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felipe2004
Sep 9th, 2007, 06:18 PM
I've just noticed that Justine has won her last three Slams without dropping a set. Roland Garros 2006, Roland Garros 2007 and US Open 2007. Pretty impressive. :eek: :worship:

Hingiswinsthis
Sep 9th, 2007, 06:19 PM
hence, the Henin era of women's tennis :-)

Reuchlin
Sep 9th, 2007, 06:21 PM
It means that when she's playing her best no one can beat her.

HenryMag.
Sep 9th, 2007, 06:24 PM
so, when Justine loses a set, it's garanted she won't win the Slam...


this shows, she's very good too in hard court...not just in clay.

DownTheLine21
Sep 9th, 2007, 06:25 PM
Venus challenged Henin more than anyone, taking 10 games off the champion. To be honest, of the Henin matches I've seen in these three Grandslams, her encounter with Venus was the only one in which she looked vulnerable. In the other matches, the outcome was pretty much certain from the start of the match.

felipe2004
Sep 9th, 2007, 06:26 PM
Roland Garros 2006:

R128 ANI, MARET EST 6-3 6-0
R64 YAKIMOVA, ANASTASIYA BLR 6-2 7-5
R32 GARBIN, TATHIANA ITA 6-4 6-0
R16 (10) MYSKINA, ANASTASIA RUS 6-1 6-4
Q (13) GROENEFELD, ANNA-LENA GER 7-5 6-2
S (2) CLIJSTERS, KIM BEL 6-3 6-2
F (8) KUZNETSOVA, SVETLANA RUS 6-4 6-4


Roland Garros 2007:

R128 VESNINA, ELENA RUS 6-4 6-3
R64 PASZEK, TAMIRA SHELAH AUT 7-5 6-1
R32 (28) SANTANGELO, MARA ITA 6-2 6-3
R16 (20) BAMMER, SYBILLE AUT 6-2 6-4
Q (8) WILLIAMS, SERENA USA 6-4 6-3
S (4) JANKOVIC, JELENA SRB 6-2 6-2
F (7) IVANOVIC, ANA SRB 6-1 6-2


US Open 2007:

R128 J. Goerges 6-0, 6-3
R64 T. Pironkova 6-4, 6-0
R32 E. Makarova 6-0, 6-2
R16 D. Safina 6-0, 6-2
Q S. Williams 7-6(3), 6-1
S V. Williams 7-6(2), 6-4
F S. Kuznetsova 6-1, 6-3

Conor
Sep 9th, 2007, 06:27 PM
She only lost 32 games this US Open, and has won 24 consecutive sets since Wimbledon...

Beny
Sep 9th, 2007, 06:27 PM
That's impressive. But I wouldn't mind her winning a GS with losing some set :) I'd like to see her dig deep and be under a little more pressure and play well in tight situations.

During matches like the RG 07 final there's never a doubt who'll win it...

treufreund
Sep 9th, 2007, 07:12 PM
Wow that is very tough!!!

bandabou
Sep 9th, 2007, 07:19 PM
impressive..girl is good. Don't know if this is good or bad..I mean, what happens with her when the going gets tough for once?

bandabou
Sep 9th, 2007, 07:28 PM
impressive..girl is good. Don't know if this is good or bad..I mean, what happens with her when the going gets tough for once?

jellybelly
Sep 9th, 2007, 08:15 PM
yeah really. Not to take anything away from her but before this, she could only win in Paris. I'm sure she would not mind dropping a few sets there if Serena and Venus would get out of her way at Wimby so she can finally win it, and probably Mauresmo too.

-Ph51-
Sep 9th, 2007, 08:37 PM
yeah really. Not to take anything away from her but before this, she could only win in Paris. I'm sure she would not mind dropping a few sets there if Serena and Venus would get out of her way at Wimby so she can finally win it, and probably Mauresmo too.

I thought Serena was defeated at Wimby and also that Bartoli was the one defeating Justine.;)

jellybelly
Sep 9th, 2007, 09:26 PM
I thought Serena was defeated at Wimby and also that Bartoli was the one defeating Justine.;)

Trust me. Bartoli did not defeat Henin by herself. Fear of Venus helped. A LOT.

Jasmin
Sep 9th, 2007, 09:58 PM
I love venus and serena but I would give the honor of Pierce Brosnan that lit the fire that was in Bartoli's belly. Doesn't matter..Henin got beaten that day..

Forehand_Volley
Sep 9th, 2007, 10:05 PM
yeah really. Not to take anything away from her but before this, she could only win in Paris.
2003 US Open
2004 Australian Open

2003 French Open
2004 Olympic Gold Medal
2005 French Open
2006 French Open
2007 French Open
2007 US Open

4 GS on clay
3 GS on hardcourt

jellybelly
Sep 9th, 2007, 10:16 PM
2003 US Open
2004 Australian Open

2003 French Open
2004 Olympic Gold Medal
2005 French Open
2006 French Open
2007 French Open
2007 US Open

4 GS on clay
3 GS on hardcourt

There is a gap of over 3 years between 04 Aussy and last week. And no Williamses were at 04 Aussy and 03 US. And if it weren't for Capriati and Clijsters choking she wouldn't even have those. And don't forget what she had to do to win the 03 French.

Forehand_Volley
Sep 9th, 2007, 10:32 PM
There is a gap of over 3 years between 04 Aussy and last week. And no Williamses were at 04 Aussy and 03 US. And if it weren't for Capriati and Clijsters choking she wouldn't even have those. And don't forget what she had to do to win the 03 French.
Its been five years since Serena won anything other than the Australian Open. Its been six years since Venus won anything other than Wimbledon.

What's your point other than belly-aching over sourgrapes?

jellybelly
Sep 9th, 2007, 10:33 PM
Its been five years since Serena won anything other than the Australian Open.

No it hasn't. She won WImblemdon in 2003.

homogenius
Sep 9th, 2007, 10:36 PM
Trust me. Bartoli did not defeat Henin by herself. Fear of Venus helped. A LOT.

She doesn't seemed to be afraid of Venus 2 days ago.

jellybelly
Sep 9th, 2007, 10:38 PM
She doesn't seemed to be afraid of Venus 2 days ago.

This Venus was anaemic and exhausted from a grueling 3 set match. The Wimblendon Venus was rounding into form and rising like a phoenix from the ashes. Henin knew she would get trashed if she stood in her way then, just as she knew she could take advantage of a downturn Venus was having in this tournament.

homogenius
Sep 9th, 2007, 10:47 PM
This Venus was anaemic and exhausted from a grueling 3 set match. The Wimblendon Venus was rounding into form and rising like a phoenix from the ashes. Henin knew she would get trashed if she stood in her way then, just as she knew she could take advantage of a downturn Venus was having in this tournament.

This Venus was the best Venus for years.She played great agressive tennis with less errors than usual (by her standards).Still Henin was in control of the match and the one with the most winners at the end.Henin has no reason to be afraid of Venus : she's able to deal with the power of Venus's groundstrokes and has more variety in her shots.

maximus82
Sep 9th, 2007, 11:07 PM
There is a gap of over 3 years between 04 Aussy and last week. And no Williamses were at 04 Aussy and 03 US. And if it weren't for Capriati and Clijsters choking she wouldn't even have those. And don't forget what she had to do to win the 03 French.

Turnabout is fair play:

Serena's last two slams (AO 07 and AO 05) didn't have Henin in the draw - so she never had to play her main rival.

jellybelly
Sep 9th, 2007, 11:17 PM
Turnabout is fair play:

Serena's last two slams (AO 07 and AO 05) didn't have Henin in the draw - so she never had to play her main rival.

Uh HELLO? did you watch tv those years? The form Serena was in, nobody was beating her those years. It's self evident. Not the same thing at all.

jujufreak
Sep 9th, 2007, 11:24 PM
Trust me. Bartoli did not defeat Henin by herself. Fear of Venus helped. A LOT.

so you keep saying, although you know it's :bs:

Harvs
Sep 9th, 2007, 11:28 PM
shes incredible... undisputed world number one

jujufreak
Sep 9th, 2007, 11:28 PM
There is a gap of over 3 years between 04 Aussy and last week. And no Williamses were at 04 Aussy and 03 US. And if it weren't for Capriati and Clijsters choking she wouldn't even have those. And don't forget what she had to do to win the 03 French.

jeez, you're a hater :lol: :lol: :lol:

okay, following your logics ;)

she didn't play the Australian Open in '05 and '07, that's why Serena was able to win :rolleyes:

if it wasn't for Clijsters choking at the Aussie Open '03 Serena wouldn't have won either :lol:

so funny to use your kind of points against your fave :D

jujufreak
Sep 9th, 2007, 11:32 PM
This Venus was anaemic and exhausted from a grueling 3 set match. The Wimblendon Venus was rounding into form and rising like a phoenix from the ashes. Henin knew she would get trashed if she stood in her way then, just as she knew she could take advantage of a downturn Venus was having in this tournament.

the wimbledon Justine was emotionally tired after everything that happened in the first half of the year and exhausted from her 3 set match against Serena. In New York she was rounding into form and rising like a phoenix from the ashes. Venus knew she would get trashed because she knew she only won Wimbledon because Justine wasn't in the final.

Do you like that kind of things said about your faves :) ?

jujufreak
Sep 9th, 2007, 11:38 PM
Uh HELLO? did you watch tv those years? The form Serena was in, nobody was beating her those years. It's self evident. Not the same thing at all.

uh HELLO, you're kidding yourself :lol:

if she was in such great shape, why didn't she continue winning :D ? Why did she get beaten by Bammer :D ? She was just lucky Lindsay didn't want to let down Corina and played her doubles match. Because of that she was tired even before the final started. She was even more lucky meeting Maria with her lack of confidence in this year's final :D

Hazy
Sep 9th, 2007, 11:59 PM
impressive..girl is good. Don't know if this is good or bad..I mean, what happens with her when the going gets tough for once?

You mean like at the 2003 U.S. Open semifinal or the 2004 Athens Olympics semifinal?

Matt01
Sep 10th, 2007, 12:03 AM
There is a gap of over 3 years between 04 Aussy and last week. And no Williamses were at 04 Aussy and 03 US. And if it weren't for Capriati and Clijsters choking she wouldn't even have those. And don't forget what she had to do to win the 03 French.

At least get your facts straight when you are trying to bash someone. You are not particularly good at it, though.

jellybelly
Sep 10th, 2007, 01:04 AM
First of all. Welcome to multiquote, you don't need to waste space by replying in several posts.

the wimbledon Justine was emotionally tired after everything that happened in the first half of the year and exhausted from her 3 set match against Serena. In New York she was rounding into form and rising like a phoenix from the ashes. Venus knew she would get trashed because she knew she only won Wimbledon because Justine wasn't in the final.

Do you like that kind of things said about your faves :) ?

Tired from what? Venus had much longer matches at Wimblendon and had to fight back mentally from near defeat many more times. Venus also played more earlier in the year. Why should Henin be more tired? And your logic is broken. If Venus was afraid of her at USO she would have "lost" to Jankovich like Henin did to Bartoli, but she didn't. Even though she had anaemia and was getting dizzy.


uh HELLO, you're kidding yourself :lol:

if she was in such great shape, why didn't she continue winning :D ? Why did she get beaten by Bammer :D ? She was just lucky Lindsay didn't want to let down Corina and played her doubles match. Because of that she was tired even before the final started. She was even more lucky meeting Maria with her lack of confidence in this year's final :D

Are you actually trying to debate this issue or are you just trolling? She was beaten by Bammer BEFORE Aussy when she was getting into form. By the time of the Aussy FINALS she was unstoppable and no Henin or Dhenin could've come between her and that trophy then. Same with the Lindsay match, Serena was a little tight in the beginning but once she woke up she steamrolled Lindsay. Noone could've stopped that either. And LOL at your comment about Maria not being confident. She had just won USO and the whole USO series, was number 1 and having the best time of her career. Also she easily beat Clijsters in semis. Why should she not be confident? Especially when she was playing a Serena who was still early in her comeback and hadn't played much in a long time. Her lack of confidence came AFTER the trashing Serena gave her despite all the odds stacked in Sharpie's favour.

jellybelly
Sep 10th, 2007, 01:09 AM
At least get your facts straight when you are trying to bash someone. You are not particularly good at it, though.

I am not bashing anyone. I am just trying to bring some objectivity to help reduce some of the huge bias that so many posters have against the Williams sisters. OK Venus was there at Aussy but we all know how badly injured she was and it still took Mary Jo & co. and a gaggle of coaches who all gave so much help and advice to Lisa Raymond to topple a wincing Venus

David55
Sep 10th, 2007, 01:17 AM
First of all. Welcome to multiquote, you don't need to waste space by replying in several posts.



Tired from what? Venus had much longer matches at Wimblendon and had to fight back mentally from near defeat many more times. Venus also played more earlier in the year. Why should Henin be more tired? And your logic is broken. If Venus was afraid of her at USO she would have "lost" to Jankovich like Henin did to Bartoli, but she didn't. Even though she had anaemia and was getting dizzy.





Are you actually trying to debate this issue or are you just trolling? She was beaten by Bammer BEFORE Aussy when she was getting into form. By the time of the Aussy FINALS she was unstoppable and no Henin or Dhenin could've come between her and that trophy then. Same with the Lindsay match, Serena was a little tight in the beginning but once she woke up she steamrolled Lindsay. Noone could've stopped that either. And LOL at your comment about Maria not being confident. She had just won USO and the whole USO series, was number 1 and having the best time of her career. Also she easily beat Clijsters in semis. Why should she not be confident? Especially when she was playing a Serena who was still early in her comeback and hadn't played much in a long time. Her lack of confidence came AFTER the trashing Serena gave her despite all the odds stacked in Sharpie's favour.
At AO 2007 Serena was only "awesome" in the final. Before that she was struggling big time. If Henin had come up against her before the final, there's a damn good chance Henin would've won.
And the 2005 AO Serena was not so stellar either. Remember Serena was down match points against Sharapova in the SF's and wasn't in control of the final until Davenport pretty much went away at 3-3 in the second set.
Both tournaments turned out great for Serena, but she was certainly not unbeatable throughout them.

Fingon
Sep 10th, 2007, 01:25 AM
Uh HELLO? did you watch tv those years? The form Serena was in, nobody was beating her those years. It's self evident. Not the same thing at all.


hmmm, that's what happens when people talk a lot of crap and try to look intellectual.

self evident? what the fuck is that?

jellybelly
Sep 10th, 2007, 01:47 AM
hmmm, that's what happens when people talk a lot of crap and try to look intellectual.

self evident? what the fuck is that?

Look it up.

shap_half
Sep 10th, 2007, 01:50 AM
I am not bashing anyone. I am just trying to bring some objectivity to help reduce some of the huge bias that so many posters have against the Williams sisters. OK Venus was there at Aussy but we all know how badly injured she was and it still took Mary Jo & co. and a gaggle of coaches who all gave so much help and advice to Lisa Raymond to topple a wincing Venus

Are you kidding me with this?

Everything you've said in this entire thread is dripping with bias.

jujufreak
Sep 10th, 2007, 03:59 PM
Are you actually trying to debate this issue or are you just trolling?

I was just trying to show you that your points are ridiculous, you're being delusional.

jujufreak
Sep 10th, 2007, 04:01 PM
I am not bashing anyone. I am just trying to bring some objectivity to help reduce some of the huge bias that so many posters have against the Williams sisters. OK Venus was there at Aussy but we all know how badly injured she was and it still took Mary Jo & co. and a gaggle of coaches who all gave so much help and advice to Lisa Raymond to topple a wincing Venus

objectivity :lol:

so, when was the last time Venus or Serena lost without being injured? 1998 perhaps :lol: :lol: :lol:

DragonFlame
Sep 10th, 2007, 07:22 PM
Uh HELLO? did you watch tv those years? The form Serena was in, nobody was beating her those years. It's self evident. Not the same thing at all.

yeah right, you're so biased:rolleyes:

Ellery
Sep 10th, 2007, 07:24 PM
Really impressive :worship:

homogenius
Sep 10th, 2007, 07:26 PM
I am not bashing anyone. I am just trying to bring some objectivity to help reduce some of the huge bias that so many posters have against the Williams sisters. OK Venus was there at Aussy but we all know how badly injured she was and it still took Mary Jo & co. and a gaggle of coaches who all gave so much help and advice to Lisa Raymond to topple a wincing Venus

What is funny is that you seems convinced by what you're saying.

spencercarlos
Sep 10th, 2007, 07:27 PM
This Venus was anaemic and exhausted from a grueling 3 set match. The Wimblendon Venus was rounding into form and rising like a phoenix from the ashes. Henin knew she would get trashed if she stood in her way then, just as she knew she could take advantage of a downturn Venus was having in this tournament.
Stop the excuses, less than 2 months ago Venus had to play many more matches in a row, with now rest in between, and the first match to start that streak was a 7-5 in the third set win.

Here she had 2 days of rest, played 1 tough match, then another day of rest, and the excuses about being tired fly all over the place... Sorry i don´t buy it.

:wavey:

spencercarlos
Sep 10th, 2007, 07:33 PM
Tired from what? Venus had much longer matches at Wimblendon and had to fight back mentally from near defeat many more times. Venus also played more earlier in the year. Why should Henin be more tired? And your logic is broken. If Venus was afraid of her at USO she would have "lost" to Jankovich like Henin did to Bartoli, but she didn't. Even though she had anaemia and was getting dizzy.
Henin was just coming off winning Roland Garros and Eastbourne, an event she won in a thrilling three set final revenge of Wimbledon 2006 final. When Henin shows up she has to play a lot of matches because she gets at least to the semifinals. That can´t be said about Venus. :rolleyes:

You only have to do a sum of how many matches Henin played between Roland Garros and Wimbledon and Venus´s to realize why she could have been tired by the time the Wimbledon latter rounds came.
Simple math, i hope you can ack that...

:wavey: