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Rocketta
Sep 20th, 2007, 03:06 PM
Large crowd rallies for 'Jena 6' in La.

JENA, La. (AP) — Thousands of chanting demonstrators filled the streets of this little Louisiana town Thursday in support of six black teenagers initially charged with attempted murder in the beating of a white classmate.
The crowd broke into chants of "Free the Jena Six" as the Rev. Al Sharpton arrived at the local courthouse with family members of the jailed teens.


Martin Luther King III, son of the slain civil rights leader, said the scene was reminiscent of earlier civil rights struggles. He said punishment of some sort may be in order for the six defendants, but "the justice system isn't applied the same to all crimes and all people."


The six teens were charged not long after the local prosecutor declined to charge three white high school students who hung nooses in a tree on their high school grounds. Five of the black teens were initially charged with attempted murder, but that charge was reduced to battery for all but one, who has yet to be arraigned; the sixth teen was charged as a juvenile.


"This is the most blatant example of disparity in the justice system that we've seen," the Rev. Al Sharpton told CBS's The Early Show before arriving in Jena. "You can't have two standards of justice."


"We didn't bring race in it," he said. "Those that hung the nooses brought the race into it."


Sharpton, who helped organized the rally, said this could be the beginning of the 21st century's civil rights movement, one that would challenge disparities in the justice system.


The district attorney who is prosecution the teens, Reed Walters, denied on Wednesday that racism was involved in the charges.


He said he didn't charge the white students accused of hanging the nooses because he could find no Louisiana law under which they could be charged. In the beating case, he said, four of the defendants were of adult age under Louisiana law and the only juvenile charged as an adult, Mychal Bell, had a prior criminal record.


"It is not and never has been about race," he said. "It is about finding justice for an innocent victim and holding people accountable for their actions."


The white teen who was beaten, Justin Barker, was knocked unconscious, his face badly swollen and bloodied, though he was able to attend a school function later that night.


Bell, 16 at the time of the attack, is the only one of the "Jena Six" to be tried so far. He was convicted on an aggravated second-degree battery count that could have sent him to prison for 15 years, but the conviction was overturned last week when a state appeals court said he should not have been tried as an adult.


Thursday's protest had been planned to coincide with Bell's sentencing, but organizers decided to press ahead even after the conviction was thrown out. Bell remains in jail while prosecutors prepare an appeal. He has been unable to meet the $90,000 bond.


"We all have family members about the age of these guys. We said it could have been one of them. We wanted to try to do something," said Angela Merrick, 36, of Atlanta, who drove with three friends from Atlanta to protest the treatment of the teens.


Dennis Courtland Hayes, interim president and CEO of the NAACP, compared the outcry to the controversy that followed racial remarks by radio personality Don Imus.


"People are saying, 'That's enough, and we're not taking it any more,"' Hayes said.


The rally was heavily promoted on black websites, blogs, radio and publications. State police declined to give crowd estimates, but participants at the park and the courthouse appeared to number in the thousands.


Students came from universities across the region, including historically black colleges like Morehouse College, Spelman College, Clark Atlanta University, Howard University, Hampton University and Southern University.
Tina Cheatham missed the civil rights marches at Selma, Montgomery and Little Rock, but she had no intention of missing another brush with history. The 24-year-old Georgia Southern University graduate drove all night to reach tiny Jena in central Louisiana.


"It was a good chance to be part of something historic since I wasn't around for the civil rights movement. This is kind of the 21st century version of it," she said.


In Jena, with only 3,500 residents, some residents worried about safety. Hotels were booked from as far away as Natchez, Miss., to Alexandria, La.
Red Cross officials manned first aid stations near the local courthouse and had water and snacks on hand. Portable toilets and flashing street signs to aid in traffic direction were in place. At the courthouse troopers chatted amiably with each other and with demonstrators who began showing up well before dawn.


Sharpton, who helped organize the protest, met Bell at the courthouse Wednesday morning. He said Bell is heartened by the show of support and wants to make sure it stays peaceful.


"He doesn't want anything done that would disparage his name — no violence, not even a negative word," Sharpton said.


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samsung101
Sep 20th, 2007, 04:07 PM
As long as it is peaceful, I applaud the young people who were there, took the time to
participate.


The charges against some of the young men were too harsh.

But, the charges against the young men should be made.
It isn't racial equality to have several young men beat, kick,hit,
mame, one single guy. That's just a mob attack. That could have
led to death easily.

The school and city officials should have stepped in sooner to do more,
to try to offset a growth in the incident of racial tensions. Yes, they
messed up badly in my view. The group or kids who likely did the noose
stuff should have been punished, it should have been addressed better.
The police were wrong in how they handled it before it got out of hand too.



However, none of that is an excuse for what the young men did to this one young
guy.

That's not a fight. It's just a gang attack. They deserve punishment.

Oddly, there have been many interviews saying the racial tension in the town was not
a problem for most adults - black and white. There were and are pockets of it only.
Cliques in school, shocking isn't it.
However, I do wonder why Jackson and Sharpton did not bother to do anything like this when
the LA schools were and are regularly shut down, locked down, because of black and hispanic
racial hatred and attacks. This happens in high school, jr. high, and elementary schools in
LA rather regularly. Not a peep from the two.

