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Pureracket
Aug 26th, 2007, 09:47 PM
Ok....ok....I like mens tennis, but the personalities and the passion in womens tennis has always been more compelling to me. It always has, and it always will be.

More specifically, I'm an huge fan of both the Williams Sisters.

In talking to some of my buddies who play tennis, some of them seem to think that having only Venus and Serena on tomorrow night @ AA is too politically correct.

They making comments like, "Why not put Scoville Jenkins on vs Federer. Didn't Jenkins benefit from this too?"

Also, "Unless we stop focusing on race, it'll never die."

"What if it rains?"

"Why just Venus and Serena? Shouldn't they have other players from other races on to show just how far we've all come?"

What do you think?

Jericho
Aug 26th, 2007, 09:55 PM
cuz they can be PC and make money off the sisters at the same time ;)

Slutiana
Aug 26th, 2007, 10:00 PM
i agree with jericho. They can sound politically correct but at the same time, they're the most faous tennis players. I don't care what anyone says, if you say venus or serena anywhere in the world, it's likely they will know what you are talking about and it shows in the TV Ratings. More people want to see venus and serena play than any other tennis player so they're obviously gonna be making dough on the opening night. But it also looks like a great tribute. Why not?

ico4498
Aug 26th, 2007, 10:04 PM
In talking to some of my buddies who play tennis, some of them seem to think that having only Venus and Serena on tomorrow night @ AA is too politically correct.

yah have really sensitive friends.

someone wrote that Afro tennis champions are probably the most exclusive fraternity in sports.

it is ok to celebrate 'em every 100 yrs or so ...

Infiniti2001
Aug 26th, 2007, 10:12 PM
Venus and Serena are the only 2 African American women/ladies who have won the US Open since Althea Gibson. What's pc about having them play on the night of a celebration of her life? Some people think too damn much--- there are more pressing issues out there if you asked me :shrug:

Pureracket
Aug 26th, 2007, 10:37 PM
Venus and Serena are the only 2 African American women/ladies who have won the US Open since Althea Gibson. What's pc about having them play on the night of a celebration of her life? Some people think too damn much--- there are more pressing issues out there if you asked me :shrug:
I was actually kinda surprised that some of the people felt this way as I didn't really see a problem with it. Hell, Fed will probably lay a killing on Scoville.

thrust
Aug 26th, 2007, 11:28 PM
Infiniti2001- Very well put! Althea very much deserves the tribute and having the Sisters play that night is appropriate.

SvetaPleaseWin.
Aug 26th, 2007, 11:31 PM
its a good tribute to gibson and us tv audiences tune in for the williams' so it makes sense :)

mckyle.
Aug 26th, 2007, 11:32 PM
Venus/Serena combo sells more tickets than Scoville, Donald, Jamea, Shenay, etc.

LoveFifteen
Aug 26th, 2007, 11:37 PM
It's a fantastic tribute. I think it's perfect.

1000
Aug 26th, 2007, 11:38 PM
Well, since they are the only two African American ladies, yes ladies, to win since Althea Gibson, who was also a lady, then the tribute makes perfectly good sense.

TNT96
Aug 27th, 2007, 12:02 AM
I think it is do to the tribute of A Gibson.
Does anybody remember if there was a tradition at the US Open on who played the first evening match?

No Name Face
Aug 27th, 2007, 12:04 AM
I was actually kinda surprised that some of the people felt this way as I didn't really see a problem with it. Hell, Fed will probably lay a killing on Scoville.

if fed beats scoville, does that make him racist?

Adamatp
Aug 27th, 2007, 12:08 AM
Gibson deserves the tribute and we should be glad that women's tennis is getting the exposure on national television. On the other hand, this means I am going to see two blow-out matches, although the disappointment will be somewhat lessened by the bar and dinner served in the corporate box I have been lucky enough to be invited to.....

