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Serenidad.
Aug 30th, 2007, 07:56 PM
Do you judge a player by their second serve. A lot of experts tend to say the second serve of a player will determine career success. Generally, I feel this is true also.

Is a second serve indicative of a player's skill in GENERAL?

LudwigDvorak
Aug 30th, 2007, 07:57 PM
I think this thread is fuckin' stupid. [/cliche]

master40
Aug 30th, 2007, 08:16 PM
No. Dementieva.

Juju4ever
Aug 30th, 2007, 08:24 PM
Yeah, absolutely. It's great to have the big first serve, but in order to control your service games, you need good second serve. If we'll take Dementieve as example, she has super groundstrokes, but a terrible second serve. she can't control her service games. This is the reason she has never won a Grand Slam.

swissmr
Aug 30th, 2007, 08:26 PM
Hingis. 5 grand slams.

Chrissie-fan
Aug 30th, 2007, 08:26 PM
A lot of experts tend to say the second serve of a player will determine career success.

Is a second serve indicative of a player's skill in GENERAL?
Those are two seperate things. Yes, the second serve is a very important stroke and thus will on average have a big impact on a player's success. But those players who despite having a weak second serve succeed in having a great career need to have better overall skills to make up for that weakness.

Mightymirza
Aug 30th, 2007, 08:26 PM
of course..All great players have a very good 2nd serve (including venus! Shes served well when shes winning slams)

Mightymirza
Aug 30th, 2007, 08:27 PM
Hingis. 5 grand slams.

ohh yeah missed that one :o but thats a clear exception :) martina was out of this world ;)

PLP
Aug 30th, 2007, 08:29 PM
Yes, it's a huge factor. Martina is the only recent exception I can think of, though her serve doesn't break-down, it's just not powerful.
Vee's 2nd serve can be total crap at times too.

Freakan
Aug 30th, 2007, 08:34 PM
experts=you?

davidmario
Aug 30th, 2007, 08:53 PM
look at Molik's great second serve and what she is doing these days:help:
For me the most deciding factor is MOVEMENT!