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brayster87
Sep 9th, 2007, 01:38 AM
Or else they should recieve less prize money than men. Its really unfair that men should go through 4-5 hour matches and women only last 1 hour or so and get equal amounts of money!
Look at the US Open final for instance, its over before we know it!

Discuss what you think?

Avid Merrion
Sep 9th, 2007, 01:39 AM
you really want an extra set of this garbage? :lol: sadist! :p

HippityHop
Sep 9th, 2007, 01:40 AM
Why not have the men play three sets?

Williamsser
Sep 9th, 2007, 01:43 AM
I think that they should play best of 5 in the final.

alias
Sep 9th, 2007, 01:43 AM
:haha:

brayster87
Sep 9th, 2007, 01:44 AM
Why not have the men play three sets?

That's a good point! But women have played best of 5 sets before (can't remember which tournament though)

Williamsser
Sep 9th, 2007, 01:45 AM
That's a good point! But women have played best of 5 sets before (can't remember which tournament though)

WTA Championships when it was played at Madison Square Garden. Steffi Graf beat Martina Hingis in a best of 5 sets.

JSeles
Sep 9th, 2007, 02:46 AM
I suggest both men and women would play best of 3 sets matches in the early rounds. For the quarterfinals, semifinals and finals, both men and women should play best of 5 sets matchs.

mckyle.
Sep 9th, 2007, 02:52 AM
Ok.

Bartoli's Boy
Sep 9th, 2007, 03:04 AM
I think that's a good idea by JSeles. It's blatantly unfair for the women to get equal prize money when they don't have to play five sets, but I don't think they were going to get the equal money any other way. The grand slam organisers probably want to keep three-setters for TV spectators who don't have the time to sit through a match that goes to five. If both men and women played three sets to start off with, they wouldn't lose the concept altogether, and it would kill two birds with one stone... very fast ladies' finals and boring men's early rounds that go on too long.

tennnisfannn
Sep 9th, 2007, 03:04 AM
Perhaps they could make it conditional, if the match looks like it will end in under 70 minutes, then a 5 setter would be declarred. Think of all the gamesmanship that would be involved.

goldenslam888
Sep 9th, 2007, 03:07 AM
u mean to lengthen the finals match, since the scores are always 6-1, 6-2?

eck
Sep 9th, 2007, 03:08 AM
Just curious
How much does the winner of ATP Masters Series earn?
And as well as Tier 1?

Are they the same?

asiandude
Sep 9th, 2007, 03:22 AM
I think that they should play best of 5 in the final.

agree to justify the equal pay...

Expat
Sep 9th, 2007, 03:34 AM
and watch 2 more sets of anna vs sveta good heavens no
those 2 should be paid double to default a match

OrdinaryfoolisNJ
Sep 9th, 2007, 04:00 AM
For me, it works the way that it is. Men playing the best of 5 ALL during a GS and the women best of 3. Its not the time spent on the court that counts, but who is playing, and how many butts they can entice to pay for tickets to fill seats.

Bringing up the women don't deserve equal pay is meant to insight negativity. They ARE getting equal pay, and that's THAT! Even John McEnroe has gotten with the program.

Atrixo
Sep 9th, 2007, 04:47 AM
I suggest both men and women would play best of 3 sets matches in the early rounds. For the quarterfinals, semifinals and finals, both men and women should play best of 5 sets matchs.

I think this would be the best format for both the women and men. Except I would make them play best of five, starting from the 4th round onward. That way, there wouldn't be a log jam in the earlier rounds; and the later rounds (where there's more time) can be allowed to go on longer.

Plus, this would (should) shut up all the naysayers about equal prize money at the grand slams.

Polikarpov
Sep 9th, 2007, 04:56 AM
I could just imagine the Chakvetadze-Kuznetsova match going into five sets. Plus the tour's suffering from loads of withdrawals from tournaments due to injuries. This would make it worse.

Well, maybe a best-of-five in the Final. That's OK, I guess.

canoe.
Sep 9th, 2007, 06:39 AM
I felt I just didn't move to the ball well enough because I was pretty tight."
Take a fucking Valium.
Maybe they should just stop choking, and get the stick out of their ass, and try to be more professional.For many of these girls playing with any type of intensity, and guts seems to be beyond them. :o :rolleyes:

stickwitju(ju)
Sep 9th, 2007, 10:16 AM
Or else they should recieve less prize money than men. Its really unfair that men should go through 4-5 hour matches and women only last 1 hour or so and get equal amounts of money!
Look at the US Open final for instance, its over before we know it!

Discuss what you think?

OK. Then I take it that you don't mind final scores like...

7-5-4-6 6-1 0-6 1-0 ret.

:rocker:

terjw
Sep 9th, 2007, 10:47 AM
WTA Championships when it was played at Madison Square Garden. Steffi Graf beat Martina Hingis in a best of 5 sets.

Yep that was a 5 setter - and anyone who ever saw that match should be put off for life about women playing 5 sets. Stefi struggling with her back and Matina could varely move with cramps in the final set. Yuk. Keep it the way it is. If anything I'd change it so that the men only played 5 set matches from the quarter finals on and 3 set matches before that. That would reduce the eternity players are kept waiting for their match to start.

As for equal pay - I was never convinced on the merits of that. But they've done it now and that has been settled now. They aren't goinig to go back now. And that is simply that.

gaggleguy
Sep 9th, 2007, 10:55 AM
now that they have equal pay the disscussions are going to focus on why the difference in # of sets.

Nobody can deny that this differential is a type of sex discrimination. Problem is, what to do about it.

Max565
Sep 9th, 2007, 10:58 AM
Just leave it the way it is...

Bartoli's Boy
Sep 9th, 2007, 01:38 PM
Just because Steffi and Martina struggled to play a five setter doesn't mean that women couldn't adjust to it. If you're used to only playing three, you're going to find it tough at first, because not only do you need more endurance but you need to know when to deliberately conserve energy. How many times do we hear the same thing on the men's tour, where the younger players in particular will struggle in long GS matches because they're also used to playing three.

Women can run the marathon perfectly well, so why couldn't they learn to play five sets? In many ways, it's a relic of the old-fashioned view that women are terribly weak and struggle to do anything physical.

meyerpl
Sep 9th, 2007, 01:56 PM
Being not so fond of sitting down in front of a match and having it turn into a 4 or 5 hour marathon, I'm in favor of the 3 set format.