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selesfan1
Sep 9th, 2007, 05:11 AM
At least for the time being. About a year and a half ago I weighed 202 lbs, as a 20 year old male you might deduce that this was not helping me out socially at all. Frustrated and determined, I went on a healthy eating plan and rigourous exercise plan. i had never felt better in my life. I have lost a total of 37 lbs. People complimented me like never before and I got rid of all my fat clothes. I went down from a waist size of 36 to a size of 31/32 depending on the brand. I was able to run 6 miles straight, I had never been able to do that before.Overall I felt great. However, recently I have noticed that being thin and fit is not all it is hyped up to be. One example being,I still don't have a significant other or have even started dating. I had always been overweight and I still could lose 15 lbs. so people weren't really attracted to me. However, people still just want to keep me as a friend and they still say the same thing they said to me before" you're not my type but whoever gets you is lucky." Today I went shopping at Kohl's and they had the best sale they had a variety of polo shirts and other shirts marked down to 2 for $10.00 however, they only had sizes that fit me too large. I have noticed this is true for everything.I am actually having to buy more expensive clothes because very rarely do pants my size make it to the clearance/sale rack. If I need to buy a healthy snack it's like $1.50 more to buy baked chips than fried chips. It's $1.00 more to buy whole grain bread than white bread.It's a little more expensive for skim milk. Oranges are like sky high right now.But, I can still get a whole meal at McDonald's for $3.50. I don't know, I Guess I am very unmotivated right now. But today, I guess I cam to the realization that so many people are obese because it really is cheaper in the short run to live the lifestyle of an obese person.Wouldn't you all agree?

selking
Sep 9th, 2007, 05:18 AM
yeah but honestly losing the weight shouldn't be for other people but really for yourself. I lost weight because I was sick of being out of shape and wanted to be healthy again. This is not just about you being attrative but also about living a healthy lifestyle for the rest of your life. PLEASE DO NO STOP. I stopped and now i'm back where I was. Stick with it and stay how you are because if you gain it back all this will just seem like a waste. Good luck

Whitehead's Boy
Sep 9th, 2007, 05:23 AM
If you take the time to cook, eating healthy cost the same as eating junk.

As for clothes... There are cheap clothes for every size.

So, no, I don't think being thin is more expensive.

No Name Face
Sep 9th, 2007, 05:37 AM
that's a given.
i actually eat well a lot of the time and generally speaking, produce, fresh nuts, and lean meats cost a lot more than potato chips, hoho's, mcdonald's, and twinkies.

i totally disagree about it sucking to be thin. i have genetics on my side, but being in shape is the best thing i can do for myself, both externally and internally. america is about convenience and convenience makes you fat, but that's not the way we're meant to be (as people). it's good that you took the time to lose the weight, but ultimately the kind of person you are will get you the girlfriends, not the looks. they only help and that's with certain girls/people.

Whitehead's Boy
Sep 9th, 2007, 05:43 AM
A big bag of brown rice is very cheap. Legumes cost nothing. A big bag of oat costs nothing. A bag of apples or carrots is very cheap. Potatoes are actually healthy even if they have a high glycemic index. Someone on a budget can eat healthy, though I admit it takes effort and it means being selective.

Also, eating healthy is more filling than eating at Mcdonald's and junk, so you eat less.

Sally Struthers
Sep 9th, 2007, 05:49 AM
That's why lots of people are fat. They are lazy and choose the cheap and easy way to do things. Staying thin and looking good is work and can cost a lot. It's more expensive to buy the stuff and prepare a salad than to pick up a Wendy's single on the 99 cent menu. And then you have to spend money if you want to join a gym or get a personal trainer. If you shop at places like Kohls, you'll notice that their clothes are bigger in all sizes because Americans are fat in general. I swear they mark the clothes smaller than they actually are just to make people feel better. "Small?" hon, that was 10 years ago's "Large". :o :lol: If you buy better clothes though, they are more true to size in my experience. As for food, buy what is in season. Orange are sky high now because they're not in season now.

