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vadin124
Sep 14th, 2007, 04:46 PM
Hantuchova
Tour Titles 2
Tier 1 2
Prize Money $4,971,160
Career W-L 304-185(.622)
Highest Rank 5
Best GS Performance QF (AO, Wim, USO)
1r GS Losses 4
Head-to-Head 7

Schnyder
Tour Titles 10
Tier 1 1
Prize Money $6,299,973
Career W-L 458-291(.611)
Highest Rank 7
Best GS Performance SF (AO), QF (FO, USO)
1r GS Losses 9
Head-to-Head 8

Tied 4-4...

LCS
Sep 14th, 2007, 04:48 PM
Poll please. But Schnyder.

IMPOSSIBLE
Sep 14th, 2007, 04:48 PM
Hantuchova

vadin124
Sep 14th, 2007, 04:48 PM
damnit i forgot to add a poll

Natalicious
Sep 14th, 2007, 04:50 PM
no question, schnyder

JackFrost
Sep 14th, 2007, 04:50 PM
Schnyder for me.
But Daniela is still the better looking. ;)

IceHock
Sep 14th, 2007, 04:51 PM
just singles or what

vadin124
Sep 14th, 2007, 04:53 PM
just singles or what

just singles...

Renalicious
Sep 14th, 2007, 04:53 PM
Schnyder can take out some big names, but she's too inconsistent. Hantuchova plays solidly but her level of play can only go so far, she's not very capable of causing an upset. Schnyder for me...

switz
Sep 14th, 2007, 04:53 PM
both could have been but neither are or probably ever will be considered great. so who cares.

Patty is ahead at present but really Dani is 5 years younger and is just coming back into some sort of consistent form (for her at least). I'd expect Hantuchova to slip into a couple of GS semis/quarters and some tier I finals and end up with the better career.

Patty may go on for quite a few more years as well so who knows.

.Andrew.
Sep 14th, 2007, 04:54 PM
Patty for sure.

Daniela still has a lot of time to turn it around though ;)

Emina.
Sep 14th, 2007, 04:54 PM
tough one...Patty.

Vamos.
Sep 14th, 2007, 04:54 PM
Undoubtedly Patty.

At least she is unique.

What is even remotely special about Dani's game? :tape:

vadin124
Sep 14th, 2007, 04:57 PM
I Agree Schnyder is more talented...

Schnyder is one of the most talented ever!

But Hantuchova has reached the Top 5 in the world, Schnyder hasn't!

Sally Struthers
Sep 14th, 2007, 05:02 PM
Patty except in looks :o

justine schnyder
Sep 14th, 2007, 05:09 PM
definitelly Patty.. I know hantochova was in the top 5 but Patty is more dangerous and talented than Daniela, ho, and she also unike and such fun to watch when she is "on".. (I'm not saying that watching Hantuchova isn't fun, but someone like Patty you don't see every day..).
the problem for both is the strange losses they have all the time..

Pasta-Na
Sep 14th, 2007, 05:09 PM
patty :p because of her hairstyle :hearts:

jujufreak
Sep 14th, 2007, 05:10 PM
Schnyder for me.
But Daniela is still the better looking. ;)

:D

LeChuck
Sep 14th, 2007, 05:13 PM
Definately Patty. She has reached a grand slam semi-final, and has reached the double digit WTA title milestone. Daniela has won the Fed Cup (in 2002), but since that is a team competition, it's hard to judge where that fits in here.

jujufreak
Sep 14th, 2007, 05:14 PM
I Agree Schnyder is more talented...

Schnyder is one of the most talented ever!

But Hantuchova has reached the Top 5 in the world, Schnyder hasn't!

5 or 7... the difference isn't that important. Daniela was a bit more lucky at her best, a couple of the better players not being able to compete.

Matt01
Sep 14th, 2007, 05:19 PM
So far, it's Schnyder by a small margin because of her better Slam results, but I hope that Dani still will achieve some more things at the Slams in the future...she definately has the talent.
Dani and Patty are both headcases, though :banghead:

Shvedbarilescu
Sep 14th, 2007, 05:19 PM
I cast one very biased vote for Daniela. :rocker:

justine schnyder
Sep 14th, 2007, 05:25 PM
So far, it's Schnyder by a small margin because of her better Slam results, but I hope that Dani still will achieve some more things at the Slams in the future...she definately has the talent.
Dani and Patty are both headcases, though :banghead:

I wish they were'nt!!! :smash:

saint2
Sep 14th, 2007, 06:10 PM
Daniela. Why are so many voters for Patty? Did she won any GS or sth. like that?

Effy
Sep 14th, 2007, 06:41 PM
No doubt, Patty is greater.

Effy
Sep 14th, 2007, 06:41 PM
Daniela. Why are so many voters for Patty? Did she won any GS or sth. like that?

Did Danka win GS then?

saint2
Sep 14th, 2007, 06:46 PM
Did Danka win GS then?

Dani was in top 5 and is a higher ranked player now...I understand that someone might find Patty as a greater player, but is there a really big diffrence between those two?

Lulu.
Sep 14th, 2007, 07:16 PM
Hantuchova.

ViennaCalling
Sep 14th, 2007, 07:17 PM
Of course Patty.

borisyBACK
Sep 14th, 2007, 07:20 PM
Patty is much greater. But at this stage in their careers, they both gave up really.

saint2
Sep 14th, 2007, 07:21 PM
Patty is much greater. But at this stage in their careers, they both gave up really.


Why do you think Patty is much greater?

AnnaK_4ever
Sep 14th, 2007, 07:22 PM
Dani was in top 5 and is a higher ranked player now...I understand that someone might find Patty as a greater player, but is there a really big diffrence between those two?

Hantuchova was No.5 for six weeks only. Had she been Top-5 fixture for several months at least it could have changed something.

borisyBACK
Sep 14th, 2007, 07:24 PM
Why do you think Patty is much greater?

GS semi, much more talent and a few times she has been mentioned as one of the favourites to win slams by the experts (RG mostly). Daniela never reached a level that made people predict that she can win one.

saint2
Sep 14th, 2007, 07:27 PM
GS semi, much more talent and a few times she has been mentioned as one of the favourites to win slams by the experts (RG mostly). Daniela never reached a level that made people predict that she can win one.

-Likho was in GS semi too as I remember. Is she greater than Dani?
-Maybe Patty is talented...But wasted talent means nothing.
-I dont remember if someone mentioned Schnyder as a GS favourite...Did I miss something?

borisyBACK
Sep 14th, 2007, 07:28 PM
Just checked, they are both 0-9 against Venus tho :help:

ViennaCalling
Sep 14th, 2007, 07:36 PM
-Likho was in GS semi too as I remember. Is she greater than Dani?
-Maybe Patty is talented...But wasted talent means nothing.
-I dont remember if someone mentioned Schnyder as a GS favourite...Did I miss something?

Sure, Patty is a headcase. But she was # 7 in the world and on good days she can beat everyone (per example Henin on Clay). You're acting like Patty is a bad Top 200 player :rolleyes:

borisyBACK
Sep 14th, 2007, 07:38 PM
Many times Patty was mentioned as a potential winner of RG. she could have easily reached the RG final this year if she didn't waste zillions of match points. Noone ever said something like "Daniela could have reached the finak of Wimbledon".

AnnaK_4ever
Sep 14th, 2007, 07:39 PM
Sure, Patty is a headcase. But she was # 5 in the world and on good days she can beat everyone (per example Henin on Clay). You're acting like Patty is a bad Top 200 player :rolleyes:

To stand correct, Schnyder was No.7.

ViennaCalling
Sep 14th, 2007, 07:40 PM
To stand correct, Schnyder was No.7.

Sorry :o I'll edit it.

saint2
Sep 14th, 2007, 07:40 PM
Sure, Patty is a headcase. But she was # 5 in the world and on good days she can beat everyone (per example Henin on Clay). You're acting like Patty is a bad Top 200 player :rolleyes:

Well, last days she plays like a bad top200 player :lol: :lol: Patty never was #5 in the world. Dani was. I have a respect for Patty (sometimes its hard, but I try to have respect to everyone), but quotes like "Patty is far greater than Daniela" are a little bit unfair to Dani IMO ;)

saint2
Sep 14th, 2007, 07:41 PM
Plus if they would face each other now, I'd bet my realy money for Daniela.

ViennaCalling
Sep 14th, 2007, 07:41 PM
Well, last days she plays like a bad top200 player :lol: :lol:

That's true. But her loss against Tamira wasn't that bad: Patty played good, but Tamira played better :hearts: :D

AnnaK_4ever
Sep 14th, 2007, 07:42 PM
Many times Patty was mentioned as a potential winner of RG. she could have easily reached the RG final this year if she didn't waste zillions of match points. Noone ever said something like "Daniela could have reached the finak of Wimbledon".

It's just not true. Schnyder never was considered a contender for Grand Slam title. Don't know what "experts" you're talking about...
She was named a darkhorse quite often though.

borisyBACK
Sep 14th, 2007, 07:46 PM
It's just not true. Schnyder never was considered a contender for Grand Slam title. Don't know what "experts" you're talking about...
She was named a darkhorse quite often though.

