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xan
Sep 6th, 2007, 10:01 AM
Anyone else still feeling as bad as I do? Usually when Maria loses a match, the bad feeling is gone in a couple of days. But this time it is much worse. Usually when Maria does lose, it is at the end of a tournament, so it can be quickly forgotten. But losing on Day Six of a fourteen day slam means that the damn thing seems never to end.

This was a huge opportunity for Maria. For once she genuinely had a "soft" slam draw and an almost open route to the Semi. Vinci in round 1 might have caused trouble. But my worst fear was that Peer or Vaidisova in the 4th Round might have sprung an upset if Maria had been playing poorly. Maria has never been threatened by Chakvetadze, so a Kuznetsova Semi was all that barred the way to the final - where she would get to play whoever had struggled through the bear-pit of the Top half. And when you are in a Slam Final, anything can happen. After all Maria's troubles, there seemed a good chance of her making a defence of her title and redeeming her 2007.

But instead, disaster. When I checked the score of the 3rd Round match, it was really only to reassure myself that Maria was continuing to play at a high level. The worst I feared was those "Maria struggles to win" headlines that signal she's not at her best. "Maria loses to Radwanska" was a bombshell. I still don't understand how Maria managed to lose in that way to such a scrub! I thought Maria must have been ill - a virus or something - but apparently not. Then, one-trick-pony Radwanska gets beaten easily by Peer, who is herself thrashed by Chakvetadze!

So in one stupidly lost match Maria loses her US Open Title, her Russian No 1 to Kuznetsova, her World No 2 (probably down to 4), and her aura of invincibility to lower ranked players. She also lost at least $1,000,000. (Her prize money would have doubled to 1 Million for making the final, 2 Million if she won.) PLUS there would also have been huge bonuses from her sponsors.

It's SO annoying seeing Maria finally getting a wide-open draw and then finding a way not to benefit from it. Instead her chief Russian competitor, Kuznetsova, (who always seems to get lucky,) gets to clean up, and overhaul her in the rankings! It's so frustrating! The match also indicates that Maria still has significant problems with her game.

There's been no news of Maria since Saturday. I presume she's lying low and feeling as bad as most of us do. She will hate to see the opportunity she missed, and less talented players making it easily through the draw. She has to work hard now, just to stay Top 4, and make the Championships.

Snapper
Sep 6th, 2007, 01:05 PM
Anyone else still feeling as bad as I do?

This was a huge opportunity for Maria. For once she genuinely had a "soft" slam draw and an almost open route to the Semi.


It's SO annoying seeing Maria finally getting a wide-open draw and then finding a way not to benefit from it.

She has to work hard now, just to stay Top 4, and make the Championships.

It would be difficult, to be certain and without knowing the situation, all we can speculate is that being injured she was given the 'softer' option. Her not going on the next round only cost her money and her position but she just has to bounce back with confidence, and not worry too much about time slipping away.

@Sweet Cleopatra
Sep 6th, 2007, 02:17 PM
past is past

jsage
Sep 6th, 2007, 04:20 PM
Anyone else still feeling as bad as I do? Usually when Maria loses a match, the bad feeling is gone in a couple of days. But this time it is much worse. Usually when Maria does lose, it is at the end of a tournament, so it can be quickly forgotten. But losing on Day Six of a fourteen day slam means that the damn thing seems never to end.

This was a huge opportunity for Maria. For once she genuinely had a "soft" slam draw and an almost open route to the Semi. Vinci in round 1 might have caused trouble. But my worst fear was that Peer or Vaidisova in the 4th Round might have sprung an upset if Maria had been playing poorly. Maria has never been threatened by Chakvetadze, so a Kuznetsova Semi was all that barred the way to the final - where she would get to play whoever had struggled through the bear-pit of the Top half. And when you are in a Slam Final, anything can happen. After all Maria's troubles, there seemed a good chance of her making a defence of her title and redeeming her 2007.

But instead, disaster. When I checked the score of the 3rd Round match, it was really only to reassure myself that Maria was continuing to play at a high level. The worst I feared was those "Maria struggles to win" headlines that signal she's not at her best. "Maria loses to Radwanska" was a bombshell. I still don't understand how Maria managed to lose in that way to such a scrub! I thought Maria must have been ill - a virus or something - but apparently not. Then, one-trick-pony Radwanska gets beaten easily by Peer, who is herself thrashed by Chakvetadze!

So in one stupidly lost match Maria loses her US Open Title, her Russian No 1 to Kuznetsova, her World No 2 (probably down to 4), and her aura of invincibility to lower ranked players. She also lost at least $1,000,000. (Her prize money would have doubled to 1 Million for making the final, 2 Million if she won.) PLUS there would also have been huge bonuses from her sponsors.

It's SO annoying seeing Maria finally getting a wide-open draw and then finding a way not to benefit from it. Instead her chief Russian competitor, Kuznetsova, (who always seems to get lucky,) gets to clean up, and overhaul her in the rankings! It's so frustrating! The match also indicates that Maria still has significant problems with her game.

There's been no news of Maria since Saturday. I presume she's lying low and feeling as bad as most of us do. She will hate to see the opportunity she missed, and less talented players making it easily through the draw. She has to work hard now, just to stay Top 4, and make the Championships.

Yes, I'm feeling as bad as you. I could not sleep the night she lost. The US Open is dead to me.

Aravanecaravan
Sep 6th, 2007, 08:04 PM
Maria didn't die. Her folks are still together. She is not bankrupt. And the sun will come up tomorrow.

Life goes on. She has a great attitude about it. She knows she has to work hard, and she will.

Natasc
Sep 6th, 2007, 08:21 PM
Maria didn't die. Her folks are still together. She is not bankrupt. And the sun will come up tomorrow.

Life goes on. She has a great attitude about it. She knows she has to work hard, and she will.

exactly... couldn't say better

sometimes you win, sometimes you lose
we must deal with this

honestly I was by far most worry about how Maria was than the lost itself
but she's shwoing great attitude
champions attitude actaully...
she's believing and we must believe as well

zayos_10
Sep 6th, 2007, 10:43 PM
exactly... couldn't say better

sometimes you win, sometimes you lose
we must deal with this

honestly I was by far most worry about how Maria was than the lost itself
but she's shwoing great attitude
champions attitude actaully...
she's believing and we must believe as well

Yeah, you are right, although I have to admit it does bug me to see other players in the semis and not Maria, specially 'cause I dont think they are that good!! but I guess we have to move on and hope for the best

Kitten63
Sep 7th, 2007, 01:17 AM
Not really,but maybe that's because I still have 3 favourites left in the tournament.

MaitaBaby
Sep 7th, 2007, 03:04 AM
She's over it. You should be too.

Emina.
Sep 7th, 2007, 08:19 AM
i'm feeling much better now, after reading her awesome blog :)

maria4andy
Sep 7th, 2007, 10:29 AM
i'm very sad

Doc
Sep 7th, 2007, 01:10 PM
Not really,but maybe that's because I still have 3 favourites left in the tournament.
Everyone in my sig went out early.... :o

Maria's loss is still very disappointing though

xan
Sep 7th, 2007, 04:21 PM
She's over it. You should be too.

It's not a question of being "over it." It's the fact of a BIG misssed opportunity for Maria. And the loss in one poor match of a lot of things Maria worked hard to attain (Slam Title, Ranking, Russian No 1. ) It was even more annoying having to watch Chakvetadze and Kuznetsova stroll into the Semis through an easy draw in Maria's place.

The fact that Maria lost that match shows that there are some important things about Maria's game to be addressed. Maria's response in her blog is excellent, and I hope that she is able to come back with renewed vigour (health) and enthusiasm to getting back her place at the very top of tennis.

However that doesn't disguise it was a bad week for Maria.

Shimizu Amon
Sep 7th, 2007, 05:19 PM
No Xan I never focus on the past. What's done is done, there's no need to dwell.
I can imagine you still being disappointed, but as I wrote before, it's a disappointing loss, but it's only one loss and we all know what's behind it. And we also know that Masha will be back better then ever!

And besides that it's all about today and let's make the most of that now.
And what happens in the future, well we'll see about that.

Well here's still a big comfort :hug:

johnoo
Sep 7th, 2007, 08:55 PM
It's not a question of being "over it." It's the fact of a BIG misssed opportunity for Maria. And the loss in one poor match of a lot of things Maria worked hard to attain (Slam Title, Ranking, Russian No 1. ) It was even more annoying having to watch Chakvetadze and Kuznetsova stroll into the Semis through an easy draw in Maria's place.

The fact that Maria lost that match shows that there are some important things about Maria's game to be addressed. Maria's response in her blog is excellent, and I hope that she is able to come back with renewed vigour (health) and enthusiasm to getting back her place at the very top of tennis.

However that doesn't disguise it was a bad week for Maria.

well I'm guessing your feeling even worse after watching that disgrace of a match Chakvetadze and Kuznetsova,it might not do any good to look back but how many chances in a carear do you get to get to a USO final with a weak field like that,my god she only had to force herself to win one set but she could not even motivate herself to do that,maria is getting herself a name for being a good loser and gracious in defeat,I would prefer if she was a bad loser like serena.

zayos_10
Sep 7th, 2007, 11:37 PM
well I'm guessing your feeling even worse after watching that disgrace of a match Chakvetadze and Kuznetsova,it might not do any good to look back but how many chances in a carear do you get to get to a USO final with a weak field like that,my god she only had to force herself to win one set but she could not even motivate herself to do that,maria is getting herself a name for being a good loser and gracious in defeat,I would prefer if she was a bad loser like serena.

Yeah watching that semis didnt help much, but I think it was worse to see that Henin got to the final again, and Maria didnt :sad: she really had a dood chance to be in the final again, but what can you do?? i guess there is always next year, right??

xan
Sep 8th, 2007, 01:12 PM
well I'm guessing your feeling even worse after watching that disgrace of a match Chakvetadze and Kuznetsova,it might not do any good to look back but how many chances in a carear do you get to get to a USO final with a weak field like that,my god she only had to force herself to win one set but she could not even motivate herself to do that,maria is getting herself a name for being a good loser and gracious in defeat,I would prefer if she was a bad loser like serena.

Maria certainly has to get angry at this sort of loss. A little too often this year, she has seemed to say "Ah well. I lost. it wasn't that important." Hopefully this horrible loss will change her outlook.

1000
Sep 8th, 2007, 01:25 PM
I think it will change her outlook and she will become a better player for the next year (this indoor season) and beyond in her career. We just have to have faith!!

Il Primo!
Sep 8th, 2007, 04:32 PM
Now, I don't feel so bad at all! She will bounce back. She's only 20, every top player had tough situations like this one before so not a big deal. It's gonna be interesting to see her reaction, before our eyes.

Jovana.
Sep 10th, 2007, 01:07 PM
Now, I don't feel so bad at all! She will bounce back. She's only 20, every top player had tough situations like this one before so not a big deal. It's gonna be interesting to see her reaction, before our eyes.

I agree,she is ony 20,allready has 2 grand slams,so many titles,one bad year is nothing,there are plenty more years of hapiness to come...:bounce: