agree. I think this is one of the poorest seasons with regard to strategy and excitement I've ever seen.

Wannabeknowitall
Nov 16th, 2007, 09:08 PM
I have no respect for anybody choosing food over Immunity; believed safe or not. And ESPECIALLY those who just ate a huge meal: Courtney. :tape:



Well for one thing, the ones that won the reward challenge told the others that they ate chinese cuisine not american food.
So to not go over there and have a chance at things the others have been craving for would look suspicious.

And I really have no issue with Courtney eating. Have you seen her?
She needs another 12 days of eating like that just to look normal.

Denise4925
Nov 16th, 2007, 09:11 PM
Well for one thing, the ones that won the reward challenge told the others that they ate chinese cuisine not american food.
So to not go over there and have a chance at things the others have been craving for would look suspicious.

And I really have no issue with Courtney eating. Have you seen her?
She needs another 12 days of eating like that just to look normal.

I agree, Courtney needs to eat as much as she can.

sfselesfan
Nov 16th, 2007, 09:14 PM
If I knew I was safe, and there were a group of about three other people that I didn't care which one of them went (Frosti, PG, or Erik), I think I'd have scarfed some hamburgers too. Otherwise I compete, win immunity, and then PG goes instead of Frosti...big deal! I'd rather have a hamburger and deal with PG annoying me for another few days.

SF

ChakveChamp08
Nov 16th, 2007, 09:16 PM
This season has been so booooooring....someone needs to grow a pair and overthrow Todd soon...also get rid of james, i cant stand him and the way he acts all high and mighty

Denise4925
Nov 16th, 2007, 09:19 PM
This season has been so booooooring....someone needs to grow a pair and overthrow Todd soon...also get rid of james, i cant stand him and the way he acts all high and mighty

:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:

sfselesfan
Nov 16th, 2007, 09:21 PM
I think it'll have to come down to Todd v. James. Todd has to know he can't beat James in the final. Todd has to be the one to make a move (and they've been hinting at it) because James can sit back and let Todd come to the finals with him and win. I think it's a little f-ed up that James hasn't offered to give Todd one of the idols. That's bad karma.

SF

Wannabeknowitall
Nov 16th, 2007, 09:27 PM
I feel bad for Denise but I'm frustrated by her as well. Again, it's really annoying to see people picked for the show who haven't watched it enough to know all the ploys that you could use... Peih-Gee should've tried harder to get into Denise's head!

And why have they not forced James' hand?!



I feel bad for anyone named Denise. :lol:
I don't think much can be done with Amanda telling the group to stay together every 5 minutes.

And I don't feel I can judge what strategies can be used in the conditions these people are playing in.
You try thinking on hot days and chilly nights on an empty stomach and tell me how that works for you.
They already knew they're fucked with James. He has both immunities and he's the strongest player of all of them. He does most of the work when it comes to food etc.
If they kick him off, Courtney who already looks like she starving will starve. :lol:

Denise4925
Nov 16th, 2007, 09:28 PM
I feel bad for anyone named Denise. :lol:


Why?

Denise4925
Nov 16th, 2007, 09:33 PM
And I don't feel I can judge what strategies can be used in the conditions these people are playing in.
You try thinking on hot days and chilly nights on an empty stomach and tell me how that works for you.
They already knew they're fucked with James. He has both immunities and he's the strongest player of all of them. He does most of the work when it comes to food etc.
If they kick him off, Courtney who already looks like she starving will starve. :lol:

Oh, and btw you're talking out of your ass again. It's a game and many have done it before them in worse conditions. :rolleyes: How exactly are they fucked with James? There are many ways to get to James. First of all, he's cocky, overly confident about his position and stupid. Kind of like you, so I can see how you identify with him so much. I'm sure if James gets kicked off, their survivor mode will kick in and no one will starve. :rolleyes:

See, I told you not to start with me.

Ellery
Nov 16th, 2007, 09:44 PM
If they were to blindside James this episode, they probably could have done it. Did he even bring an immunity idol to tribal council? James is now as smug as Todd and both are insufferable. I know Todd thinks he is some mastermind, but if he was thinking that far ahead, getting James out of the game should be a priority. And I still don`t understand why he randomly decided to boot Jean-Robert last time. Whatever. Go Amanda!

Scotso
Nov 16th, 2007, 09:46 PM
I'm amazed so many people think James will make the finals. He's just not smart enough.

Amanda has become my favorite. Her playing the IC sealed it for me. She plays the game well, she doesn't order people around or talk about people behind their backs, and she gives it everything she has. She's probably the safest person in the game right now, but she doesn't let it go to her head.

Denise4925
Nov 16th, 2007, 09:47 PM
If they were to blindside James this episode, they probably could have done it. Did he even bring an immunity idol to tribal council? James is now as smug as Todd and both are insufferable. I know Todd thinks he is some mastermind, but if he was thinking that far ahead, getting James out of the game should be a priority. And I still don`t understand why he randomly decided to boot Jean-Robert last time. Whatever. Go Amanda!

:worship: :worship: :worship: Todd is an amatuer. He'd be devoured by past players. He's just playing with a bunch of retards, except for Amanda. I think she's the most savvy.

Denise4925
Nov 16th, 2007, 09:49 PM
I'm amazed so many people think James will make the finals. He's just not smart enough.



Right??!!

Ellery
Nov 16th, 2007, 10:02 PM
I'm amazed so many people think James will make the finals. He's just not smart enough.

Amanda has become my favorite. Her playing the IC sealed it for me. She plays the game well, she doesn't order people around or talk about people behind their backs, and she gives it everything she has. She's probably the safest person in the game right now, but she doesn't let it go to her head.

About James, there are 4 TC's left where he can use his idol, so if he can win 2 of the next 4 challenges, and plays an idol whenever he doesn't win, then he should be guaranteed a spot in the finals. Of course, that's assuming that he does play the idol when he doesn't win immunity, and that the next few immunity challenges test brawn and not balance/brains. Overall, though, I still feel that he has a good chance of making the finals.

Xander
Nov 16th, 2007, 10:03 PM
I feel bad for anyone named Denise. :lol:
I don't think much can be done with Amanda telling the group to stay together every 5 minutes.

Actually, Peih-Gee, Erik, Frosti and Denise could've targetted Amanda & Todd, in the hopes of squelching their transparent alliance.

And I don't feel I can judge what strategies can be used in the conditions these people are playing in.

Why can't you? Are you a new Survivor viewer? That's the only reason I can think of as to why you would say that.

You try thinking on hot days and chilly nights on an empty stomach and tell me how that works for you.

Tina Wesson did just that on the only season that went 42 days, blindsiding the scheming Jerri Manthey in the process AND initially she was deemed as useless as this season's Denise. I could understand if this was the first edition and no precedence had been set but China is the 14th go-around. The people auditioning SHOULD know exactly how to play the game by now. If they don't, they shouldn't bother trying out for the show.

They already knew they're fucked with James. He has both immunities and he's the strongest player of all of them. He does most of the work when it comes to food etc. If they kick him off, Courtney who already looks like she starving will starve. :lol:

Well, you pick away at James' confidence by voting for him. In other words, they need to get him to play those II's or barter with him to get him to surrender one of them. It may take a few TC's but with some tenacity, he could be sent packing.

Xander
Nov 16th, 2007, 10:07 PM
This season has been so booooooring....someone needs to grow a pair and overthrow Todd soon...also get rid of james, i cant stand him and the way he acts all high and mighty

Overthrow indeed! And it isn't like a coup is a foreign concept on Survivor. It HAS been done before. A few times! If Peih-Gee had a like-minded ally, they could orchestrate taking Todd down.

sfselesfan
Nov 16th, 2007, 10:09 PM
I'm amazed so many people think James will make the finals. He's just not smart enough.

Amanda has become my favorite. Her playing the IC sealed it for me. She plays the game well, she doesn't order people around or talk about people behind their backs, and she gives it everything she has. She's probably the safest person in the game right now, but she doesn't let it go to her head.

When I said it'll come down to Todd v. James, I didn't mean that James would necessarily make the finals. I think it'll come down to Todd taking James out, or otherwise James will make the final. No one else seems to have the wherewithall to do it.

SF

Xander
Nov 16th, 2007, 10:17 PM
:worship: :worship: :worship: Todd is an amatuer. He'd be devoured by past players. He's just playing with a bunch of retards, except for Amanda. I think she's the most savvy.

Amanda really is and the editing is making sure we know that. Todd had the right idea for awhile and then fell off completely when he cut loose someone that they all could beat in the final (*sneeze* Jean-Robert). :rolleyes:

drake3781
Nov 16th, 2007, 10:33 PM
I figured as much. That's why I was shocked at whoever said next week would be exciting.

SF

Next episode.

canuckfan
Nov 16th, 2007, 10:37 PM
The people auditioning SHOULD know exactly how to play the game by now. If they don't, they shouldn't bother trying out for the show.



A lot of these people are aspiring actors or models and get recruited in night clubs in LA or even on MySpace. So some of them have no idea what they're getting into. It explains why some contestant have no idea how to play. I mean, after 14 seasons, why are some of them still bossy and lazy in the first few days? The first eliminated is always the bossy person, or the old person, or the lazy anorexic girl. Go figure...

The recipe to go far is simple:

Pre-merge: Work hard! Don't be bossy! Be strong in the challenges, but not too strong. Be nice with everyone, even the people you don't like. Try to make 3-4 close friends to make sure you don't get voted out. Don't make it obvious you have an alliance. Try to include everyone.

After the merge: Vote the other tribe one by one. If someone from your tribe could jump ship, vote him off if you have the numbers. Throw all the reward challenges to make it looks like you're not a challenge powerhouse. If you win one and you have to bring people with you for a feast or something, bring some of your enemis to make sure they don't plot while you're not at camp. Never sit out of a challenge to eat! Never be cocky with your alliance. Bring 2 goats to the final 3.

Final tribal council: Be honest. Don't try to kiss the ass of the jury. Tell everyone: "sorry I hurt your feelings, I didn't want to, but there's a reason I'm sitting here and you're not". Counvice the jury you were in charge all this time.

