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Drake1980
Sep 7th, 2007, 03:53 AM
Does anyone ever play Tournaments in the GLTA( Gay Lesbian Tennis Alliance), which is a gay Tennis Tour? There is probably like 50 Tournaments a year around the world.

Brett.
Sep 7th, 2007, 03:55 AM
I played three matches in the gay tournament, but not a tour! :D It was fun, really. :D

Drake1980
Sep 7th, 2007, 04:09 AM
By Tour I mean a series of Gay Tournaments. Where did you play?

Brett.
Sep 7th, 2007, 04:14 AM
In Melbourne.

tenn_ace
Apr 11th, 2009, 01:05 PM
Whta tournaments did you play at? Share your experiences! :bounce:

tenn_ace
Apr 11th, 2009, 07:16 PM
so nobody plays or nobody wants to admit? ;)

CloudAtlas
Apr 11th, 2009, 09:04 PM
What is GLTA?

_marial_
Apr 11th, 2009, 09:06 PM
What is GLTA?

I wanted to ask the same :lol:

tenn_ace
Apr 11th, 2009, 09:56 PM
Gay Lesbian Tennis Alliance

CarniceroLarry
Apr 11th, 2009, 11:03 PM
"Gay Lesbian"? As opposed to straight lesbian?

Legend1
Apr 11th, 2009, 11:10 PM
"Gay Lesbian"? As opposed to straight lesbian?

:lol::lol::lol:

Jguerrica
Apr 11th, 2009, 11:17 PM
I am a definite GLTA'er...I'm playing a tournament next weekend in New Orleans! After that, I'll be playing the New York tournament which is played at the US Open during 4th of July...I'm also on the National Board of the GLTA - we have almost 60 tournaments around the world... check us out at www.glta.net

tenn_ace
Apr 11th, 2009, 11:30 PM
"Gay Lesbian"? As opposed to straight lesbian?

would have been funny if it wasn't moronic :wavey:

tenn_ace
Apr 11th, 2009, 11:34 PM
I am a definite GLTA'er...I'm playing a tournament next weekend in New Orleans! After that, I'll be playing the New York tournament which is played at the US Open during 4th of July...I'm also on the National Board of the GLTA - we have almost 60 tournaments around the world... check us out at www.glta.net (http://www.glta.net)

yeah I have just registered to play the biggest one in Europe - Pinkster in Amsterdam. Also, thinking of playing Zurich, Prague, London, Manchester and Palm Springs and possibly Provincetown. :bounce:

Looking forward to not only playing but also partying at a players' party v;)

frenchie
Apr 11th, 2009, 11:39 PM
Such a circuit actually exists:eek::eek:

No offense but I find it ridiculous:rolleyes:
You have to be gay or lesbian to play those tournaments? Do you need to pass a sexuality test to commit?:lol:

That being said I'd like to watch a few matches
I'm sure it's full of flamboyant stereotypes of gay guys:lol:

tenn_ace
Apr 11th, 2009, 11:49 PM
Such a circuit actually exists:eek::eek:

No offense but I find it ridiculous:rolleyes:
You have to be gay or lesbian to play those tournaments? Do you need to pass a sexuality test to commit?:lol:

That being said I'd like to watch a few matches
I'm sure it's full of flamboyant stereotypes of gay guys:lol:

nothing wrong with this kind of tour... straight players could also participate in these tournaments - nobody asks them whether they are gay or not. The only thing they are asked is not to be homophobic.

frenchie
Apr 11th, 2009, 11:51 PM
nothing wrong with this kind of tour... straight players could also participate in these tournaments - nobody asks them whether they are gay or not. The only thing they are asked is not to be homophobic.

OK thanks for the explanation;)
I never heard of that before

tennisvideos
Apr 12th, 2009, 12:50 AM
I play the Sydney events - we have two major tournaments a year. They used to form part of the GLTA tour but we decided to pull them from the official international schedule because whenever we went to play an overseas event we were disadvantaged by the grading.

Also try to play the Gay Gaymes every 4 years which are held in a different city just like the Olympics. In 2002 I won the Over 35 Mixed Gold Medal with Chris O'Neil (former Aussie Open Champion of 1978) and made the QFs of the Doubles. My good friend won the Open Singles and Open Doubles and together we have won some other events eg. London International Open doubles (and he won singles) etc. Over 1000 people played in the tennis events at the 2002 Sydney Gay Gaymes, so it is hugely popular and it is not a stereotypical gay event as many would think - most of the players probably look and play just like your average club and tournament player, but thankfully you do get a few more colourful and eccentric players to make it more fun and interesting! :)

We have our own Gay and Lesbian tour in Sydney and we have a few 'straight' players competing with us as well. And the standard is very good ... with some of the players competing at the highest levels in the Sydney tennis events as well eg. State grade etc. Some are regularly selected to represent Australia in the teams at the World Veteran's championships etc (these are for all players worldwide over 35yo). So it's a very high standard but also there are all grades catered for in the Sydney G&L tour eg. A, B, C and D Grades.

tenn_ace
Apr 12th, 2009, 10:04 AM
I play the Sydney events - we have two major tournaments a year. They used to form part of the GLTA tour but we decided to pull them from the official international schedule because whenever we went to play an overseas event we were disadvantaged by the grading.

Also try to play the Gay Gaymes every 4 years which are held in a different city just like the Olympics. In 2002 I won the Over 35 Mixed Gold Medal with Chris O'Neil (former Aussie Open Champion of 1978) and made the QFs of the Doubles. My good friend won the Open Singles and Open Doubles and together we have won some other events eg. London International Open doubles (and he won singles) etc. Over 1000 people played in the tennis events at the 2002 Sydney Gay Gaymes, so it is hugely popular and it is not a stereotypical gay event as many would think - most of the players probably look and play just like your average club and tournament player, but thankfully you do get a few more colourful and eccentric players to make it more fun and interesting! :)

We have our own Gay and Lesbian tour in Sydney and we have a few 'straight' players competing with us as well. And the standard is very good ... with some of the players competing at the highest levels in the Sydney tennis events as well eg. State grade etc. Some are regularly selected to represent Australia in the teams at the World Veteran's championships etc (these are for all players worldwide over 35yo). So it's a very high standard but also there are all grades catered for in the Sydney G&L tour eg. A, B, C and D Grades.
I was a little surprised not to see tournaments in Sydney... Hope one day you guys re-consider! :bounce: Would love to play a Sydney tournament one day.
This year the World Outgames is in Denmark as far as I know. Could anyone participate in them or are they by invitation only? In general, this have to be one of the friendliest competitive environment you can find. I belong to a local GLTA league and we also have some 'straight' players and so what? They are all nice and friendly and obviously NOT homophobic. And the eccentricity they have to deal is :rolls: But that's another story.

tennisvideos
Apr 12th, 2009, 11:04 AM
I was a little surprised not to see tournaments in Sydney... Hope one day you guys re-consider! :bounce: Would love to play a Sydney tournament one day.
This year the World Outgames is in Denmark as far as I know. Could anyone participate in them or are they by invitation only? In general, this have to be one of the friendliest competitive environment you can find. I belong to a local GLTA league and we also have some 'straight' players and so what? They are all nice and friendly and obviously NOT homophobic. And the eccentricity they have to deal is :rolls: But that's another story.