What of the outrage over two white women beaten by a group of young black attackers on a Halloween
night two years ago in Long Beach? There have been other black on white attacks in the South Bay
for years.

Where is the protest?


Sharpton and Jackson were front and center in the Duke Rape case too.
Tawana Brawley fake rape case as well years ago.
Their credability is little to zero.

Cam'ron Giles
Sep 20th, 2007, 04:25 PM
What of the outrage over two white women beaten by a group of young black attackers on a Halloween
night two years ago in Long Beach? There have been other black on white attacks in the South Bay
for years.

Where is the protest?





If you feel so strongly about that then get your ass off WTA World and go protest it...:rolleyes:

BigB08822
Sep 20th, 2007, 04:40 PM
They need to be punished for their crimes so I hope people don't go to this thinking they can get these boys off because of some racism. The deal with the nooses should never have happened but unfortunately it is apparently not a crime to hang a noose in a tree. It sure isn't nice but what law was broken?

GrandSlam05
Sep 20th, 2007, 04:44 PM
Honestly, attempted murder is pretty harsh, but if you beat someone bad enough to *knock them unconscious* then you could probably kill them. And maybe the only reason they stopped is b/c they thought he was dying/dead b/c he was unconscious?
Honestly the "noose thing" is really stupid and irrelevant. It should have never been done, but it's not the same as beating someone to the point of losing consciousness. I mean it's pretty hard to prosecute someone for "putting a noose in tree" unless it's clear they had intent to use it.

Cam'ron Giles
Sep 20th, 2007, 04:55 PM
Honestly, attempted murder is pretty harsh, but if you beat someone bad enough to *knock them unconscious* then you could probably kill them. And maybe the only reason they stopped is b/c they thought he was dying/dead b/c he was unconscious?
Honestly the "noose thing" is really stupid and irrelevant. It should have never been done, but it's not the same as beating someone to the point of losing consciousness. I mean it's pretty hard to prosecute someone for "putting a noose in tree" unless it's clear they had intent to use it.

Where is the punishment for the white kids that beat up the black kids prior to this incident? Should there lives be ruined because of a school yard fight? At what point do we hold the school system accountable for allowing this to escalate? Can you justify what the DA said to these kids prior to the fight when they were holding a legal protest? "I'll ruin your lives with one stroke of my pen" I cant believe some of you people...punish? Maybe...but decades behind bars for a schoolyard fight? GET REAL...:rolleyes:

Cam'ron Giles
Sep 20th, 2007, 04:56 PM
Some of you need to go read the facts of the case before you start commenting...you sound just about as racist as the prosecutor...:tape:

Foot_Fault
Sep 20th, 2007, 04:57 PM
My entire staff wore black or have on black ribbons in support. I am very happy to support from afar!

Rocketta
Sep 20th, 2007, 05:01 PM
It seems to me, the context in which the noose was hung from the tree was a clear attempt at racial intimidation, and threat to bodily harm. It is no different then if they had burned a cross. It is clear the intent and if I'm not mistaken there were probably some federal civil rights violations committed by hanging the noose in the circumstances that it was hung in. However, the school didn't escalate the incident to that level and handled it in-house but when it escalated now they want to throw the book at the kids.

Should these children get off, of course not. I don't know how many times does it have to pointed out the unbelievable unequality of justice in this country before people get it? :scratch:

GrandSlam05
Sep 20th, 2007, 05:02 PM
Where is the punishment for the white kids that beat up the black kids prior to this incident? Should there lives be ruined because of a school yard fight? At what point do we hold the school system accountable for allowing this to escalate? Can you justify what the DA said to these kids prior to the fight when they were holding a legal protest? "I'll ruin your lives with one stroke of my pen" I cant believe some of you people...punish? Maybe...but decades behind bars for a schoolyard fight? GET REAL...:rolleyes:
6 on 1 is not a "schoolyard fight". It's a mob beating.

GrandSlam05
Sep 20th, 2007, 05:04 PM
It seems to me, the context in which the noose was hung from the tree was a clear attempt at racial intimidation, and threat to bodily harm. It is no different then if they had burned a cross. It is clear the intent and if I'm not mistaken there were probably some federal civil rights violations committed by hanging the noose in the circumstances that it was hung in. However, the school didn't escalate the incident to that level and handled it in-house but when it escalated now they want to throw the book at the kids.

Should these children get off, of course not. I don't know how many times does it have to pointed out the unbelievable unequality of justice in this country before people get it? :scratch:
Oh ok. So small town in the SOUTH = entire country?

Rocketta
Sep 20th, 2007, 05:06 PM
Oh ok. So small town in the SOUTH = entire country?

www.rif.org

:rolleyes:

Cam'ron Giles
Sep 20th, 2007, 05:11 PM
6 on 1 is not a "schoolyard fight". It's a mob beating.

I see you conveniently chose to respond to part of my post (taking it out of context no doubt)…It's clar that you have no interest in this case...no intrest in the facts and no interest in equality in the justice system...It’s ok because it’s very clear that folks like you are just mad and maybe scared that black folks are mobilizing and telling America that we are not going to let you ruing the lives of six young black men…not this time. GET USE TO IT…it’s the start of something much bigger than Jena Six.