So simple! ;)

But I'm sure it's not that simple while you're there, especially with the twists. Aaron is a good exemple of someone who played well but got screwed anyway. Right Now, Amanda is the one following the recipe.

No Name Face
Nov 17th, 2007, 02:31 AM
Tina was the best survivor ever, even better than Hatch.
She played a flawless game.

I think this episode is great. Not better than Fiji, but damn good.

When they showed a lot of Erik this past episode, I thought of Scotso :lol:
He's not bad, but he's not playing the game well enough.

If I was deciding, here'd be the order:

7. PG
6. Erik
5. Denise
4. Courtney
3. Todd
2. Amanda
1. James

Scotso
Nov 17th, 2007, 04:58 AM
When they showed a lot of Erik this past episode, I thought of Scotso :lol:

;) I quite enjoyed that episode, except for the very end. And to be honest (and only slightly biased), I think he's playing the best game he really can. He has very little going for him in this game, he was just in the wrong tribe. But I think it's clear that he's not completely useless at strategy seeing as how he managed to get Frosti to go before. He used what seems like his greatest asset (his looks :drool: ) to his benefit. It really seems like he charmed Amanda, who appears to be the one who really makes the decisions.

Scotso
Nov 17th, 2007, 05:03 AM
If I was deciding, here'd be the order:

7. PG
6. Erik
5. Denise
4. Courtney
3. Todd
2. Amanda
1. James

Since I can never resist an election, here's mine:

7) James
6) PG
5) Todd
4) Denise
3) Courtney
2) Erik
1) Amanda

juki
Nov 17th, 2007, 05:11 AM
Amanda reminds me of Maggie who won BB6. They both spent a lot of time trying to keep their alliances together, and making decision while not coming off as a threat at all. I really can't see how Amanda won't get to the final three, since Todd would be the first target in any coup attempts at their alliance, and besides they all seem to dumb to overthrow them anyway. I also think she would have the votes in the end because she gets along well with everyone.

Scotso
Nov 17th, 2007, 05:39 AM
Amanda reminds me of Maggie who won BB6.

Except that Amanda is not an ugly, annoying, self-righteous bitch. :p

juki
Nov 17th, 2007, 05:52 AM
Except that Amanda is not an ugly, annoying, self-righteous bitch. :p

:lol: I remember her being nicknamed Maggot

I'm talking purely gameplay. Amanda seems really nice and down to earth (for a pageant girl).

KoOlMaNsEaN
Nov 17th, 2007, 08:55 PM
I noticed Amanda too and thought she's getting Todd to do all the dirty work so she can look great in the end.

Oneofakind0490
Nov 17th, 2007, 08:57 PM
Good episode. First episode for me in about 2 weeks. This is the best season in forever. Good quality by most of the players.

I dont see how Fiji is a good season either:unsure:

Denise4925
Nov 17th, 2007, 11:53 PM
Good episode. First episode for me in about 2 weeks. This is the best season in forever. Good quality by most of the players.

I dont see how Fiji is a good season either:unsure:

I guess it all depends on tastes. :shrug: What, in your opinion, makes this the "best season in forever"? What are some of the "good quality" plays by most of the players? Why was Fiji not a good season for you?

No Name Face
Nov 18th, 2007, 04:04 AM
;) I quite enjoyed that episode, except for the very end. And to be honest (and only slightly biased), I think he's playing the best game he really can. He has very little going for him in this game, he was just in the wrong tribe. But I think it's clear that he's not completely useless at strategy seeing as how he managed to get Frosti to go before. He used what seems like his greatest asset (his looks :drool: ) to his benefit. It really seems like he charmed Amanda, who appears to be the one who really makes the decisions.

I got that vibe too, but Amanda and company liked Frosti too and he WAS the bigger threat in challenges/immunities, so that was probably the bigger factor.

Frosti played a dumb game IMO and he did deserve to leave...he should have made a power move with his old tribe.

Scotso
Nov 18th, 2007, 04:37 AM
I think if Erik, PG, and Frosti told Denise that they would pull her into their group and promised to consult her on every decision they could have convinced her to turn. She was definitely feeling vulnerable. It would have been fun to see that happen. This season has been too predictable.

Ellery
Nov 18th, 2007, 03:02 PM
When Peih-Gee tried to flip Denise two episodes ago, Denise basically said no, she would rather stay with the original Fei Long alliance. I dunno if Peih-Gee tried again last episode, but Denise seems to be content with being the lowest rung of the Fei Long ladder.

Ryan
Nov 18th, 2007, 03:23 PM
I missed this episode, but it sounds sort of straightforward - I cant wait to watch it! Im glad Amanda is getting more recognition for being the smarts of their alliance, I've liked her all along (hot and down to earth, a rarity on Survivor!) and I think she's in a good position. PG and Erik's only shot now is to try and convince Todd and Amanda to oust James, they should know by now that James had both II's and is a huge target to everyone - if they can get him voted out it eliminates the idols and gives them a better chance the next episode to make Courtney/Denise switch sides. If I was Todd or Amanda I'd get rid of PG next week and THEN blindside James - if you eliminte him in the F7 then you give up the big chance of having your peons (C/D) switch on you. If you eliminate the biggest troublemaker in PG and then get rid of James in F6 or even F5, then you can convince courtney or denise OR Erik that you will take them to the final 3.

No Name Face
Nov 18th, 2007, 11:38 PM
Amanda is hot???
It's not that she's fug, she's just really plain to me. Like she's definitely a girl I would like for her personality and then realize that she's really pretty.

Just kind of a random thought...

She is the best looking girl left though, but her competition is...well...thin.

IceHock
Nov 18th, 2007, 11:42 PM
I really want Todd to go, he reminds me of a little bit nicer johnny fairplay

Scotso
Nov 19th, 2007, 12:51 AM
Amanda is hot???
It's not that she's fug, she's just really plain to me. Like she's definitely a girl I would like for her personality and then realize that she's really pretty.

Just kind of a random thought...

She is the best looking girl left though, but her competition is...well...thin.

I think she's hot.

juki
Nov 19th, 2007, 01:19 AM
Amanda from her pageant days. It's annoying that they blur her ass in every shot.

http://www.nhalamphim.com/cast8/images876813_my.jpg

Ryan
Nov 19th, 2007, 01:19 AM
As a straight guy, I think she's hot. Survivor makes everyone less-hot then they really are, and I think she's still pretty.

Ryan
Nov 19th, 2007, 01:20 AM
Oh, and I'll add a hubba hubba for the above photo. :worship:

No Name Face
Nov 19th, 2007, 02:02 AM
wow @ that pic.
maybe i was wrong.
her body is amazing, her face is kinda average.

Ellery
Nov 19th, 2007, 02:02 AM
Amanda, Jaime, Peih-Gee are all very attractive. Courtney, not so much :p although her modelling pics are decent.

Scotso
Nov 19th, 2007, 04:24 AM
I didn't think Jaime was very pretty. :shrug: Courtney is, though.

And I think Amanda has a VERY nice face. It's not the normal "hot," which makes it even better for me.

Ryan
Nov 19th, 2007, 12:44 PM
I think Jaime has a weird face, really wide with a bad overbite. Courtney :barf: Id rather have sex with a broom, or a rake, or a toothpick because they all have more meat on their bones than her. :tape:

sfselesfan
Nov 21st, 2007, 07:36 AM
Best gif ever.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/vanslyker/MK15FrostiAndCourtney.gif

SF

rockstar
Nov 21st, 2007, 10:25 AM
:lol:

Ryan
Nov 21st, 2007, 02:44 PM
That's awesome. Wow. Just, wow haha.

Ellery
Nov 21st, 2007, 02:58 PM
:haha: Awesome.

Scotso
Nov 21st, 2007, 03:10 PM
:haha:

juki
Nov 21st, 2007, 03:21 PM
:lol:

Ryan
Nov 23rd, 2007, 03:51 PM
The recap episode wasnt bad, got to see people in another light and some interesting conversations (especially the Amanda/Frosti/Todd blackmail thing haha!). I think next week they'll be voting someone back in who was booted before the jury, which is why they did the recap show now - not REALLY that close to the end, and gives people a chance to remember who everyone voted out is.

Amanda is clearly turning on Todd, or the preview wants us to think that anyway. If someone is voted back in she'd need 4 votes to secure Todd going, which I think is a bit of a stretch. I'd wait til the final 6 where you just need three votes and there's less chance of it biting you in the ass. I hope she pulls it off though because she's really hot and smart. :p I wouldn't be surprised if she can pull in PG, Erik, Courtney, maybe James? and leaves Todd/Denise/returned castaway out of the loop. Or it'll be all show and Amanda will be setting Todd up to go next week.

Scotso
Nov 23rd, 2007, 04:03 PM
Yeah, I liked that the recap showed a lot of new footage.

Meesh
Nov 23rd, 2007, 08:09 PM
Glad I saw the recap show, I don't remember Erik being a leader and it was funning watching him gathering everyone (w/ his suit jacket on) and telling them... "I quit as a leader" in one breath and then gives out chores in the next breath. :lol:
-- :eek: @ previews showing Amanda going against Todd... but Todd has been wishy washy lately... and paranoid!

Scotso
Nov 23rd, 2007, 10:02 PM
That was Aaron, not Erik.

No Name Face
Nov 23rd, 2007, 10:50 PM
Best gif ever.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/vanslyker/MK15FrostiAndCourtney.gif

SF

*deaths*

:rolls:

Ellery
Nov 23rd, 2007, 11:40 PM
I only watched part of the recap episode, and all I can say is that with every episode shown James seems to be a bigger jerk. :rolleyes:

Ryan
Nov 24th, 2007, 12:11 AM
Yeah I dont like James much anymore either. The only reason he's made it this far is because Todd handed him two freakin immunity idols - if people knew he didnt have them I think he would have been voted out earlier.

Drake1980
Nov 24th, 2007, 12:13 AM
OMG, I couldn`t believe it was a recap show. It was still kinda good though:lol: I really like evryone left except for maybe PeiGeigh. It`s so obvious Eric is gone next and maybe even right at the beginning of the episode.

Denise4925
Nov 26th, 2007, 07:35 PM
I only watched part of the recap episode, and all I can say is that with every episode shown James seems to be a bigger jerk. :rolleyes:

I told ya. :shrug:

sfselesfan
Nov 26th, 2007, 09:27 PM
The recap episode wasnt bad, got to see people in another light and some interesting conversations (especially the Amanda/Frosti/Todd blackmail thing haha!). I think next week they'll be voting someone back in who was booted before the jury, which is why they did the recap show now - not REALLY that close to the end, and gives people a chance to remember who everyone voted out is.

Amanda is clearly turning on Todd, or the preview wants us to think that anyway. If someone is voted back in she'd need 4 votes to secure Todd going, which I think is a bit of a stretch. I'd wait til the final 6 where you just need three votes and there's less chance of it biting you in the ass. I hope she pulls it off though because she's really hot and smart. :p I wouldn't be surprised if she can pull in PG, Erik, Courtney, maybe James? and leaves Todd/Denise/returned castaway out of the loop. Or it'll be all show and Amanda will be setting Todd up to go next week.

I didn't get that impression at all. I had the feeling she was getting on PG's good side to recruit her because the rest of her tribe (Courtney, James, Denise) seem unstable and will likely line up against her and Todd. It makes sense now for Amanda and Todd to consider aligning with the Zhan Hu members to insulate themselves from the powerhouse that is JAMES. They have to be super sneaky about it though because Courtney and Denise don't seem to keep secrets.

Erik, PG, Amanda and Todd vote James.

James, Courtney and Denise vote PG or Erik.

James blindsided.

SF

Denise4925
Nov 26th, 2007, 09:47 PM
I didn't get that impression at all. I had the feeling she was getting on PG's good side to recruit her because the rest of her tribe (Courtney, James, Denise) seem unstable and will likely line up against her and Todd. It makes sense now for Amanda and Todd to consider aligning with the Zhan Hu members to insulate themselves from the powerhouse that is JAMES. They have to be super sneaky about it though because Courtney and Denise don't seem to keep secrets.

Erik, PG, Amanda and Todd vote James.

James, Courtney and Denise vote PG or Erik.

James blindsided.

SF

In the words of James, "please let that happen". :drool: :lol:

IceHock
Nov 26th, 2007, 10:40 PM
Yeah can't stand James. i can't believe they gave him both idols. they should try and steal them, can you do that? Does anyone know?

sfselesfan
Nov 26th, 2007, 10:50 PM
In the words of James, "please let that happen". :drool: :lol:

It would be a karmic lesson for James. He should have offered to give Todd one of the idols.

SF

Denise4925
Nov 26th, 2007, 11:31 PM
Yeah can't stand James. i can't believe they gave him both idols. they should try and steal them, can you do that? Does anyone know?

No, I don't think they can steal them. I read something about that somewhere.

Denise4925
Nov 26th, 2007, 11:32 PM
It would be a karmic lesson for James. He should have offered to give Todd one of the idols.

SF

Actually I couldn't care less if he gave one to Todd or not, as I cannot stand Todd either. But, I want to see James blindsided with his cocky ass. :rolleyes:

sfselesfan
Nov 26th, 2007, 11:36 PM
^ ^ I never said I liked Todd (I'm a bitchy Courtney fan). Nevertheless, I would think more highly of James if he'd had the sense to offer an idol to the person who was instrumental in him finding them.

SF

Denise4925
Nov 26th, 2007, 11:52 PM
^ ^ I never said I liked Todd (I'm a bitchy Courtney fan). Nevertheless, I would think more highly of James if he'd had the sense to offer an idol to the person who was instrumental in him finding them.

SF

:lol: Okay, let that be the reason why he should get blindsided. :p

sfselesfan
Nov 27th, 2007, 12:59 AM
^ ^ We'll agree to call it one of many reasons why he should get blindsided. I also don't appreciate his sexist comments in general, and especially about my bitchy girl Courtney.

LEAVE COURNEY ALONE!!! SHE'S A HUMAN BEING!

SF

rockstar
Nov 27th, 2007, 02:47 AM
yeah, james seemed so innocent in the beginning when he was portrayed as someone who sucked at socializing, now he's just a cocky jerk.

No Name Face
Nov 27th, 2007, 04:41 AM
James is alright, he's a little condescending, but most people would be with two immunity idols. We are quick to say he's not playing a smart game, but he's got two idols.

I am rooting more for Todd though, he's trying so hard. I like him.
While I want James or Todd to win the whole thing, oddly enough there's no one I wouldn't want to win. I like the people a lot, what can I say?

That being said, I'd be really shocked if James made the final four. If these people aren't complete MORONS, they're going to blindside him either this week or next week

Scotso
Nov 27th, 2007, 11:01 PM
James is alright, he's a little condescending, but most people would be with two immunity idols. We are quick to say he's not playing a smart game, but he's got two idols.

Because they gave him one and told him where to find the other one.

No Name Face
Nov 28th, 2007, 12:59 AM
Because they gave him one and told him where to find the other one.

And who is dumb for giving him that information?

sfselesfan
Nov 28th, 2007, 01:03 AM
And who is dumb for giving him that information?

Your favorite player.

I too think James is playing a dumb game. Too many fights with the people who (1) vote to remove players from the game and (2) make up the jury if you get that far.

SF

No Name Face
Nov 28th, 2007, 01:21 AM
Your favorite player.

I too think James is playing a dumb game. Too many fights with the people who (1) vote to remove players from the game and (2) make up the jury if you get that far.

SF

Exactly.
Todd is smart, but he's no genius. And to me, he's playing a more flawed game than James.

James is doing what he does. He was never going to win the sympathy/strategy (outwit) vote, he's going for the tough in challenges/hard-worker (outplay, outlast) vote.

Scotso
Nov 28th, 2007, 05:41 AM
And who is dumb for giving him that information?

So the fact that an idiot gave him something means James is playing a good game?

And what's with all this talk that James has been tough in challenges? I haven't seen it.

FLL
Nov 30th, 2007, 02:01 AM
OMG! Fantastic episode... James was so fucking dumb! Played such a stupid game.. He is strong as hell, had two immunity idols and was in charge of everything.. Way to put a target on yourself!!!

Honnestly, I wouldn't mind seeing any of the final 6 win the game. I think it's the first time in history that I don't have a clear favourite :eek: I like them all!

Ellery
Nov 30th, 2007, 02:04 AM
Buh bye James. Dumbass.

That was 100 times more laughable than Jaime playing the fake idol with her back against the wall.

canuckfan
Nov 30th, 2007, 02:06 AM
That was just beautiful!

One of the great moves in Survivor history.

Great final 6. I like everyone of them.

Tennisace
Nov 30th, 2007, 02:16 AM
I think P.G. made a mistake by not telling James of the impending coup. They could have knocked out Todd or anyone on the other team and then it would be an even 3-3 with James, PG, and Erik on one side. Telling James would have earned his trust, but now PG and Erik are in no better of a situation (although it looks like Amanda is working it next episode).

James should have played it regardless of what he felt. Counting this episode there are only three times where he can play it. Did he really think he could waltz all the way to the final 4 without anyone feeling resentment?

Tennisace
Nov 30th, 2007, 02:18 AM
You do have to give some credit to James for answering all those questions right in the reward challenge. I didn't know he had it in him.

Ellery
Nov 30th, 2007, 02:18 AM
I think James just hates Peih Gee, period. And he doesn't seem to be particularly bright, so I am not sure he would listen to her.

Ryan
Nov 30th, 2007, 02:28 AM
Wicked episode. Give credit to James for being extremely rational and nice during the end there, he was blindsided and didnt act like a whiny bitch. He played a good game, but got a little too complacent and trusting.

Amanda IMO should keep Todd for one more vote - if PG and Erik are both around for the final 5 then they wont hesitate to cut her out. If they get rid of Erik or PG, make final 5, then get rid of Todd you have a final 4 where IMO only two have a shot of winning: Erik/PG or Amanda. Courtney and Denise, unless they pull out something BIG, have no hope of winning. They dont make big plays, and they're not even that likable.

Zombielicious
Nov 30th, 2007, 02:42 AM
Damn. James is gone!!

I don't really like anyone in the remaining survivors except for Denise. :)

Ellery
Nov 30th, 2007, 02:46 AM
I wonder why Erik didn't vote Todd though, along with Peih-Gee. This way, had James played the idol, then whiny Todd would have been cut out of the game. That would have been almost as satisfying.

canuckfan
Nov 30th, 2007, 02:50 AM
I wonder why Erik didn't vote Todd though, along with Peih-Gee. This way, had James played the idol, then whiny Todd would have been cut out of the game. That would have been almost as satisfying.

Erik still want to kiss the ass of the majority. If PG was voted out, he still could have said "He guys look, I voted with you! Can I finally be your friend, pleeeeease!". :rolleyes:

Erik's a nice guy but he doesn't have one strategic bone in his body.

Ellery
Nov 30th, 2007, 02:53 AM
I wonder though, in the case of the tie (had James played an idol), would there have been a revote, or would there be a fire starting challenge between Todd and Peih-Gee?

No Name Face
Nov 30th, 2007, 04:00 AM
stupid james. can't you only use the hidden immunity till the final four? he should have used it just because. he's always a threat to win individual immunity...he should have just played the odds. it's a lot better competing for an individual immunity at 5 than at 7.

dumb move, he really should have seen it coming.

kudos to amanda. i didn't think she was the brains behind todd but i was totally wrong.

i'm continually loving courtney and denise.

and as always i like todd and now am liking erik a lot.

what a great final 6. i don't even really have a favorite anymore, everyone is generally likeable and overall cool people. i think amanda's playing the best game, i like aspects of todd/denise/erik/courtney's respective personalities and pg is a little fighter. i totally respect her hustle. i'm really impressed with this season and think they all would be legitimate winners (yes, even courtney...she's been really good in challenges so far).

