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drake3781
Sep 19th, 2007, 05:29 AM
I'm really looking forward to it! :D

Starts Wednesday at 8 Eastern and Pacific
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40 Kids for 40 days with no grown-ups. Can they do it?
40 Kids have 40 days to build a brave new world without adults to help or hinder their efforts. Can they do it? These Kids, ages 8-15, will turn a ghost town into their new home. They will cook their own meals, clean their own outhouses, haul their own water and even run their own businesses including the old town saloon (root beer only). Through it all, they'll cope with regular childhood emotions and situations: homesickness, peer pressure and the urge to break every rule they've ever known.
Will they stick it out? In the end, will these Kids prove to everyone, including their parents, they have the vision to build a better world than the pioneers who came before them? And just as importantly, will they come together as a cohesive unit, or will they abandon all responsibility and succumb to the childhood temptations that lead to round-the-clock chaos? Don't miss this intriguing series.

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Kid profiles and video at this link.

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/kid_nation/

Apoleb
Sep 19th, 2007, 05:36 AM
It's ridiculous. I'm certainly not going to watch it. "Child abuse" might be too much of a word, but I do believe that getting on a reality show should be done for people who can actually give consent. One can only imagine the possible pressure that the parents might have put on them, and it's something that could taint them for years to follow. It will ofcourse depend a lot on how it is directed and what will they exactly show, but still.

Drake1980
Sep 19th, 2007, 05:13 PM
I'll be watching:)

Sally Struthers
Sep 19th, 2007, 05:27 PM
I'll be watching. Hopefully it will turn into a Lord of the Flies type situation and make for interesting TV. :devil:

However, I have the feeling they're going to make it "inspirational" and it will turn out cheesy.

Scotso
Sep 19th, 2007, 08:00 PM
I'll watch. :lol:

Sally Struthers
Sep 20th, 2007, 01:29 AM
punk ass blue team! :fiery: :mad: :armed:

dybbuk
Sep 20th, 2007, 01:31 AM
No. I hate children. :)

Sally Struthers
Sep 20th, 2007, 01:37 AM
omg i hate the blue team. Go red :D

Sally Struthers
Sep 20th, 2007, 02:04 AM
i was pleasantly surprised. I don't think sofia should have gotten the prize though. All she did was complain when the young kids made a better meal than her.

drake3781
Sep 20th, 2007, 02:29 AM
I loved it! Really, really good!! Those kids are amazing, and I don't even like kids.

Sally Struthers
Sep 20th, 2007, 02:33 AM
and I don't even like kids.

me neither and i liked it too :haha:

drake3781
Sep 20th, 2007, 02:39 AM
punk ass blue team! :fiery: :mad: :armed:

Greg is going to turn out to be a really good kid. He was the one that roped the goat at the very beginning, pushed the wagon so much on the road, and offered to support Jimmy. (I wish Jimmy would have stayed....... :sad: , even two more days, then he could leave if it didn't get easier.)


omg i hate the blue team. Go red :D

Red are the "middle class". I think that is going to turn out to be a bad position. Better to be a worker.


i was pleasantly surprised. I don't think sofia should have gotten the prize though. All she did was complain when the young kids made a better meal than her.

She did a lot or else they wouldn't have picked her. They had to show some problems or else it would look too easy. I liked her........ :shrug:



The one kid that seems the greatest so far is Laurel (on town council),

Glad you like it too! :D

drake3781
Sep 20th, 2007, 02:41 AM
It's ridiculous. I'm certainly not going to watch it. "Child abuse" might be too much of a word, but I do believe that getting on a reality show should be done for people who can actually give consent. One can only imagine the possible pressure that the parents might have put on them, and it's something that could taint them for years to follow. It will ofcourse depend a lot on how it is directed and what will they exactly show, but still.

Would you watch the first episode or two before taking such a strong position? Please? ;)

Sally Struthers
Sep 20th, 2007, 02:44 AM
I was hoping red would be upper class and blue would be the workers to set up more drama instead of red being upper and blue the class below :lol:

and they should have taken the TV just to entertain me more :haha:

kittyking
Sep 20th, 2007, 02:45 AM
Do I want to see a child drink bleach which he thinks is soda....

um no

I wont be watching it, thankfully TVNZ has decided not to air it on TV in New Zealand anyway

Scotso
Sep 20th, 2007, 03:10 AM
I think Sofia deserved it. She's also very pretty. :D

I liked most of them, and I think they're doing better in the situation than adults would. Greg and Blaine are annoying, but no doubt they'll act better now that they know they can win money. Dicks.

Scotso
Sep 20th, 2007, 03:11 AM
Do I want to see a child drink bleach which he thinks is soda....

um no

I wont be watching it, thankfully TVNZ has decided not to air it on TV in New Zealand anyway

That's a pretty stupid comment. I really couldn't care less that you aren't going to watch, but commenting on the intelligence of people you don't know is pretty ridiculous.

iPatty
Sep 20th, 2007, 03:53 AM
i wanted to watch but got stuck with an english project. :(

sucks that there's some kid named greg on there that's tarnishing my name. :fiery: his age?

stevos
Sep 20th, 2007, 03:58 AM
Greg is one of the older, punkier boys. Kind of the antagonist right now, the strong kid.

Mike is the type of kid that would really annoy me. Sophia I like a lot and I think deserved it. She did give them props saying their meal was "delicious".

All in all, this show is WAY better than I expected. Doesn't seem like child abuse at all, it's awesome, and I think it's doing a lot more good than bad.
I really want to see a usurption of the town council. :devil:

These kids are awesome, but I'm going to miss Jimmy. :sobbing:

Sally Struthers
Sep 20th, 2007, 04:01 AM
sophia was ok besides "prostituting" herself out so to speak to get the bike .. and throwing the pot of pasta on the ground... and then bitching when the little kids cooked better than her :lol:

geoepee
Sep 20th, 2007, 04:15 AM
sophia was ok besides "prostituting" herself out so to speak to get the bike .. and throwing the pot of pasta on the ground... and then bitching when the little kids cooked better than her :lol:
LOL

I loved that part with her dancing in the street for buffalo nickels, lmao

"All you need are these three dance moves..."

Who else here is in love Jared! He's the best! "This is the worst day that I've had in 3 years!" LOL. What is he? 9? He's the funniest to me...

and I also loved when he was discussing the outhouse situation....."i hope i don't have to poo!"


All in all, pretty intelligent group of kids. I'm hooked! Can't wait til next week...

geoepee
Sep 20th, 2007, 04:17 AM
Oh, speaking of Greg, I loved it when he asked lil' Jimmy if he wanted to be his 'wingman' :rollseyes: and Jimmy said no :lol:

Wigglytuff
Sep 20th, 2007, 04:20 AM
not watching this crap, for many reasons, not least of which are that i dont like children and i dont like reality tv.

drake3781
Sep 20th, 2007, 04:24 AM
LOL

Who else here is in love Jared! He's the best! "This is the worst day that I've had in 3 years!" LOL. What is he? 9? He's the funniest to me...

and I also loved when he was discussing the outhouse situation....."i hope i don't have to poo!"


All in all, pretty intelligent group of kids. I'm hooked! Can't wait til next week...

And somebody said something about his colon....:lol: . Some parts were really funny. :p

drake3781
Sep 20th, 2007, 04:27 AM
Greg is one of the older, punkier boys. Kind of the antagonist right now, the strong kid.

Mike is the type of kid that would really annoy me. Sophia I like a lot and I think deserved it. She did give them props saying their meal was "delicious".

All in all, this show is WAY better than I expected. Doesn't seem like child abuse at all, it's awesome, and I think it's doing a lot more good than bad.
I really want to see a usurption of the town council. :devil:

These kids are awesome, but I'm going to miss Jimmy. :sobbing:


I was really impressed with Mike. I bet he will end up on Council.

stevos
Sep 20th, 2007, 04:44 AM
And somebody said something about his colon....:lol: . Some parts were really funny. :p
:lol: Yeah, I laughed at that part too.
I was really impressed with Mike. I bet he will end up on Council.

I was talking about the Mike already on council. Are you talking about the guy who gave the two speeches?

Scotso
Sep 20th, 2007, 06:26 AM
Mike is the annoying guy on the council that cries about everything.

Michael is the guy that made the speeches and seems like a pretty smart kid. Michael and Sophia (Sofia?) should definitely be on the council.

Scotso
Sep 20th, 2007, 06:32 AM
Sophia I like a lot and I think deserved it. She did give them props saying their meal was "delicious."

I really like Sophia, she seems to have a really good head on her shoulders. Yes, she's a bit bossy, but everything she says is completely true. Someone has to take a leadership position since the "council" is so weak.

All in all, this show is WAY better than I expected. Doesn't seem like child abuse at all, it's awesome, and I think it's doing a lot more good than bad.
I really want to see a usurption of the town council. :devil:

I want to see Sophia cause the downfall of the council, too. :lol: Aside from Greg and Blaine, who just seem like idiots that are abusing their size, and Mike, who is just annoying, I like almost all of them. I like the one girl that leads the yellow team, I forget her name, but her comment about not doing dishes because she's a beauty queen made me want to smack her. Although I think it was Greg that diagnosed that one kid's leg problem, and then helped him out. He seems to act like a spoiled teenager a lot, but deep down I think he has a lot of heart.

I don't think it's child abuse, either. People making that claim did so knowing almost nothing about the show. The children are allowed to leave whenever they want. I actually think this would do kids a lot of good. It's going to make them more independent and allow them to cope with situations better. It seems like a good experience. The only thing I don't really like about the show thus far is that they separated them into permanent groups, which I think they only did to cause fighting and chaos. But even so, they still seem to all get along and were even cheering for each other. You don't see the adults on "Survivor" doing that.

So far it's a pretty good show, I think that it could be a big hit if enough people will give it a chance. Definitely better than Pirate Master. :lol: :help:

These kids are awesome, but I'm going to miss Jimmy. :sobbing:

Yes, it seems like they picked a pretty intelligent group of kids and not just any bloke off the street. But I do think that almost any kid would be better in this situation than adults. Kids have a lot more perspective. :lol: I'll miss Jimmy, too, but he's 8, so I understand his decision. Frankly, I'm extremely surprised only one kid left.

Scotso
Sep 20th, 2007, 06:34 AM
sophia was ok besides "prostituting" herself out so to speak to get the bike .. and throwing the pot of pasta on the ground... and then bitching when the little kids cooked better than her :lol:

She didn't bitch about them cooking better, not at all. What else could you do with that pasta? It was ruined. She played no part in ruining it. She simply took charge. And I think pimping herself out for money was a good idea. Isn't she on the laborer team? She gets 10 cents. Her little performance netted her $3. Smart girl. Only I wish she had encouraged people to pool their money and buy things that would really help the group.

I was terrified that the kids might pick the T.V. Mike seems like a real geek, he lacks social skills, so it's no wonder he loves television.

Scotso
Sep 20th, 2007, 06:43 AM
They have pretty interesting biographies of the kids on the webpage. Michael's answers to the questions are really witty, informed, and often funny.

drake3781
Sep 20th, 2007, 06:53 AM
Yeah, I meant Michael. So my faves right now are Michael, Lauren, and, yes, Greg.

RJWCapriati
Sep 20th, 2007, 06:55 AM
I won't be watching its sounds plain stupid to me......I'm sure child predators will absolutely love the concept though.

geoepee
Sep 20th, 2007, 07:04 AM
I won't be watching its sounds plain stupid to me......I'm sure child predators will absolutely love the concept though.
I don't understand those comments. There's nothing about this show that's remotely sexual in nature...

you may think the concept is stupid,...but child predators?? seriously?

there's children on barney and on the disney channel, they'll love those shows as well, right?

Scotso
Sep 20th, 2007, 07:04 AM
I won't be watching its sounds plain stupid to me......I'm sure child predators will absolutely love the concept though.

Another retarded comment. People are on fire in the thread.

sfselesfan
Sep 20th, 2007, 09:14 AM
Cute show. Worth checking out. Survivor for kids, without the vote offs.

SF

Apoleb
Sep 20th, 2007, 03:19 PM
Would you watch the first episode or two before taking such a strong position? Please? ;)

It's something that I felt very strong about from the moment I've read about the show. Regardeless of how it's done, I would never approve of an 8 year old getting on a reality show. Oh, and I hate reality TV in general.

¤CharlDa¤
Sep 20th, 2007, 09:40 PM
I really liked the show got teary eyed at numerous moments to be honest, but I'm an emotionnal wreck.

smarties
Sep 21st, 2007, 12:33 AM
I was really pleasantly surprised, I was really on the edge of my seat waiting to see what was gonna happen next. Great casting, those kids are really bright and put a lot of adults to shame.

¤CharlDa¤
Sep 21st, 2007, 02:01 AM
BTW....

How about cameramen? There sure are many of them around those kids, no?

RunDown
Sep 21st, 2007, 03:30 AM
Eh...I was kinda bored most of the show, but stuck with it till the end. I guess it was alright, but I can't see making any efforts to watch it each week. :shrug:

juki
Sep 21st, 2007, 03:52 AM
This was a lot better then I thought it would be, they really picked some great kids. Especially Sophia, her online interview on CBS shows that she is smarter then most adults :eek:

The only thing I'm worried about is that the show will only focus on the same kids the whole time, and push all the others into the background.

stevos
Sep 21st, 2007, 04:25 AM
Apoleb and RJWCapriati :rolleyes: :weirdo:

WTF? You clearly haven't seen the show.

And CD, someone in my class asked the same thing, about the cameramen. They also said that there were people there cooking for them, but he hadn't seen the show.

Scotso
Sep 21st, 2007, 01:30 PM
This was a lot better then I thought it would be, they really picked some great kids. Especially Sophia, her online interview on CBS shows that she is smarter then most adults :eek:

If you think she seems smart, you should read Michael's. That kid seems really in tune with the world around him.

And I think the show will focus on the kids that push themselves to the front, as all shows do. If a kid does nothing and has no personality, there's no reason to show him/her.

Apoleb
Sep 21st, 2007, 04:36 PM
WTF? You clearly haven't seen the show.

oh wow, what an amazing discovery. :weirdo:

¤CharlDa¤
Sep 21st, 2007, 07:31 PM
I think as much as we don't want to see it, for sure there are adults in there. Legally I'm sure it isn't possible to let all those kids just play with fire and all without adult supervision. I guess that's the role of the cameramen. They probably don't talk to them, and are there just in case something clearly goes wrong or a kid just does sthing dangerous or stupid.

Tennis Fool
Sep 23rd, 2007, 02:07 AM
This show has been controversial; the state of Arizona believes producers skirted child labor laws and I believe it's in court now. Myself, I don't think I can watch child exploitation for my amusement. Would you watch the first episode or two before taking such a strong position? Please? ;)

Scotso
Sep 23rd, 2007, 02:28 AM
People who would get off their high horse and watch would see that it's pretty clear there's nothing about the show that's going to damage these kids. They seem to be enjoying it for the most part.

Everyone is "exploited," for many purposes. The people here bitching are exploiting the children, too, to serve their own agenda. Get over it.

drake3781
Sep 23rd, 2007, 03:39 AM
This show has been controversial; the state of Arizona believes producers skirted child labor laws and I believe it's in court now. Myself, I don't think I can watch child exploitation for my amusement.

OK... I really don't care if people watch it (except for Apoleb with whom I usually agree on issues), but how about this...

Watch it not for amusement but for research purposes. You have some information on which you have already formed an impression; now collect more by seeing what is actually going on there. Then you can make a more informed opinion. :shrug:

Your opinion may not change, especially as you, among others, apparently take strong positions with limited information, but it will certainly be based on a lot more information. And there is no downside to my knowledge, unless you don't think you can maintain your objectivity; (or you are a Neilsen family).

Apoleb
Sep 23rd, 2007, 04:03 AM
OK... I really don't care if people watch it (except for Apoleb with whom I usually agree on issues), but how about this...

Watch it not for amusement but for research purposes. You have some information on which you have already formed an impression; now collect more by seeing what is actually going on there. Then you can make a more informed opinion. :shrug:

Your opinion may not change, especially as you, among others, apparently take strong positions with limited information, but it will certainly be based on a lot more information. And there is no downside to my knowledge, unless you don't think you can maintain your objectivity; (or you are a Neilsen family).

As I already said, judgement of the program will depend to quite a lot of margin on how it's being done. However, I have a problem with the very basic concept, and this won't change whether I watch it or not. I oppose the idea of a minor, especially an 8 year old, getting on a reality show. The fact that people are already discussing (after one episode), who's the smart kid, who's the annoying one, who's the one getting to the background is already a bit disturbing to me. You do realize I guess that those kids are being judged by literally millions of viewers on their character and some of the more intricate things of their personal lives. This will no doubt affect their lives later on. Yet, as we all know, an 8 year old by definition cannot give consent, and it would be naive to think that in a lot of cases he/she wasn't strongly pressured by his parents/environment. If an adult is happy to expose his character and stuff in daily life to a TV audience, he/she can do that. But there should be restrictions protecting children.