Cam'ron Giles
Sep 20th, 2007, 05:14 PM
www.rif.org (http://www.rif.org)

:rolleyes:


Rocky, some people are just plain and simply an exercise in futility…they have their agenda...just one big ole waste of time

Pureracket
Sep 20th, 2007, 05:16 PM
The victim was out of the hospital the following day, so it's rather difficult for me to believe he was beaten almost to death.

Cam'ron Giles
Sep 20th, 2007, 05:19 PM
The victim was out of the hospital the following day, so it's rather difficult for me to believe he was beaten almost to death.

The victim was out of the hospital the same day and attended a school function...:tape:

Rocketta
Sep 20th, 2007, 05:21 PM
what started this last fight anyway? What did the 6 say and what did the kid that got beat up say? :confused:

Cam'ron Giles
Sep 20th, 2007, 05:25 PM
what started this last fight anyway? What did the 6 say and what did the kid that got beat up say? :confused:

A black student got jumped first...I believe it was retaliation...:shrug: Where are the charges against them? :confused:

Pureracket
Sep 20th, 2007, 05:42 PM
A black student got jumped first...I believe it was retaliation...:shrug: Where are the charges against them? :confused:
I wish some of you all would read more about the case before you spout off.

Please read this link before being snarky.

http://www.minglecity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=996 (http://www.minglecity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=996)

If even half the stuff being alleged is true, and I've followed the case closely enough to believe that a lot of it is, then that DA needs to be strung up by his balls

And you do realize that several white kids committed similar offenses in this situation and were charged with NOTHING? Do you realize that this was an all white jury that's trying these kids?

Cam'ron Giles
Sep 20th, 2007, 05:47 PM
I wish some of you all would read more about the case before you spout off.

Please read this link before being snarky.

http://www.minglecity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=996 (http://www.minglecity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=996)

If even half the stuff being alleged is true, and I've followed the case closely enough to believe that a lot of it is, then that DA needs to be strung up by his balls

And you do realize that several white kids committed similar offenses in this situation and were charged with NOTHING? Do you realize that this was an all white jury that's trying these kids?

OMG...was that directed at me? :unsure: :scared: I'm on your side...thats what I've been saying...:scared: :scared:

Pureracket
Sep 20th, 2007, 05:49 PM
OMG...was that directed at me? :unsure: :scared: I'm on your side...thats what I've been saying...:scared: :scared:LMAO....nah, babe. I was quoting you in order to agree.

Cam'ron Giles
Sep 20th, 2007, 06:12 PM
LMAO....nah, babe. I was quoting you in order to agree.

Phew...for a moment there I thaught you were gonna backhand me across the room...:scared:

kiwifan
Sep 20th, 2007, 06:17 PM
a. the kids committed a cowardly act and should be punished.

b. the punishment didn't fit the actual crime.

c. Me is wearing black.

d. I hope today's rally is successful, peaceful and leads to more efforts to shine a light on injustice in small towns and big cities all over the USA. :)

e. and I still want to puke every time I hear someone described as a "black leader", Me is the only boss of Me. :devil:

woosey
Sep 20th, 2007, 06:34 PM
OMG...was that directed at me? :unsure: :scared: I'm on your side...thats what I've been saying...:scared: :scared:

now you know how i feel. :lol:

woosey
Sep 20th, 2007, 06:34 PM
i'm also wearing all black.

Rocketta
Sep 20th, 2007, 06:48 PM
well I'm wearing black pants but I didn't know we were suppose to wear black today. :tape:

Wannabeknowitall
Sep 20th, 2007, 06:51 PM
I'm wearing all purple today. :lol:

I just don't get it. When has Louisiana ever been racially just? NEVER.

When Katrina happened, the NAACP and other minority organizations should have kept their asses in Louisiana and kept the pressure on the state of Louisiana.

Katrina was not just a federal issue, it was a disaster that showed the that infrastructure of the government from locally to federal was just fucked up.

I'm for change but I'm not seeing consistentcy.
Why pick this one as a battleground when something like Katrina was the WAR.

The racial issues that have been in Louisiana just this century have been beyond comprehension.
Jena 6 should not be the catalyst for racial change in Louisiana and America, if anything it should have been Katrina.

GrandSlam05
Sep 20th, 2007, 06:58 PM
I'm wearing all purple today. :lol:

I just don't get it. When has Louisiana ever been racially just? NEVER.

When Katrina happened, the NAACP and other minority organizations should have kept their asses in Louisiana and kept the pressure on the state of Louisiana.

Katrina was not just a federal issue, it was a disaster that showed the that infrastructure of the government from locally to federal was just fucked up.

I'm for change but I'm not seeing consistentcy.
Why pick this one as a battleground when something like Katrina was the WAR.

The racial issues that have been in Louisiana just this century have been beyond comprehension.
Jena 6 should not be the catalyst for racial change in Louisiana and America, if anything it should have been Katrina.
I agree with what you say. I just sigh when I see incidents like this happen, but I have come to expect it from the South. It's like a whole other country down there and I am just embarrassed the people from the whole world might think of all Americans are like people from the South.

Pureracket
Sep 20th, 2007, 07:22 PM
I'm wearing all purple today. :lol:

I just don't get it. When has Louisiana ever been racially just? NEVER.