Mrs. Peel
Nov 30th, 2007, 04:25 AM
That was one of the best rewards ever. The Shaolin Monks were amazing! I was so happy for Denise!

Erik is sooooooo damn fine :drool: :drool:

G1Player2
Nov 30th, 2007, 04:33 AM
:lol: Take that James!!! What a :weirdo: That will go down as one of the dumbest moves in Survivor history re: not using the idol. However, it might not be all his fault because I think Todd and Amanda did an excellent job at convincing James that he was completely safe, but in his post boot comments, he mentioned that he felt something was up. :weirdo:

Anyway, he felt he was too ethical for this game and he wasn't flexible at all. Tied himself to one alliance and tried to ride it to the end. I certainly won't miss him. Good riddance.

Anyway, why didn't Todd let James know about the potential plan. :scratch: PG probably wouldn't have been able to get away with it because she is so desperate and James doesn't trust her anyway, and then Amanda could have played damage control and everyone could have just taken out PG, but Todd had immunity, thus nothing to worry about, so I wonder why he went with such a reactive plan instead of being proactive and warning James because I think he has more leeway(sp?) with James than PG.

drake3781
Nov 30th, 2007, 04:40 AM
A lot of armchair quarterbacks here :rolleyes: .

These people are not dumb. They have certainly tried the things you think they should have, and have considered the others.

You talk as if every option is available to them, if only they had thought of them, but only you are smart enough to have thought of them. :rolleyes:

G1Player2
Nov 30th, 2007, 04:52 AM
I think P.G. made a mistake by not telling James of the impending coup. They could have knocked out Todd or anyone on the other team and then it would be an even 3-3 with James, PG, and Erik on one side. Telling James would have earned his trust, but now PG and Erik are in no better of a situation (although it looks like Amanda is working it next episode).

James should have played it regardless of what he felt. Counting this episode there are only three times where he can play it. Did he really think he could waltz all the way to the final 4 without anyone feeling resentment?

I thought the same thing but PG probably would have been gone because James never really trusted the obvious desperation and dealing form PG so he might have made everyone in his alliance aware of what PG was doing and they would have all ditched the plan because of paranoia and booted her instead.

No Name Face
Nov 30th, 2007, 04:59 AM
A lot of armchair quarterbacks here :rolleyes: .

These people are not dumb. They have certainly tried the things you think they should have, and have considered the others.

You talk as if every option is available to them, if only they had thought of them, but only you are smart enough to have thought of them. :rolleyes:

actually NOT playing the idol was dumb here. he could have played one at the 6 vote and one at the 5 vote and then guaranteed a spot in the final 4. he should have known that if there was a time to blindside him, it'd be at lucky number 7.

it was a dumb move and it's really sad that the person with not one but two hidden immunity idols got kicked out in 7th place.

Ellery
Nov 30th, 2007, 05:50 AM
I really like Amanda, but thinking that Shanghai is China´s capital? :help: X 1000 :tape: especially given that she'd been to China before.

Scotso
Nov 30th, 2007, 06:47 AM
Erik still want to kiss the ass of the majority. If PG was voted out, he still could have said "He guys look, I voted with you! Can I finally be your friend, pleeeeease!". :rolleyes:

Erik's a nice guy but he doesn't have one strategic bone in his body.

If Erik wants to make the final 3, he can't afford to piss off Amanda.

Scotso
Nov 30th, 2007, 06:48 AM
I think James just hates Peih Gee, period. And he doesn't seem to be particularly bright, so I am not sure he would listen to her.

Indeed. He really hated her, but I have a feeling he feels that way towards most women. It's kind of obvious by the fact that he actually calls her "woman."

Wicked episode. Give credit to James for being extremely rational and nice during the end there, he was blindsided and didnt act like a whiny bitch.

Agreed, credit to him for taking it like a man and not being bitter and bitchy about it. I expected him to be rather snotty, but I was wrong. Good for him.

Erik is sooooooo damn fine :drool: :drool:

Amen. :hearts: :drool: :lick: :hearts:

doni1212
Nov 30th, 2007, 07:42 AM
This episode made me soooo mad. I hate sneaky people, and I'm glad that all the people they've wronged will be on the jury.

FLL
Nov 30th, 2007, 09:11 AM
This episode made me soooo mad. I hate sneaky people, and I'm glad that all the people they've wronged will be on the jury.

What were you expecting? You were not watching Nanny 911.. This is Survivor :lol:

Ellery
Nov 30th, 2007, 12:55 PM
This episode made me soooo mad. I hate sneaky people, and I'm glad that all the people they've wronged will be on the jury.

This is Survivor :drool: :shrug: I think this could be my second favorite episode of all time (nothing beats the Edgardo blindside). And in James´s case, I thought Jeff was dropping hints at him the whole time, and even Denise sort of hinted at the potential blindside. Too bad he couldn´t pick up on it.:help:

eck
Nov 30th, 2007, 02:39 PM
James :lol: Awful. Bad player all around. Brawns but no brains.


Anyone heard news about All Stars 2 :hearts:

No Name Face
Nov 30th, 2007, 03:24 PM
This is Survivor :drool: :shrug: I think this could be my second favorite episode of all time (nothing beats the Edgardo blindside). And in James´s case, I thought Jeff was dropping hints at him the whole time, and even Denise sort of hinted at the potential blindside. Too bad he couldn´t pick up on it. :help:

i agree, maybe it was the editing though

btw - amanda needs to cover her shit up. her ass is always blurred :o

rockstar
Nov 30th, 2007, 04:07 PM
james looked dumber than jaime for having two idols but got voted off when at least jaime tried to save her ass. who's laughing now? :haha:

KoOlMaNsEaN
Nov 30th, 2007, 04:14 PM
It was the right move get the two idols out of the way while you can + not risking the chance he can go on an immunity idol run like we've seen in past seasons

Ryan
Nov 30th, 2007, 04:18 PM
To be fair to James, he had no reason NOT to believe Todd and Amanda - they did a great job of covering the blindside up, much better than in most seasons. I loved how Amanda put PG in her place - "you think im stupid PG?" :lol: PG looked like an eager-eyed 5 year old being given the chance to steal cookies! She did a good job of not overplaying her going home though, good "acting" I think.

Yeah they definitely edited TC heavily to make it look like Jeff was giving him hints, James was moving, eyes shifting everywhere hahaha.

Ellery
Nov 30th, 2007, 05:11 PM
I am not sure it was editing though. Jeff´s great love for James has been obvious from the beginning and to me, there is no doubt he is very partial to him. Maybe Jeff can now date him? ;) Oops, Julie won't be happy.

Renee
Nov 30th, 2007, 06:09 PM
I liked James but it certainly was a dumb move to wait any longer to use the immunity idol.

Jeff isn't partial to James or any other survivor. He is always 'hinting' in Tribal Council. He does this every single season of Survivor. It makes for good TV, to start shit between the survivors.

Renee
Nov 30th, 2007, 06:16 PM
A lot of armchair quarterbacks here :rolleyes: .

These people are not dumb. They have certainly tried the things you think they should have, and have considered the others.

You talk as if every option is available to them, if only they had thought of them, but only you are smart enough to have thought of them. :rolleyes:


You are so nasty......

-VSR-
Nov 30th, 2007, 06:20 PM
I'm pissed that James went home. He was my favorite. Todd needs an ass kicking, I don't like him at all.

Ellery
Nov 30th, 2007, 08:57 PM
:haha: at Jeff: the opposite of trust is... not trust! :weirdo: Brilliant.

Denise4925
Nov 30th, 2007, 09:07 PM
:haha: at Jeff: the opposite of trust is... not trust! :weirdo: Brilliant.

:haha: I'm so glad they got James that way. He's sooooooooooooooooooooooooo dumb. He totally could have used one idol now, and if he didn't win the III, then he could have used it at the next one. But, he did answer all of those questions on China except for the last one, so I was impressed with that. Anyway, even if Erik or PG had told James about the blindside, he wouldn't have believed them. :rolleyes: And, the plan would have backfired. Erik was stupid though for not voting for Todd. What difference would it have made if he had, he's still on the outs with the majority. :rolleyes: I hate how Todd and Amanda are controlling this game though. The only one with guts is PG and she has alienated everyone. Neither Erik nor Denise have one strategic bone in both their bodies put together and Courtney is flying under the radar and riding Amanda and Todd's coattails.

G1Player2
Nov 30th, 2007, 09:19 PM
:haha: I'm so glad they got James that way. He's sooooooooooooooooooooooooo dumb. But, he did answer all of those questions on China except for the last one, so I was impressed with that. Anyway, even if Erik or PG had told James about the blindside, he wouldn't have believed them. :rolleyes: And, the plan would have backfired. Erik was stupid though for not voting for Todd. What difference would it have made if he had, he's still on the outs with the majority. :rolleyes: I hate how Todd and Amanda are controlling this game though. The only one with guts is PG and she has alienated everyone. Neither Erik nor Denise have one strategic bone in both their bodies put together and Courtney is flying under the radar and riding Amanda and Todd's coattails.

I couldn't agree more. But, what gets me, is that Erik is such a retarded player that, why when Jeff asked if anyone wanted to use the idol, right after the votes were cast and before they were read, didn't Erik speak up and tell James that he better use the idol or his ass is going home? I am sure PG would have chimed in and she could have reiterated Erik's assertions with the discussion Amanda had with her during the day. Erik had nothing to lose. The votes had been cast, he had immunity, and he could have gained an ally in James. :weirdo:

Denise is awful. (not you :hearts: The idiot with the 80's mullet :rolleyes:) She is basically handing the game to Todd and Amanda like you said. I think she is just glad to still be there honestly. Same with Courtney. But I agree, if Erik and PG had immiediately gone to James before TC, he would have brushed them off, relayed all the info to Todd and Amanda, Amanda would have played damage control, and then PG would be gone almost unanimously.
The best time, like I said, would have been for them to let James know what was going on right after Jeff asked if anyone wanted to use the idol.

