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Forehand_Volley
Aug 30th, 2007, 04:40 PM
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070830143114.52ur3g60&show_article=1

Unnamed players allege corruption in professional tennis

Aug 30 10:31 AM US/Eastern

Match-fixing, some of which is linked to internet gambling, is not uncommon in professional tennis, according to a damaging report in L'Equipe on Thursday.

Two elite players made the claims, under anonymity, in an interview with the French sports daily claiming they have witnessed matches being "thrown" and that they had personally been offered bribes.

The allegations come in the wake of the controversy surrounding Russia's Nikolay Davydenko, who is the subject of an ATP enquiry.

Davydenko recenty pulled out a match injured on the same day that large sums of money had been bet on his defeat to Argentina's Martin Vassallo Arguello.

*******, an internet gambling website, refused to pay out on Davydenko's defeat. Seven million dollars in wagers, 10 times more than normal for such a match, swung to Arguello even after Davydenko won the first set.

The unnamed sources in L'Equipe's report called on the sport's authorities to act, "before things get out of hand".

"I know several players who have been approached, and who had the exact same experience as me," said one player, identified only as Mister B and who claimed he had been approached physically by someone offering him 50,000 dollars to lose a match.

He added: "Not for one second did I believe it was a joke. 50,000 dollars is more than what I would have got for getting to the semi-final in this tournament, and it was tax-free cash.

"I refused his offer straight away, but I was left wondering what direction we're going in."

The other player, identified as Mister A, said the availability of internet terminals in the players lounges has given rise to tennis coaches gambling on matches.

"If you look on the internet terminals in the players' lounges you will see that the gambling sites are very popular. I think that about 60-80 percent of coaches are betting," said Mister A.

"I personally know a lot of guys who are internet betting."

Mister A said he believes he has seen a Master match "being thrown", but admitted: "I've seen matches being thrown, and not just in the smaller tournaments, I've seen one in the Masters for example.

"But it's difficult to say whether it's linked to internet betting."

Ferosh
Aug 30th, 2007, 04:42 PM
Interesting...

Ryan
Aug 30th, 2007, 04:44 PM
:rolleyes: Players thow matches!?!?! No shit...they're just taking the one "experience" these players had and then insinuating that all thrown matches have money riding on them. Not only that, I dont trust any anonymous source's opinion on what constitutes a "thrown" match. And these are probably not elite players as the article claims, if they're not even making 50 grand for getting to the semis or final of a tourney. This really means nothing. :shrug:

Tennisstar86
Aug 30th, 2007, 04:45 PM
hrmmm.... I dont think thats a problem on the womens side........ they're alittle to catty and b***** to be giving victories away....

Forehand_Volley
Aug 30th, 2007, 04:59 PM
:rolleyes: Players thow matches!?!?! No shit...they're just taking the one "experience" these players had and then insinuating that all thrown matches have money riding on them. Not only that, I dont trust any anonymous source's opinion on what constitutes a "thrown" match. And these are probably not elite players as the article claims, if they're not even making 50 grand for getting to the semis or final of a tourney. This really means nothing. :shrug:
How safe would you feel as a traveling tennis professional if you admitted to a media source that someone offered you $50,000 to throw a match, without promising anonymity? There are very seedy individuals involved in gambling and I wouldn't want to be the one that outs them publicly unless directed under oath by a court of law. And even then I would be concerned about my personal safety.

Tennis has largely went unaffected by steroid scandals of other sports. It is looking as if this match-fixing scandal is growing legs.

Tennisation
Aug 30th, 2007, 05:32 PM
Larry Scott was offered 1 million dollar straight up cash if Maria Sharapova wins the US Open

jdyshrky
Aug 30th, 2007, 05:40 PM
I'm trying to think of any weird results this year...I dunno, Wimbledon semi finals? Last years AusOpen...

hablo
Aug 30th, 2007, 05:42 PM
How safe would you feel as a traveling tennis professional if you admitted to a media source that someone offered you $50,000 to throw a match, without promising anonymity? There are very seedy individuals involved in gambling and I wouldn't want to be the one that outs them publicly unless directed under oath by a court of law. And even then I would be concerned about my personal safety.Well said.