Yes the World Outgames are also open to all - you don't have to be invited. Just like the Gay Gaymes. I agree, the GLTA events (and Tennis Sydney events) are so friendly and that is why I love playing gay & lesbian tennis. You don't seem to see or experience the same level of aggressive behaviour that you see on the regular tour and events. People seem to be more accepting, tolerant and sporting. Of course that is a generalisation, but in my experience of playing competition for 30 years it is on the mark. Likewise, the straight players that compete with us on our tour are some of the most friendly and sporting I have ever met.

Sydney could join up again one day, but only if they change the rules on averaging one tournament result and multiplying it by 6 to grade you. One Final in Sydney means you have made 6 finals and therefore automatically have to be graded higher. That turns us off joining the tour.

CarniceroLarry
Apr 12th, 2009, 04:21 PM
CarniceroLarry
"Gay Lesbian"? As opposed to straight lesbian?

tenn ace
would have been funny if it wasn't moronic

CarniceroLarry
Maybe they should change name. I thought the term "gay" could be for men or women, "Gay: A person whose sexual orientation is to persons of the same sex". So there is no need to call it both words "gay" and "lesbian". Just call it GTA, not GLTA.

serenus_2k8
Apr 12th, 2009, 04:47 PM
:rolleyes: Whats wrong with integrating with straight tennis players?

manutoo
Apr 12th, 2009, 05:20 PM
Omg is there really such need for this tour :help:

tenn_ace
Apr 12th, 2009, 05:29 PM
everyone is invited. and yes, there is a need for such tour as some gay guys ARE feminine they may not be welcome or feel welcome in 'staight' leagues. also this is not just for competing but socializing as well.

tenn_ace
Apr 12th, 2009, 05:31 PM
:rolleyes: Whats wrong with integrating with straight tennis players?

can you keep attnetion for more than 2 sentences? then read the posts again.

serenus_2k8
Apr 12th, 2009, 05:31 PM
So what about all the straight people who wont feel comfortable playing on this tour? Would you like it if ATP or WTA changed to ''Straight Womens Tennis Association'' or SATP? But then said...oh gay people can play too if they want.....

Its insane....

Cat in the hat
Apr 12th, 2009, 05:39 PM
I play on the tour and agree it's great fun. We even have our own world rankings!
My next event is in Dusseldorf next month and will also be playing Manchester and Palm Springs this year. Jguerrica, I think I saw you play in Tampa last year, you play great.
That must be great tennisvideos to play and win with a grand slam champion!!! That's interesting to hear about the Sydney tennis club, I might pop in next time I'm visiting my sis!

tenn_ace
Apr 12th, 2009, 05:42 PM
So what about all the straight people who wont feel comfortable playing on this tour? Would you like it if ATP or WTA changed to ''Straight Womens Tennis Association'' or SATP? But then said...oh gay people can play too if they want.....

Its insane....
god, are you stupid, do you want me to spell it out? if a straight person is comfortable around gay people some of whom are eccentric and they want to play on this tour - THEY ARE WELCOME. if they are not comfortable and do not want to play, then don't play.

and comparing to ATP and WTA is incredibly STUPID as playing on a professional tour is a job that puts bread on a table. glta is a social league.

tenn_ace
Apr 12th, 2009, 05:44 PM
I play on the tour and agree it's great fun. We even have our own world rankings!
My next event is in Dusseldorf next month and will also be playing Manchester and Palm Springs this year. Jguerrica, I think I saw you play in Tampa last year, you play great.
That must be great tennisvideos to play and win with a grand slam champion!!! That's interesting to hear about the Sydney tennis club, I might pop in next time I'm visiting my sis!

I was debating between Dusseldorf and Amsterdam and decided to go to AMsterdam. Maybe I will play in Dusseldorf next year. What event are you playing? PS. Good luck!

serenus_2k8
Apr 12th, 2009, 05:57 PM
god, are you stupid, do you want me to spell it out? if a straight person is comfortable around gay people some of whom are eccentric and they want to play on this tour - THEY ARE WELCOME. if they are not comfortable and do not want to play, then don't play.

and comparing to ATP and WTA is incredibly STUPID as playing on a professional tour is a job that puts bread on a table. glta is a social league.

Wow your such a great advertisment! Is everyone who plays in this league so rude and socially inept? Have fun with your socially divisive league, though God forbid one day people will just play sports for the fun, regardless of their sexuality :rolleyes:

~{X}~
Apr 12th, 2009, 06:00 PM
I think a way to look at this is like a Gay or Lesbian club(as in a dance club.) It's catered towards the Gay, Lesbian crowd but straight people aren't discouraged to enter and can. It's open to all, just catered to a specific group.

Cat in the hat
Apr 12th, 2009, 06:01 PM
I've been to Amsterdam two years ago it's one of the best tournaments, think it's moved it's venue this year and isn't on clay anymore. I just wanted something a bit smaller and a bit more low key plus I really wanted to visit Germany. There is a little group of us guys from Manchester going. I'm playing B doubles and C singles. What about you? Thanks and good luck in Amsterdam too

tenn_ace
Apr 12th, 2009, 06:01 PM
Wow your such a great advertisment! Is everone who plays in this league so rude and socially inept? Have fun with your socially divisive league, though God forbid one day people will just play sports for the fun, regardless of their sexuality :rolleyes:

We will have fun - no worries. And again, since obviously you can't comprehend, nobody will ask you about your sexuality if you ever decide to give it a try. PS. By the way, league doesn;t have ot advertise - it is popular anyway.

tenn_ace
Apr 12th, 2009, 06:06 PM
I've been to Amsterdam two years ago it's one of the best tournaments, think it's moved it's venue this year and isn't on clay anymore. I just wanted something a bit smaller and a bit more low key plus I really wanted to visit Germany. There is a little group of us guys from Manchester going. I'm playing B doubles and C singles. What about you? Thanks and good luck in Amsterdam too

Amsterdam is not clay anymore? Damn, I was so looking forward to it. Also, for the reason that I have never played on red clay before, I decided to play C singles and C doubles. Besides, who cares how far I will go - going there to enjoy, party and just have a good time.

Thanks for good luck. May come to Manchester if don't go to Provincetown.

Cat in the hat
Apr 12th, 2009, 06:16 PM
Sorry my bad, I've just checked the website and it says it's on clay so maybe they haven't changed the venue yet. What tempts you about Provincetown? I don't even know what part of the states it is. Is there a secret gay resort there that I haven't heard about or something?

TennisFan75
Apr 12th, 2009, 06:22 PM
i like the events, i play Boston and Provincetown every year, lots of fun every year. I played the gay games in chicago in 06, and I registered for the 2010 games in germany as well :)

Jekyll
Apr 12th, 2009, 06:28 PM
Wow your such a great advertisment! Is everyone who plays in this league so rude and socially inept? Have fun with your socially divisive league, though God forbid one day people will just play sports for the fun, regardless of their sexuality :rolleyes:

There are several clubs GLTA around the world, and you would be surprised if you saw the level of them. In my case, I'm in one, and I play in other different clubs and leagues, tournaments that are supposed to be straight. I don't see the point of this argue..:o

Obviously speaking in amateur terms, if a gay/lesbian/straight person wanna play professional, he/she would play in ATP/WTA. There are some other leagues like, collegue-leagues in USA or Europe.. I don't see what's the matter. It's a question of plurality, we don't pretend with that to change World, but besides the politics and demonstrations, it's a good form of advance in human rights without stereotips!