James, James, James. Not 1 IDOL. But 2. I think he is going to have nightmares for a long time after this. I don't think I could ever get over being such an idiot like that. :lol:

G1Player2
Nov 30th, 2007, 09:27 PM
SPOILER WARNING. Has nothing to do with Survivor China though, but next season. ATTENTION: SPOILER WARNING for next season of Survivor.









:wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey:































James and Amanda are reportedly on the next Survivor edition which will be Survivor newbies vs. veterans. So it's like half former castaways and new ones. Others rumored to be on are Eliza, Jonny Fairplay, Parvati, Cirie, Yau-Man, Ozzy and Jonathan from Cook Islands season.

















:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

FLL
Nov 30th, 2007, 09:45 PM
That's a nice concept instead of doing a All-Stars II...

I have a question.. Could someone have stolen the immunity idols? Like when Jaime looked in James' bag or when PG saw it in the shelter... I wouldn't think about it for long :lol: I would put it in my bag... Hide it well or I'll take it away from you!

Denise4925
Nov 30th, 2007, 10:45 PM
I don't think you can take from someone once they have it.

IceHock
Nov 30th, 2007, 11:00 PM
God James is dumb, if he would have though there was only 7 of them left at the time and you can't use the idols past the final 4 and he would have had a good chance at winning one of the next 2 challenges, so if he just played it he basicly makes the final 4 the tardo, i'm loving him making the comment about Jamie playing a fake immunity idol when he actually he had the real ones and din't play them and still loses!! it cracks me up everytime.

FLL
Nov 30th, 2007, 11:02 PM
I don't think you can take from someone once they have it.

Is that a rule?

Denise4925
Nov 30th, 2007, 11:36 PM
Is that a rule?

I think so.

No Name Face
Nov 30th, 2007, 11:56 PM
being totally critical of game strategy here:

-amanda: playing a good game
-todd: a little too emotional, but playing a good game
-denise: has 4th or 5th place written all over her. she's just happy to be there, as someone else said.
-erik: dumb.
-pg: she has heart, more heart than denise, just unlucky.
-courtney: i think she's playing a pretty good game actually. she's not pathetic in challenges and she's in with the two best people to be in with. she's not necessarily on their ass though as evidenced by her friendships and wayward-ness at times. with that said, i can't see her winning against anyone in the final three, but she may make it there.

Blu€
Dec 1st, 2007, 12:24 AM
I liked James but it was now or never and he wasnt really the brightest so not really that bothered with him going, still I hope Amanda chills out, dont want her messing around and getting Todd out. I really want Erik gone, dont like him at all, PG is a pain in the ass but at least she's got blood running through her veins (spanish expression dont know if in english you use it too :lol: )

Scotso
Dec 1st, 2007, 12:45 AM
I'm happy if that's true about the new season. :D Only I wonder if that means one of these people for sure doesn't win this season. :o

Ryan
Dec 1st, 2007, 01:35 AM
Same here Scotso, which would annoy me but the winner hasnt been decided yet so I dont see how that could be...unless they arent in the final 3.

Mynarco
Dec 1st, 2007, 05:21 AM
only pg and amanda are playing the game

Tennisace
Dec 1st, 2007, 06:36 AM
I really don't want to see him in another season. Especially, with an All Star season I would like to see strategy be the focus of the season and well I can't see him bringing it.

juki
Dec 1st, 2007, 07:12 AM
I'm happy if that's true about the new season. :D Only I wonder if that means one of these people for sure doesn't win this season. :o

Well they are filming now, so they wouldn't know if they had won or not if they made the final, right?
Might be an exception to the no winner rule. :)

Scotso
Dec 1st, 2007, 08:58 AM
Same here Scotso, which would annoy me but the winner hasnt been decided yet so I dont see how that could be...unless they arent in the final 3.

The voting already took place, though, and I'm pretty sure CBS doesn't just keep them secured in the little box until the live show. They already know who won, I'm sure.

Scotso
Dec 1st, 2007, 08:59 AM
Well they are filming now, so they wouldn't know if they had won or not if they made the final, right?
Might be an exception to the no winner rule. :)

Filming is over. I'm pretty sure they film the entire thing before we even see the first episode.

juki
Dec 1st, 2007, 09:35 AM
Filming is over. I'm pretty sure they film the entire thing before we even see the first episode.

Filming for China is over but ASS2 is being filmed right now. So its possible that someone on China can make the finals, then film ASS, then after ASS return and find out if he/she won China or not. So I don't think it necessarily means that someone from China who is on ASS won't be the winner of China.

Ryan
Dec 1st, 2007, 03:52 PM
Hmm, thats an interesting point guys but I really dont think they'll have someone on All-Stars while they're waiting to reveal the winner for this season do you? :o Its possible I guess, seems like too much work though.


Scotso - I never thought about that. :o

sfselesfan
Dec 1st, 2007, 06:26 PM
Courtney Ownage still. She won more individual immunity challenges than James! All this "best survivor ever BS and he never even won an individual reward challenge or immunity.

SF

sfselesfan
Dec 1st, 2007, 06:28 PM
Regarding the "Spoiler" above. Some in the roster are purely speculative...including the person's name that begins with P. They might be on, but there is no solid source for that person.

SF

Ryan
Dec 1st, 2007, 07:01 PM
Yeah I figured it was more what Survivor people WANTED, not who they actually had. Any reason why you say that person in particular? Do you have inside info? ;)

Scotso
Dec 1st, 2007, 08:47 PM
Filming for China is over but ASS2 is being filmed right now. So its possible that someone on China can make the finals, then film ASS, then after ASS return and find out if he/she won China or not. So I don't think it necessarily means that someone from China who is on ASS won't be the winner of China.

That wasn't the point. The point was that it was claimed there would be no winners chosen for All Stars 2. It's not a question of could they do it.

sfselesfan
Dec 3rd, 2007, 06:41 PM
The "no winners" rumor for ASS2 is still a "rumor." All that has absolutely been confirmed is the location and some of the contestants. There are a lot of rumors about the season. Some of the potentially spoiled contestants are not well sourced, like the one whose name starts with "P" and even the one whose name starts with "C" even though I really want the latter person on the show. That is purely speculative at this point.

Sorry for the cryptic language, I just don't want to spoil anything in my post.

SF

Martian KC
Dec 5th, 2007, 10:24 AM
It's almost been a week and I'm still laughing at James. This is what happens when you try to coast through the game with no strategy whatsoever and become relient on 2 HII that you never got to use.:haha:

Scotso
Dec 7th, 2007, 02:12 AM
:sobbing:

Scotso
Dec 7th, 2007, 02:14 AM
Denise sealed her own fate by voting out Erik, she was right.

I'm also not sure if I believe the story about Todd's sister, judging from their exchange in the water. They were half-grinning talking about it.

Ryan
Dec 7th, 2007, 03:38 AM
Im not sure if I believe it either Scotso, but I would feel bad if it turned out to be true and I make fun of it so I wont. :o Denise is stupid, stupid, stupid - but at the same time, it would be WORSE for her if she pushed it to a tie and Erik still went home. I think this would have been the opportune week to eliminate Todd, next week looks like it'll be him or Amanda eh? If Amandas smart she'll push the all-female thing, plus Todd being a threat, and get him kicked out. Then she's pretty much set to win unless PG can win some more challenges and impress the judges.


That being said, I wanted Erik to go further because he's a nice guy, but hes pretty boring. Oh, and also because PG is an annoying bitch.

Ellery
Dec 7th, 2007, 03:42 AM
Peih-Gee :worship: :clap2: First woman to win 2 ICs since Danni from Guatemala, I believe. And this is Guatemala all over again: 4 women + 1 gay Mormon. Peih-Gee better win those 2 next immunities cause if she makes the final 3, she has a very good chance of winning.

Tennisace
Dec 7th, 2007, 03:53 AM
Is it just me or did last week's preview say that Amanda was going to push for an alliance with PG and Erik...although that never really materialized at all? I mean she talked to Erik but in the preview it looked like she was pushing it more forcibly.

I think it's very easy to say that Denise made the wrong decision. In my opinion it's only a good decision if she has enough votes on the jury before she turns on her alliance. If she had gone with Erik and PG, that would most likely alienate 3 votes (Amanda, Courtney, Todd). Given that you only need 4 votes to win, you definitely need to be confident of jury votes before making the jump.

Tennisace
Dec 7th, 2007, 03:54 AM
:sobbing:

He didn't look like a virgin licking Amanda's fingers, haha.

Ellery
Dec 7th, 2007, 03:57 AM
The problem though is that Denise basically knows that Amanda/Todd/Courtney will not take her to final 3. With Peih-Gee out, her only chance is to win immunity next or else she is fourth. On the other hand, in a final 3 against Erik and Peih-Gee, I honestly don't think Denise has much of a chance of winning. If she does win immunity in 2 episodes and make the final 3, I think she has a higher chance of winning than she does against Erik and Peih-Gee. So I find it hard to criticize her move as completely idiotic, though it could turn out to be.

Tennisace
Dec 7th, 2007, 04:21 AM
Based on the previews for next week's episode, I'm really liking the idea of an Amanda, Denise, PG alliance. If successful, I think it would give Amanda the win. It screws the least amount of people (Todd, Courtney) and shows some strong game play as opposed to just coasting to the final 3 if she stayed with Todd and Courtney.

No Name Face
Dec 7th, 2007, 04:42 AM
totally loving PG.
she's kinda bitchy, but honestly she was not bad this episode. she had every right to be pissed at denise for shafting her but she was nice when denise tried to make amends. and she won individual immunity again. what a fighter and competitor. if i was on the jury, based on gameplay and not favorites, i'd vote for pg or amanda.

amanda needs to make the switch or else she may be seen as riding on todd's coattails, even though that's not the case. if amanda switches, i can't see todd voting for denise or especially pg over amanda. but who knows, maybe he'll be a bitch about it.

i still like everyone and i don't necessarily think denise made a mad decision. it wasn't guaranteed todd would go if she voted against him, so what's the point? again she's putting her faith in someone (erik to win against todd in some sort of challenge), so why do it now when you can worry about that hurdle later?

i love this season. this wasn't a great episode, but i have a feeling the next one will be.

griffin
Dec 7th, 2007, 02:53 PM
Denise is stupid, stupid, stupid - but at the same time, it would be WORSE for her if she pushed it to a tie and Erik still went home.