Polikarpov
Sep 9th, 2007, 06:47 AM
When you get various diseases and complications triggered by obesity, you'll find out that it's cheaper to be slim and fit.

Wigglytuff
Sep 9th, 2007, 08:02 AM
ok, well i wanted to say thats sort of a given, but i will add that you can DEFINITELY be thin and unhealthy and "fat" and fit (saw a story about this woman who does long distance swimming in semi-frozen waters. she was overweight technically but VERY fit, and hot to boot).

in the end eating right is expensive (even if you make it yourself time is money. so :shrug: )

that said, i think thats not a bad thing. i dont mind spending a lot of money on foods (90% of what i eat is organic, all my poultry that i eat is free range or organic) it feels to me to be better use of my money than almost anything thing else i can think of.

Wigglytuff
Sep 9th, 2007, 08:06 AM
p.s. where do you live that the McD's meals are $3.50?? even a kids meal is at least $4 here.

p.p.s.
i can however get a bag of those organic pre made fresh salads for $1.99 just ad dressing and like 4 servings add up to 40 maybe 50 calories.

ASV_FAN
Sep 9th, 2007, 08:14 AM
What a load of bullshit, even if it is more expensive (which it isn't) to eat/live healthily you should still want to do it purely for the health benefits. And let's face it, everyone thinks fat people are lazy and looks down on them so get on the treadmill and join the fit club!

Re: prices of healthy food, you don't need to splash out on organic produce you just buy low fat. Fresh fruit is cheap as are fresh vegetables and things like rice, pasta, potatoes are all low in fat, are the basis of endless meals and will give you lots of energy for exercise.

LudwigDvorak
Sep 9th, 2007, 08:39 AM
I'm kind of in a similar position as you are. I'm not fat, but I could stand to lose about 10-15 pounds. For the past three months, pizza and the occasional ice cream aside, I've eaten healthier than I have in my entire life. I haven't even looked at McDonald's since June. :speakles:

I weigh about 200 pounds, but I'm also like 6'1" so I don't look that bad. All I really need to do is just work out and I'd be fine, it's just getting to that step that's been hard. :o

Just take a walk every day, or get a membership at a gym. It's not all about the food.

And by the way, while it's more expensive to eat healthier, you'll realize that stuff actually tastes better than the unhealthy stuff after awhile. I eat small portions of grapes or strawberries every day, then I'll have some salad, and I can't imagine a day without some juice or water. I've also never been much of a bread man; if I do eat bread, only wheat, and even then I'll use a tortilla to make a lunchmeat/lettuce/pickle wrap instead most of the time.

Eating healthy is extremely delicious. :hearts:

Expat
Sep 9th, 2007, 08:42 AM
as someone who came from 200 pounds to 145 pounds i empathize completely
and it took me bloody 2 years to reduce that much
and as for the clothes i never find clothes my size
at 32 inches and nearly 6 ft i hardly find clothes my height at clearance stores

all the dieting made me sick
and finding healthy food is infinitely more expensive than eating junk food

and now if i become slack for one moment i become fat

mc8114
Sep 9th, 2007, 09:21 AM
you're right in one way, usually healthier food is more expensive and let's face it, it doesnt taste that good :tape: :o but the benefit of living a healthier life is totally worth it :)


about getting/staying on shape is something you should do for yourself as selking said,not to try to fit in

CooCooCachoo
Sep 9th, 2007, 09:32 AM
yeah but honestly losing the weight shouldn't be for other people but really for yourself. I lost weight because I was sick of being out of shape and wanted to be healthy again. This is not just about you being attrative but also about living a healthy lifestyle for the rest of your life. PLEASE DO NO STOP. I stopped and now i'm back where I was. Stick with it and stay how you are because if you gain it back all this will just seem like a waste. Good luck

Agreed. I had the same.

If I need to buy a healthy snack it's like $1.50 more to buy baked chips than fried chips.