I'm looking forward to play on Barcelona and maybe Zurich or Amsterdam.. if I had enought time I would play more tournaments

tenn_ace
Apr 12th, 2009, 06:34 PM
Sorry my bad, I've just checked the website and it says it's on clay so maybe they haven't changed the venue yet. What tempts you about Provincetown? I don't even know what part of the states it is. Is there a secret gay resort there that I haven't heard about or something?

Provincetown is probably the gayest place in the US (per capita). They have great beaches, lousy night clubs and I have a flat not so far from P-town ;). It is in Massachussetts. The most eastern point of the US.

feliciano_lopez
Apr 12th, 2009, 07:25 PM
does someone (gay) want talk with me on MSN??? contact me guys per PM ... i will send you my MSN..... :wavey:

huge tennis fan here :D i am looking for tennis friend all around the world... ;)

feliciano_lopez
Apr 12th, 2009, 09:31 PM
there is tennis tournament in Munich too :D wow :hearts:

http://glta.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/tournament.aspx?id=B9A5024A-0DFE-40D4-9126-DB1645AB298A

tennisvideos
Apr 13th, 2009, 12:44 AM
Wow your such a great advertisment! Is everyone who plays in this league so rude and socially inept? Have fun with your socially divisive league, though God forbid one day people will just play sports for the fun, regardless of their sexuality :rolleyes:

I think you hit the nail on the head ... playing for fun. One of the reasons the GLTA tour was set up was so that openly gay and lesbian people could play competitive tennis without being tormented by homophobic people - ie. other players, officials etc. This way they have a tour where they can be themselves, have fun, feel safe and not intimidated or threatened in any way. And it is NOT divisive as you mention, as there are many straight players who do play and they are all welcome. But homophobia is not welcome! And there is the key to the whole tour.

It means the tour is FUN, FRIENDLY, TOLERANT, and NON-THREATENING to all. Competitive tennis played in a more friendly way.

I played the so called 'normal' leagues for years and there was often very aggressive behaviour as well as a lot of homophobia - yes, so called straight men even bitching to other teams about our team being poofters etc. Well you know what, it gets tired. So we don't have any of that on our tour - we have fun, laughs, great tennis and as far as I am concerned it is probably as close to playing tennis in heaven as you can get. :)

Caillou
Apr 13th, 2009, 04:02 AM
i wish i could play in a lesbian league;)

~Eclipsed~
Apr 13th, 2009, 04:31 AM
CarniceroLarry
"Gay Lesbian"? As opposed to straight lesbian?

tenn ace
would have been funny if it wasn't moronic

CarniceroLarry
Maybe they should change name. I thought the term "gay" could be for men or women, "Gay: A person whose sexual orientation is to persons of the same sex". So there is no need to call it both words "gay" and "lesbian". Just call it GTA, not GLTA.

I'm pretty sure it's defined as such because gay usually refers to men and lesbian refers to women.

I heard of this league before. Hmm maybe i'll join, I want to play more tournaments this year and this seems like an interesting league to be apart of. :cool:

CoryAnnAvants#1
Apr 13th, 2009, 05:24 AM
What is the quality of players who are in these events? A friend of mine suggested entering the July event in my hometown of NYC since I play in USTA tournaments anyway, but the whole concept sounded a little ridiculous. It seemed like they might as well have asked me to compete in the Special Olympics. There's no physical or mental handicap to being gay. It's not as though I'm so distracted by dick that I'm unable to play a 2 out of 3 set match ;)

If it's just supposed to be a fun and social event then that's one thing, but if it's a whole tournament of people being super competitive and trying to prove themselves as the best gay tennis player in the land...forget it.

tenn_ace
Apr 13th, 2009, 07:13 AM
What is the quality of players who are in these events? A friend of mine suggested entering the July event in my hometown of NYC since I play in USTA tournaments anyway, but the whole concept sounded a little ridiculous. It seemed like they might as well have asked me to compete in the Special Olympics. There's no physical or mental handicap to being gay. It's not as though I'm so distracted by dick that I'm unable to play a 2 out of 3 set match ;)

If it's just supposed to be a fun and social event then that's one thing, but if it's a whole tournament of people being super competitive and trying to prove themselves as the best gay tennis player in the land...forget it.

from beginners in division D to a top college level in the Open division - you can find any level.
As tennisvideos said, these tournaments are a lot friendlier and there is more sportsmanship comparing to 'normal' tournaments, say USTA. And don forget about the players' parties which are a lof of fin!!! Go onto websites of tournaments and chek out the pics. One last thing - a lot of tournaments donate to charities, do some charity work locally (with youth, etc.). Sorry, but I don't know any 'normal' USTA tournaments that would do the same......

feliciano_lopez
Apr 13th, 2009, 03:38 PM
from beginners in division D to a top college level in the Open division - you can find any level.
As tennisvideos said, these tournaments are a lot friendlier and there is more sportsmanship comparing to 'normal' tournaments, say USTA. And don forget about the players' parties which are a lof of fin!!! Go onto websites of tournaments and chek out the pics. One last thing - a lot of tournaments donate to charities, do some charity work locally (with youth, etc.). Sorry, but I don't know any 'normal' USTA tournaments that would do the same......

but how can i find out, what a level should i play? :confused:

tenn_ace
Apr 13th, 2009, 04:34 PM
but how can i find out, what a level should i play? :confused:

are you rated in your country? if you are, here is a link to conversion table
http://www.glta.net/divisions.htm (http://www.glta.net/divisions.htm)

feliciano_lopez
Apr 13th, 2009, 06:56 PM
are you rated in your country? if you are, here is a link to conversion table
http://www.glta.net/divisions.htm (http://www.glta.net/divisions.htm)


well, and if i dont play any league in my country? just recreationally?

Cat in the hat
Apr 13th, 2009, 08:24 PM
how many years have you been playing tennis? have you had any coaching?
As tenn ace said before level D is quite basic up to Open which is college standard tennis. If your closer to beginners level play in C otherwise A or B

feliciano_lopez
Apr 13th, 2009, 09:42 PM
how many years have you been playing tennis? have you had any coaching?
As tenn ace said before level D is quite basic up to Open which is college standard tennis. If your closer to beginners level play in C otherwise A or B

i play 10th season i think.... no, i haven´t had coaching, i just practised with my brother and some better players..... my 1st serve is quite ok, forhand and backhand too, 2nd serve sometimes very poor and volley are not good too.... i am not begginer but i may be crushed by junior player.... so i dont know find out my level....

tenn_ace
Apr 21st, 2009, 10:48 PM
i play 10th season i think.... no, i haven´t had coaching, i just practised with my brother and some better players..... my 1st serve is quite ok, forhand and backhand too, 2nd serve sometimes very poor and volley are not good too.... i am not begginer but i may be crushed by junior player.... so i dont know find out my level....


check out this site
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/newspage.html?cref=2337

this is the US rating. once you self rate according to the guidance in that website, then go to the glta website (link in one of the previous posts) and convert it into GLTA rating

jjlove
Apr 22nd, 2009, 11:48 AM
I also play GLTA tournaments in B, so far this year I played in Eindhoven and Paris and I am going to Amsterdam, Madrid and Barcelona. By the way, Amsterdam has changed venue but is still played in clay.

Blackbeat
Apr 22nd, 2009, 03:41 PM
Maybe I´m going to play in dusseldorf. If I get some clay practice before. But which level?

I´m playing for 6 or 7 years, played in a club with coach and club matches...Since two years not in the club anymore...but playing since 5 month regulary...

jjlove
Apr 22nd, 2009, 03:46 PM
Maybe I´m going to play in dusseldorf. If I get some clay practice before. But which level?