Which makes her not so stupid. As does taking two key allies along for a major reward.

Ryan
Dec 7th, 2007, 04:05 PM
Which makes her not so stupid. As does taking two key allies along for a major reward.



Haha yeah, I decided to keep writing and "fix" what I was saying instead of going back and taking out the stupids. It was the safest play for her, since Todd wasnt guaranteed to go anyway.


I dont know why so many people like PG. I think she's a great competitor, but she's always complaining. Denise had NO obligation to take her on reward - she only took Denise because she wanted to sway her over to her/Erik's side, and Denise needed to keep on the "in" with her alliance. Basically, PG reminds me of someone that's always talking, always putting the blame on someone else. I'd hate to work with her.

Scotso
Dec 7th, 2007, 04:29 PM
I don't see how it would be worse for her to betray them and go with Erik and PG. At least then she has a good chance of making the final three. By sticking with ther original alliance, she's pretty much assured to be out 4th because no one wants to face her in the finals and the immunity challenge for that round will probably be endurance.

Sure, if she split from the alliance there's a chance she could be out 5th. But what's the big difference between 4th and 5th? You still lost.

Scotso
Dec 7th, 2007, 04:30 PM
I dont know why so many people like PG. I think she's a great competitor, but she's always complaining. Denise had NO obligation to take her on reward - she only took Denise because she wanted to sway her over to her/Erik's side, and Denise needed to keep on the "in" with her alliance. Basically, PG reminds me of someone that's always talking, always putting the blame on someone else. I'd hate to work with her.

I don't really like her, either. I don't hate her or anything, but she's definitely annoying with her constant whining and blaming things on everyone else. She seems to think she can do no wrong. It's too bad Todd didn't mess up that last question. She'd be gone and Erik would still be in. :sad:

Ellery
Dec 7th, 2007, 05:20 PM
I think Peih-Gee handled the Denise reward thing pretty well. She had the right to be somewhat frustrated, and when Denise came to her she didn't turn it into an ugly confrontation and remained fairly calm. After that she still tried to work with Denise, so it's not like she was letting her personal feelings get in the way of game play.

About her personality, it's definitely true that she doesn't come across as very personable. That's a strong weakness. However, she is super tenacious and logical, and I prefer a player who pissed off other people and plays the game actively to someone who just tries to be nice to everyone and prays that people keep him around because he is likable (i.e. Erik). Erik as a person is super likable, but I don't really like him as a survivor. Same with Denise.

sfselesfan
Dec 7th, 2007, 05:25 PM
I felt bad for Denise, she was in a bind. Vote out Erik and she probably goes out 4th unless the game gets shaken up. Vote out Todd and piss of your alliance as jury members, unless Todd wins the tiebreaker challenge...and then he comes back to camp as a MAJOR BITCH. It was a Catch 22 for Denise and she took the easier road.

Peih-Gee has redeemed herself nicely from the challenge throwing fiasco. She has become a class act. If I were to rank them in order that I would WANT them to win (not who I think will actually win) it would be:

(1) Denise
(2) Courney - even though she's my favorite, Denise needs it more
(3) Peih-Gee
(4) Todd
(5) Amanda

I actually like everyone that's left. Should be interesting. I'm not making a prediction because predictions are stupid in this game. (Too many people look on Survivor Sucks for the winner and then pretend they were guessing the whole time, it's annoying...you know who you are.)

SF

Ryan
Dec 7th, 2007, 06:22 PM
Ellery - I definitely agree about PG being logical and tenacious - she's real feisty, which I do admire. I just cant get over her overall personality, she comes across as a bitch. That being said, if she wins she definitely deserves it, even though I'd be mad haha.

Drake1980
Dec 7th, 2007, 06:24 PM
Todd and Courtney in Top 5 :woohoo:

KoOlMaNsEaN
Dec 7th, 2007, 06:37 PM
what would have happened if it was 3-3

sfselesfan
Dec 7th, 2007, 06:41 PM
what would have happened if it was 3-3

Jeff would have given everyone an opportunity to vote again. If after the second round of voting they were still tied, then Todd and Erik would have competed in a tie breaking challenge (typically fire starting). You can never be too sure in Survivor because they can change the rules at any time, but that's been the consensus for the last few seasons when there's been a tie.

In the past it's been different. In Australia they looked at past votes. Whoever had the most past votes was kicked off. In Marquesas everyone who had immunity picked colored rocks from a bag and whoever got the purple rock was out. Since then they've consistently had tie breaker challenges.

SF

IceHock
Dec 7th, 2007, 06:43 PM
Denise to me is just not a gambler at all, she takes the route where she knows she is gunna be safe then hopes something good happens to her, I think she should have written todd down, even though it wasn't necessarily certain he would go home, I think it was a risk she needed to take, and she said it herself, it could be the biggest mistake she's made in the game but we'll see how far she goes. I'm also liking PG, she's there to win the game, she's not overdoing it in my mind but somehow she's still there, and it's looking like she'll be around again next week.

Meesh
Dec 8th, 2007, 02:15 PM
I can't believe PG won again. I don't like her but you have to admire her for still being there. :lol: @ Courtney's imitation of Todd and Jeff's take on his sister. I kept thinking if Denise voted for Todd and it was a tie ..... they would re=vote and take Denise out instead! (todd, amanada and courtney)

Ellery
Dec 8th, 2007, 03:13 PM
I can't believe PG won again. I don't like her but you have to admire her for still being there. :lol: @ Courtney's imitation of Todd and Jeff's take on his sister. I kept thinking if Denise voted for Todd and it was a tie ..... they would re=vote and take Denise out instead! (todd, amanada and courtney)

If it turns out that Todd´s story is true, Courtney is going to look like one heck of a mean bitch. :rolleyes:

Meteor Shower
Dec 8th, 2007, 03:19 PM
Survivor: Israel starts for the first time next week. No more relying on U.S for good Survivor seasons! :D
Wish I could be on the show :) Israeli people cast - Its going to be entertaining, thats for sure. :lol:

Scotso
Dec 9th, 2007, 02:59 AM
Survivor: Israel starts for the first time next week. No more relying on U.S for good Survivor seasons! :D
Wish I could be on the show :) Israeli people cast - Its going to be entertaining, thats for sure. :lol:

You might still be relying on the US for good ones. :p

Wannabeknowitall
Dec 9th, 2007, 03:39 AM
Survivor: Israel starts for the first time next week. No more relying on U.S for good Survivor seasons! :D
Wish I could be on the show :) Israeli people cast - Its going to be entertaining, thats for sure. :lol:

You know what I would rather see?
Survivor: Israel and Palestine
16 people 1,000,000 dollars. This is not a game though.
The last survivor wins the million.
We don't have to know how the people dissapeared as long as there happens to be one person at the end.

Scotso
Dec 9th, 2007, 03:54 AM
I've always thought they should have a *true* Survivor like that. :p Where the last one to survive wins.

Picture it: 16 castaways on the harsh Antarctic plateau. Each castaway has enough food to last 10 days and moderately warm clothing and a tent, but they must survive for 34 days to win the $1 million. Each also receives a primitive weapon. ;)

No Name Face
Dec 9th, 2007, 04:31 AM
Hm. JR would survive the longest this season. He's the fattest. That, or the other survivors would cook him and eat him.

Meteor Shower
Dec 9th, 2007, 04:47 PM
You know what I would rather see?
Survivor: Israel and Palestine
16 people 1,000,000 dollars. This is not a game though.
The last survivor wins the million.
We don't have to know how the people dissapeared as long as there happens to be one person at the end.

Hm. JR would survive the longest this season. He's the fattest. That, or the other survivors would cook him and eat him.

:haha: :rolls:

You might still be relying on the US for good ones. :p

LOL! :lol:
Trust me, when the Israelis get close to the million dollar, there will be strategizing and lying like you've never seen. :lol:

Blu€
Dec 11th, 2007, 01:55 AM
Just saw last episode, Denise :worship:, thank god you voted out Erik, he was soooooo not entertaining, PG is annoying at least!
Dont really understand Amanda with all this lets take out Todd (from the preview), she definitely has better chances against him than against PG and Denise! Hope Todd wins next IM Idol, so close this week! Cant believe I'm saying this but I kinda want Courtney in the final :help::help:, if Amanda plays with fire Denise may flip to Todd and , Denise/Todd/Courtney vote her out, anyways leaving PG in a final 4 its very dangerous so its going to be a tough one this week!:wavey:

Denise4925
Dec 11th, 2007, 07:31 PM
Denise to me is just not a gambler at all, she takes the route where she knows she is gunna be safe then hopes something good happens to her, I think she should have written todd down, even though it wasn't necessarily certain he would go home, I think it was a risk she needed to take, and she said it herself, it could be the biggest mistake she's made in the game but we'll see how far she goes. I'm also liking PG, she's there to win the game, she's not overdoing it in my mind but somehow she's still there, and it's looking like she'll be around again next week.

I agree dAn. You have to make bold moves, especially when it's this down to the wire. Todd has way too much control over the game, along with Amanda. I would have let the fates decide on who goes home and voted for Todd if I were her. At this point, she's fourth regardless and she gave the reason why she's fourth herself. It was a stupid move in this game, because she doesn't have to charisma to persuade Amanda and Todd to take her to final three over Courtney. Oh well, we'll see what happens.

I also like PG, but I love an underdog who fights so hard. I didn't like PG at first, but I'm rooting for her now.

Denise4925
Dec 11th, 2007, 07:32 PM
Oh another note, JP from a prior Survivor season (I can't remember which one now) came out on the Janice Dickinson Show.

Wannabeknowitall
Dec 11th, 2007, 09:44 PM
Oh another note, JP from a prior Survivor season (I can't remember which one now) came out on the Janice Dickinson Show.

