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Expat
Sep 9th, 2007, 03:03 AM
for heavens sake please

mckyle.
Sep 9th, 2007, 03:31 AM
Okay. Sure.

GoDominique
Sep 9th, 2007, 03:31 AM
No.

IceSkaTennisFan
Sep 9th, 2007, 03:47 AM
Maybe :p

NeeemZ
Sep 9th, 2007, 04:01 AM
Would be a good idea.

basset
Sep 9th, 2007, 08:04 AM
i agree. bring the quality points back!!!

DOUBLEFIST
Sep 9th, 2007, 09:09 AM
agreed. Bring them back.

Jeff
Sep 9th, 2007, 09:42 AM
Yes I agree. I think when players are on a heavier end of the draw, quality points definitely reward that.

chloe-l
Sep 9th, 2007, 09:51 AM
No.

hectopascal
Sep 9th, 2007, 10:23 AM
hehe @ all the 1 word answers. No.

Kart
Sep 9th, 2007, 10:25 AM
Play more often or get better results and you wouldn't need them ...

buckyohare
Sep 9th, 2007, 10:30 AM
Yes !!! Let's encourage the top players to play even less than they do already !!

gaggleguy
Sep 9th, 2007, 10:35 AM
No. The old quality point system was very bad designed and did more harm than good.

kittyking
Sep 9th, 2007, 12:13 PM
Yes !!! Let's encourage the top players to play even less than they do already !!

There is not a direct correlation between playing fewer tournaments than they already play to a reduction in tournaments they play if quality points come into effect - the Williams sisters seemed to play more when quality points were around, mainly because they knew it was fairer to players who put all their heart into winning a tournament and then being allowed a week off!

Slutiana
Sep 9th, 2007, 12:26 PM
yes. defenatly.

disco_rage
Sep 9th, 2007, 12:34 PM
How different would the Top 10 look this year if they had quality points? Anyone know?

gaggleguy
Sep 9th, 2007, 12:40 PM
How different would the Top 10 look this year if they had quality points? Anyone know?


quality points favor the players who play less events. So, you can say for sure that Sharapova, and Williams sisters would have better ranking and Jankovic Petrova and Hantuchova would have worse ranking.

almost all the top players are playing more events per year than when there was quality points. 9 of the Top 15 players have more than 20 events in their ranking.

disco_rage
Sep 9th, 2007, 12:45 PM
I thought quality points was based on WHO you beat, not how many events you played?

Wintermute
Sep 9th, 2007, 02:14 PM
I'm sure that when quality points were removed a couple of years ago someone on here worked out that for the top players the removal of quality points barely had any impact on their ranking at all. This talk has arisen because people are complaining about lop-sided draws and Serena continually drawing Justine in the quarters of slams. But it's luck of the draw which half they land in, the only way to avoid it is for Serena to get her ranking right up.

The entry ranking system is supposed to combine a measurement of success with consistency during the 12 month stretch. If a player doesn't play for long periods of time then they need to win most of the tournaments they do play in order to get their ranking up (like Justine has done). If you look at the rankings (http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/2/rankings/singles_numeric.asp) from before the US Open, Serena for example only has 8 tournaments contributing to her ranking points. But the entry system takes the best 17 results. The average tournaments played by everyone ranked above her is almost 20. Conclusion: Serena needs to play more tournaments because she's only won a couple of those she's entered or she needs to win more! The players with the most consistent records on tour this year (Jankovic, Chakvetadze, Kuznetsova) now have a high ranking to boast for it. Quality points won't change it.

VivalaSeles
Sep 9th, 2007, 02:51 PM
http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=316465

VivalaSeles
Sep 9th, 2007, 02:52 PM
Sveta-s total amount of quality points is second only to Juju! So stop bashing Sveta, because she is exactly where she deserves to be - in 2nd in the rankings.

Mileen
Sep 9th, 2007, 03:04 PM
Yes !!! Let's encourage the top players to play even less than they do already !!

no sound reasoning :weirdo: Plus, top players don't play less, don't forget they play more matches going deep into tournaments, that's why for top players it's hard to play 2or 3 consequetive tournies.
Yes, bring the QP back.

VivalaSeles
Sep 9th, 2007, 03:07 PM
Quality points
1. Juju
2. Sveta
3. Jankovic
4. Ivanovic
5. Sharapova
6. Serena
7. Chakvetadze
8. Venus

Check AnnaK_4ever great thread for further details.

Wintermute
Sep 9th, 2007, 03:55 PM
I'm sure that when quality points were removed a couple of years ago someone on here worked out that for the top players the removal of quality points barely had any impact on their ranking at all.

The other thread proves what I was saying. If you add quality points back in the most that happens to the top ten is they change one place if at all. The only effect quality points really have is on much lower-ranked players who score a one-off major upset like knocking a top-tenner out in the early round of a slam. This then inflates their ranking for the next twelve months.

SV_Fan
Sep 9th, 2007, 04:32 PM
What is it?