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Serenidad.
Sep 9th, 2007, 01:32 AM
Kuznetsova. I'm with Carillo and Johnny Mac. Bring back Quality Points or change the ranking system. It is clear Kuznetsova and Jankovic is not equivalent to their ranking.

A Magicman
Sep 9th, 2007, 01:34 AM
Quality points and the old system of average points - and counting ALL tournaments.

That will make a better ranking.

@Sweet Cleopatra
Sep 9th, 2007, 01:45 AM
or may be the players _ all of them _ as they know the ranking system should play well all time , not as Williams who leave themselves in bad form all year and then want to enter the grand slams with 1 and 2 ranking .
the players know the ranking system very well .
and what's the quality points ?

Serenidad.
Sep 9th, 2007, 01:46 AM
If you don't know what quality points are don't comment on this thread. You clearly know nothing. Clearly, a Sharapova fan.

SvetaPleaseWin.
Sep 9th, 2007, 01:52 AM
Kuznetsova. I'm with Carillo and Johnny Mac. Bring back Quality Points or change the ranking system. It is clear Kuznetsova and Jankovic is not equivalent to their ranking.

have you any more kuznetsova bashing threads to post :rolleyes:

of course venus and serena should be ranked higher but they are always injured-unless they change the ranking system to how many tournys you pull out of, the only way things will change is if they play more.
sharapova, jankovic and ivanovic dont deserve no.2-as ive said a million times, aside from henin everyone is pretty close and sadly none of them are playing consistently great tennis and most of them lack belief

sveta is no.2 deal with it

goldenlox
Sep 9th, 2007, 01:54 AM
Who deserves #2? Sveta beat Venus this year. She beat Justine on clay. This is her 6th final of 2007.

Nicolás89
Sep 9th, 2007, 01:57 AM
Who deserves #2? Sveta beat Venus this year. She beat Justine on clay. This is her 6th final of 2007.

and she sucked on all the finals except the one when the other player retired.

@Sweet Cleopatra
Sep 9th, 2007, 02:00 AM
you want Williams to be rank 1 and 2 even if they played grand slams only , no , you must deal with idea that ranking is your hard work all over the year , but not morre than 17 tournement , cause this'll lead to injuries to females .
and I'm honest I don't know the quality points , I could lie and say I know , but I don't and I want to know it .

cellophane
Sep 9th, 2007, 02:03 AM
Rankings aren't the problem. It's rather that Justine is head and shoulders above the rest right now. A lot of the top 10 are mediocre compared to her.

Expat
Sep 9th, 2007, 02:06 AM
Rankings aren't the problem. It's rather that Justine is head and shoulders above the rest right now. A lot of the top 10 are mediocre compared to her.at least some of them are competitive ie the williams sisters and jelena

SvetaPleaseWin.
Sep 9th, 2007, 02:07 AM
and she sucked on all the finals except the one when the other player retired.

at least shes got to 6 finals this year-better than most of the top 10

cellophane
Sep 9th, 2007, 02:09 AM
at least some of them are competitive ie the williams sisters and jelena

Well, the Williams Sisters would be ranked higher if they played more.... so it's not really the fault of the system that they are ranked lower than where they should be.

SvetaPleaseWin.
Sep 9th, 2007, 02:10 AM
Well, the Williams Sisters would be ranked higher if they played more.... so it's not really the fault of the system that they are ranked lower than where they should be.

exactly :worship: venus and serena dont really care about rankings, they know if they play their best they can beat everybody
the system is not to blame

Yonexforever
Sep 9th, 2007, 02:11 AM
AN over simplification of Qaulity Points as i remember, basically is awarding MORE points for the higher ranked players you beat no?
Correct as you like...

SvetaPleaseWin.
Sep 9th, 2007, 02:12 AM
Kuznetsova. I'm with Carillo and Johnny Mac. Bring back Quality Points or change the ranking system. It is clear Kuznetsova and Jankovic is not equivalent to their ranking.

so going by the title of this thread, you think that sveta has the same skill level as sophie ferguson? and you expect people to take you seriously...

BK4ever
Sep 9th, 2007, 02:12 AM
Leave Sveta alone. She earned the points. Now if you want to rank by mental capacity, then clearly Sveta would not even make top ten sadly :banghead:

goldenlox
Sep 9th, 2007, 02:20 AM
Quality points wouldn't change anything. Sveta beat a lot of high ranked players. Like Justine, Anna, Venus, Dementieva, Petrova.
She would still be 2.

eck
Sep 9th, 2007, 02:38 AM
How would quality points look like now anyways?

Marcus1979
Sep 9th, 2007, 02:40 AM
these are Kuzzies top 20 wins this year prior to US Open

Dubai
- Schnyder (13)

Doha
- Hantuchova (19)

Indian Wells
- Vaidisova (10)

Berlin
- Petrova (9)
- Henin (1)

Rome
- Safina (9)
- Hantuchova (14)

Roland Garros
- Peer (17)

New Haven
- Dementieva (15)

Expat
Sep 9th, 2007, 02:42 AM
these are Kuzzies top 20 wins this year prior to US Open

Dubai
- Schnyder (13)

Doha
- Hantuchova (19)

Indian Wells
- Vaidisova (10)

Berlin
- Petrova (9)
- Henin (1)

Rome
- Safina (9)
- Hantuchova (14)

Roland Garros
- Peer (17)

New Haven
- Dementieva (15)

so basically except justine once none of the top real players

SvetaPleaseWin.
Sep 9th, 2007, 02:45 AM
these are Kuzzies top 20 wins this year prior to US Open

Dubai
- Schnyder (13)

Doha
- Hantuchova (19)

Indian Wells
- Vaidisova (10)

Berlin
- Petrova (9)
- Henin (1)

Rome
- Safina (9)
- Hantuchova (14)

Roland Garros
- Peer (17)

New Haven
- Dementieva (15)

ok so as everyone was so happy with maria-lets look at her top 20 wins

AO
-Chakvetadze (13)
-Clijsters (5)

FO
-Schnyder (15)
-Chakvetadze (9)

Birmingham
-Bartoli (20)

San Diego
-Golovin (19)
-Chakvetadze (6)

LA
-Dementieva (13)

ummm impressive, thank fuck for chakvetadze hey?

canuckfan
Sep 9th, 2007, 02:47 AM
You should all be happy.

If Sveta's that bad, it means an easy draw for all your faves who end up in her part of the draw in the next few months.

Marcus1979
Sep 9th, 2007, 02:48 AM
I am not hating on Sveta I was more like responding to goldenlox who said even with Quality pts she would be still be #2

SvetaPleaseWin.
Sep 9th, 2007, 02:51 AM
I am not hating on Sveta I was more like responding to goldenlox who said even with Quality pts she would be still be #2

i know-im just getting annoyed at people laying into sveta when shes had a better or similar year to the other players in line for the #2 spot

skanky~skanketta
Sep 9th, 2007, 02:54 AM
You know what, leave them alone. Sveta beat who was put in front of her. True, she SUCKS in finals, but give the girl a break! She's got game and we all know it. And she's made the same amount of slam finals as sharapova. You're all dissing her simply cuz she's more understated than most other player.That's not her fault.

oh, and i just realized, she's made the doubles finals of ALL the Slams.

VivalaSeles
Sep 9th, 2007, 03:48 AM
at least some of them are competitive ie the williams sisters and jelena

Jelena???? She has NEVER beaten Juju, a feat Sveta has already carried out.

pkilli
Sep 9th, 2007, 03:49 AM
Sveta deserved to be no.2 period. Leave her alone...Another pointless thread :o

matty
Sep 9th, 2007, 04:24 AM
Sveta has the sweetest personality!

Experimentee
Sep 9th, 2007, 05:33 AM
Based on form this year I think Jankovic or even Ivanovic should be #2 instead of Sveta. I like Sveta but she just hasnt played that well this year at all.

Taking away quality points was a big mistake. I think Jankovic and Ivanovic have had better wins than Sveta this year.

KoOlMaNsEaN
Sep 9th, 2007, 05:38 AM
Quality points and the old system of average points - and counting ALL tournaments.

Couldn't have said it better

northern lad
Sep 9th, 2007, 08:13 AM
I like Sveta but she just hasnt played that well this year at all.

because making it to 6 finals isn't playing well...

svetaisthebest
Sep 9th, 2007, 08:14 AM
Sveta does deserve to be number 2 in the world .The only other players who could possibly deserve to take this spot are the Williams sisters but Sveta was better than the rest of the top ten this year and deseves to be number 2

FrOzon
Sep 9th, 2007, 08:37 AM
Quality points wouldn't change anything. Sveta beat a lot of high ranked players. Like Justine, Anna, Venus, Dementieva, Petrova.
She would still be 2.

That's it! Quality points are just making the rankings more complicated but they don't change too much... it's nothing but excuses, Sveta is a deserved No. 2!

Jenny.C.Fan
Sep 9th, 2007, 09:08 AM
Sveta has worked hard to reach number two, and has had a great year, so lay off her and cut her some slack, she deserves this ranking.

mankind
Sep 9th, 2007, 09:11 AM
Making the finals of Doha, Indian Wells, Berlin, Rome and the US Open grants her the No.2 rank. One of the main factors that eludes the top ranking for her is the fact that she has lost all 5 finals. :help:

Her ranking will drop soon enough unless she starts pulling herself together mentally.

jazzfuzion
Sep 9th, 2007, 09:17 AM
if reaching six finals(mostly tier1s at that) is equivalent to the skills of a player ranked 200 then i highly suspect that you have a single shred of logic at all,up in that puny weeny little piece of shit that you call a brain,clearly something that is far beyond your reach since you were born without one.

Kart
Sep 9th, 2007, 09:22 AM
I could have sworn I saw Sveta contesting the US open final last night against the world no.1.

I can think of worse results to have in the week you achieve the second highest ranking.

gmak
Sep 9th, 2007, 09:41 AM
sure 5 finals, 1 slam final...
what a disgrace for a world no2! :rolleyes: :o

why do i bother replying to troll threads?