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xan
Sep 2nd, 2007, 11:22 AM
As fans of Maria, I think we have to admit that there is a significant problem with Maria's game this year - and that is her sudden collapses in certain matches. After playing well in a tournament, she has suddenly started losing matches by worryingly big margins. The losses aren't even competitive.
We have seen this three times against Williams sisters this year. Once against Ivanovic and now against the lowly Radwanska - (where in the last set she managed to lose six straight games after being up a break!)

In the French Open Semi. Ivanovic was ready to collapse with nerves if she had been put under any significant pressure, but by allowing her to go two breaks up in each set, Maria never put her under that pressure. The same applies to the Williams matches, where Maria got herself in an impossible hole in both sets. Hence no pressure on Venus or Serena.

So what is the problem?

* Injury? The shoulder injury has weakened her ability to serve well all year - but it did not seem so much of a problem in the US Open.

* Confidence? Maria has seemed very confident coming into the US Open - although a lot of it may just be good presentation. She may have been nervous underneath, since she had a lot to lose. Her Slam Title and her Top Two ranking were both at stake here. her comments after the match indicate she didn't feel like a winner on the day. However poor confidence is often based on knowing that a weakness exists in your game.

* Poor tactics? I noticed that in her two crushing early wins, Maria was hitting right to the lines with her shots - even when it wasn't really necessary. It looks spectacular when it works. But did she leave herself too little margin for error? On a windy day, with her game slightly off, the shots that went in in the first two rounds, simply went out in the third round. Surely she should have a "safety" game for such circumstances, (especially against lower-ranked opponents) so that while still hitting a good shot, she hits one that leaves a margin for error?

* Serve? I keep saying this, but a top player cannot afford to lose more than one serve game per set. So long as you can hold serve, you can ride out a period of excellent play by your opponent, and then come back. Go two breaks down, and however good your fighting ability, most sets are lost causes. Maria has the build and the talent to get her serve game to a level where she can be rock solid, and be confident of holding serve nine times out of ten. But she hasn't done it yet.

* Distractions? Fahion. Celebrity appearances. Photoshoots. Are these distracting Maria from her tennis? They could play a part. Many stars sucked into the world of celebrity have lost their edge for a period. Look at Serena, Kournikova, Molik and others. All got dragged into the comfortable world of chat-shows, interviews and celeb appearances. All lost their edge while it happened.

I believe Maria is capable of being dominant number one and winner of multiple Slams, but identifying a cause of this problem of collapses is something that needs to be done urgently.

zayos_10
Sep 2nd, 2007, 01:25 PM
Well, I didnt read your whole post, but I would say her serve, of course i realize there are other things she needs to work on, but mainly, her serve. If she can get her serve back or even better, where she doesnt have to worry about it collapsing at wrong times (like yesterday) and where she knows she can trust it to get her out of trouble, then I think the other things in her game are going to come together as well. Her serve is the reason she doesnt feel confident on court, her serve is the reason she misses shots 'casue she doesnt get to hit the first ball to start the point, etc...

So, if she can really improve that and finally be confortable with her new service motion, then I think better things will come for her soon, maybe for the indoor season and the YEC.

Best wishes Maria

roger_maria4ever
Sep 2nd, 2007, 01:39 PM
Well, I didnt read your whole post, but I would say her serve, of course i realize there are other things she needs to work on, but mainly, her serve. If she can get her serve back or even better, where she doesnt have to worry about it collapsing at wrong times (like yesterday) and where she knows she can trust it to get her out of trouble, then I think the other things in her game are going to come together as well. Her serve is the reason she doesnt feel confident on court, her serve is the reason she misses shots 'casue she doesnt get to hit the first ball to start the point, etc...

So, if she can really improve that and finally be confortable with her new service motion, then I think better things will come for her soon, maybe for the indoor season and the YEC.

Best wishes Maria
I totally agree her serve will bring her coinfidence back

johnoo
Sep 2nd, 2007, 01:47 PM
identifying a cause of this problem of collapses is something that needs to be done urgently.
and something that can't be done by us on a tacky internet forum board :D seriously though the 3rd set reminded me of the FO 2006 v safina,battled her way back to win the 2nd set thought she had done enough relaxed and lost,the serve is a worry because players know it is a issue with the jitters at key points and masha knows that they know it is a issue,and so do the crowd,this makes her more nervous and it's gonna take a lot of work(mentally) to overcome it,she may need professional help but as dementieva has found out it's one thing to cure it in practice but another thing to solve it in tight match play,windy conditions make it even worse,my advice for what its worth(and its worth very little) I think she should ditch the long pre serving actions of putting her hair behind her ears and just quick serve the bloody thing,no time to worry about the jitters and no time for opposing players to pranch around.

Emina.
Sep 2nd, 2007, 02:05 PM
reminded me of Wimbledon 2006 vs Mauresmo and Birmingham 2007 vs Jankovic.

shad9480
Sep 2nd, 2007, 03:30 PM
and something that can't be done by us on a tacky internet forum board :D seriously though the 3rd set reminded me of the FO 2006 v safina,battled her way back to win the 2nd set thought she had done enough relaxed and lost,the serve is a worry because players know it is a issue with the jitters at key points and masha knows that they know it is a issue,and so do the crowd,this makes her more nervous and it's gonna take a lot of work(mentally) to overcome it,she may need professional help but as dementieva has found out it's one thing to cure it in practice but another thing to solve it in tight match play,windy conditions make it even worse,my advice for what its worth(and its worth very little) I think she should ditch the long pre serving actions of putting her hair behind her ears and just quick serve the bloody thing,no time to worry about the jitters and no time for opposing players to pranch around.

Totally agree with you especially the bold one :)

quasar-x
Sep 2nd, 2007, 08:05 PM
very nice wrap there xan..
i read all your post and benefited it all..thanks much for the time and effort..
well, if we look back on the consequent victories last year; the uso, zurich, linz (and we can add her yec performance to that as well, even though she'd lost at the semis)
prior to those (starting from after wimb06) we see the efficient period of hard work and proper practice where she was 100% healthy..
whereas this year she never had that kind of a clear period unfortunately..
the serves are the very important part of her game and they suffered this year due to the stubborn shoulder injury..if thats fixed and the new motion fully adopted then her game will be fixed and thats to come with patience, completele healing and efficient practice.
(funny how some people in here now say the very same things that i said yesterday on another thread that then they had actually trashed..oh, humans, some always lost! maybe they should bother and respect to read the whole lot of the post that fans care to share..and with their "eyes" ofcourse, if possible!..)

@Sweet Cleopatra
Sep 2nd, 2007, 11:47 PM
don't know a reason makes you loose a match when you're 2-0 by making weird faults exept thing in her brain , how come she easilly let her self out of the third round of a grand slam , she probably finds her self pushed to tennis , she must love tennis again , not be feared of tennis , Maria has incredible talent that was noticed early by someone like Navratilova , she was a girl winning , and suddenly buisness and media come to use her for themselves , the fact that she's beautifull blonde Russian in the American media is more important than she's a tennis player , and at the last we'll not say she turned into bad player , she'll remain in top ten this year whatever happened , but we're concerned with her future , her serve , what's with he serve ? she was serving very well last year , the faults , the fact that she's having a problem with top players which due to the serve I think .
but I think that God after all'll help her in the coming days .
and also she had a very bad luck at Wimbledon when Venus was ranked 26 .
I wish her all luck in the fall .

quasar-x
Sep 3rd, 2007, 12:22 AM
don't know a reason makes you loose a match when you're 2-0 by making weird faults exept thing in her brain , how come she easilly let her self out of the third round of a grand slam , she probably finds her self pushed to tennis , she must love tennis again , not be feared of tennis , Maria has incredible talent that was noticed early by someone like Navratilova , she was a girl winning , and suddenly buisness and media come to use her for themselves , the fact that she's beautifull blonde Russian in the American media is more important than she's a tennis player , and at the last we'll not say she turned into bad player , she'll remain in top ten this year whatever happened , but we're concerned with her future , her serve , what's with he serve ? she was serving very well last year , the faults , the fact that she's having a problem with top players which due to the serve I think .
but I think that God after all'll help her in the coming days .
and also she had a very bad luck at Wimbledon when Venus was ranked 26 .
I wish her all luck in the fall .

yes i agree with you that everything is going to be just fine and even better soon sweet cleopatra..like you said as well many fans agree that the major issue is her serves not worked well this year..she has been battling with injuries and when thats the case you can't have the proper efficient practice and its not always easy to catch that rhythm of consistency and confidence which is crucial in top tennis..but for the moment you just hold on to your beautiful fireworks because soon we will be celebrating many more of marias successes.:hug:

Natasc
Sep 3rd, 2007, 12:29 AM
I believe that you all forgot one important thing...
Where is Maria fighter spirit??

I would add maybe a personal problem....
Doesn't matter if the serve is not there, if the confidecne is not there, but the Maria I know would still fight and not get her ass kicked by the Williams and "venus-pupet" Ivanovic on GS

so maybe that whole talk about her mother and dad getting divorced
or maybe she took the loss of her coach (Joyce) mum too hard
or maybe something personal like relationships problems
:shrug:

quasar-x
Sep 3rd, 2007, 02:11 AM
I believe that you all forgot one important thing...
Where is Maria fighter spirit??

I would add maybe a personal problem....
Doesn't matter if the serve is not there, if the confidecne is not there, but the Maria I know would still fight and not get her ass kicked by the Williams and "venus-pupet" Ivanovic on GS

so maybe that whole talk about her mother and dad getting divorcedor maybe she took the loss of her coach (Joyce) mum too hard
or maybe something personal like relationships problems
:shrug:

you just may have a point there about it all just maybe related to something personal actually..you never know..although i'd still put my money on the fact that its all due to her bad year of injuries resulting in the lack of that mindset and confidence to top her level..

but i do have to think that she (why in gods sake) has had to need that extra bit of special motivation to bring out that "fighter spirit" at times..in the FO against patty she addressed the victory and her fight out there to joyces recently passed away mother and in acura to jen (whoever she was) and when a patty fan out there in the acura final shouting to patty "you got her this time!.."it would fire up maria to bagel her out (maybe maria was only being sarcastic on her speech there about it, i don know..) so in order for that "spirit" to come out she somehow needed her special reasons..and after those great matches against patty and anna.c at the FO she was totally off-the-mode against ana, like she didn't have a reason left to battle that day..and you'd think, "what a waste of a slam semi" and how come the event being a slam and the match being a semi wasn't enough of a motivation already ("getting out of the other side of the bed" that morning)

now, i can relate the collapse against vera back at Iwells to the shoulder (it was pretty obvious) and to that i can add the fall against serena at SEopen as well, but i do have 2nd thoughts for those
"well, i wasn't there today" kinda after comments where she would soo easily give up those matches..i don't think it could be related to any family conflict nor a bf problem..and i hope i'm wrong but she just could be growing up to be one intellectual on us afterall with all that philosophy of "hey, afterall its a ball and a racket and a game and there are more important things in life etc etc.." because thats the one thing that an athlete of tough competetion certainly does not need..thats a no no!..

i ve always figured yuri as her teacher on the tough, ruthless side of life and her mom on the very opposite the easy going intellectual side..maybe she's diverging to her mom's side lately..and she does somehow sound a bit formal in times when she typically says "i play tennis cos i love the competetion etc."..sometimes i doubt she anymore does love the "competetion" actually..and when you have to think of justine, the hungry ana and jelena (with one million matches played a year) all made up of tennis machines in her domain of competetion..yes it is a fact that maria is learning and experincing a lot about life (and death) in her vicinity lately and just maybe she's maturing a bit too early, too fast for a top young athlete..maybe she should also cut down with all those books she reads as well..haha!

i hope you're wrong there natasc, but a good point here..
(sorry everyone for the long post but a deep issue here..)

Natasc
Sep 3rd, 2007, 02:23 AM
There's something funny that you didn't mention

I always imagine Maria like some sort of Nadal
she's not as talented as Roger, but she does fight a lot to win her matches like Nadal

So... I believe that in order to not be so talented and yet so succesfull on this sport you must be really hungry for competition (like Nadal)
I do believe that rafa does work harder than Maria... but the idea of the game is the same.. "they have to batle they way to win the match"

So.... people who work that hard for a thing, when they have to work that hard once that they are not so talented it's makes they want more not think about what they can do...

I believe that is easy for Roger (that doesn't fight 20% of what Nadal or Maria fight) to think: "Hum... with all this slams and the fatc that I'm a millionaire I may do some other thing now"

so I don't think there's a problem of Maria getting "intellectual"

actually I believe that this whole talk of "wasn't my day".. "I wasn't feeling my game" is just an out excuse... deeply inside she knows the problem and is not a "wasn't on my day" one

quasar-x
Sep 3rd, 2007, 03:43 AM
i certainly do agree with you that there is something behind those
"it just wasn't my day" comments and that she is only being diplomatical there..
but are you meaning to say that she doesn't want to work harder anymore to
close the gap with other players that are more naturally talented than her?
if i got you correctly, the will and the desire to achieve her best is yes there
but not steady and stable enough like it used to be..meaning that one day its
there and the next day it just may be missing..and the reason for this ups and
downs in her motivation is the question actually..
is it because of the low morale due to injuries and upsets that she is fed up with
this year or is it that she just doesn't feel the passion anymore..
but regardless i m sure she'll take it on the positive side and whatever made it hard
for her this year is actually going to help her to be even a tougher one..
if she's not motivated to work that hard anymore i beleive its only temporary..

Maria Croft
Sep 3rd, 2007, 06:44 AM
Her Grand Slam losses have been really what has made this year so bad, all 4 of them she lost without much of a fight, when in previous years you had to be at your best to get past Sharapova in a slam.

Her serve has brought the rest of her game down, and it's beginning to look like my biggest possible fear could be becoming reality as in Maria's entire game falling apart, losing to Radswanska in a slam is as bad as it gets for someone like Maria, doesn't matter how talented that girl is gonna be.

My only hope is that the worst is behind us and that her serve is really going to get better, the 2004 3R loss in the US open was her last early loss in a tournament since now, and started the beginning of her being probably the most consistent player on the tour.

However, I think this season should end, I see no reason to continue, her serve still needs a lot of work, and I think mentally she could really use a break to get her game back together. She played great in San Diego and I really thought there was a small chance the rest of the year could be saved, but I doubt that now.

VeraNuVirgosFan
Sep 3rd, 2007, 08:48 AM
So what is the problem?

- Injury? The shoulder injury has weakened her ability to serve well all year - but it did not seem so much of a problem in the US Open.
Unfortunately, I think INJURY is Masha’s sole BIG problem. (Masha didn’t serve well during her second round match against Dellacqua.)

Obviously Masha wouldn’t have played that bad against Serena at the 2007 Australian Open final, and again against Ivanovic at the 2007 French Open SF if she didn’t have the injury.

I believe Maria is capable of being dominant number one and winner of multiple Slams, but identifying a cause of this problem of collapses is something that needs to be done urgently.
Doubtless, Masha is a very capable player. But if her shoulder injury problem couldn’t be fixed for good, then "Maria’s just another good player and not a great player without her fine serve" – this was written by the cat.

Anyway, let’s continue to be optimistic and hope that Masha’s injury can be cured completely ASAP.

xan
Sep 3rd, 2007, 10:19 AM
People have recovered from worse injuries than Maria's and come back to dominate. So hopefully injury will not harm her permanently.

The serve does seem to be a major problem - as with most players, if your serve is working well, the rest of your game clicks into place. Once again it is a problem that should be able to be cured with reasonable ease. Hopefully she is half way there already. Justine remodelled her serve more than once - and now it is one of the most effective in the game - even at five foot six!

The other problem is Maria's mental approach. I really do not know about this. Confidence can be a vicious circle. You lose confidence. you miss your shots, you lose more confidence, etc. Or the reverse. Perhaps also Maria needs to cut down on the celebrity appearances and focus on tennis completely once more. The game is very tough at the moment. I think Yuri was a bit disgusted with her against radwanska to walk out like that. And maybe the shock of the loss (which will cost her AT LEAST $1,000,000) will bring back her hunger to win.

I DON'T think she should quit the season, unless her doctors advise it. What she needs is match toughness and more wins, not practice sessions in LA. Also, she may preserve her Top 4 ranking if she is lucky, and can maintain that this Autumn. Sink below Top 4 - and your draws get much worse much earlier.

Doc
Sep 3rd, 2007, 01:56 PM
Some bad losses this year. But Maria should come back stronger

quasar-x
Sep 3rd, 2007, 02:18 PM
quiting the season should definitely be out of the Q here..
she's still got many pts to defend and she's gotta make it to madrid..
besides her injury (yes still lingering i beleive, but) hasn't gotten any worse
and i don't think this emotional breakdown is to take much long nor haunt her..
she can move on and she'll be just fine..

besides her remaining schedule is announced..
stutgard>zurich>linz>yec(hopefully)

i beleive this last uso shock was the final devils-knock on her door
because in her post-match interview she looked very pissed (whereas in others she'd
kinda look a bit surrendered) so i expect a "enough is enough" reaction from maria now..she's got a whole month until stutgard now to get into a proper rhytm of practice and hard work and i m very optimistic of the near future..

roger_maria4ever
Sep 3rd, 2007, 05:41 PM
now I'm getting optimistic too, I agree with guasar that in her interview she looked very pissed( for example what she said about radwanska "Let's see if she does that again the next time i'll play her". I think she will be very determined to bring her game back and kick everyone's but haha.

quasar-x
Sep 3rd, 2007, 05:59 PM
now I'm getting optimistic too, I agree with guasar that in her interview she looked very pissed( for example what she said about radwanska "Let's see if she does that again the next time i'll play her". I think she will be very determined to bring her game back and kick everyone's but haha.

yep, that's what i'd esp noticed besides the general attitude..
donno if she's gonna take it out on the yec or AO08 or both..
she's had it!:fiery:..

Doc
Sep 4th, 2007, 12:32 PM
quiting the season should definitely be out of the Q here..
she's still got many pts to defend and she's gotta make it to madrid..
besides her injury (yes still lingering i beleive, but) hasn't gotten any worse
and i don't think this emotional breakdown is to take much long nor haunt her..
she can move on and she'll be just fine..

besides her remaining schedule is announced..
stutgard>zurich>linz>yec(hopefully)

i beleive this last uso shock was the final devils-knock on her door
because in her post-match interview she looked very pissed (whereas in others she'd
kinda look a bit surrendered) so i expect a "enough is enough" reaction from maria now..she's got a whole month until stutgard now to get into a proper rhytm of practice and hard work and i m very optimistic of the near future..

That's right. And pulling out of tennis is the wrong reaction to a defeat. Imagine if her last tennis memory for four months was that match! :eek: And anyway she developed that shoulder injury off-season last year.

It looks like she'll be down to World No 4 after the US Open. She needs to fight to keep, and maybe build on that ranking before November

franny
Sep 4th, 2007, 06:59 PM
1. Serve. The injury is gone, and so is the confidence. I have never seen a player just lose their serve the way Maria has this year. I was watching her matches at last year's YEC and U.S. Open and that serve was amazing. She's always had a great serve. Top players dont just lose their serve like that. I dont remember Davenport or Serena ever going through a bad serving patch. The injury may have caused her to lose confidence, but you still should not forget how to serve. She needs to work on this, and just keep practicing the serve and get the rhythm back. If the injury is causing problems, dont try to serve through it. Just don't serve and wait until the problem is 100% gone.

2. Speed. She's too damn slow. It worked for a while, but now, players are getting better and stronger and can move directions of the ball. I notice that Maria gets into trouble when her opponent changes the direction of the ball on her. A shot that takes Serena a couple of steps to get to Maria like has to scramble for it and hits a weak reply back. It's not good enough Maria. Nowadays, you need to be faster. Perhaps hiring Pat Etcheberry (sp?) to work on her fitness and speed is the way to go. If she aint willing to work hard, then she doesnt deserve to win.

quasar-x
Sep 4th, 2007, 09:42 PM
..Top players dont just lose their serve like that. I dont remember Davenport or Serena ever going through a bad serving patch. The injury may have caused her to lose confidence, but you still should not forget how to serve.

yes, but the injury is of the right shoulder which is directly related to the serve..there's a very useful thread here (by, i heart masha) with all the insight info..
its true that maria is yet not there at her likely serve speed. but afterall i beleive, they're all related to one another, culprit being the injury..hard work will make all the recovery, plus fully adopting to the new motion..

Aravanecaravan
Sep 4th, 2007, 10:19 PM
I was disappointed with Maria's performance here, but I will confess that I didn't think she'd make it past a match-up with Vaidisova. Well, she didn't make it that far.

I think it is a multitude of issues, which started with a serious injury to her shoulder. That impacted her scheduling and training, and coupled with her total re-adjustment of her serve motion right before the US Open, left her unprepared to defend. I have to take Maria at her word when she says the shoulder was OK at the Open. I just think that the lack of consistent tough matches this year has gotten to her. Maybe she was pressing too much.

I also think that what happened to Maria Saturday was not unlike what happened to her at the Miami finals in '05, and other outdoor events through the years--wind. Maria has a very high ball toss, and that had to be affected (she looks ininitely better in this regard in night matches at the Open). I believe that Maria is the best "perfect conditions" player in the world. Unfortunately, only a quarter of the season is played indoors, and she needs to find some consistency over a range of different conditions if she is going to be a consistent threat in majors.

Moreover, she had a ton of UEs again--something that's become routine with her when it's windy. I don't want to suggest that Radwanska didn't earn that win, but Maria is a better player and should have won that in straight sets.

She needs to explore the possibility of getting a different opinion on her serve and forehand, but even more than that, I think she needs somebody to tell her that she isn't going to win matches in windy conditions playing her normal game. It is high risk, and when it fails, it goes south in a hurry. She needs to recognize, early in a match like that, that she needs to tighten up her swing, punch the ball more, rather than smash away at it, keep it more toward the center of the court, move her opponent around more. That's the biggest disappointment I had with Saturday--not that she lost, but that she lost without really trying hard to win.

roger_maria4ever
Sep 4th, 2007, 11:46 PM
I was disappointed with Maria's performance here, but I will confess that I didn't think she'd make it past a match-up with Vaidisova. Well, she didn't make it that far.

I think it is a multitude of issues, which started with a serious injury to her shoulder. That impacted her scheduling and training, and coupled with her total re-adjustment of her serve motion right before the US Open, left her unprepared to defend. I have to take Maria at her word when she says the shoulder was OK at the Open. I just think that the lack of consistent tough matches this year has gotten to her. Maybe she was pressing too much.

I also think that what happened to Maria Saturday was not unlike what happened to her at the Miami finals in '05, and other outdoor events through the years--wind. Maria has a very high ball toss, and that had to be affected (she looks ininitely better in this regard in night matches at the Open). I believe that Maria is the best "perfect conditions" player in the world. Unfortunately, only a quarter of the season is played indoors, and she needs to find some consistency over a range of different conditions if she is going to be a consistent threat in majors.

Moreover, she had a ton of UEs again--something that's become routine with her when it's windy. I don't want to suggest that Radwanska didn't earn that win, but Maria is a better player and should have won that in straight sets.

She needs to explore the possibility of getting a different opinion on her serve and forehand, but even more than that, I think she needs somebody to tell her that she isn't going to win matches in windy conditions playing her normal game. It is high risk, and when it fails, it goes south in a hurry. She needs to recognize, early in a match like that, that she needs to tighten up her swing, punch the ball more, rather than smash away at it, keep it more toward the center of the court, move her opponent around more. That's the biggest disappointment I had with Saturday--not that she lost, but that she lost without really trying hard to win.
soo true..her shots a really flat in a windy day, those flat shots without spin just go away

quasar-x
Sep 5th, 2007, 12:14 AM
..I think it is a multitude of issues, which started with a serious injury to her shoulder. That impacted her scheduling and training, and coupled with her total re-adjustment of her serve motion right before the US Open, left her unprepared to defend. I have to take Maria at her word when she says the shoulder was OK at the Open. I just think that the lack of consistent tough matches this year has gotten to her. Maybe she was pressing too much.

true..when that's case, then you're going to lose matches and not necessarily in those matches lost it's going to be the shoulder (the pain, the fear of getting it worse etc.) in particular stopping you..its not uni-dimentional..rather the bigger-picture (that's built-up on the shoulder)
the wind-game improvement yes is a must (esp with some highest toss on tour) on top of those problems mentioned it did seem to be maybe the greatest cause of the loss against radwanska.

Shimizu Amon
Sep 5th, 2007, 08:25 AM
It's my opinion that Masha's problems started with her serve.
And because of that she endured some awful defeats this year, which cost her confidence to drop.
These two combined made sure this year was quite an awful year for Masha.
Still I'm confident that she can recover from this. But I think she needs to focus on the problem, and her problem to me is that she just isn't sure about her own play any more. And that has everything to do with her serve and confident.
If she can raise the one, the other will come instantly.
My opinion is that she should train and let this year pass. She has nothing more to lose. And as of next year everything to gain.

jsage
Sep 5th, 2007, 08:51 AM
I must be the only one to say this, but I think her performance in the first and second rounds was one of the best ever, like the US Open last year or even better. Only the serve was not so good. Saturday with Radwanska was one of those days that all goes wrong and it happens to everyone.
I agree that a top ten player can not loose the service so many times like she does. If she had a service like Davenport or Venus, it was impossible to loose to Radwanska or any other player except maybe Henin. Well, last year with a great serve, she won to Henin…

xan
Sep 5th, 2007, 02:45 PM
Maria was exceptionally good in the first rounds - almost too good. The problems came when she got in a tight match.

She didn't alter her shots to compensate for the weather. And her serve is still not nearly where it was last year. I think serve affected confidence. But this needs to ne a wake up call