Marcell
Aug 27th, 2007, 12:08 AM
This might have something to do with it. Check out the relationship with the sisters and Althea Gibson.

From The Sunday Times
August 26, 2007
Ten years in orbit
The Williams sisters have lit up tennis for a decade and have high hopes for the US Open
Barry Flatman in New York

Tradition does not play such a prominent role at the US Open as it does at Wimbledon. The champions are not afforded the honour of beginning play on the main court, the players are not required to dress predominantly in white.

Even the men’s final, which will be held a fortnight today, cannot be given an exact starting time because nobody is too sure just how long the opening match of the American football season will run, and the fact is that the television coverage governs everything at this tournament.

But the relevance of the venue and the occasion will not be lost on Venus and Serena Williams tomorrow. The two sisters, who began 2007 as supposed spent forces and arrive at the concluding Grand Slam event of the calendar having collected two of the three preceding majors � Venus won at Wimbledon and Serena took the Australian Open. They play back-to-back openers here on what promises to be a very special first night.

The United States Tennis Association (USTA) prides itself on putting on a show (chief executive Arlen Kantarian used to mastermind the Super Bowl’s half-time extravaganza before being head-hunted to liven up the tennis presentation), so a ceremony to celebrate the 50th anniversary of Althea Gibson becoming the first black tennis player to win what were then known as the US Championships will be a spectacle as grand as anything staged in the 23,000-seat Arthur Ashe stadium.

Aretha Franklin will sing, fireworks will fly and a few tears may be shed in a dazzling salute to black women pioneers in sports, entertainment, politics and the arts. For Venus it would be the perfect launch pad for two weeks, which, if successful, would herald a feat worthy of another festival-like celebration. Belying her image as the more reticent of the sisters, she maintained: “If I can match my form at Wimbledon, I will be unbeatable here. I’m one of the main contenders for the US Open.”

In the preOpen era, Gibson, who died in 2003 aged 76, was the first black athlete � male or female � to win a Grand Slam event when she defeated Britain’s Angela Mortimer at the 1956 French Championships at Roland Garros.

She followed that by winning two US titles, in 1957 and 1958, after taking the Wimbledon crown on both occasions. Her legend has served as a career-long inspiration for both Williams sisters.

Serena once wrote a high-school project on Gibson and even faxed her some questions, while Venus developed a long-distance relationship on the telephone, nurtured by an Englishwoman, Gibson’s former doubles partner and long-time friend Angela Buxton.

Before Venus’s first US Open appearance 10 years ago, which produced a memorable run to the final, Gibson informed her: “Be who you are and let your racket do the talking. The crowd will love you.”

In the prelude to the 2000 Wimbledon final, in which Venus overcame Lindsay Davenport, Gibson telephoned some tactical instructions via Zina Garrison, the US Fed Cup captain. The message was simple: bend the knees, move the feet more. When the champion subsequently hoisted the trophy aloft, Gibson reportedly turned up the volume of her television set and toasted the victory with a glass of ginger ale.

When she watched the two sisters contest the US Open final 14 months later, Gibson acknowledged that the door she had nudged ajar nearly half a century earlier had been opened wide.

Following in the footsteps of Gibson and Ashe, who as an army officer cadet took the winners’ trophy back up the Hudson River to West Point in 1968, the Williams sisters have left their own special legacy in tennis.

This year more black American players than ever are contesting the tournament. As the USTA’s chief diversity officer, Karlyn Lothery, said: “People had a traditional thought of what tennis was supposed to look like. Venus and Serena changed that.”

Few people would have dared to speculate on what impact the pair of sisters raised in the Los Angeles ghetto of Compton would have, not just on the game of tennis but on American life. Another decade could see even more momentous change, but Venus held back when it came to speculation. “It’s hard to predict what will happen 10 years down the line,” she said. “I didn’t ever know how to think ahead to the next year.

“It’s still exciting and I will be here as long as I can. I’m really blessed, but if I want more, for sure, I’m not going to let go. I have always wanted to have a life outside of tennis and I think it makes my tennis greater because it makes me appreciate it more.”

Not surprisingly, the US television networks love the Williams sisters. When they contested the 2001 US Open final, it was watched by an incredible 23m viewers � one of the best tennis audiences of all time. The network bosses cannot expect a repeat this year because the sisters are in the same sector of the draw and could meet at the quarter-final stage.

However, there is the distinct chance that neither will get that far. Serena hasn’t played a match since Wimbledon because of a thumb injury. Last week her father and coach, Richard, insisted that the wisest option would be not to play at Flushing Meadows.

Venus, meanwhile, has been suffering with tendonitis in her left knee, but withdrew from the Toronto tournament two weeks ago complaining of tendonitis in her right knee as well as mild exhaustion.

Such claims are easy to ridicule. The pair have played a total of 71 matches this year, seven fewer than the workaholic Wimbledon mixed doubles champion and US Open third seed Jelena Jankovic has completed on her own.

However, the sisters’ exploits in Melbourne and on the lawns of the All England Club demand respect. Ignoring their credentials is folly.

Technically there have been a few changes to their games.

They are hitting their forehands � notoriously their more wayward wing � much better and their switch to thinner-beamed rackets has helped in that respect.

Their fitness will always be a mystery until they get into their stride.

As Pam Shriver, herself a teenage finalist in the late 1970s, said: “They could win the whole thing, they could withdraw before the tournament starts, or they could just as easily lose in the first couple of rounds.”

However, for the time being Venus and Serena will just be honoured to play a part in an evening designed to celebrate a woman who was in the vanguard for what they have gone on to achieve.

Perhaps even Wimbledon could learn that occasionally it is good to take a break from tradition and celebrate some exceptional exploits from the past.

vw.
Aug 27th, 2007, 12:33 AM
Scoville was also a Qualifier. It wasn't guaranteed that he was going to draw Roger. The USTA announced that Venus and Serena were going to play back to back on Friday, a day before the qualifiers were placed.

harloo
Aug 27th, 2007, 12:49 AM
Awe man, why does Scoville have to play my favorite male tennis player this early? Sco has such bad luck, Fed is gonna kill him in three sets.:sad:

ico4498
Aug 27th, 2007, 12:50 AM
if fed beats scoville, does that make him racist?

???

i don't think racism per se stops anyone from being successful in tennis. i do believe overcoming popular ethnic stereotypes has a effect on athletes.

read this (http://www.gladwell.com/2000/2000_08_21_a_choking.htm), apologies if i've misunderstood your post.

small excerpt;

"Steele and others have found stereotype threat at work in any situation where groups are depicted in negative ways. Give a group of qualified women a math test and tell them it will measure their quantitative ability and they'll do much worse than equally skilled men will; present the same test simply as a research tool and they'll do just as well as the men. Or consider a handful of experiments conducted by one of Steele's former graduate students, Julio Garcia, a professor at Tufts University. Garcia gathered together a group of white, athletic students and had a white instructor lead them through a series of physical tests: to jump as high as they could, to do a standing broad jump, and to see how many pushups they could do in twenty seconds. The instructor then asked them to do the tests a second time, and, as you'd expect, Garcia found that the students did a little better on each of the tasks the second time around. Then Garcia ran a second group of students through the tests, this time replacing the instructor between the first and second trials with an African-American. Now the white students ceased to improve on their vertical leaps. He did the experiment again, only this time he replaced the white instructor with a black instructor who was much taller and heavier than the previous black instructor. In this trial, the white students actually jumped less high than they had the first time around. Their performance on the pushups, though, was unchanged in each of the conditions. There is no stereotype, after all, that suggests that whites can't do as many pushups as blacks. The task that was affected was the vertical leap, because of what our culture says: white men can't jump."

mykarma
Aug 27th, 2007, 12:50 AM
This might have something to do with it. Check out the relationship with the sisters and Althea Gibson.