Besides that, even if the show was done in the most tactful possible way, it's setting a dangerous precedent. It's opening the way for more reality shows to use children. Not to mention that we already know that there have been quite serious issues with the contract the producers signed with the parents.
I really do hope that the producers lose the lawsuit.

And before anyone jumps on my back, I'm not writing this to spoil the show for those who like it. I just responded to the thread question, and it's something I feel quite strongly about.

UDACHi
Sep 23rd, 2007, 04:34 AM
it seems really really weird and sketchy to me, but finding out that there is actually a plot makes it a tad more interesting.
someone explain the teams, council, etc. please

juki
Sep 23rd, 2007, 04:59 AM
UDACHI, right now the council is made of 4 kids. They were selected by the producers before the show because of their leadership qualities (class president, boy scout, etc). They can probably be voted out or overthrown or something but for now everyone is happy with them. At each town hall meeting, the council choose someone who worked the hardest, and they get a gold star, which also gets them $20,000 (for school).

Each of the 4 kids lead a team. They chose the team themselves, grouping friends, people similar in age. The teams compete in challenges to determine which team works what jobs (kitchen, merchants, upper class). Each job gets them a certain amount of money that they can use to buy something in the town stores (candy,games, tools, etc). Also if they all the teams complete the challenge the town can get a reward, they first episode had a choice between a TV and outhouses.

No one is every voted out, and I'm not sure how the town council can be changed, if they want them to be overthrown. I might be missing something, but that is basically how it works.

No Name Face
Sep 23rd, 2007, 01:38 PM
It's solid. I like it. A welcome additions to "shows I will DVR and watch over the course of the weekend because I'm so busy working and studying during the week."

Sally Struthers
Sep 27th, 2007, 01:18 AM
omg.. poor chicken... I like chicken but I like to think it comes prepackaged in styrofoam and plastic as in the grocery store :angel:

geoepee
Sep 27th, 2007, 05:15 AM
Taylor, still sitting on her butt....

Did anyone else love it when DK told Taylor to 'shut her disrespectful mouth'? :lol: He deserves the gold star just for that quote alone! :lol:

Sally Struthers
Sep 27th, 2007, 06:06 AM
taylor is just such a little brat... I'm tempted to use the other B word but sh'es just a child so I'll reserve it for now :lol:

The kind of chubby girl who locked herself in with the chickens looks to be a future green peace and peta activist :lol:

drake3781
Sep 27th, 2007, 06:21 AM
taylor is just such a little brat... I'm tempted to use the other B word but sh'es just a child so I'll reserve it for now :lol:

The kind of chubby girl who locked herself in with the chickens looks to be a future green peace and peta activist :lol:

Taylor has some bad moments and some good moments.

The girl with the chickens was the one that lives on the horse farm and her mom told her to out there and be a good cowgirl. I really liked her. She didn't like them killing the chickens but she dealt with it.

Tonight's show was not all that interesting.

I miss Jimmy !!!!! :bigcry:

drake3781
Sep 27th, 2007, 06:31 AM
Taylor, still sitting on her butt....

Did anyone else love it when DK told Taylor to 'shut her disrespectful mouth'? :lol: He deserves the gold star just for that quote alone! :lol:

I haven't caught who DK is yet. I missed a little bit at the beginning of the council meeting.

The gold star thing was kinda weird this week. I can see not giving it to Greg to make sure he continues to improve and contribute. But... he CLEARLY earned it this week, not just with the chickens but other stuff like working as an upperclassman, and I was impressed that he does so much work with his dad, at his age.

And I like Michael, the one that got the star, but he didn't do anything special this week. I'd rather get an award for something I knew I did well, so I can be proud of it.

:shrug:

Sally Struthers
Sep 27th, 2007, 06:36 AM
Greg's problem is that people don't like him since he's been acting like a jerk.

Ellery
Sep 27th, 2007, 12:54 PM
Wow, Taylor can be annoying :o

Scotso
Sep 27th, 2007, 05:22 PM
My father unplugged my friggin' TiVo. :rolleyes:

geoepee
Sep 27th, 2007, 08:24 PM
My father unplugged my friggin' TiVo. :rolleyes:
Luckily CBS.com shows full episode replays! :)

¤CharlDa¤
Sep 28th, 2007, 12:34 AM
I missed it last night :sad:

Scotso
Oct 18th, 2007, 12:32 PM
I'm so happy that little bitch Taylor was ousted. :lol: