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Sam L
Sep 15th, 2007, 09:03 AM
Some of the world's top black supermodels are banding together to put pressure on the fashion industry, which they say has become increasingly racist in the past decade.
Naomi Campbell, Iman and Tyson Beckford were among those who launched the campaign against race discrimination at a rally in New York, The Guardian reported.
They were joined by models, designers and other fashion industry luminaries, who said they intended to pressure the fashion industry into acknowledging the problem.


Ms Campbell reportedly said she could no longer get on the cover of British Vogue, and had only snagged the cover of French Vogue after designer Yves Saint Laurent threatened to cut off his company from the magazine.
"Do I still want to be on the cover of British Vogue? Absolutely I do," Ms Campbell said.
"It's not because I don't sell, because I do sell — more than many of my white counterparts."
Several other speakers at the event said the fashion industry was increasingly closed to African-Americans.
"The rules have become stricter. When I first started in the business, a beautiful model of any colour could be on the cover," Ivan Bart, vice-president of IMG models, said.
The event was organised by former model and agency owner Bethann Hardison, who helped launch Ms Campbell's career.
The participants are reportedly intending to hold monthly meetings to maintain pressure on the industry.





Source: http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=296320



I actually agree. A shallow, racist, irrelevant industry. Why does it even exist? :help:

ico4498
Sep 15th, 2007, 09:14 AM
Sammy, the black advocate ...

the apocalypse is eminent.

Rocketta
Sep 15th, 2007, 12:55 PM
Sammy, the black advocate ...

the apocalypse is eminent.

:lol:

Wigglytuff
Sep 15th, 2007, 02:47 PM
Sammy, the black advocate ...

the apocalypse is eminent.

:help: :help: so true :help: :help:

Martian Willow
Sep 15th, 2007, 03:05 PM
We models are sick of being judged on the way we look. Its whats inside that counts!

Randy H
Sep 15th, 2007, 03:12 PM
Not exactly a surprise that there's discrimination in the fashion industry :p Not that I take much from Naomi's 'struggles' - She's got such a bad reputation, I am sure she's probably burned more than her fair share of bridges. But definitely, there is a lack of diversity and that's not confined solely to black models. It applies to basically anyone that isn't stick thin and white. I'm not sure what, if anything, can really be done to change that, but it's nice to at least see a few more high-profile people standing up to talk about it and attempt to make some sort of difference.

-Ph51-
Sep 15th, 2007, 03:26 PM
We models are sick of being judged on the way we look. Its whats inside that counts!

:haha:

lakeway11
Sep 15th, 2007, 04:21 PM
"I actually agree. A shallow, racist, irrelevant industry. Why does it even exist? "

i'd rather watch a shallow fashion show than a sickly (deep???) show depicting fat, lazy, ugly and dumb women about their troubles...

No Name Face
Sep 15th, 2007, 10:25 PM
I love how some posters chastise sam for posting something relevant, esp to the issues of this board. It's like you want him to be racist so you can dislike him.

anyway...
yeah, yawn...fashion sucks.

venus_rulez
Sep 15th, 2007, 11:10 PM
No, I'm not surprised either that there is racism in the fashion industry. However, I think individually not being the go to choice may not have anything to do with skin color. I'd bet a lot of money that Naomi doesn't get on magazine covers not because she's Black, but because it's been well publicized that she's a crazy bitch who'll assault you in a second.

HippityHop
Sep 15th, 2007, 11:23 PM
I'm waiting for somebody to give Naomi Campbell a good beat down. Then I might care about her concerns. :devil:

venus_rulez
Sep 15th, 2007, 11:35 PM
I'm waiting for somebody to give Naomi Campbell a good beat down. Then I might care about her concerns. :devil:

lol.

miffedmax
Sep 16th, 2007, 08:11 AM
Just to play devil's advocate, isn't it also true that a lot of models are coming out of the old East Bloc and South America these days? And that they generally work for less than models from the US and Western Europe?

I don't know a enough about the industry to say for sure, so I just raise that because I'm pretty sure I saw some article on the 'net somewhere that said there were a lot of models complaining about the glut of models from those regions.

fufuqifuqishahah
Sep 16th, 2007, 10:18 AM
" "The rules have become stricter. When I first started in the business, a beautiful model of any colour could be on the cover," Ivan Bart, vice-president of IMG models, said. ""
oh

samn
Sep 16th, 2007, 07:00 PM
I'd bet a lot of money that Naomi doesn't get on magazine covers not because she's Black, but because it's been well publicized that she's a crazy bitch who'll assault you in a second.

I'd have thought, though, that the shallow, image-obsessed, and utterly pointless fashion industry expects and thrives on such behaviour. NC may be a violent loon, but she's still an exquisitely beautiful woman, and one would expect that to override everything else in that industry.

HippityHop
Sep 16th, 2007, 07:56 PM
I'd have thought, though, that the shallow, image-obsessed, and utterly pointless fashion industry expects and thrives on such behaviour. NC may be a violent loon, but she's still an exquisitely beautiful woman, and one would expect that to override everything else in that industry.

Not necessarily. Kathleen Battle is an exquisite opera singer but eventually her craziness got to be too much and she tore her draws and got fired from the Metropolitan. :lol:

jellybelly
Sep 16th, 2007, 08:22 PM
Not hiring someone because you don't want to get a phone thrown at your face is not the same as racism.

Kart
Sep 16th, 2007, 08:28 PM
I love Naomi :hearts:.

I'd go to one of those meetings if there was a promise that she'd get violent with someone.

shap_half
Sep 16th, 2007, 10:26 PM
I love Naomi. I think she's gorgeous and 32343432 times the model Tyra ever wishes she were.

That said, I think there's definitely been quite a bit of prominent black models: Alek Wek was a huge success and so was Liya Kebede(who is beyond stunning). Nowadays, you only really have Chanel Iman, and even she's not really sitting atop the list.

I don't really think this is a question of racism. Right now the trend is Eastern Europeans -- so many of the big models come from that part of the world, with Sasha Pivovarova sitting pretty at the top.

G1Player2
Sep 16th, 2007, 10:29 PM
I love Naomi. I think she's gorgeous and 32343432 times the model Tyra ever wishes she were.

That said, I think there's definitely been quite a bit of prominent black models: Alek Wek was a huge success and so was Liya Kebede(who is beyond stunning). Nowadays, you only really have Chanel Iman, and even she's not really sitting atop the list.

I don't really think this is a question of racism. Right now the trend is Eastern Europeans -- so many of the big models come from that part of the world, with Sasha Pivovarova sitting pretty at the top.

Whatever. You hate on EVERY black contestant on ANTM so your opinion is moot when it comes to this.

shap_half
Sep 17th, 2007, 02:36 AM
Whatever. You hate on EVERY black contestant on ANTM so your opinion is moot when it comes to this.

I don't think you know how to use the word moot, please don't. It makes you sound like a complete idiot.

Oh that's right because I don't like SOME of the black contestants on ANTM means my opinion is "moot," which I don't really understand. Because ANTM is the pinnacle of the modeling industry.

Well I apologize if working in the fashion industry and going to fashion shows and photoshoots are too much experience with actual models instead of wannabes on that show. And maybe you should go visit style.com and check. The black "models" Tyra chooses to be on that show are all wrong hence why I don't think they're any good. Why don't you check the other top model shows (ie in other country). Atong, from UK's top model show, actual gets work and I saw her in a couple of shows this past season.

If you knew anything about modeling, maybe I'd listen to what you have to say. But please go ahead and base what you know on ANTM.

cheo23
Sep 17th, 2007, 05:37 AM
Source: http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=296320



I actually agree. A shallow, racist, irrelevant industry. Why does it even exist? :help:

SHOCKING to know that you Agree with LIBERAL values such as this!!!! I thought you were a BUsh-loving conservative person!!!!!!!!!!!!

samn
Sep 17th, 2007, 08:46 AM
I love Naomi :hearts:.

I'd go to one of those meetings if there was a promise that she'd get violent with someone.

So would I. As long as that someone she got violent with wasn't me.

Kart
Sep 17th, 2007, 10:45 AM
So would I. As long as that someone she got violent with wasn't me.

I'd advise leaving your mobile phone at home then ;).

samn
Sep 17th, 2007, 02:27 PM
I'd advise leaving your mobile phone at home then ;).

What? And not be able to take pictures of the lovely Naomi attacking some poor unfortunate soul as she's allegedly wont to do? I'll just have to smuggle it in.

hingisGOAT
Sep 17th, 2007, 04:50 PM
I like Naomi as a model, but... who gave that bitch permission to use the race card, considering she's been on the cover of british vogue SEVEN times?

G1Player2
Sep 18th, 2007, 02:24 AM
I don't think you know how to use the word moot, please don't. It makes you sound like a complete idiot.

Oh that's right because I don't like SOME of the black contestants on ANTM means my opinion is "moot," which I don't really understand. Because ANTM is the pinnacle of the modeling industry.

Well I apologize if working in the fashion industry and going to fashion shows and photoshoots are too much experience with actual models instead of wannabes on that show. And maybe you should go visit style.com and check. The black "models" Tyra chooses to be on that show are all wrong hence why I don't think they're any good. Why don't you check the other top model shows (ie in other country). Atong, from UK's top model show, actual gets work and I saw her in a couple of shows this past season.

If you knew anything about modeling, maybe I'd listen to what you have to say. But please go ahead and base what you know on ANTM.

:weirdo: I know exactly how to use the word moot. Do you even know the actual definition of the word? I think not.

shap_half
Sep 18th, 2007, 02:33 AM
:weirdo: I know exactly how to use the word moot. Do you even know the actual definition of the word? I think not.

Considering I prepared to go to law school, yes I do.

Wigglytuff
Sep 18th, 2007, 02:56 AM
I like Naomi as a model, but... who gave that bitch permission to use the race card, considering she's been on the cover of british vogue SEVEN times?

you are an idiot. yes racism is mitigated by the being on the cover of a mag. wow. i heard people say that racism ended with MLK, but British Vogue. thats fucking retarded.

exodus'05
Sep 18th, 2007, 04:34 AM
There have been many black models who made it in the fashion industry, however, real racism is seen when you look at struggling models.
It's not unusual for model agencies to turn someone down and say:"we already have 2 black models." the same goes for other non-white models.