When Katrina happened, the NAACP and other minority organizations should have kept their asses in Louisiana and kept the pressure on the state of Louisiana.

Katrina was not just a federal issue, it was a disaster that showed the that infrastructure of the government from locally to federal was just fucked up.

I'm for change but I'm not seeing consistentcy.
Why pick this one as a battleground when something like Katrina was the WAR.

The racial issues that have been in Louisiana just this century have been beyond comprehension.
Jena 6 should not be the catalyst for racial change in Louisiana and America, if anything it should have been Katrina.I'm confused. The fact that Katrina didn't get th consistency that you think it should have gotten means that you won't support the Jena 6 effort?:confused:

Pureracket
Sep 20th, 2007, 07:25 PM
I agree with what you say. I just sigh when I see incidents like this happen, but I have come to expect it from the South. It's like a whole other country down there and I am just embarrassed the people from the whole world might think of all Americans are like people from the South.Do you think that that might be the problem, though? Everytime some serious racial tension in the South, the "good" people of the US sweep it under the rug, hoping they're not going to be judged by it?

I wish people would realize that confronting racism (whether or not it means confronting their own race) doesn't mean you'll be kicked out of your plush houses and "safe" neighborhoods.

Trust me, Jena 6 is the last thing you should be worried about when it comes to America looking unfavourably to the whole world?

Rocketta
Sep 20th, 2007, 07:32 PM
Do you think that that might be the problem, though? Everytime some serious racial tension in the South, the "good" people of the US sweep it under the rug, hoping they're not going to be judged by it?

I wish people would realize that confronting racism (whether or not it means confronting their own race) doesn't mean you'll be kicked out of your plush houses and "safe" neighborhoods.

Trust me, Jena 6 is the last thing you should be worried about when it comes to America looking unfavourably to the whole world?

and what's up with this fallacy that black people only experience racism especially systemic racism in the south? :lol: Yeah, the inequities of the justice system knows no borders, it can found in every state in the union. :shrug:

Wannabeknowitall
Sep 20th, 2007, 07:38 PM
I'm confused. The fact that Katrina didn't get th consistency that you think it should have gotten means that you won't support the Jena 6 effort?:confused:

I never said that.
Just feel as usual that some aren't looking at the big picture.

What has the better liklihood of creating change in America, an aggressive stance against the way black people were treated after Katrina OR the way these black kids were treated in this hicktown?

So I support it, I just don't feel that this incident will have lasting implications compared to if this stance were taken with Katrina.

In fact I think if an aggressive stance were taken after Katrina, Jena 6 would not be going on today.
It would have never happened.

*abby*
Sep 20th, 2007, 07:50 PM
it is unbelievable that some people in here are acting like these 6 young men deserve what is happening to them.
being brown skinned (and asian looking) in england isnt easy. ive experienced bullying and verbal abuse (nothing compared to not being allowed to sit under a "white tree" or having nooses hung). unless you have experienced it you cant judge. i completely understand why those men did what they did. im not condoning it or saying they did the right thing but i understand.
attempted murder charges are just ludicrous. if some of you people cant see why then it says more about you than anything else.
how would you feel if it was your son who people were trying to lock away for life for beating someone up after an extended period of provocation?
they are young men, they made a mistake and they should be held accountable, but so should all the white boys who did similar, as well as worse, things.
as for ignoring the noose incident because of a lack of law breaking, how about inciting racial hatred or isnt that illegal?

Wannabeknowitall
Sep 20th, 2007, 07:59 PM
and what's up with this fallacy that black people only experience racism especially systemic racism in the south? :lol: Yeah, the inequities of the justice system knows no borders, it can found in every state in the union. :shrug:

That's understood but the North doesn't consider discriminations "traditions" just as an excuse to keep that discrimination.

For example, different proms for different races in the South.
Anywhere over the Mason-Dixon line, that was stopped over 25 years ago.
In parts of Louisiana and Georgia, that "tradition" was going still in this century, as of five years ago.
The incident came to head in a backwards Louisiana small town (I wonder why) :rolleyes:
.
It just seems to me, that Louisiana has one of the most perplexing racial attitudes in America and the attitudes in its small towns continue to come to head in national papers.
I just feel that if we as black people know that then why hasn't more pressure been put on the state of Louisiana to fix these retarded ideologies years ago.

samsung101
Sep 20th, 2007, 08:20 PM
Favorable or unfavorable to the 'world'?

The world where Islamic fascists are raping other Muslims who are
of other sects or national orgins.
Where 'honor' killings & assaults are daily.
Where Paris has violence and car burnings nightly from the
'youths' who largely happen not to be white and native born
French.
Where anti-Semitism is on the rise in Europe and South America.
Where native indians are kept in squalor in Mexico and South
America even now.
Where one tribe or one group is bent on killing another in many
parts of Africa as we speak - Rwanda was not the exception sad
to say.

That world?

Really don't care what the world thinks of Jena. A peaceful protest by
concerned citizens of all colors. That's good to see. I don't see anyone
burning cars or grabbing people on city buses to attack them, or shooting
innocent people going by. I see people politely and peacefully protesting.
Good.