I´m playing for 6 or 7 years, played in a club with coach and club matches...Since two years not in the club anymore...but playing since 5 month regulary...

Well if you have been playing for 6-7 years with coach you should play B minimum.

Blackbeat
Apr 22nd, 2009, 03:53 PM
Well if you have been playing for 6-7 years with coach you should play B minimum.

Thx...well just read the GLTA Division Standards Guideline on the web...

I played in the "youth" and for the mens the most years in the "Bezirksliga" - and a few matches in the "Verbandsliga"

Maybe i should enter A...

jjlove
Apr 22nd, 2009, 03:56 PM
Thx...well just read the GLTA Division Standards Guideline on the web...

I played in the "youth" and for the mens the most years in the "Bezirksliga" - and a few matches in the "Verbandsliga"

Maybe i should enter A...

To be honest I have never read these guidelines so I cannot help you much but if that is what it says then you should play A definitely. I think is best that you play A because if you are good then your opponents will be pissed off if you beat them easily :devil:

Blackbeat
Apr 22nd, 2009, 04:02 PM
To be honest I have never read these guidelines so I cannot help you much but if that is what it says then you should play A definitely. I think is best that you play A because if you are good then your opponents will be pissed off if you beat them easily :devil:

yeah thats true...but its clay...i´m hating clay...:lol:

feliciano_lopez
Apr 22nd, 2009, 08:33 PM
check out this site
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/newspage.html?cref=2337

this is the US rating. once you self rate according to the guidance in that website, then go to the glta website (link in one of the previous posts) and convert it into GLTA rating


then i am somewhere between 4.5 and 5.0 maybe.... what´s level is that?

feliciano_lopez
Apr 22nd, 2009, 08:34 PM
yeah thats true...but its clay...i´m hating clay...:lol:


:lol: same here, my favourite surface is taraflex i think..... because of my serve... :p but i dont have problem to play on clay too.... ;)

desariofan
Apr 24th, 2009, 10:01 AM
Yes GLTA is a very funny circuit. Basically anyone can play @ all levels. I live in Atlanta and usually just play the ones that are held here. It's fun and gets people together from all across the US to meet and socialize and it's not all about tennis. BTW JON !! I didn't know you roam in here as well!! :)

desariofan
Apr 24th, 2009, 10:05 AM
then i am somewhere between 4.5 and 5.0 maybe.... what´s level is that?

Based on what you said about your skill levels, you are probably around 3.5 to 4.0. I myself am 4.5.

4.5 players are Div I college players, or 5.0. 5.5, 6.0 will be like satellite, challenger players. and 7.0 will be people like Federer or Sharavpova.

gouci
Apr 29th, 2009, 09:46 PM
There's this 1 player I'm thinking about :tape: out of the Big West Conference that I wouldn't be surprised to see on the GLTA tour in the future. :lol:

Hint: Her last name has 5 letters with the 3rd one being an "a".

CarniceroLarry
Apr 30th, 2009, 12:58 AM
Based on what you said about your skill levels, you are probably around 3.5 to 4.0. I myself am 4.5.

4.5 players are Div I college players, or 5.0. 5.5, 6.0 will be like satellite, challenger players. and 7.0 will be people like Federer or Sharavpova.

I don't think a 4.5 player could even (properly) warm up a division I college player. A 4.5 player could be the locker room attendant. He/she can hand out clean towels and take dirty ones. BTW, I'm 4.0, barely. At least that's what the USTA says. I consider myself to be a very good 3.5

desariofan
May 4th, 2009, 08:31 AM
I don't think a 4.5 player could even (properly) warm up a division I college player. A 4.5 player could be the locker room attendant. He/she can hand out clean towels and take dirty ones. BTW, I'm 4.0, barely. At least that's what the USTA says. I consider myself to be a very good 3.5

Oops I apologize. Let me rephrase that. 4.5-5.0 are recreational competitive tennis players who could have had played DivIII or maybe some II colleges. 5.5 and up will be satellites/challengers.

Cheers!

Blackbeat
Mar 30th, 2010, 06:18 PM
bump...;)

someone playing in Duesseldorf this year?

oliverbecken
May 4th, 2011, 01:50 PM
I've just played in Dublin tournament (C Division) and won my first GLTA match! :lol:

Jekyll
May 4th, 2011, 01:52 PM
I just play in Dublin tournament (C Division) and won my first GLTA match! :lol:

Oli :bowdown:

I think I will play London this year :rocker:

oliverbecken
May 5th, 2011, 08:25 AM
I'm thinking in playing Bruxelles :)

LH2HBH
May 10th, 2011, 03:57 AM
I play in Vancouver from time to time.

Kathy Rinaldi
May 10th, 2011, 08:11 AM
I've just played in Dublin tournament (C Division) and won my first GLTA match! :lol:

Cool :) What was the standard like. Are the A players good?

oliverbecken
May 10th, 2011, 01:41 PM
Cool :) What was the standard like. Are the A players good?

D level is close to beginners level, but with some experience.
C level is people that knows where to put the ball, but they have poor shots, volleys and serves (generally speaking :p)
B level is people that has strong shots but time to time they are doing some "big" mistakes or people that are able to keep a long rallye, but they don't have really good shots.
And A/Open level for me they are really good players, able to play national tournaments in most of the countries. For example the best A/Open players in Ireland are playing at National level (maybe in countries with high tennis level like USA, Spain or France it will be hard to happen ;))


I don't know your level, but definitely in B, A and Open level you can see really good matches :)

chemguy1979
May 10th, 2011, 07:31 PM
I'm definitely playing Raleigh, NC this fall along with the Labor Day event in Montreal!

tenn_ace
May 11th, 2011, 11:50 PM
Oli :bowdown:

I think I will play London this year :rocker:


me too me too :bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:

Drake1980
May 12th, 2011, 03:01 PM
I play in Vancouver from time to time.

Do you live in Vancouver? Play tennisbc events?

young_gunner913
May 13th, 2011, 02:55 AM
Drake1980 told me about this tour, when there's more events in my area, I'll definitely start playing. Probably level C or even D. :lol: I'll join all events at D level and become the Smashnova of the GLTA. :hearts::drool:

PLP
May 21st, 2011, 11:33 PM
Anyone from the Denver area?
I am thinking of playing this year, I just have been so busy and my serve is so much weaker than the rest of my game...I really need to work it.

tenn_ace
May 30th, 2011, 11:02 PM
one of the players who entered London Masters is...... Dominika-Elena-René Cibulkova-Crespin

I'm absolutely serious :lol: wonna guess who his fav player is?????????

jjlove
May 31st, 2011, 08:10 AM
one of the players who entered London Masters is...... Dominika-Elena-René Cibulkova-Crespin

I'm absolutely serious :lol: wonna guess who his fav player is?????????

I know him, his favourite player is Elena Dementieva. When he makes a winner he shouts 'COME ON ELENA'

Territory
Jan 4th, 2012, 11:34 AM
I've entered in the 2012 Mardi Gras Championship in Sydney, which is part of the GLTA tour :)

I didn't even know such a tour existed until this week...

spiceboy
Jan 4th, 2012, 06:29 PM
Played Barcelona and Amsterdam

the jamierbelyea
Jan 4th, 2012, 06:52 PM
There's an event in Boston every year that I've just been turned onto about. I may play it this year depending on my schedule .

Territory
Jan 4th, 2012, 09:35 PM
Played Barcelona and Amsterdam

Cool! how was it? do you have a GLTA ranking? :lol:

(sorry - I'm not laughing at you, I just find the whole concept slightly amusing...)

And shouldn't this thread be in "amateur players" forum??

Territory
Jan 7th, 2012, 05:53 AM
Um, so I was Googling some of the players in the upcoming Mardi Gras Championship and found these:

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2YBzUn9Ghew

:lol: I think it's going to be a fun tournament! :)

Territory
Feb 15th, 2012, 08:37 PM
So the draw for the Sydney Mardi Gras Tennis Tournament is out (starts tonight). I'm in the A Grade, along with a minor celebrity: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_Enus

We'll play each other in R2 if we both win our first matches! :)

¤CharlDa¤
Feb 15th, 2012, 09:39 PM
Todd, any mentions of when you signed up in like the C draw and killed everyone cause you are obviously not a C player? :p

And I feel like playing the Queens Cup in Montreal every year, but 1) supppper expensive for a tournament (like 100$) and 2) the winner is the same each year in the Open category and I probably beat him 6-1 6-1 :( So I definitely won't pay 100$ for that. Which sucks cause I would be totally into it.

Philip
Feb 15th, 2012, 11:50 PM
Is there prize money? :p

Territory
Feb 19th, 2012, 06:55 AM
Well, I had an awesome time at the Sydney Mardi Gras tennis tournament. Am completely wrecked after so much tennis. Here's my results: http://glta.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=BB489C00-F937-4A3D-A9F2-4736571808B6&player=35

I was happy to reach to the SF of the A grade. I played really well on Saturday but was pretty tired and sore today. The highlight was my R2 win over Anton Enus (a newsreader on national TV in Australia).

Most of the guys were really nice and friendly but there were few moments of bitchiness on the court :lol:

Overall, the standard was good and it was really enjoyable. Would definitely play again. :)

Territory
Feb 26th, 2012, 08:59 AM
Hey didn't see this thread before. Last weekend, I played my first GLTA event - the Sydney Mardi Gras Tennis Tournament. I had a really great time. Good tennis, lots of nice people, lots of fun. And I played great:

I entered the A grade singles and doubles (with my partner who is about a B grade player).

R1 singles - an easy win 6-2 6-3. That meant that Saturday first up I was playing against a guy who is a minor celebrity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_Enus) - a late night newsreader on national TV in Australia! I had to steel myself to not get nervous but I played well and won 6-3 7-6. (I served for the match at 6-3 5-4 but lost serve and fortunately held it together). Then I had my QF and played about as well as I can play and won 6-2 6-2. By the end I was getting serious cramp. When I was serving for the match my big toe completely cramped and wouldn't undo itself. I had to take my shoe off and straighten my toe with my hand! Luckily the match ended soon after that.

Then I had R1 doubles and we won a close 3-setter. My highlight was serving about 6 aces, all out wide to the deuce court. Never done that before in my life! So that was the end of the Saturday and I was exhausted. It was a hot sunny Sydney day.

So Sunday morning, sore and tired I had my SF. I went up 5-3 in the 1st but ended up losing it in a tiebreak. Then I got it together and won the 2nd easily, 6-2. Then I played another crappy tiebreak and lost the match tiebreak 3-10. Disappointing but it was a great 2-hour marathon. Then we lost our doubles QF 4-6 4-6 (after being up 3-1 in both sets!). Our opponents were a bit rough and I got totally pummelled with a ball from short range when I was at the net. Wasn't happy. The bruise is still there, a week later!

But it was awesome. Then we sat around watching the finals and chatting to heaps of nice ppl. Would definitely go again! :)

jjlove
Feb 26th, 2012, 09:43 AM
I know the guy that won in B singles, we play in the same club in BCN. I play regularly (more or less a couple of tournaments per year) and it's lots of fun.

young_gunner913
Feb 26th, 2012, 04:25 PM
Mr.SerenaWilliams & I plan to play the Gay U.S Open together in doubles! We'll both be playing singles as well. :cool:

Territory
May 21st, 2012, 10:53 PM
The 2014 Asia Pacific OutGames were just awarded to Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia - near where I live!! http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2012/05/21/3507186.htm

There better be tennis! This is awesome news - we're a small city in northern Australia and hardly the centre of anything. Can't wait!

young_gunner913
May 21st, 2012, 10:59 PM
Mr.SerenaWilliams & I have our first tournament in 4 days!! :D

Territory
May 22nd, 2012, 12:26 AM
Good luck! Let us know how you go. Just don't pass me in the rankings :lol: I'm currently sitting at #255 in singles. hehehe...

VeeJJ
May 22nd, 2012, 05:28 AM
I totally need to join this and become a tennis playing Jetsetter.

Territory
Dec 5th, 2012, 04:50 AM
Just entered into the Australian Gay and Lesbian Open in Sydney in Feb 2013. :woohoo: It's now a Masters event on the GLTA tour - one of five.

I have an A-grade SF result to defend. Eep!

young_gunner913
Dec 5th, 2012, 06:09 PM
Good luck! :rocker2:

Mr.SerenaWilliams and I participated in the Gay & Lesbian US Open this year and we were both injured, played 20%, played like a top 500 junior and lost. :p

Territory
Dec 5th, 2012, 09:28 PM
Good luck! :rocker2:

Mr.SerenaWilliams and I participated in the Gay & Lesbian US Open this year and we were both injured, played 20%, played like a top 500 junior and lost. :p

thanks. and :hugs: for you gurl for your results this year. was that the tournament that was streamed or something and you were talking about it on TF? I think I remember checking out your progress :cool:

I would love to play a few international events when I finally finish my PhD sometimes next year and give myself a bigass holiday. A good friend in NY is top on the list so I'll have to visit when a US Open is on - either the pro one or the GLTA one. :)

charmedRic
Dec 6th, 2012, 11:18 AM
If all goes well with my training this year I plan on entering:

Toronto, ON - Canada. (05/18/2013-05/20/2013)
Columbus, OH - USA. (07/19/2013-07/21/2013)
New Hope, PA - USA. (08/24/2013-08/26/2013)

...my only qualm is that I'm rated 3.5 USTA, but I went 2-8 (singles) and 3-1 (doubles) this season.
So ... the skills are there, but my mental game is SH!T, I'm not sure which bracket(s) I should aim for to play.

Thoughts? :confused:

oliverbecken
Dec 6th, 2012, 04:21 PM
I won "C" London tournament this year! :cheer:

young_gunner913
Dec 6th, 2012, 04:31 PM
thanks. and :hugs: for you gurl for your results this year. was that the tournament that was streamed or something and you were talking about it on TF? I think I remember checking out your progress :cool:

I would love to play a few international events when I finally finish my PhD sometimes next year and give myself a bigass holiday. A good friend in NY is top on the list so I'll have to visit when a US Open is on - either the pro one or the GLTA one. :)

Yeah, the Gay & Lesbian US Open is played in Stanford at the Bank of the West Classic site and the school has there courts streamed online. :D It was tons of fun. Going back next year. :)

Drake1980
Dec 6th, 2012, 09:55 PM
If all goes well with my training this year I plan on entering:

Toronto, ON - Canada. (05/18/2013-05/20/2013)
Columbus, OH - USA. (07/19/2013-07/21/2013)
New Hope, PA - USA. (08/24/2013-08/26/2013)

...my only qualm is that I'm rated 3.5 USTA, but I went 2-8 (singles) and 3-1 (doubles) this season.
So ... the skills are there, but my mental game is SH!T, I'm not sure which bracket(s) I should aim for to play.

Thoughts? :confused:

:wavey: Don't forget about me.

charmedRic
Dec 6th, 2012, 11:15 PM
:wavey: Don't forget about me.

Which draws do you think I should enter?

Drake1980
Dec 7th, 2012, 04:27 AM
Which draws do you think I should enter?

I think you should work your ass off for the next few months and play B's. That way we can play dubs as I have to play A or Open singles.

charmedRic
Dec 7th, 2012, 11:24 AM
I think you should work your ass off for the next few months and play B's. That way we can play dubs as I have to play A or Open singles.

B's for singles, and A's for dubs? I can work towards that. I've actually won a couple 8.0 USTA Mixed Doubles and Doubles matches (each of the opponents were 4.0's) so that's a positive sign. :cheer: It's my singles mental game that needs help, :hysteric:.

Drake1980
Dec 7th, 2012, 04:08 PM
B's for singles, and A's for dubs? I can work towards that. I've actually won a couple 8.0 USTA Mixed Doubles and Doubles matches (each of the opponents were 4.0's) so that's a positive sign. :cheer: It's my singles mental game that needs help, :hysteric:.

I can play B doubles with you. :)

charmedRic
Dec 7th, 2012, 04:38 PM
I can play B doubles with you. :)

:rocker2:

Come-on-kim
Feb 8th, 2013, 03:53 PM
I am playing in Eindhoven an Paris (confirmed). Maybe I'll play Barcelona or Munich.

Territory
Feb 8th, 2013, 08:12 PM
My big tournament is next weekend! :scared:

I'm the 3rd seed in A grade singles and me and my partner are the 4th seeds in A grade doubles.

I've actually been training and eating a proper diet so I'm actually fit and healthy. Fingers crossed I do alright!


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Yoncé
Feb 9th, 2013, 01:38 AM
Good luck :cheer:

I want to play in it next year :oh::lol:

charmedRic
Feb 11th, 2013, 01:42 AM
So far so good and on-track for participating in the CNKY 2013 Memorial Tennis Classic. B Singles and B Doubles, :cheer:.

Drake1980
Feb 11th, 2013, 02:36 AM
Cool Ric,when is that one?

charmedRic
Feb 11th, 2013, 11:06 AM
Cool Ric,when is that one?

May I think

Territory
Feb 16th, 2013, 10:04 PM
Heyas. It's still the middle of the Australasian Gay n Lesbian Open and I've made it to the A grade semi-finals. :woohoo:

Waiting to go on court now. Wish me luck!


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charmedRic
Feb 17th, 2013, 01:34 AM
Heyas. It's still the middle of the Australasian Gay n Lesbian Open and I've made it to the A grade semi-finals. :woohoo:

Waiting to go on court now. Wish me luck!


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Excellent! Good Luck!!

Territory
Feb 17th, 2013, 03:28 AM
Well I lost my semi-final and am sore and tired, but it was a great tournament. Here's my results: http://glta.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=43C3D191-02CD-4025-A9A3-8C6DFC07C96E&player=108

:)

charmedRic
Mar 5th, 2013, 12:03 AM
So I'm definitely playing Cincy B Singles, and I just need a doubles partner to play in B Doubles. :cheer:

Territory
Mar 5th, 2013, 12:09 AM
So I'm definitely playing Cincy B Singles, and I just need a doubles partner to play in B Doubles. :cheer:

Buy me a plane ticket and I'm there! :cool:

WonderfulLee
Mar 5th, 2013, 02:21 AM
One of my friends win a title in australia, im not sure which category, i saw his picture with the trophy on his facebook.

Territory
Mar 5th, 2013, 02:49 AM
One of my friends win a title in australia, im not sure which category, i saw his picture with the trophy on his facebook.

Was it the recent tournament in Sydney? You might find his name here: http://glta.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/winners.aspx?id=43C3D191-02CD-4025-A9A3-8C6DFC07C96E

WonderfulLee
Mar 5th, 2013, 03:54 AM
Was it the recent tournament in Sydney? You might find his name here: http://glta.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/winners.aspx?id=43C3D191-02CD-4025-A9A3-8C6DFC07C96E

Ah, thx!
Yes his name is on the b men champions list.

Territory
Mar 5th, 2013, 04:09 AM
Ah, thx!
Yes his name is on the b men champions list.

Awesome! Congrats to your friend. It was a fantastic tournament and it was really great that international competitors like your friend travelled to Sydney for it. I played a guy from Thailand and a friend of mine played a visiting American player, so it really felt like an international event. I had the best time (helped of course by getting a good result! :) )

In The Zone
Mar 5th, 2013, 07:01 PM
Liberty Open in July. I'll be in the B. ;)

In The Zone
Apr 6th, 2013, 03:58 PM
Just signed up. Anyone else playing?

Drake1980
Apr 15th, 2013, 04:51 PM
Just signed up. Anyone else playing?

I might play here! :) We should play B doubles if I do. :D
I will play A Singles.

charmedRic
Apr 16th, 2013, 01:18 AM
Cincy tournament is no longer in the schedule. :sobbing:

CrossCourt~Rally
Apr 16th, 2013, 08:04 AM
Cincy tournament is no longer in the schedule. :sobbing:


:hug:

charmedRic
Apr 16th, 2013, 10:53 AM
Now I have to pick between Beechwood OH and St Mary's PA for that weekend for a USTA tournament. Hotels for the Beechwood one I think are cheaper, so there's that.

oliverbecken
May 7th, 2013, 09:56 PM
This weekend was the GLTA Dublin Open. We were really lucky on having sunny days, and I won my first match in B singles (1st time I was playing B, tho :p) and we were runner-ups in C doubles losing 7/6(7) 6/7(8) 13/11 in the champ tie-break after saving like 4/5 match points in the second set :lol:


Pic with the trophy
http://s21.postimg.org/9kb7zy793/GLTA_Dublin2013.jpg



Even that you finish really wrecked I love these tournaments. Thinking in playing London and Manchester this year as well :bounce:

crazillo
Jun 5th, 2013, 12:00 AM
I'd like to play a couple GLTA tournaments this year, espacially as we are three gay players in our regular team. :) But I feel the tournaments are incredibly pricy, aren't they? Checked two of them and each costs 75€ for one competition and 90€ if you play doubles. Quite a lot.

Territory
Jun 5th, 2013, 01:46 AM
i don't know how much that is in AUD, but the Sydney tournament was fairly pricey too. However I thought it was good value though, especially this year playing at Sydney Olympic Park where the Sydney WTA and ATP tournaments are played - I was happy to pay that much to play at a world class venue! :)

What are the venues like where you're thinking of going?

crazillo
Jun 5th, 2013, 11:51 AM
i don't know how much that is in AUD, but the Sydney tournament was fairly pricey too. However I thought it was good value though, especially this year playing at Sydney Olympic Park where the Sydney WTA and ATP tournaments are played - I was happy to pay that much to play at a world class venue! :)

What are the venues like where you're thinking of going?

75 EUR according to google would be 102 AUD. 90 EUR are 122 AUD.

I was thinking of going to Hamburg, maybe Amsterdam, too. I live in the south of Germany and have heard many good things about Hamburg. Would like to combine sightseeing and playing, and one of my teammates apparently also got relatives there, so accomodation wouldn't add any further costs. I don't think the tournament is played at the site of the ATP event though. However, I did notice that quite a lot of GLTA events actually take place at pro facilities. That's cool.
What do other people think about the entry fees? Sounds like you enjoyed your experience though. :hug:

Regular tournaments usually cost about 20-30 EUR (28 EUR would be 38 AUD) so I do think it's quite a big difference. ;)

Territory
Jun 5th, 2013, 12:32 PM
Oh ok. In Australia, regular tournaments would be about 40 EUR and GLTA is about 65 EUR so not so big a difference. But I would've spent at least 500AUD all together including travel and accommodation for this year's tournament and I still think it was worth it :) It was a great weekend - great tennis and I played with my partner and another good friend so it was a real treat :)

In The Zone
Jul 2nd, 2013, 02:49 AM
Draws are up. Anyone playing this weekend at US Open?

Drake1980
Jul 2nd, 2013, 06:24 AM
I'm playing the Seattle Tournament this weekend! :)
Good luck in NYC Paul.

In The Zone
Jul 8th, 2013, 05:09 PM
Won the A doubles with Casey and B singles. :D

Drake1980
Jul 8th, 2013, 11:49 PM
Congrats Paul!
I won the A Singles in Seattle!
http://glta.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/draw.aspx?id=37F398E7-D3D0-46F8-9DFD-E5026B716E77&draw=9

Territory
Jul 8th, 2013, 11:55 PM
^Wow two winners in our midst!!

Haven't you two learned anything from following the WTA? You're supposed to choke well before winning finals :lol:

Congratulations!

In The Zone
Jul 9th, 2013, 12:33 AM
Wow, congrats! :lol:

MMJSL
Jul 23rd, 2013, 05:13 AM
Played in Toronto this year for the first time. Great experience. Hopefully playing 1 more this year and hoping to play at least 3+ events a year starting 2014. :):):):)

Come-on-kim
Jul 26th, 2013, 10:25 AM
I will play the outgames in Antwerp this year.

It'll be my 6th tournament in a year. It is so much fun! I really love it. I love competition and when you can mix competition and discovering other cities, it makes it even nicer.

I also like seeing guys from other nationalities. When you see them back in another country, it makes it special. Like seeing an old friend.

Before I joined the tour (august 2012), I believed that it was crazy and so ghetto to have our own tour. After the first event in my own city I totally changed my mind. It is not ghetto as straight people come and play and it's like a real tour... You feel like a pro player hahaha

chaton
Sep 5th, 2013, 12:17 PM
75 EUR according to google would be 102 AUD. 90 EUR are 122 AUD.

I was thinking of going to Hamburg, maybe Amsterdam, too. I live in the south of Germany and have heard many good things about Hamburg. Would like to combine sightseeing and playing, and one of my teammates apparently also got relatives there, so accomodation wouldn't add any further costs. I don't think the tournament is played at the site of the ATP event though. However, I did notice that quite a lot of GLTA events actually take place at pro facilities. That's cool.
What do other people think about the entry fees? Sounds like you enjoyed your experience though. :hug:

Regular tournaments usually cost about 20-30 EUR (28 EUR would be 38 AUD) so I do think it's quite a big difference. ;)

The Hamburg tournament took place for the first time this year. The will Switch every year now between Hamburg and Berlin. So 2014 the tournament will be Held in Berlin.

It was a nice one taking place at the venue of the parents of Carina Witthoeft.

I think the entry fees are OK (but I have a full time Job so they don't really hurt me, for students I understand if it's a different Kind of Story). The tournaments can not use the venues for free and if it last three days it costs a lot. I see no way to do it with 20 or 30 EUR, it could not cover even the rental of the Courts.

chaton
Sep 5th, 2013, 12:34 PM
Just had my personal Highlight in Singles in Milan this year...:-) After having no Chance in the semifinal in B Singles in Hamburg (lost 6-1 6-1 against my friend Enrico - he played like from another world on this day) i was seeded #2 here. In the semifinal I had a tough match against the #3 seed - a real ball wall. Finally I could make it to the final with a 7-5 1-6 6-1. And there was the clash against the #1 seed. He Plays a style I don't like - forhand and backhand slice. And that in an unbelievable consistancy.

Finally I could win this match and the tournament 5-7 6-2 7-6 after 2:58... That was so exciting...

In The Zone
Sep 5th, 2013, 01:40 PM
Congratulations!

New_balls_please
Sep 5th, 2013, 02:53 PM
I still don't quite get how GLTA is so popular among the gay community. To me the whole idea screams exclusion and isolation. I would be okay with this if we were in 1920, but nowadays, when most people see us as no different to anyone else, GLTA's ideas seem obsolete and not appropriate to current circumstances in our society. Don't get me wrong. I'm sure it's a lot of fun to play, but I think it's very discriminatory.

The USTA has many leagues and tournaments which cater to all levels of abilities and experience. I've been playing tennis for 15 years now, and I even played Varstity Level as an undergrad. I get pissed when people say things like "oh, you could be the number one ranked gay tennis player in your country" and stuff like that. It doesn't matter if you're gay or heterosexual. Tennis is tennis and you should not be competing in a league just because you're gay.

It's just my opinion :D I respect your opinion, guys.

¤CharlDa¤
Sep 5th, 2013, 03:24 PM
I still don't quite get how GLTA is so popular among the gay community. To me the whole idea screams exclusion and isolation. I would be okay with this if we were in 1920, but nowadays, when most people see us as no different to anyone else, GLTA's ideas seem obsolete and not appropriate to current circumstances in our society. Don't get me wrong. I'm sure it's a lot of fun to play, but I think it's very discriminatory.

The USTA has many leagues and tournaments which cater to all levels of abilities and experience. I've been playing tennis for 15 years now, and I even played Varstity Level as an undergrad. I get pissed when people say things like "oh, you could be the number one ranked gay tennis player in your country" and stuff like that. It doesn't matter if you're gay or heterosexual. Tennis is tennis and you should not be competing in a league just because you're gay.

It's just my opinion :D I respect your opinion, guys.

I totally agree. I also played varsity in undergrad and I've been playing tournaments for almost 20 years now. A lot of people are trying to convince me to play the local GLTA event in Montréal, but I really don't see the use of it.

First, it is incredibly expensive compared to other regular events. I've played 5-6 pro events and they cost 40$ US. Why would I pay 150$ for a local tournament with a lower level of play, when I can play 4 provincial, national or international events for the same price?

I do understand such tournaments for 'recreational' players: you get to meet other players, meet people, party, have fun playing tennis, etc. It seems like it is more a sports version of Pride week: most of my friends have crazy sex stories about what happen in those tournaments. It is also a way to measure your level against other players.

I also understand it might be a safer zone for some gay players that feel threatened by the 'macho' sports world, which can be witnessed in other 'regular' tournaments. But for someone like me that grew up (and was out and proud) in said environment for all my life, I just don't see what sexuality has to do with tennis performance.

I think the real reason is that it is great to share a passion with people who are 'similar' to you. But in my case, I feel more similar to my other varsity colleagues or opponents than to a gay guy from another city/country.

chaton
Sep 5th, 2013, 07:02 PM
I still don't quite get how GLTA is so popular among the gay community. To me the whole idea screams exclusion and isolation. I would be okay with this if we were in 1920, but nowadays, when most people see us as no different to anyone else, GLTA's ideas seem obsolete and not appropriate to current circumstances in our society. Don't get me wrong. I'm sure it's a lot of fun to play, but I think it's very discriminatory.