Baked chips are not healthy either :shrug: Healthier, yes, but not healthy by any means.

Also, at least I notice this, I eat about 40-50% less than I used to. As you lose weight, your stomach also shrinks, so you have to buy less food, which means you can spend a bit more on quality food.

Please also try to realize that healthy food just tastes waaaay better. Fresh produce beats a Happy Meal anytime. Luckily, I have always had an aversion towards McDonalds, but everytime I walk past a snackbar I get nauseous cause of the stench.

Concerning the sales, well I guess this could be true. But it probably just means that you have to be at the sales earlier, as the more regular sizes go faster. But paying a bit more for your clothes and feeling comfortable in them beats walking around in a table cloth, in my opinion.

CooCooCachoo
Sep 9th, 2007, 09:35 AM
By the way, when cooking, try to cut down on meat. You really don't need meat that much. Instead, eat mushrooms for the protein. Mushrooms are cheaper than meat, and more environment-friendly as well :wavey:

Yasmine
Sep 9th, 2007, 09:56 AM
It is true if you're lazy. If you put the effort into getting nice fresh food and take the time to cook it, not only it can be a nice time for yourself thinking about cooking it and how nice it'll taste but it also gets cheaper in the end.

Kart
Sep 9th, 2007, 10:01 AM
One example being,I still don't have a significant other or have even started dating. I had always been overweight and I still could lose 15 lbs. so people weren't really attracted to me.

So you lost weight to get a girlfriend/boyfriend ?

I hate society :rolleyes:.

Fortunately, with the advent of the internet, there's a niche for everyone if you catch my meaning ;).

meyerpl
Sep 9th, 2007, 10:03 AM
When you get various diseases and complications triggered by obesity, you'll find out that it's cheaper to be slim and fit.
Very true. Plus, it isn't just about being fat or thin; eating a healthy diet can help aboid all sorts of health problems in the long run. Yes, it costs more to eat a healthy diet consisting of whole grains, fresh fruit, fresh fish, fresh vegitables, etc. than a bunch of crap but consider it an investment in your future. Sort of like saving for retirement but more important.

CooCooCachoo
Sep 9th, 2007, 10:26 AM
BTW two polos for $10 :eek:

What brand? :eek:

Pengwin
Sep 9th, 2007, 10:47 AM
By the way, when cooking, try to cut down on meat. You really don't need meat that much. Instead, eat mushrooms for the protein. Mushrooms are cheaper than meat, and more environment-friendly as well :wavey:

Oooooooooooooh mushrooms!!!!!! :D Yummerzzzzz :drool: :drool: :weirdo:

EDIT: Sorry Coo, don't mean to mock you, but I am not replacing meat with mushrooms, and I don't think it's a realistic alternative :tape:

CooCooCachoo
Sep 9th, 2007, 10:50 AM
Oooooooooooooh mushrooms!!!!!! :D Yummerzzzzz :drool: :drool: :weirdo:

EDIT: Sorry Coo, don't mean to mock you, but I am not replacing meat with mushrooms, and I don't think it's a realistic alternative :tape:

If you don't like them, that is fine :shrug: But why is it not a realistic alternative?

Pengwin
Sep 9th, 2007, 10:52 AM
If you don't like them, that is fine :shrug: But why is it not a realistic alternative?


Based on your logic:

Breakfast: Mushroom sarnie, mushroom sausages and mushroom sauce

Lunch: Mushroom curry, mushroom burger with cheese, mushroom wings, kentucky fried mushroom

Dinner: Currymushroom, mushroom kebab, sweet and sour mushroom, mushroom steak, mushroom schnitzel.

etc.

It just doesn't work!

CooCooCachoo
Sep 9th, 2007, 11:00 AM
Based on your logic:

Breakfast: Mushroom sarnie, mushroom sausages and mushroom sauce

Lunch: Mushroom curry, mushroom burger with cheese, mushroom wings, kentucky fried mushroom

Dinner: Currymushroom, mushroom kebab, sweet and sour mushroom, mushroom steak, mushroom schnitzel.

etc.