There was a Janice Dickinson thread about 8 months ago, that mentioned that.
Like it's a surprise anyway.

IceHock
Dec 11th, 2007, 10:39 PM
Was that the season with the different ethnicities?

sfselesfan
Dec 11th, 2007, 11:06 PM
Yes...Cook Islands. Yul won that season. I knew JP was a queen from the first moment I saw him. He has "circuit boy" written all over him.

SF

Ellery
Dec 12th, 2007, 12:23 AM
Oh another note, JP from a prior Survivor season (I can't remember which one now) came out on the Janice Dickinson Show.

That news is so old :p

drake3781
Dec 12th, 2007, 03:38 AM
My favorites right now are Denise and PG.
Don't like Todd. Don't particularly like Courtney.
Not sure about Amanda.

Ellery
Dec 12th, 2007, 03:48 AM
So fake, but hilarious :haha: :spit: :

"Unedited" First tribal council

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqy8o8XEt7g&feature=related

Scotso
Dec 12th, 2007, 04:28 AM
So fake, but hilarious :haha: :spit: :

"Unedited" First tribal council

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqy8o8XEt7g&feature=related

:haha:

I don't know why that's so hilarious, but it is.

I love Ashley's reaction.

Scotso
Dec 12th, 2007, 04:30 AM
Oh another note, JP from a prior Survivor season (I can't remember which one now) came out on the Janice Dickinson Show.

:drool:

I didn't know this, so thanks for the news. I was pretty sure he was gay though. I had many fun times imagining he and Ozzy getting it on in the jungle. :drool: :p

But I've moved on since then.... ;)

Scotso
Dec 12th, 2007, 04:37 AM
Check out JP's ass :drool: (if you want) Unfortunately the package looks rather puny.

http://ellegedly.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/jpcalderon_1.jpg

Tennisace
Dec 12th, 2007, 05:02 AM
That is some tiny underwear.

drake3781
Dec 12th, 2007, 05:04 AM
I don't remember JP. :shrug: Even after seeing his picture, I have no recollection of him.

Ellery
Dec 12th, 2007, 01:36 PM
Well, speaking of JP, Brad and he were supposed to be dating or something. Dunno is that rumor turned out to be true or not. :shrug:

sfselesfan
Dec 12th, 2007, 06:22 PM
JP was an A-Hole. He got voted out by the women in a merged tribe because he was too bossy. He would lay in the hut or by the fire and ask them to bring him stuff and tell them how to do the work they were doing...but he didn't help. I actually didn't like that he was pretending to be straight on the show the whole time. If you're gay, don't try and act straight. It came out during the show that he was a bartender at a gay bar in Long Beach, and had been dating guys for a while in LA. Then he tried to act like he had this little romance with Cecilia on the show. Puh-leeze. Not another Clay Aiken. When he "came out" on the Janice Dickenson show to extend his 15 minutes to 30 minutes I was thinking "yeah, no shit!"

SF

Ryan
Dec 12th, 2007, 06:36 PM
Haha, I remember JP, what a queen. Lookin forward to the finale this sunday. :cool:

Ellery
Dec 12th, 2007, 07:10 PM
JP was an A-Hole. He got voted out by the women in a merged tribe because he was too bossy. He would lay in the hut or by the fire and ask them to bring him stuff and tell them how to do the work they were doing...but he didn't help. I actually didn't like that he was pretending to be straight on the show the whole time. If you're gay, don't try and act straight. It came out during the show that he was a bartender at a gay bar in Long Beach, and had been dating guys for a while in LA. Then he tried to act like he had this little romance with Cecilia on the show. Puh-leeze. Not another Clay Aiken. When he "came out" on the Janice Dickenson show to extend his 15 minutes to 30 minutes I was thinking "yeah, no shit!"

SF


:lol:The "blindside" of JP was cool, except that it wasn't so much that the others outplayed or outwitted him, as that they outnotnapped him. :help: All I remember about JP is him lying down and napping while other people worked. :tape:

Denise4925
Dec 12th, 2007, 09:49 PM
That news is so old :p

Sorry, :shrug: it's news to me.

Scotso
Dec 13th, 2007, 07:57 PM
I think we can all agree JP was/is an asshole, but he's still really *^%$ing hot. :p

Unless news comes out that he's violent and abusive or something, I don't mind drooling over him. It's not like I want to marry the guy, just @!#% him.

Denise4925
Dec 13th, 2007, 09:07 PM
I think we can all agree JP was/is an asshole, but he's still really *^%$ing hot. :p

Unless news comes out that he's violent and abusive or something, I don't mind drooling over him. It's not like I want to marry the guy, just @!#% him.

:lol:

Ellery
Dec 13th, 2007, 11:58 PM
I think we can all agree JP was/is an asshole, but he's still really *^%$ing hot. :p

Unless news comes out that he's violent and abusive or something, I don't mind drooling over him. It's not like I want to marry the guy, just @!#% him.

Well asshole is a bit stretching it. Lazy and useless, yeah. Asshole? Not really.

sfselesfan
Dec 14th, 2007, 12:04 AM
Well asshole is a bit stretching it. Lazy and useless, yeah. Asshole? Not really.

Actually, he pretty much seemed like an asshole to me. It wasn't that he was simply laying around. He was talking a lot of shit too (about the women mainly), which qualifies as assholish to me. He was also one of the morons that talked the women on his tribe into throwing a challenge to vote out one of his tribemates. That's borderline assholish...enough to put him over the top in that department if you ask me.

SF

Ellery
Dec 14th, 2007, 12:23 AM
Actually, he pretty much seemed like an asshole to me. It wasn't that he was simply laying around. He was talking a lot of shit too (about the women mainly), which qualifies as assholish to me. He was also one of the morons that talked the women on his tribe into throwing a challenge to vote out one of his tribemates. That's borderline assholish...enough to put him over the top in that department if you ask me.

SF

I don't remember about him trashing the women :o Yeah, okay, that's bad. But for the challenge throwing, wasn't it Ozzy's idea? :p And would that make Ozzy an asshole? :confused: I don't think throwing a challenge makes you an asshole.

IceHock
Dec 14th, 2007, 01:17 AM
Denise really is just borderline retarded, my god the her only getting 2 arrows and yet she still takes todd and courtney, use your brainnnnnnnnnnnnn.

Wannabeknowitall
Dec 14th, 2007, 01:53 AM
Denise really is just borderline retarded, my god the her only getting 2 arrows and yet she still takes todd and courtney, use your brainnnnnnnnnnnnn.

It seems like a smart move because that energy PG would have gotten from being in the reward @ The Great Wall of China would have been enough for her to win that immunity idol.

IceHock
Dec 14th, 2007, 01:57 AM
It seems like a smart move because that energy PG would have gotten from being in the reward @ The Great Wall of China would have been enough for her to win that immunity idol.
nah it was a chance yet again for denise to switch sides, why take the guy that will most likely backstab you no matter what you've done to him over a guarenteed final 3 spot with pg and amanda, todd will do whatever to win the million like he said at tribal, denise is not playing a smart game at all, she's riding coattails right now and that only gets you so far.

Tennisace
Dec 14th, 2007, 02:00 AM
I used to like Denise until this episode and man did the editing team do a number on Todd and his arrogance at tribal council. I'm rooting for Amanda and Courtney this weekend.

Wannabeknowitall
Dec 14th, 2007, 02:05 AM
nah it was a chance yet again for denise to switch sides, why take the guy that will most likely backstab you no matter what you've done to him over a guarenteed final 3 spot with pg and amanda, todd will do whatever to win the million like he said at tribal, denise is not playing a smart game at all, she's riding coattails right now and that only gets you so far.

If she would have turned on Todd she definitely would be in the final 3. That's true.
She has put herself in a predicament.

And part of me hopes she pays for it. I think at this point though, Amanda is the favorite to win if the jury voted today.
I think Todd, Courtney, and Denise are starting to see that.
Amanda is going to have to win again, IMO to get to the final 3.

Ryan
Dec 14th, 2007, 02:17 AM
Agreed Wannabe. Amanda is now the big threat, considering her stellar Immunity performance today, scheming and decision-making, but also being nice the entire time. She HAS to win to make it to the Finals unless she somehow persuades Courtney and Denise. By the way, everyone calls Denise a puppet, but how is Courtney any different? If anything she's worse because Denis has (albeit failed to do) had moments of thought, while Courtney is just a tiny, skeleton doll that votes the way Todd wants her to - where's the string coming out her back? :p


Did anyone else notice the preview for the finale? It said THREE tribal councils...which to me would indicate a Final 2, wouldn't it? That makes no sense with 6 people already on the jury, since that would mean 8 on the jury at the end, but I cant imagine them making a stupid error like that, could they?

Ellery
Dec 14th, 2007, 02:18 AM
Hate Denise now. Seriously, "I am at the bottom of the totem pole blablabla"... and then what does she do? Some more Amanda/Todd/Courtney asskissing. Maybe if you had actually tried to do something, you wouldn't be in this position. One of the most useless players in Survivor history.

Wannabeknowitall
Dec 14th, 2007, 02:27 AM
Agreed Wannabe. Amanda is now the big threat, considering her stellar Immunity performance today, scheming and decision-making, but also being nice the entire time. She HAS to win to make it to the Finals unless she somehow persuades Courtney and Denise. By the way, everyone calls Denise a puppet, but how is Courtney any different? If anything she's worse because Denis has (albeit failed to do) had moments of thought, while Courtney is just a tiny, skeleton doll that votes the way Todd wants her to - where's the string coming out her back? :p




But Courtney is actually entertaining. Her telling Jeff to shut up last week during the reward challenge, hilarious.
But it does give people hope.

The four physically weak players of the whole competition, PG, Todd, Courtney, and Amanda, made the top 5.

Ellery
Dec 14th, 2007, 02:30 AM
And now James will probably win 100 000$ :o :help:

tonythetiger
Dec 14th, 2007, 02:38 AM
Denise is mentally challenged if she thinks she will get more votes than Todd if she even remotely makes it to the final. Her best was to show the other jurors that she was even somewhat playing the game by working with PG to get Todd voted off. The only female who has a chance against Todd in the finals is Amanda. Both Todd and Amanda deserve respect for actually playing the game well. Denise gets no respect because has zero strategy and she got this far on the skirt tail of other players.

Ellery
Dec 14th, 2007, 02:46 AM
Denise is mentally challenged if she thinks she will get more votes than Todd if she even remotely makes it to the final. Her best was to show the other jurors that she was even somewhat playing the game by working with PG to get Todd voted off. The only female who has a chance against Todd in the finals is Amanda. Both Todd and Amanda deserve respect for actually playing the game well. Denise gets no respect because has zero strategy and she got this far on the skirt tail of other players.

Denise is not only useless but also came across as being just cruel today. When she said "I don't want to take Peih-Gee because I don't want her to get strong" in front of a starving PG, I wanted to smack her.

Tennisace
Dec 14th, 2007, 03:07 AM
Agreed Wannabe. Amanda is now the big threat, considering her stellar Immunity performance today, scheming and decision-making, but also being nice the entire time. She HAS to win to make it to the Finals unless she somehow persuades Courtney and Denise. By the way, everyone calls Denise a puppet, but how is Courtney any different? If anything she's worse because Denis has (albeit failed to do) had moments of thought, while Courtney is just a tiny, skeleton doll that votes the way Todd wants her to - where's the string coming out her back? :p


Did anyone else notice the preview for the finale? It said THREE tribal councils...which to me would indicate a Final 2, wouldn't it? That makes no sense with 6 people already on the jury, since that would mean 8 on the jury at the end, but I cant imagine them making a stupid error like that, could they?

When they said three maybe they are counting 1) to get the final 3, 2) the jury inquiry, 3) the final reveal?

Tennisace
Dec 14th, 2007, 03:13 AM
And now James will probably win 100 000$ :o :help:

Let's hope he doesn't. He is way too smug for his own good. Hopefully the humble pie after being blind-sided with two immunity idols will have some effect. I hope the rumours are not true about All Star. He doesn't deserve a second chance.

KoOlMaNsEaN
Dec 14th, 2007, 03:55 AM
Im still rooting for Todd even though the editers did a number on him.
I have so much respect for PG with all of her fighting ability.

Ellery
Dec 14th, 2007, 04:00 AM
Let's hope he doesn't. He is way too smug for his own good. Hopefully the humble pie after being blind-sided with two immunity idols will have some effect. I hope the rumours are not true about All Star. He doesn't deserve a second chance.

Well, James is still leading the CBS popularity poll :lol:

Ryan
Dec 14th, 2007, 04:04 AM
James is the most popular, really? When did they say the most popular would get 100 grand? I hope Amanda takes it, since I dont think Courtney or Denise have done anything to "deserve" it besides float along, and Todd bugs me.

Tennisace
Dec 14th, 2007, 04:14 AM
Well, James is still leading the CBS popularity poll :lol:

Looks like it's time to sabotage that :devil:

drake3781
Dec 14th, 2007, 04:20 AM
My favorites right now are Denise and PG.
Don't like Todd. Don't particularly like Courtney.
Not sure about Amanda.

Revised after tonight's episode:

Amanda
Denise
Courtney-Todd at the bottom

Meesh
Dec 14th, 2007, 04:27 AM
I hope Amanda wins and James wins the poll on CBS :)
--- i thought this would be the CAR episode.

eck
Dec 14th, 2007, 04:28 AM
PG :(
There goes my Asian Pride :(

Denise is such a stupid player it's unbelievable. YOU WON'T BE GETTING THE MONEY YOU FOOL.

Amanda FTW, because the other 3 are like babies but taller :help:

drake3781
Dec 14th, 2007, 04:34 AM
PG must have felt how I feel a lot of the time... sort of trapped in a world run by fools, and the fools have control based on sheer numbers... and there is nothing you can do about it... the problem is too big to manage!!! So frustrating. :p

canuckfan
Dec 14th, 2007, 04:34 AM
I don't really understand why James is supposed to be so popular. What has he done to deserve it? Except for having no people skills and being incredibly stupid :scratch:

Damn it, PG winning immunity and Denise getting the boot would have resulted in a fantastic final four. So close.
I hope anyone but Denise win. She's been terrible the last two episodes. I hate contestants gunning for fourth place.

KoOlMaNsEaN
Dec 14th, 2007, 05:43 AM
I agree with canuck fan. Denise has been playing it way too safe that even if she miraculously made it to final 2 no one would vote for her.

Ellery
Dec 14th, 2007, 01:34 PM
James is the most popular, really? When did they say the most popular would get 100 grand? I hope Amanda takes it, since I dont think Courtney or Denise have done anything to "deserve" it besides float along, and Todd bugs me.

It was advertised during the commercial right before the preview for next episode, I think.

:haha: :tape: Denise is now leading the CBS popularity poll :help: So sad.

Ellery
Dec 14th, 2007, 02:50 PM
Does anyone else here read the CBS Survivors strike back blog? :lol: Nowadays, the only posts that make sense are Brian's, Bobby's and Anthony's, but Scout's ramblings are always hilarious.

Scout: "Tonight, more than ever, shows Denise to be a real player. The girlfriend has already won the "kindness" award, and should she get to the final two, she's definitely got PG's vote"

:haha: What is Scout smoking :tape:

Ryan
Dec 14th, 2007, 03:49 PM
I think the only person who "has" PG's vote would be Amanda - she bonded with her in the last few days, but didn't really backstab her or do anything in voting her out she wasn't expected to do. Denise - how the FUCK does she have PG's vote where she didn't take her on a reward TWICE (I dont think she had to, but PG did), and failed to swing over to her side twice too. Dumb Scout.

tonythetiger
Dec 14th, 2007, 04:54 PM
Denise has yet to out-right win anything on her own. She has had help winning every challenge. The other players do not respect her mainly because she quit every eating challenge. She just seems lazy to me. Players that luckily get to the finals don't usually get the votes. My vote is for "Emaciated Countney" to win.

Scotso
Dec 14th, 2007, 08:36 PM
I don't think Denise is lazy at all. That's a pretty silly remark.

I'm so in love with Amanda. She looked so hot in that last episode. :hearts: And I can't believe Todd was talking about voting her out. He's just too sneaky. I mean, it's one thing to be smart and play the game well, it's another to just be a selfish ass. I'm really tired of him.

Amanda FTW! :rocker2:

Scotso
Dec 14th, 2007, 08:38 PM
James is the most popular, really? When did they say the most popular would get 100 grand? I hope Amanda takes it, since I dont think Courtney or Denise have done anything to "deserve" it besides float along, and Todd bugs me.

Courtney may be a bit of a bitch, but she makes me laugh a lot. For that alone, I like her.

Scotso
Dec 14th, 2007, 08:42 PM
By the way, everyone calls Denise a puppet, but how is Courtney any different? If anything she's worse because Denis has (albeit failed to do) had moments of thought, while Courtney is just a tiny, skeleton doll that votes the way Todd wants her to - where's the string coming out her back? :p

One difference is that Courtney is pretty much assured of the final three at this point. :shrug:

Scotso
Dec 14th, 2007, 08:43 PM
But Courtney is actually entertaining. Her telling Jeff to shut up last week during the reward challenge, hilarious.
But it does give people hope.

That was the greatest Survivor moment ever. It was about time someone told him to shut it. I'm surprised he didn't cry and demand she be removed from the game immediately.

The four physically weak players of the whole competition, PG, Todd, Courtney, and Amanda, made the top 5.

I wouldn't call PG or Amanda weak. There were much worse players out there when it came to competitions. They're small, yes, but not weak at all.

Ellery
Dec 14th, 2007, 08:46 PM
Courtney may be a bit of a bitch, but she makes me laugh a lot. For that alone, I like her.

Courtney is entertaining and even sort of likable, but she still sucks as a player. :sad:

Ellery
Dec 14th, 2007, 08:48 PM
One difference is that Courtney is pretty much assured of the final three at this point. :shrug:

True. Bye bye Denise :wavey: Maybe you should have been writing 4 on your votes instead of 3 honey. :lol:

canuckfan
Dec 14th, 2007, 10:10 PM
Courtney is entertaining and even sort of likable, but she still sucks as a player. :sad:

I don't know about that. She's been part of the alliance with Amanda and Todd since way back and had her top 3 spot sealed. So no need for her to do something too flashy.

canuckfan
Dec 14th, 2007, 10:15 PM
Does anyone else here read the CBS Survivors strike back blog? :lol: Nowadays, the only posts that make sense are Brian's, Bobby's and Anthony's, but Scout's ramblings are always hilarious.

Scout: "Tonight, more than ever, shows Denise to be a real player. The girlfriend has already won the "kindness" award, and should she get to the final two, she's definitely got PG's vote"

:haha: What is Scout smoking :tape:

Well Scout was the same type of player that Denise is, absolutly clueless and riding coattails. In other words, a total waste of a spot.

Ellery
Dec 14th, 2007, 10:18 PM
Well Scout was the same type of player that Denise is, absolutly clueless and riding coattails. In other words, a total waste of a spot.

Spot on. I still remember one of her early posts, where she was criticizing Peih-Gee for the challenge throwing because she was worried that it would give off the wrong impression, that challenges aren't important and that winning doesn't matter. She also criticized Courtney for being physically weak.

Helloooooo, Scout, you are probably the most useless player in challenges in history, so :tape: :kiss: :help:

Denise4925
Dec 14th, 2007, 11:01 PM
Denise really is just borderline retarded, my god the her only getting 2 arrows and yet she still takes todd and courtney, use your brainnnnnnnnnnnnn.

dAn, I think you and I are totally on the same wavelength with this show. :lol: I could not understand her rationalization for her choices. Also, why didn't she tell Amanda of Todd's scheme at the reward to get rid of her? :weirdo: Denise drives me crazy.

Scotso
Dec 14th, 2007, 11:04 PM
I loved that season, though, up until the all-girl alliance fell apart.