The USTA has many leagues and tournaments which cater to all levels of abilities and experience. I've been playing tennis for 15 years now, and I even played Varstity Level as an undergrad. I get pissed when people say things like "oh, you could be the number one ranked gay tennis player in your country" and stuff like that. It doesn't matter if you're gay or heterosexual. Tennis is tennis and you should not be competing in a league just because you're gay.

It's just my opinion :D I respect your opinion, guys.

Why discrimination? Straight people are allowed to enter tournaments too. And as far as I know it already happened here in europe.

And the level depends of the division you enter. The Open level can be quite high.

Territory
Sep 5th, 2013, 11:49 PM
I still don't quite get how GLTA is so popular among the gay community. To me the whole idea screams exclusion and isolation. I would be okay with this if we were in 1920, but nowadays, when most people see us as no different to anyone else, GLTA's ideas seem obsolete and not appropriate to current circumstances in our society. Don't get me wrong. I'm sure it's a lot of fun to play, but I think it's very discriminatory.

The USTA has many leagues and tournaments which cater to all levels of abilities and experience. I've been playing tennis for 15 years now, and I even played Varstity Level as an undergrad. I get pissed when people say things like "oh, you could be the number one ranked gay tennis player in your country" and stuff like that. It doesn't matter if you're gay or heterosexual. Tennis is tennis and you should not be competing in a league just because you're gay.

It's just my opinion :D I respect your opinion, guys.

Each to their own. There's no need to criticise guys who choose to play GLTA events though. And I agree that there's no reason why you should be pressured to play GLTA events when you don't want to. We all have different goals with our tennis and different reasons for playing. Me, I've played both GLTA events and mainstream tournaments (called AMTs - Australian Money Tournaments in Australia). I like both.

AMTs are cheaper and more competitive, but things I don't like - average venues and most entrants are either juniors or players much better than me so I'm kinda stuck playing kids or losing to hotshots. I find with the GLTA events I get to play guys of a similar age and ability. Plus the last one I played was at Sydney Olympic Park (where they play the Sydney tournament every January) and it was f-cking amazing to play at that venue. Plus, I live in a small town with few out gay people in it, so I like occasionally being a part of something that's not heteronormative because pretty much every other aspect of my life is - and I don't want to be a drunken trashbag at dance parties or a Grindr desperado, so I think doing something as innocuous as playing a GLTA event is pretty healthy really.

And yes, there are straight players in the comp too so it's not discriminatory - the guy I beat in my R2 was straight and the year before my doubles comp was won by a friend of mine who paired with his man's straight brother (he ditched his man as his partner coz his tennis wasn't good enough! ha!). The GLTA is more social and more international than mainstream tournaments - I've played a guy from Switzerland and Thailand, a national TV newsreader, Australia's top GLTA player has played Davis Cup for Lebanon and I've definitely made more friends playing GLTA events than AMTs. But I do also like playing local AMTs. If I was younger and a better player I'd probably prefer AMTs but I don't think there's any need to question why some of us like to play GLTA events.

And it is true that tennis is a very heteronormative sport, so I do like that GLTA events allow many gay players to feel more comfortable on the court and about themselves. The last tourney I played in there was a transgender guy playing in the Open division who was actually a very strong player - without the GLTA I'm sure there are many players who wouldn't participate in competitive tennis.

Just because it's not for you, there's no need to be negative towards those of us who like it. Us gays don't have to be one way or another - we're a diverse bunch.

James Kidd
Sep 7th, 2013, 05:46 PM
I think there is some misinformation here. Why not check out the GLTA schedule and web page to get a better understanding of what the organisation is about. Far from being exclusory or separatist you will find people of all ages, sizes , abilities and race at these events. Non gay people are welcome. Discriminatory attitudes are not... There are over 60 tournaments world wide. They are social sporting events usually held over 3 days. Some events are quite expensive because they are held indoors or at incredible / iconic venues. Other events are less than $60 dollars and include breakfast, a goodie bag , local hosted accommodation and 3 days tennis. What a great way to see the world meet new people and enjoy tennis.

What some people forget is that in three quarters of the world, gay and lesbians continue to be severly discriminated against or even worse are at risk of violence. Recent GLTA tennis events in former communist countries do a great service to local gay communities. If everything is really so great in the world of tennis, where are the out gay male players on the professional circuit? Even if local tennis clubs globally opened their arms to LGBT participants, is it really so worrying that volunteers in 60 cities from Sydney to Palm Springs and Katowice to Bangkok stage these events.

In a world where a sense of genuine community and coming together face to face with like minded people is increasingly difficult, why would anybody criticise these events that reach across metaphorical and geographical borders. GLTA events may not be everybody 's idea of fun, but that's OK. But for some people who have experienced prejudice , bullying, exclusion these events have been life changing. When Young people are still committing suicide because they believe being gay is so shameful, please don't expect everybody to have the confidence to be Out at their local tennis events. And I am sure the old chestnut of sexuality has nothing to do with tennis will be mentioned. So, if I win a tournament I would like it to be OK for my partner ( boyfriend) to be able to give me a hug or hold my hand... I just can't do that at my local club. You certainly wouldn't be able to do it in Russia! Yep, people come from Russia to play these events.

Moreover, 10000 participants every year say these events are popular. I would recommend anybody to try an event and see what a welcome they get.

oliverbecken
Feb 5th, 2014, 11:06 AM
Will be playing my home tournament this year (Dublin - IE), but also thinking on playing abroad (Paris indoors in April and Rotterdam and s'Hertogenbosch in June/July)

Anyone played before any of these tournaments? Any good? :)

Territory
Feb 5th, 2014, 08:39 PM
^My sister lives in the Dublin. I hope to visit her within the next year or two and will try and make it coincide with the Dublin tournament :-)

Darwin, the small city near where I live is hosting the 3rd Asia Pacific Outgames this year and the tennis tournament is just about to get GLTA sanctioning. Should be good! Especially because Darwin is a small conservative city so it's gonna be pretty crazy having so many sporty homos running around there for a week! :cheer:

oliverbecken
Feb 6th, 2014, 10:26 AM
^My sister lives in the Dublin. I hope to visit her within the next year or two and will try and make it coincide with the Dublin tournament :-)

Darwin, the small city near where I live is hosting the 3rd Asia Pacific Outgames this year and the tennis tournament is just about to get GLTA sanctioning. Should be good! Especially because Darwin is a small conservative city so it's gonna be pretty crazy having so many sporty homos running around there for a week! :cheer:

You should Territory, Dublin tournament is always great fun! :-)

Many aussies came in the past years, and apart from europeans, we always receive lots of american and canadian players, so really international overall :bounce:

It's during the bank holiday at the beginning of May

young_gunner913
Feb 8th, 2014, 07:22 PM
For the third year in a row, Mr.SW and I shall be competing in the US Gay Open, this year it's moved from Stanford to Golden Gate Park in San Francisco. :)

Territory
Apr 6th, 2014, 11:01 AM
Only a few weeks to go til the Asia Pacific Outgames in Darwin. It's been accredited as a GLTA tournament now: http://glta.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/tournament.aspx?id=A7BDEFC6-2270-471E-8153-D63317ABDFEA

:cheer: It's gonna be so cool having this near where I live, and in a small city of only 100,000 or so.

Territory
Jun 9th, 2014, 12:54 PM
Oh, I won silver medals in the open singles and doubles (AsiaPacific Outgames in Darwin last month) and now my GLTA ranking is something crazy like 155!! :lol:

I'm in there somewhere:

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Territory
Jun 24th, 2014, 02:29 AM
Check out this great documentary on the GLTA!

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