Tennis has largely went unaffected by steroid scandals of other sports. It is looking as if this match-fixing scandal is growing legs.
Sometimes, I wonder how rigorous doping tests are in the sport of tennis myself.

But this match-fixing scandal does indeed sound very serious.

Here's another link to an article I found on mtf :

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/tennis/2007-08-27-goldstein-gambling_N.htm

stefi62
Aug 30th, 2007, 05:43 PM
I remember some TV commentator, former player saying that a friend and her had fixed a few matches when they were meeting...

Forehand_Volley
Aug 30th, 2007, 05:58 PM
But this match-fixing scandal does indeed sound very serious.

Here's another link to an article I found on mtf :

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/tennis/2007-08-27-goldstein-gambling_N.htm

Goldstein says he was asked to influence match
August 28, 2007

Paul Goldstein admitted he has been approached about influencing the outcome of one of his matches.

By Douglas Robson, Special for USA TODAY

NEW YORK — As men's tennis investigates illegal betting patterns in the sport, a second ATP Tour player Monday admitted being approached to influence a match.

Veteran Paul Goldstein, who retired trailing Sebastian Grosjean 1-6, 1-4 Monday, said the offer happened in the last 18-24 months.

"It was shocking and upsetting," said the 31-year-old American, who felt "uncomfortable" providing any more details.

Asked what he said when approached, the 97th-ranked Goldstein said: "I laughed. It never crossed my mind for a second."

Earlier this month, Michael Llodra of France said he received a phone call at his hotel from an unknown caller asking him to "be relaxed" in his next-day's contest. Llodra, a former top-40 player and two-time Grand Slam champ in doubles, said he hung up.

These revelations come on the heels of an investigation by the ATP into suspicious betting on a match involving Nikolay Davydenko.

A British online gambling company, *******, annulled all wagers on a match in Poland between No. 4 Davydenko and No. 87 Martin Vassallo Arguello after betting topped $7 million, or more than 10 times the normal amount.

The ATP has since hired the British Horseracing Authority (BHA) and two outside experts to help assist with its investigation. ATP Chairman Etienne de Villiers also sent a strongly worded email to all the players regarding its no-tolerance policy for gambling.

On Thursday, the USTA announced it had hired a security firm run by a former New York City police commissioner and set up a whistle-blower hotline to forestall any gambling scandal.

Russian Davydenko, who beat 19-year-old Jesse Levine of the USA 6-4, 6-0, 6-1 Monday, again asserted his innocence and said he had yet to be interviewed by the ATP or other investigators. He said he expected that to happen following his participation at an event in Beijing that begins Sept. 10.

ATP spokesman Kris Dent said during the weekend the investigation was "incredibly thorough and comprehensive" and would take "months rather than weeks."

Asked this month if it was a problem in men's tennis, No. 3 Novak Djokovic of Serbia said, "Unfortunately, yes."

Other players acknowledge that in an individual sport such as tennis, where competitors are cramped together in locker rooms and where information flows freely among coaches, trainers, agents and players, it can be hard to police attempts to influence matches.

"I'm sure many fans bet on stuff and they hear inside scoop from some angle," said three-time defending champ Roger Federer.

Unlike the a team sport such as the NBA, which is dealing with its own scandal, tennis players can directly affect matche outcomes.

"We have so many players and some are struggling, it's not a great situation," said former pro Brad Gilbert, who now coaches No. 19 Andy Murray of Britain.

Goldstein expressed a zero-tolerance policy for any match tampering. "It warrants an immediate lifetime suspension," he said.

gaggleguy
Aug 30th, 2007, 06:04 PM
:rolleyes: Players thow matches!?!?! No shit...they're just taking the one "experience" these players had and then insinuating that all thrown matches have money riding on them. Not only that, I dont trust any anonymous source's opinion on what constitutes a "thrown" match. And these are probably not elite players as the article claims, if they're not even making 50 grand for getting to the semis or final of a tourney. This really means nothing. :shrug:


you are an idiot

if the player doesn't stay anonomous when making this statement somebody may come and break his legs or shoot him.

maybe you are really rich boy but for many tennis pros in Top 100, 50000$ is a lot of money.

Slutiana
Aug 30th, 2007, 06:20 PM
Its not the women, it can't be. (Although it would explain why tati lost to rolle:p) The women are, as someone said, too bitchy and want to win so much but the men are different.....

The stupid thing is that you'd have to approach a top player if you want to make much money from it and since money isn't a problem for players like davydenko, i dont see the point of throwing away your career for petty money. Unless the player is threatened:shrug:

TU

jellybelly
Aug 30th, 2007, 06:32 PM
Hah! THe freaks used to accuse the WILLIAMS of match fixing and now it turns out the whitest players in the game are behind it and there is no outrage :tape:

Anabelcroft
Aug 30th, 2007, 08:33 PM
Don't know about wta,but for sure know about one fixed atp match in Halle last year-although unimportant that much!

PLP
Aug 30th, 2007, 08:42 PM
hrmmm.... I dont think thats a problem on the womens side........ they're alittle to catty and b***** to be giving victories away....

:lol:
I know, right?
As if Masha would tank a GS final just for money...or would she??!
:eek:

PLP
Aug 30th, 2007, 08:44 PM
Hah! THe freaks used to accuse the WILLIAMS of match fixing and now it turns out the whitest players in the game are behind it and there is no outrage :tape:

Seriously! I can't believe anyone would have believed those rumors, considering how competitive they both are. Never in a million years, never ever EVER would that happen.

gaggleguy
Aug 30th, 2007, 09:04 PM
Seriously! I can't believe anyone would have believed those rumors, considering how competitive they both are. Never in a million years, never ever EVER would that happen.


come on, everybody knows Richard was fixing the results of those sister-sister matches in the early 2000s. When the public pressure came after Indian Wells he had to quit that racket.

Ryan
Aug 30th, 2007, 09:15 PM
you are an idiot

if the player doesn't stay anonomous when making this statement somebody may come and break his legs or shoot him.

maybe you are really rich boy but for many tennis pros in Top 100, 50000$ is a lot of money.


Fuck you, dumbass. Im actually a Journalism major, which is why I dont trust an anonymous source. Obviously the player would WANT anonymity, but it does not lend credibility to the argument or case for match-fixing. I also questioned the author trying to make the player sould like someone in the top 15-20, by calling them "elite", I never said 50000 wasnt a lot of money. Fool.

Chrissie-fan
Aug 30th, 2007, 10:07 PM
come on, everybody knows Richard was fixing the results of those sister-sister matches in the early 2000s.
:smash:

1998-2001 Venus vs Serena h2h: 5-2
2002-2003 Serena vs Venus h2h: 6-0

Venus must have had a lot of sisterly love to agree to a fix where she lost six in a row after having been the better player early on in their rivalry.

StarDuvallGrant
Aug 30th, 2007, 10:24 PM
come on, everybody knows Richard was fixing the results of those sister-sister matches in the early 2000s. When the public pressure came after Indian Wells he had to quit that racket.

All the talk of Venus/Serena matches being fixed amounted to one of many on a list of jealousy thrown their way by other players and commentators. No one sat down and thought that to get to the point of fixing a match both Serena and Venus would have to beat the competition before them. All the girls who just got beat were mad and envious that they just weren't good enough so what better than to attempt to sully the victors.

alexia1huff
Aug 30th, 2007, 10:32 PM
Players thow matches!?!?! No shit...they're just taking the one "experience" these players had and then insinuating that all thrown matches have money riding on them. Not only that, I dont trust any anonymous source's opinion on what constitutes a "thrown" match. And these are probably not elite players as the article claims, if they're not even making 50 grand for getting to the semis or final of a tourney. This really means nothing.
Cheating is always cheating, no matter what the scale of it. I know of many lower ranked players that payed "just" 200euros for a match. While other players (especially in Grand slams) go to the gs and collectively arrange their matches, they retire etc. staking money against themselves. This is in atp, in wta i only heard of 2 of such things...