It just doesn't work!

:rolls:

:spit:

:haha:

You eat too much. And too much meat :haha:

Ilikebigboobies
Sep 9th, 2007, 11:03 AM
Based on your logic:

Breakfast: Mushroom sarnie, mushroom sausages and mushroom sauce

Lunch: Mushroom curry, mushroom burger with cheese, mushroom wings, kentucky fried mushroom

Dinner: Currymushroom, mushroom kebab, sweet and sour mushroom, mushroom steak, mushroom schnitzel.

etc.

It just doesn't work!
I thought Pengwin's ate fish? :confused:

stickwitju(ju)
Sep 9th, 2007, 11:04 AM
At least for the time being. About a year and a half ago I weighed 202 lbs, as a 20 year old male you might deduce that this was not helping me out socially at all. Frustrated and determined, I went on a healthy eating plan and rigourous exercise plan. i had never felt better in my life. I have lost a total of 37 lbs. People complimented me like never before and I got rid of all my fat clothes. I went down from a waist size of 36 to a size of 31/32 depending on the brand. I was able to run 6 miles straight, I had never been able to do that before.Overall I felt great. However, recently I have noticed that being thin and fit is not all it is hyped up to be. One example being,I still don't have a significant other or have even started dating. I had always been overweight and I still could lose 15 lbs. so people weren't really attracted to me. However, people still just want to keep me as a friend and they still say the same thing they said to me before" you're not my type but whoever gets you is lucky." Today I went shopping at Kohl's and they had the best sale they had a variety of polo shirts and other shirts marked down to 2 for $10.00 however, they only had sizes that fit me too large. I have noticed this is true for everything.I am actually having to buy more expensive clothes because very rarely do pants my size make it to the clearance/sale rack. If I need to buy a healthy snack it's like $1.50 more to buy baked chips than fried chips. It's $1.00 more to buy whole grain bread than white bread.It's a little more expensive for skim milk. Oranges are like sky high right now.But, I can still get a whole meal at McDonald's for $3.50. I don't know, I Guess I am very unmotivated right now. But today, I guess I cam to the realization that so many people are obese because it really is cheaper in the short run to live the lifestyle of an obese person.Wouldn't you all agree?

Dude you are so right! Fat people are the most successful, the best looking and live longer than anybody else.

I'm gonna gain 10 stone as soon as I can.

:rocker2:

Sugar_Kane
Sep 9th, 2007, 11:13 AM
it's posts like this that thank me for my genetics, I can eat what I like and I never put on weight...which is more of a curse, because I've been trying to put on weight for years and I just can't.

Whitehead's Boy
Sep 9th, 2007, 11:16 AM
Muchrooms aren't a good source enough of proteins, it can't replace meat. Nuts can, though. But you have to eat them with moderation because there are a lot of calories from fat, and it's not really filling.

Whitehead's Boy
Sep 9th, 2007, 11:19 AM
at 32 inches and nearly 6 ft i hardly find clothes my height at clearance stores


Of all the advantages of being thin and healthy, I really fail to see why such a minor detail would matter :confused: It's not like you need to buy clothes every week anyway.

kittyking
Sep 9th, 2007, 11:47 AM
I think everyone knows that healthy food costs more. The basic principal of this is that whole demand/supply/equilibrium thing - fatty food appeals more to people (eg via Advertisements), which increases its demand, which means companies can produce in bulk at cheaper prices per item, and then they can sell it for a lower price while having the same profit margins

stickwitju(ju)
Sep 9th, 2007, 12:27 PM
I think everyone knows that healthy food costs more.

That it does but one does NOT have to buy the cheap fattening foods, does one?

:p

Andy_
Sep 9th, 2007, 12:28 PM
At least for the time being. About a year and a half ago I weighed 202 lbs, as a 20 year old male you might deduce that this was not helping me out socially at all. Frustrated and determined, I went on a healthy eating plan and rigourous exercise plan. i had never felt better in my life.

