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Marshmallow
Sep 1st, 2007, 07:46 PM
Annabel Croft – Former tennis player and tennis commentator – basically said after the match that Maria’s serve problems were caused by her thrashings to Serena. [I’m not even lying, I’m sure someone else watching the sky sports coverage can confirm]. Anyway, apparently, Maria’s beatdowns in the AO and in Miami scarred Maria SO badly, that while she puts on an aggressive front, tries to intimidate opponenents (keep in mind these are HER words) and stomps around the place – inside, her confidence is SHATTERED. It’s all a shell! Can be compared to a shellfish if you think about it.

To what extent do you agree with Annabel?

Does it explain why she behaves so monstrously against even the weakest opponents?

Discuss :D

And this time, no shooting at the messenger. :p

cnelson575
Sep 1st, 2007, 07:50 PM
Well she was having serviing problems in the AO before the final, she was just able
to get away with it, when she played Serena , Serena was on and was able to take
advantage of her poor serve. I do believe her confidence is shattered but its because
her serve is poor now and she has not only had several lobsided losses she is starting
to lose to opponents outside of the top 10 which was rare before.

roger_maria4ever
Sep 1st, 2007, 07:52 PM
whatever..

mboyle
Sep 1st, 2007, 07:53 PM
I didn't buy it at the time, but Maria is not the same player as before. I mean, Radwanska is a horrible loss...just embarrassing. All Maria had to do was get the ball in play and not double fault.

CoryAnnAvants#1
Sep 1st, 2007, 07:53 PM
I can understand that argument, but I don't agree with it. She won a Tier I this summer and beat the crap out of her first two opponents here. She might be intimidated by Serena, but certainly wasn't intimidated when she stepped on court to play Radwanska.

Pengwin
Sep 1st, 2007, 07:57 PM
Coming from the most incompetant commentator in the history of the universe this means very little...

roger_maria4ever
Sep 1st, 2007, 08:01 PM
well we'll have to wait for the interview to come up..reporters will defenetily be asking about the serve

Bijoux0021
Sep 1st, 2007, 08:10 PM
I can understand that argument, but I don't agree with it. She won a Tier I this summer and beat the crap out of her first two opponents here. She might be intimidated by Serena, but certainly wasn't intimidated when she stepped on court to play Radwanska.
She just lost confidence in her serve. Now that all her opponents know to attack her serve, once she missed her first serve, she got scared and started to panic, and then comes the double faults.

CaptnMatt
Sep 1st, 2007, 08:17 PM
could be true.....that's how it all started with Hingis....maybe Sharapova will take the same path.....Serena has that way of doing those things....she's such a great player.

Slutiana
Sep 1st, 2007, 08:21 PM
I didn't buy it at the time, but Maria is not the same player as before. I mean, Radwanska is a horrible loss...just embarrassing. All Maria had to do was get the ball in play and not double fault.

oh, you're back:rolleyes:

Coming from the most incompetant commentator in the history of the universe this means very little...

:worship:

Serenidad.
Sep 1st, 2007, 08:35 PM
I agree with Annabel Croft and have already made a thread before this one.

Chriskip
Sep 1st, 2007, 08:39 PM
I didn't buy it at the time, but Maria is not the same player as before. I mean, Radwanska is a horrible loss...just embarrassing. All Maria had to do was get the ball in play and not double fault.


Well, it sure is nice to see you have finally acknowledged what has been so obvious for so long. I remember being the bearer of a similar opinion voiced by a commentator earlier and getting no ends of crap from some fans like you who didnt want to see the obvious. Well if you are anything to go by, lets hope her camp have opened their eyes too. Otherwise Yuri will be having many (more) sleepless nights. I wont be surprised if they give Joyce the boot too. Maria's problem is mental and she has not gotten over her yips. Once she senses danger the serve errors come in droves. You dont lose a good serve just like that. I dont buy their shoulder injury problems. Even if that was the case she hardly got a workout before today so they cant claim aggravation of it like they are known to do after each loss.

Melly Flew Us
Sep 1st, 2007, 08:40 PM
Coming from the most incompetant commentator in the history of the universe this means very little...
actually croft's commentating skills have improved dramatically this week. very insighful and concise and well-reasoned. hopefully this is not a flash in the pan.

anyway, to deny that there is any emotional element to the problems sharapova is having this year is, i think, unjustified.

sammy01
Sep 1st, 2007, 08:40 PM
i think she dosen't know what to do with a 2nd serve anymore! shes never had a kick serve so she cant use this as most of the women do now to fall back on. i think if i was in her coaching corner thats what i would be trying to get her to do on 2nd serves kick it up high (i mean shes 6ft 2 she could have a great kick safe unattackable 2nd serve!)

starin
Sep 1st, 2007, 09:34 PM
i think she dosen't know what to do with a 2nd serve anymore! shes never had a kick serve so she cant use this as most of the women do now to fall back on. i think if i was in her coaching corner thats what i would be trying to get her to do on 2nd serves kick it up high (i mean shes 6ft 2 she could have a great kick safe unattackable 2nd serve!)

She should hire Krajicek to teach her or Sampras. Or Serena! :devil:

Foxy
Sep 1st, 2007, 09:44 PM
Maria's serving problem has NOTHING to do with Serena.

Maria's shoulder is just fine. It's been fine for the past few days, Maria has said it was fine, Tracey and all the commentators has said it was fine when she was winning.

Maria's problem is that she's not too smart. Maria doesn't have a plan B or C. She just determined to bang her way out of a situation when it's clearly not working.

Maria's court antic and screaming is a form of intimidation to her opponents, and the reason I say this is because Maria did NO screaming in the third set when she was losing. So that lets us know she can be quite if she wants to. She thinks that yelling is making her opponents afraid of her and for the most part it does.

Maria just got out played today, and there is no need in anyone blaming her should for her problems.

It can't be fine when she's winning then injured when she starts losing. The other player won fair and square and she out-foxed the ball basher.

DOUBLEFIST
Sep 1st, 2007, 09:52 PM
While I do agree Maria lacks a B or C plan, I have a feeling Maria's shoulder has gotten to her head. In other words, I believe the shoulder problems are chronic and no matter how she changes her service motion, she is still- deep down- tentative about it. I've said this before, but I won't be surprised if we don't hear about a MINOR shoulder "procedure" performed on Maria's shoulder over the off season.

harloo
Sep 1st, 2007, 10:06 PM
Anabel Croft is late with her theory. I noticed how losing both AO matches to Serena in 2005, and 2007 broke her confidence. When Maria first came on the scene her first and second serves were both weapons that never broke down during competition. Now when anyone challenges her the double faults start to mount up and Maria starts feeling immense pressure.

I really don't feel it's bad Maria is experiencing this right now in her career. As her game matures she'll break this cycle and come out a better champion.

Foxy
Sep 1st, 2007, 10:14 PM
Doublefist,

I can accept the shoulder injury if not okay when she's winning and losing.

The problem is, if it's hurt then go have surgery and get it fixed. With all of her money, she can go to the best surgeon in the world and get it fixed and let it heal.

But don't say it's fine and not hurting when she's winning, then it's injured when she loses.

She can't keep coming up with these excuses for every loss. Just stick to the same story. If it's well, then it's well. If it's hurt, then it's hurt. But she needs to make up her mind as to what it is.

And If it's in her mind, then she needs to go to a sports psychologist.

mike1
Sep 1st, 2007, 11:54 PM
I fill sorry for her. I do think that, her self bealive is gone. Her los against the williams has to do with it. They exposed her so much. Whe i was watching her playing Venus at Wimbledon this year, i thought she was done. She need to go back to the drawing board.