You should read more I guess. Wertheim, Austin etc all mentioned her as one of the top 3-4 players to win RGs at least twice.

AnnaK_4ever
Sep 14th, 2007, 07:52 PM
You should read more I guess. Wertheim, Austin etc all mentioned her as one of the top 3-4 players to win RGs at least twice.

Oh, those experts!.. Worthless and the greatest claycourter of all time... I see. They sure know what it takes to win RG :rolleyes:

Elwin.
Sep 14th, 2007, 07:56 PM
Patty!

saint2
Sep 14th, 2007, 07:58 PM
Hantuchova
Tour Titles 2
Tier 1 2
Prize Money $4,971,160
Career W-L 304-185(.622)
Highest Rank 5
Best GS Performance QF (AO, Wim, USO)
1r GS Losses 4
Head-to-Head 7

Schnyder
Tour Titles 10
Tier 1 1
Prize Money $6,299,973
Career W-L 458-291(.611)
Highest Rank 7
Best GS Performance SF (AO), QF (FO, USO)
1r GS Losses 9
Head-to-Head 8

Tied 4-4...

Better legs- Daniela...Now its 5-4 to Dani :p :p

AnnaK_4ever
Sep 14th, 2007, 08:03 PM
Hantuchova
Tour Titles 2
Tier 1 2
Prize Money $4,971,160
Career W-L 304-185(.622)
Highest Rank 5
Best GS Performance QF (AO, Wim, USO)
1r GS Losses 4
Head-to-Head 7

Schnyder
Tour Titles 10
Tier 1 1
Prize Money $6,299,973
Career W-L 458-291(.611)
Highest Rank 7
Best GS Performance SF (AO), QF (FO, USO)
1r GS Losses 9
Head-to-Head 8

Tied 4-4...

Tour level matches won-lost:
Hantuchova - 250-170 - 0.595
Schnyder - 420-273 - 0.606
:p

*JR*
Sep 14th, 2007, 08:07 PM
I don't know that the term "greater" applies to either, but Dani is a lot younger and seems ova the Personal Problems that derailed her career for awhile. (Unlike someone who disappeared like lets say Eleni, to the point that you'd expect 2C her on milk cartons) :help: Dani slowly worked her way back, and won "her personal Super Tier I" again. And regarding the h2h, she "cleaned the carpets of Europe" with the Peppermint Perm 3 out of 4 times last fall, I think. She also hasn't married someone with a felony conviction :p and is a charming and intelligent person. (Where is Graham D when you need him?) :devil:

UDACHi
Sep 14th, 2007, 08:15 PM
schnyder by a shatload. anyone voting hantuchova is kidding themselves. :help:

saint2
Sep 14th, 2007, 08:16 PM
schnyder by a shatload. anyone voting hantuchova is kidding themselves. :help:

becouse???

borisyBACK
Sep 14th, 2007, 08:32 PM
becouse???

http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=283282

:wavey:

iPatty
Sep 14th, 2007, 08:38 PM
patty by FAR.

like are you even kidding me? :lol:

daniela is a joke compared to patty. two titles? TWO?!

saint2, you are an idiot. please, PLEASE tell me on what basis daniela is greater than patty?
this should be interesting. :o

saint2
Sep 14th, 2007, 08:47 PM
patty by FAR.

like are you even kidding me? :lol:

daniela is a joke compared to patty. two titles? TWO?!

saint2, you are an idiot. please, PLEASE tell me on what basis daniela is greater than patty?
this should be interesting. :o

:lol: :lol: :lol: Of coourse , I apologize- Dani is joke- she never was in top 100, and Patty is a multi GS champion and current #1 But can someone explain me why that Great Champion and Most Talented Player in the World alredy lost to kid ranked outside top100 ? :help: :help:

UDACHi
Sep 14th, 2007, 08:52 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: Of coourse , I apologize- Dani is joke- she never was in top 100, and Patty is a multi GS champion and current #1 But can someone explain me why that Great Champion and Most Talented Player in the World alredy lost to kid ranked outside top100 ? :help: :help:

patty is just better. she's been around much longer, has 8 more titles, has been to a major semifinal, and is capable of pulling off a huge win at any time with a game like hers.
and don't even bring patty's latest loss into this because daniela has lost to many low ranked players in her day.

borisyBACK
Sep 14th, 2007, 08:55 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: Of coourse , I apologize- Dani is joke- she never was in top 100, and Patty is a multi GS champion and current #1 But can someone explain me why that Great Champion and Most Talented Player in the World alredy lost to kid ranked outside top100 ? :help: :help:

At least she didn't lose in the 1st round of USO ;)

Hantu515
Sep 14th, 2007, 09:02 PM
Patty has more titles and money because she is 6 years older than Daniela. because they are not the same age the W/L record should be taken more into account then the formers. That being said, without looking it up and I very well could be wrong, I would guess that Daniela plays the bigger events more than Patty does, so that leads me to believe even more that because her W/L is higher and plays the big events and still maintains that higher W/L, Daniela is the better player.

AnnaK_4ever
Sep 14th, 2007, 09:06 PM
becouse???

One of the reasons is that Daniela has never beaten a Top-3 player. And her record against Top-5 players isn't impressive either (4-26).

AnnaK_4ever
Sep 14th, 2007, 09:07 PM
Patty has more titles and money because she is 6 years older than Daniela. because they are not the same age the W/L record should be taken more into account then the formers. That being said, without looking it up and I very well could be wrong, I would guess that Daniela plays the bigger events more than Patty does, so that leads me to believe even more that because her W/L is higher and plays the big events and still maintains that higher W/L, Daniela is the better player.

Patty's Tour win-loss record is better than Daniela's one.

saint2
Sep 14th, 2007, 09:09 PM
One of the reasons is that Daniela has never beaten a Top-3 player. And her record against Top-5 players isn't impressive either (4-26).

Someone remember such silly things?

AnnaK_4ever
Sep 14th, 2007, 09:14 PM
Someone remember such silly things?

These "silly" things can say quite a bit about player's abilities. Patty was capable of upsetting the very best players on her day. The same can't be said on Daniela.

At Charleston 2002 Patty defeated Mauresmo, Pierce (who, albeit, was far from her best), Serena and Capriati in a row.

AnnaK_4ever
Sep 14th, 2007, 09:15 PM
Schnyder finished three years in the top 10, Hantuchova only once.
Plus Schnyder actually wins tournaments and has a Grand Slam semi-final to boot.

Oh, those numbers! :devil: :lol:
Two years, not three ;)

borisyBACK
Sep 14th, 2007, 09:17 PM
These "silly" things can say quite a bit about player's abilities. Patty was capable of upsetting the very best players on her day. The same can't be said on Daniela.

At Charleston 2002 Patty defeated Mauresmo, Pierce (who, albeit, was far from her best), Serena and Capriati in a row.

Thanks for this post. This basically makes more voting unnecessary.

AnnaK_4ever
Sep 14th, 2007, 09:18 PM
Three: 1998, 2005, 2006 :)

Two: 2005 and 2006. She finished at No.11 in 1998.

stickwitju(ju)
Sep 14th, 2007, 09:35 PM
Schynder's got this, without question. She's been unlucky to not have won a slam. If I was Justine, Serena and Venus, I'd rather play Hantuchova than Schnyder.

:rocker:

Shonami Slam
Sep 14th, 2007, 09:37 PM
patty had a lengthy career on and off, never really stringing in a good season prior 2005 (of what i can remember, at least).
she's now past that two-season peak of hers, and yet she's still a pretty darn good competitor, espesially on clay.

Dani had a spotlight in her career that was always in some question prior this years IW win.

i'm guessing that dani might be able to come up with the goods for a big tourny again sometime, but i don't see her winning tournaments of lower tier just as well.

i take patty for the whole package.

btw - dani is a career grand slam winner in mixed doubles events, and that should be said in her resume.

Matt01
Sep 14th, 2007, 09:38 PM
Schnyder finished three years in the top 10, Hantuchova only once.
Plus Schnyder actually wins tournaments and has a Grand Slam semi-final to boot.

That's not really relevant here IMO because Dani and Patty have both won two big tournaments: Dani IW twice and Patty won Zurich and Hannover, with the latter being "only" a Tier II, though. The other tournaments Patty won were Mickey Mouse tournaments.

saint2
Sep 14th, 2007, 09:43 PM
Schynder's got this, without question. She's been unlucky to not have won a slam. If I was Justine, Serena and Venus, I'd rather play Hantuchova than Schnyder.

:rocker:

Unlucky? Or maybe just too weak to won a slam...

LudwigDvorak
Sep 14th, 2007, 09:49 PM
On hardcourt and grass I'd say Hantuchova is probably the better player, or at least more consistent. I think Hantuchova's gotten top 10 victories on all surfaces, and I don't believe Patty has any on grass. Plus, out of Daniela's six WTA finals, five have been on hardcourts, the other being on grass. On clay it's no argument who is better; it's frankly kind of embarrassing it took Daniela this long to get to a clay semifinal for the first time in Rome this year.

Schnyder's got more top victories though. She's beaten the best of the best at least once, and I don't think anyone else can say that. Daniela has 22 top-10 victories, five coming this year--but very few are really that big.

As a player, Schnyder has fewer technical deficiencies, although both don't have many. Daniela has movement issues + her head, whereas Schnyder just goes :silly:. I dunno, both are pretty equal, especially considering how young Dani's career really is. After mid-2003 to really the smack end of 2006 there isn't much Daniela did with her career, and it's still a close contest. Get with it, Dani. :kiss:

sweetpeas
Sep 14th, 2007, 09:50 PM
Undoubtedly Patty.


So true.:wavey: Patty can be dangerous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cool: For any player.When Patty on,WOW.:bounce: :lol:

stickwitju(ju)
Sep 14th, 2007, 10:35 PM
Unlucky? Or maybe just too weak to won a slam...

Yep, mental fragility always did Schnyder in. Too bad.

:sad:

gaggleguy
Sep 14th, 2007, 10:45 PM
results being more or less equal, Schnyder, because she has a more creative game

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Sep 14th, 2007, 10:48 PM
Patty

I don´t think that Dani is gonna win 10 titles in her career or she is gonna make a GS semis in her career

saint2
Sep 14th, 2007, 10:49 PM
...And I dont think Patty will ever be top 5 player...

Farina Elia Fan
Sep 14th, 2007, 10:51 PM
patty

*JR*
Sep 14th, 2007, 10:53 PM
At Charleston 2002 Patty defeated Mauresmo, Pierce (who, albeit, was far from her best), Serena and Capriati in a row.
Yeah, when she had Coach Choudury, not Frankfurt Felon in her corner. But Hoffy fired Hu-Bear (on the phone from SUI) :lol: @ Charleston '03 because his November '02 Criminal Conviction meant he was...

Banned... in the USA
Yes he was
Banned... in the USA :devil:

Funny, I was rooting for the Strange Suissie in that '02 match, and had never heard of the Career Conman. But Iva (who had gone thru a much more modest set of opponents in rounds 2-5 (MGM, Mandy, Smash, and Sandrine) foot faulted like a bitch in the final :tape: and didn't get called once in a 6-4, 7-5 victory, avenging her best friend Jen's loss there. :cool: (The FF's didn't matter much. After facing those 4 opponents, the Puppet Played like she was wearing ankle weights). :p

Mic-190286
Sep 15th, 2007, 12:03 AM
Hantuchova is better at the moment, IMO. Overall Patty has had a better career, but by the time Dani finishes i'd say they'll look similar enough.

RJWCapriati
Sep 15th, 2007, 12:36 AM
Patty

LindsayRulz
Sep 15th, 2007, 12:41 AM
Patty.

The Kaz
Sep 15th, 2007, 03:34 AM
Patty has more titles, better GS results, better H2H, longer in the top 10

GSM Patty ;)

LefandePatty
Sep 15th, 2007, 10:49 AM
Patty is a multi GS champion and current #1 But can someone explain me why that Great Champion and Most Talented Player in the World alredy lost to kid ranked outside top100 ? :help: :help:

She was ill. :weirdo:

She took sme medicaments during the whole match.
Even Rainer didn't want her to play this day. But she did it for her fans in Bali, she didn't want to disappoint them. :hug:

SUTF saint2.

justine schnyder
Sep 15th, 2007, 11:04 AM
She was ill. :weirdo:

She took sme medicaments during the whole match.
Even Rainer didn't want her to play this day. But she did it for her fans in Bali, she didn't want to disappoint them. :hug:

SUTF saint2.

patty :sad: :hug:

Beny
Sep 15th, 2007, 11:05 AM
Schnyder so far. She's been a much bigger threat for TOP players. Could beat anybody.

Daniela might still improve and reach her peak hopefully while Patty will have called it quits..

Agassi Fan
Sep 15th, 2007, 06:16 PM
No doubt, Patty.

saint2
Sep 15th, 2007, 06:18 PM
And now "joke comparing to Patty" is in final :worship: :worship:

justine schnyder
Sep 15th, 2007, 06:24 PM
And now "joke comparing to Patty" is in final :worship: :worship:

Her real test is tomorrow, against Lindsay..
and Patty was ill!!!!

iPatty
Sep 15th, 2007, 07:16 PM
And now "joke comparing to Patty" is in final :worship: :worship:

the fact that patty received 76% of the votes should tell you something.

and in case it doesn't, i'll tell you.
you're a retard.