You definitely make a number of very sensible examples concerning the economic aspect of being fit. The larger size clearance, the cost of chips and McDonald's meals with respect to more health-friendly solutions... but that's a pretty weird thing that happens in the US generally - why would, otherwise, bottled water often cost more than a coke!?

Yet, I think there is one very important thing that you wrote in your post. After embracing your healthier way of life, you realised you'd never felt better in your life.
To me, that is the most important thing you should keep in mind. Sure, you may still not have a significant other, but that might come when you least expect it. People around you value as a person, so really don't lose hope and keep going. And most of all, never cease to love yourself :hug:

CooCooCachoo
Sep 9th, 2007, 01:33 PM
I think everyone knows that healthy food costs more. The basic principal of this is that whole demand/supply/equilibrium thing - fatty food appeals more to people (eg via Advertisements), which increases its demand, which means companies can produce in bulk at cheaper prices per item, and then they can sell it for a lower price while having the same profit margins

It sounds like you just read a chapter in your high school elementary economics book :lol:

Wigglytuff
Sep 9th, 2007, 02:10 PM
So you lost weight to get a girlfriend/boyfriend ?

I hate society :rolleyes:.

Fortunately, with the advent of the internet, there's a niche for everyone if you catch my meaning ;).

:lol: :lol: :lol: :tape: :tape:

Darop.
Sep 9th, 2007, 03:34 PM
I agree with who's saying that eating healthy isn't expensive at all, you just need to look around more, learn to cook a bit and have patience. Of course there are no healthy fast foods. :p

And IMO being healthy and fit shouldn't be done because you want to be attractive, you should just do it for yourself and recognize that it's what's best for you, and make it become a lifestyle. You're "significant other" and other things you want in life will follow I guess:shrug:

And most importantly avoid McDonalds! :scared: :vomit: ;)

Darop.
Sep 9th, 2007, 03:38 PM
I think everyone knows that healthy food costs more. The basic principal of this is that whole demand/supply/equilibrium thing - fatty food appeals more to people (eg via Advertisements), which increases its demand, which means companies can produce in bulk at cheaper prices per item, and then they can sell it for a lower price while having the same profit margins

I don't think that's necessarily true. Of course if you look for only "100% biological" food or other particular foods, then yes, it can be expensive. But rice, pasta, vegetables, legumes, different types of grains aren't expensive.... Well here at least, don't really know about the US.

But I do agree that being unhealthy is much easier than being healthy, but that's just a choice you have to take in life I guess...

cellophane
Sep 9th, 2007, 04:01 PM
I've been eating Lean Cuisine the past two weeks because of the US Open. :tape:

Kart
Sep 9th, 2007, 04:45 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :tape: :tape:

I'm glad someone got it !

Yasmine
Sep 9th, 2007, 05:43 PM
Actually I am lucky enough to live in an area where they make wonderful fruits and veg. And you realise that going to buy the ones on the market is a third cheaper (local producers, and they're much nicer as well) than buying the ones at the supermarket. Obviously most people go to the supermarket to do the rest of their shopping and are not gonna bother go out for fruit and veg elsewhere... although I've always done, just love markets :drool:

CooCooCachoo
Sep 9th, 2007, 08:11 PM
I'm glad someone got it !

You should be glad someone thought it was funny :p I think more people got it, but just didn't think it was that funny :p

CooCooCachoo
Sep 9th, 2007, 08:15 PM
At one fruit & vegetables stall at the weekly market there's this really hot guy :drool: But that's not why I go there :p It's cause it's the cheapest there :haha: But that means it's really busy, so he provides a nice view I guess :angel:

Yasmine
Sep 9th, 2007, 09:34 PM
At one fruit & vegetables stall at the weekly market there's this really hot guy :drool: But that's not why I go there :p It's cause it's the cheapest there :haha: But that means it's really busy, so he provides a nice view I guess :angel:
there is a french expression that says something like: you should always join the 'useful' to the 'pleasure'...