I see a nation looking at a tough situation, news investigating it too, and
the feds waiting to see what the locals do, before considering stepping in.

Good.


I applaud the initiative of young people who made the trip to Jena to
be heard. Good for them, keep it peaceful.

But, is this all to protest the charges being too harsh or is to ask for
their release for being drawn into the attack on one man? Is it to excuse
what they did as a group to one person?

I hope it is to protest the circumstances that led to the school calling the
assembly in the first place, that led to the local cops having to be a guest in
front of the school, and to the school looking into racial matters at all. Good,
if that's the key.

I put blame on the school officials above all else in how this grew into a bigger
situation. That doesn't excuse a gang attack on one guy. Jerk or racist or not,
6 to 1 is not a fair fight.


Sorry, I can't support dropping the charges. Nor can I excuse what 6 intelligent
young men did to one man who was obviously stupid to be there, or to have taunted
them in any way. 6 to 1 is not a fight, that's a cowardly attack. They deserve
to be tried. On what, I'm not sure. Attempted murder? I don't know 6 to 1, the
guys down already, likely bloody and out of it, and they kept attacking him. What
else can you call that?


Again, imagine these young men get the same sentence the Long Beach attackers got
for beating two white women earlier this year. A slap on the wrist.

Pureracket
Sep 20th, 2007, 08:22 PM
I never said that.
Just feel as usual that some aren't looking at the big picture.

What has the better liklihood of creating change in America, an aggressive stance against the way black people were treated after Katrina OR the way these black kids were treated in this hicktown?

So I support it, I just don't feel that this incident will have lasting implications compared to if this stance were taken with Katrina.

In fact I think if an aggressive stance were taken after Katrina, Jena 6 would not be going on today.
It would have never happened.I can't disagree with that fact. I think much, much more should've been done with Katrina, especially by people who advocate equality. Sorry I misunderstood you.

nhissan
Sep 20th, 2007, 08:47 PM
I wish some of you all would read more about the case before you spout off.

Please read this link before being snarky.

http://www.minglecity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=996 (http://www.minglecity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=996)

If even half the stuff being alleged is true, and I've followed the case closely enough to believe that a lot of it is, then that DA needs to be strung up by his balls

And you do realize that several white kids committed similar offenses in this situation and were charged with NOTHING? Do you realize that this was an all white jury that's trying these kids?

http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/7170510

...OK, having said that, much of the mainstream reporting on this story has been misleading, irresponsible and inflammatory.

No one mentions that Mychal Bell's clueless public defender was black. No one mentions that there were no black jurors because of the 50 people who responded to the more than 100 summons, none were black. No one mentions that Bell was already on probation for battery relating to a Christmas day incident in 2005. No one mentions that Bell was adjudicated (convicted) of two other violent crimes in 2006 and one charge of criminal damage to property. No one mentions that Bell's father acknowledged he moved back to Louisiana in February (after seven years in Dallas) to supervise his son because of the "Jena Six" mess. No one mentions that Bell starred on the Jena High football team while constantly jeopardizing/violating his seemingly flimsy probation.

This was all talked about in open court during a bond hearing for Bell, and a newspaper in Alexandria, La., wrote about it. Just about everybody else has pretty much ignored the "other side" of the story. Including the fact that not one witness — black or white, and there were 40 statements taken — connected the jumping/beatdown of the white student (Dec. 4) to the noose incident (Sept. 1).

No one mentions that a black U.S. Attorney, Donald Washington, investigated the "Jena Six" case and held a town-hall meeting explaining that there was no evidence connecting the jumping/beatdown to the noose incident.

read the entire article it's really good

Pureracket
Sep 20th, 2007, 08:49 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/7170510



read the entire article it's really goodFox? :haha:

nhissan
Sep 20th, 2007, 08:56 PM
yeah Fox :shrug:

ttaM
Sep 20th, 2007, 09:02 PM
Fox? :haha:
Fox Sports isn't related in any way to the Fox News Channel. If it was, it wouldn't be on MSN.

The article was interesting, nhissan.

Pureracket
Sep 20th, 2007, 09:07 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/7170510



read the entire article it's really goodRead it. The article smacks to the right with the same red herring effect that almost all of Fox's supporters do. His juvenile record does not effect the situation. The fact that no Black people(which is ludicrous) responded still doesn't make it racist....LOL!!!!! Let me get this right, if no Black people are on the jury, then it's okay for an all white jury to convict a Black male? Nice. That goes for his "clueless" Public Defender....blah, blah, blah.

tta is right. It is a rather interesting article. It only shows that a racist machine can consist of people of all races.

woosey
Sep 20th, 2007, 09:08 PM
I'm wearing all purple today. :lol:

I just don't get it. When has Louisiana ever been racially just? NEVER.

When Katrina happened, the NAACP and other minority organizations should have kept their asses in Louisiana and kept the pressure on the state of Louisiana.

Katrina was not just a federal issue, it was a disaster that showed the that infrastructure of the government from locally to federal was just fucked up.

I'm for change but I'm not seeing consistentcy.
Why pick this one as a battleground when something like Katrina was the WAR.