That definitely applies there :lol:

Thanx4nothin
Sep 10th, 2007, 01:16 AM
Well here in Ireland a packet of 'chips' as Americans call them i.e. Crisps are around 50p for a 30 gram bag, or a $ to all y'all Americans, A meal in MacDonalds costs in excess of $8 and Burger King and KFC up to $10 dollars. Ben and Gerries and Hagen Daaz ice cream is $8 dollars a tub. Doughnuts are around $1, chocolate bars the same. A 500ml bottle of coke, fanta whatever is basically $2 dollars. A sandwic in brown bread here is the same cost as white, around $5. A slad is around $4 as well. A normal chicken from the supermarket costs $6, an organic chicken from my local Marks and Spencers was priced at $14 dollars the other day. A few stalks of celery are sround $1.25, a bag of carrots $2, a bag of apples and oranges both around $2. Water here is becomign very expensive actually, the same price as juice at around $2 dollars or more a bottle. Fruit juice or smoothies can cost in excess of $3 for less than half a litre which is appauling. Rice, potatoes, legumes, lettuce and tomatoes etc. are very inexpensive here. However, a bag of almonds could be around $6 from holland and barrots, an ordinary bag of peanuts non flavoured and without salt can be $4 dollars. I would therefore say it is for me more expensive to eat healthily and ENJOY food than it is to eat rubbish.

Expat
Sep 10th, 2007, 02:50 AM
Well here in Ireland a packet of 'chips' as Americans call them i.e. Crisps are around 50p for a 30 gram bag, or a $ to all y'all Americans, A meal in MacDonalds costs in excess of $8 and Burger King and KFC up to $10 dollars. Ben and Gerries and Hagen Daaz ice cream is $8 dollars a tub. Doughnuts are around $1, chocolate bars the same. A 500ml bottle of coke, fanta whatever is basically $2 dollars. A sandwic in brown bread here is the same cost as white, around $5. A slad is around $4 as well. A normal chicken from the supermarket costs $6, an organic chicken from my local Marks and Spencers was priced at $14 dollars the other day. A few stalks of celery are sround $1.25, a bag of carrots $2, a bag of apples and oranges both around $2. Water here is becomign very expensive actually, the same price as juice at around $2 dollars or more a bottle. Fruit juice or smoothies can cost in excess of $3 for less than half a litre which is appauling. Rice, potatoes, legumes, lettuce and tomatoes etc. are very inexpensive here. However, a bag of almonds could be around $6 from holland and barrots, an ordinary bag of peanuts non flavoured and without salt can be $4 dollars. I would therefore say it is for me more expensive to eat healthily and ENJOY food than it is to eat rubbish.
obviously u arent a vegetarian struggling to live in america
its hell out here if u are a vegetarian

Kart
Sep 10th, 2007, 10:19 AM
You should be glad someone thought it was funny :p I think more people got it, but just didn't think it was that funny :p

:bigcry:

I like you.

Jeff
Sep 10th, 2007, 10:42 AM
Well, you have to want to be healthy and fit for yourself, not for others. Furthermore, you have to believe in yourself before others will. You have to want to be healthy for you, otherwise you will find yourself looking for excuses not to be. It's the same for education - most people who get a Master's Degree or particularly a PhD don't do it only for the money, rather they do it because they value the education and what they are studying. Most people who enter Ph.D. programs simply for money or because they were forced by others never finish, because they don't have the proper mindset. You have to believe in yourself and who you are, and do what is best for you, otherwise you'll always seek out excuses to get out of things you never truly wanted to work for to begin with.

Vlad Tepes
Sep 10th, 2007, 10:59 AM
Don't obese persons have to eat more than a thin one :shrug:

kittyking
Sep 10th, 2007, 11:32 AM
Can tell who watched the half hour news hour tonight

That comedian guys mega awesome - I loved his quote 'At least our poor kids are chunky' - its true tho :o