The racial issues that have been in Louisiana just this century have been beyond comprehension.
Jena 6 should not be the catalyst for racial change in Louisiana and America, if anything it should have been Katrina.

oh lawd hab mercy, i agree with you again. my family happens to be from the new orleans area. katrina was a travesty, an effing disgrace. and it continues to be.

i still however am supportive of the jena 6 issue. having said that, i think that black people are particularly sensitive to the way we, particularly black males, are treated in the criminal justice system and for good reason. if your justice system is jackin you, well, that makes you pretty vulnerable to most forms of mistreatment - whether it's job discrimination, housing discrimination, etc.

but, i do think we tend to focus a great deal of attention (too much i'm thinking) on black males who are done wrong. we are very sensitive to how black males are treated. now that black lady who was kept in a house and beaten and raped and received racial insults in the carolinas i believe, we don't care so much. i think because we don't care so much when black women are mistreated. i wish we were coming to her defense - but again, there hasn't been an indication that the criminal just system is malfunctioning.

for me, i believe black folk should protest over the education system. that is a daily attack on black people. i'm someone who wasn't up in arms over the school "segregation" cases recently. i happen to believe that we should be able to offer all children a quality education even if they are poor, black and live in the hood.

but, we choose to fixate on black males and the justice system. it's not my preference though. i see both sides.

ttaM
Sep 20th, 2007, 09:54 PM
Wait a minute!

I am now hearing that the white kid who got jumped had pulled out a shotgun from his truck, and it was at that point the black kids jumped him, not because he was teasing them for getting beat up by white kids.

It seems like a lot of articles aren't adding that tidbit, if it's true. :confused:

woosey
Sep 20th, 2007, 09:55 PM
Wait a minute!

I am now hearing that the white kid who got jumped had pulled out a shotgun from his truck, and it was at that point the black kids jumped him, not because he was teasing them for getting beat up by white kids.

It seems like a lot of articles aren't adding that tidbit, if it's true. :confused:

where did you hear that?

link please.

ico4498
Sep 20th, 2007, 10:08 PM
http://www.colorofchange.org/jena/message.html

"The next day, black students at a convenience store were threatened by a young white man with a shotgun. They wrestled the gun from him and ran away. While no charges were filed against the white man, the students were arrested for the theft of the gun."

if true thats cold.

Crazy Canuck
Sep 20th, 2007, 10:33 PM
a. the kids committed a cowardly act and should be punished.

b. the punishment didn't fit the actual crime.

c. Me is wearing black.

d. I hope today's rally is successful, peaceful and leads to more efforts to shine a light on injustice in small towns and big cities all over the USA. :)



Being right all the time gets exhausting, doesn't it?

Totally agree with points a, b, and d. There's nothing wrong with c, but I'd be lying to say that I wore black today ;)

nhissan
Sep 21st, 2007, 10:38 AM
Wait a minute!

I am now hearing that the white kid who got jumped had pulled out a shotgun from his truck, and it was at that point the black kids jumped him, not because he was teasing them for getting beat up by white kids.

It seems like a lot of articles aren't adding that tidbit, if it's true. :confused:

yeah it's true this story so the article I posted was full of shit :tape:

GoDominique
Sep 21st, 2007, 11:00 AM
Rocky, some people are just plain and simply an exercise in futility…they have their agenda...just one big ole waste of time
:haha:

If one person on this board has her agenda then it is our good ol' Crocketta whom your post was directed at.

Oh the irony.

Infiniti2001
Sep 21st, 2007, 01:00 PM
yeah it's true this story so the article I posted was full of shit :tape:

Yes it's full of shit!! This has absolutely nothing to do with his pass record. Bottom-line he was a juvenile who committed what amounts to a misdemeanor in most jurisdictions and should have been charged as such. Why can't you get that people are outraged because of the excessive charges?

samsung101
Sep 21st, 2007, 03:23 PM
I'd like to see some light on the serious black v. brown hatred
in the public schools, and in the streets, of Los Angeles. Where
a young black man was shot to death in Covina for being black, by
hispanic gang members. Their goal is to kill black people, that's it.
It wasn't a turf war or a personal spat between two guys.

Sadly, that situation will only worsen as more illegal aliens and
legal aliens move there from Central America, where crime and gangs
and racism is rampant.

There is unrest every day in LA schools, and it's covered up by and large.
Where is Jesse?
Where is Al?

Won't show up here for that. The LA City and County govt. is run by
hispanic and black politicians, and no one wants to cause a stir.
Is anyone going to take on Mayor Antonio and the lazy City Council?
No, they're voting on Iraq instead right now. Even though they have
no reason to.


-------

The charges were reduced for all of these young men, but one, already.
The one had his case sent back for lesser charges by the State Supreme
Court (or appellate court) too. So, what are they protesting about really?

Many of these young men had previous criminal records, which also led to the
harshness of their charges.

The school itself did suspend the white kids they felt did the noose thing.
They did the right thing.
The school board overruled the principal.
They were wrong to do that, and all should be recalled immediately.
They should be the target of the protest.

Every single one who voted to rescind the suspension of the white kids
should be removed asap.



No one filed a federal hate crime report or case, from the individuals or
the school or the city or school board.That was wrong too. But, even the
Justice Dept. said that likely no one would have been charged there either -
because as a rule, they don't charge minors with hate crimes.

But, 6 on 1 beating and kicking and hitting a man already unconscious, what
else is that but attempted murder. Once down and out, they should have just
left.

These are not six choir boys. They are not falsely charged. They may be over charged
in some views. But, they should be punished for what they did to one young man.Who
may be the biggest jerk in town, but, that's no excuse to try to kill him.

brickhousesupporter
Sep 21st, 2007, 03:34 PM
I'd like to see some light on the serious black v. brown hatred
in the public schools, and in the streets, of Los Angeles. Where
a young black man was shot to death in Covina for being black, by
hispanic gang members. Their goal is to kill black people, that's it.
It wasn't a turf war or a personal spat between two guys.

Sadly, that situation will only worsen as more illegal aliens and
legal aliens move there from Central America, where crime and gangs
and racism is rampant.

There is unrest every day in LA schools, and it's covered up by and large.
Where is Jesse?
Where is Al?

Won't show up here for that. The LA City and County govt. is run by
hispanic and black politicians, and no one wants to cause a stir.
Is anyone going to take on Mayor Antonio and the lazy City Council?
No, they're voting on Iraq instead right now. Even though they have
no reason to.


-------

The charges were reduced for all of these young men, but one, already.
The one had his case sent back for lesser charges by the State Supreme
Court (or appellate court) too. So, what are they protesting about really?

Many of these young men had previous criminal records, which also led to the
harshness of their charges.

The school itself did suspend the white kids they felt did the noose thing.
They did the right thing.
The school board overruled the principal.
They were wrong to do that, and all should be recalled immediately.
They should be the target of the protest.

Every single one who voted to rescind the suspension of the white kids
should be removed asap.



No one filed a federal hate crime report or case, from the individuals or
the school or the city or school board.That was wrong too. But, even the
Justice Dept. said that likely no one would have been charged there either -
because as a rule, they don't charge minors with hate crimes.

But, 6 on 1 beating and kicking and hitting a man already unconscious, what
else is that but attempted murder. Once down and out, they should have just
left.

These are not six choir boys. They are not falsely charged. They may be over charged
in some views. But, they should be punished for what they did to one young man.Who
may be the biggest jerk in town, but, that's no excuse to try to kill him.

Samsung why do you insist on overlooking the lack of charges against the white students that attacked them with a gun. Or the inappropriate actions of the District Attorney. Do you not have an opinion on that?

winone23
Sep 21st, 2007, 04:28 PM
Where is the punishment for the white kids that beat up the black kids prior to this incident? Should there lives be ruined because of a school yard fight? At what point do we hold the school system accountable for allowing this to escalate? Can you justify what the DA said to these kids prior to the fight when they were holding a legal protest? "I'll ruin your lives with one stroke of my pen" I cant believe some of you people...punish? Maybe...but decades behind bars for a schoolyard fight? GET REAL...:rolleyes:

:worship: :worship: :clap2: :clap2:

mykarma
Sep 21st, 2007, 11:25 PM
As long as it is peaceful, I applaud the young people who were there, took the time to
participate.


The charges against some of the young men were too harsh.

But, the charges against the young men should be made.
It isn't racial equality to have several young men beat, kick,hit,
mame, one single guy. That's just a mob attack. That could have
led to death easily.

The school and city officials should have stepped in sooner to do more,
to try to offset a growth in the incident of racial tensions. Yes, they
messed up badly in my view. The group or kids who likely did the noose
stuff should have been punished, it should have been addressed better.
The police were wrong in how they handled it before it got out of hand too.



However, none of that is an excuse for what the young men did to this one young
guy.

That's not a fight. It's just a gang attack. They deserve punishment.

Oddly, there have been many interviews saying the racial tension in the town was not
a problem for most adults - black and white. There were and are pockets of it only.
Cliques in school, shocking isn't it.
However, I do wonder why Jackson and Sharpton did not bother to do anything like this when
the LA schools were and are regularly shut down, locked down, because of black and hispanic
racial hatred and attacks. This happens in high school, jr. high, and elementary schools in
LA rather regularly. Not a peep from the two.

What of the outrage over two white women beaten by a group of young black attackers on a Halloween
night two years ago in Long Beach? There have been other black on white attacks in the South Bay
for years.

Where is the protest?


Sharpton and Jackson were front and center in the Duke Rape case too.
Tawana Brawley fake rape case as well years ago.
Their credability is little to zero.
Depending on who you listen to there were tens of thousands of people of all races at the match so why is so important to talk about Rev. Jackson and Sharpton? This match is about injustice and it shouldn't matter what the race of the kids are. Speaking of credibility, you don't have any either.

mykarma
Sep 21st, 2007, 11:29 PM
The victim was out of the hospital the following day, so it's rather difficult for me to believe he was beaten almost to death.
He was out of the hospital 3 hours later and went to an affair that same evening. Hell, everyone knows that it takes that long to see a doctor.

harloo
Sep 22nd, 2007, 12:10 AM
He was out of the hospital 3 hours later and went to an affair that same evening. Hell, everyone knows that it takes that long to see a doctor.

I saw pictures of the "victim" and he had a few bruises on his face. From the way some people react you would think the guy was brutally tortured. It was indeed wrong of the young men to jump him, but this was a school yard fight. It happens in schools all the time, the crime just doesn't fit the punishment. I can't even understand how anyone would justify the actions of the DA and all-white jury in this case. :o

mykarma
Sep 22nd, 2007, 12:37 AM
well I'm wearing black pants but I didn't know we were suppose to wear black today. :tape:
I wore all black.

mykarma
Sep 22nd, 2007, 12:43 AM
http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/7170510



read the entire article it's really good
What does any of that article have to do with injustice, not just for Mychal but for poor people in general?

No Name Face
Sep 22nd, 2007, 01:22 AM
i wore black dress pants to work today, but that wasn't intentional.

to be honest, i've never been much about wearing colors for solidarity...i don't feel have to prove how black i am or if i'm with a particular cause by the clothes i wear.

and i mean, i live in a pretty black neighborhood in brooklyn right now and i didn't see anyone wearing all black.

i do feel for the issue though and i hope for the sake of race relations that we get an agreeable conclusion.

harloo
Sep 23rd, 2007, 08:03 PM
http://i18.tinypic.com/4u9toht.jpg

Does this look like someone who was nearly beaten to death? The bruises are typical of a school yard fight and while I don't advocate violence the attempted murder charges were outrageous.

mykarma
Sep 24th, 2007, 12:23 AM
i wore black dress pants to work today, but that wasn't intentional.

to be honest, i've never been much about wearing colors for solidarity...i don't feel have to prove how black i am or if i'm with a particular cause by the clothes i wear.

and i mean, i live in a pretty black neighborhood in brooklyn right now and i didn't see anyone wearing all black.

i do feel for the issue though and i hope for the sake of race relations that we get an agreeable conclusion.
Wearing black had nothing to do with the color of one's skin it had to do with support of the Jena 6. Anyhow, a lot of people are just finding out about this, as you know it wasn't on main stream media.

RunDown
Sep 24th, 2007, 12:37 AM
FBI investigates supremacist anti-'Jena 6' Web site

Story Highlights

Web site purports to list addresses of some members of the "Jena 6"

CNN first reported the Web site, which features swastika, uses racial slurs

The "Jena 6" are six black teens accused of beating a white student in Jena

The site lists phone numbers "in case anyone wants to deliver justice"



NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (AP) -- The FBI is reviewing a white supremacist Web site that purports to list the addresses of five of the six black teenagers accused of beating a white student in Jena and "essentially called for their lynching," an agency spokeswoman said Saturday.


The Web site features a swastika and frequent use of racial slurs.

Sheila Thorne, an agent in the FBI's New Orleans office, said authorities were reviewing whether the site breaks any federal laws. She said the FBI had "gathered intelligence on the matter," but declined to further explain how the agency got involved.

CNN first reported Friday about the Web site, which features a swastika, frequent use of racial slurs, a mailing address in Roanoke, Virginia, and phone numbers purportedly for some of the teens' families "in case anyone wants to deliver justice." That page is dated Thursday.

The Rev. Al Sharpton said in a statement Saturday that some of the families have received "almost around the clock calls of threats and harassment," and called on Gov. Kathleen Blanco to intervene.

A Blanco spokeswoman said the governor had asked law enforcement -- primarily state police -- to investigate. Watch seemingly menacing acts online and on the streets »

"These people need more than an investigation. They need protection," the Rev. Jesse Jackson said. He said his organization would be in touch with President Bush's nominee for attorney general, Michael Mukasey.

"This is a test for the disposition of the Department of Justice to serve as an intervener and a deterrent" to hate crimes and discrimination, Jackson said. He said federal marshals should protect the families.

Carolas Purvis, whose number was among three listed on the Web site, said she did not feel in danger. Purvis is the aunt of Bryant Purvis, who has yet to be arraigned. She said she has received a number of calls, some from people who say nothing, others to let her know that her number had been put on the site. One, Friday night, used the N-word to her young son, she said.

A dispatcher for the LaSalle Parish Sheriff's Department said no one in the office Saturday could say whether any threats had been reported.

Of the two other numbers listed as "active" on the Web site, one was not answered Saturday; the other yielded a constant busy signal.

On Thursday, thousands of demonstrators marched in a civil rights demonstration in support of the so-called "Jena 6." The six black teens were arrested after a December attack on a white student -- the culmination of fights between blacks and whites.

Of the six teens arrested, five initially were charged with attempted second-degree murder; charges for four have been reduced as they were arraigned. Charges against the sixth teen, booked as a juvenile, are sealed.

Mychal Bell is the only one to have been tried so far. A state appeals court recently threw out his conviction for aggravated second-degree battery, saying he couldn't be tried as an adult. He remained in jail pending an appeal.

William A. "Bill" White, listed as the Web site's editor and commander of the American National Socialist Workers Party, did not immediately answer an e-mail to his address. Calls to one of the two William Whites listed in Roanoke were not answered; the other said he was not involved with the site.


Blanco said Saturday that harassing families involved in the case "cannot and will not be tolerated."

"Public attacks on private citizens done out of ignorance and hatred is appalling, and anyone who stoops to such unspeakable persecution will be investigated and subject to the full penalty of law," she said in a statement.

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/09/23/fbi.jena.ap/index.html