From The Sunday Times
August 26, 2007
Ten years in orbit
The Williams sisters have lit up tennis for a decade and have high hopes for the US Open
Barry Flatman in New York

Tradition does not play such a prominent role at the US Open as it does at Wimbledon. The champions are not afforded the honour of beginning play on the main court, the players are not required to dress predominantly in white.

Even the men’s final, which will be held a fortnight today, cannot be given an exact starting time because nobody is too sure just how long the opening match of the American football season will run, and the fact is that the television coverage governs everything at this tournament.

But the relevance of the venue and the occasion will not be lost on Venus and Serena Williams tomorrow. The two sisters, who began 2007 as supposed spent forces and arrive at the concluding Grand Slam event of the calendar having collected two of the three preceding majors � Venus won at Wimbledon and Serena took the Australian Open. They play back-to-back openers here on what promises to be a very special first night.

The United States Tennis Association (USTA) prides itself on putting on a show (chief executive Arlen Kantarian used to mastermind the Super Bowl’s half-time extravaganza before being head-hunted to liven up the tennis presentation), so a ceremony to celebrate the 50th anniversary of Althea Gibson becoming the first black tennis player to win what were then known as the US Championships will be a spectacle as grand as anything staged in the 23,000-seat Arthur Ashe stadium.

Aretha Franklin will sing, fireworks will fly and a few tears may be shed in a dazzling salute to black women pioneers in sports, entertainment, politics and the arts. For Venus it would be the perfect launch pad for two weeks, which, if successful, would herald a feat worthy of another festival-like celebration. Belying her image as the more reticent of the sisters, she maintained: “If I can match my form at Wimbledon, I will be unbeatable here. I’m one of the main contenders for the US Open.”

In the preOpen era, Gibson, who died in 2003 aged 76, was the first black athlete � male or female � to win a Grand Slam event when she defeated Britain’s Angela Mortimer at the 1956 French Championships at Roland Garros.

She followed that by winning two US titles, in 1957 and 1958, after taking the Wimbledon crown on both occasions. Her legend has served as a career-long inspiration for both Williams sisters.

Serena once wrote a high-school project on Gibson and even faxed her some questions, while Venus developed a long-distance relationship on the telephone, nurtured by an Englishwoman, Gibson’s former doubles partner and long-time friend Angela Buxton.

Before Venus’s first US Open appearance 10 years ago, which produced a memorable run to the final, Gibson informed her: “Be who you are and let your racket do the talking. The crowd will love you.”

In the prelude to the 2000 Wimbledon final, in which Venus overcame Lindsay Davenport, Gibson telephoned some tactical instructions via Zina Garrison, the US Fed Cup captain. The message was simple: bend the knees, move the feet more. When the champion subsequently hoisted the trophy aloft, Gibson reportedly turned up the volume of her television set and toasted the victory with a glass of ginger ale.

When she watched the two sisters contest the US Open final 14 months later, Gibson acknowledged that the door she had nudged ajar nearly half a century earlier had been opened wide.

Following in the footsteps of Gibson and Ashe, who as an army officer cadet took the winners’ trophy back up the Hudson River to West Point in 1968, the Williams sisters have left their own special legacy in tennis.

This year more black American players than ever are contesting the tournament. As the USTA’s chief diversity officer, Karlyn Lothery, said: “People had a traditional thought of what tennis was supposed to look like. Venus and Serena changed that.”

Few people would have dared to speculate on what impact the pair of sisters raised in the Los Angeles ghetto of Compton would have, not just on the game of tennis but on American life. Another decade could see even more momentous change, but Venus held back when it came to speculation. “It’s hard to predict what will happen 10 years down the line,” she said. “I didn’t ever know how to think ahead to the next year.

“It’s still exciting and I will be here as long as I can. I’m really blessed, but if I want more, for sure, I’m not going to let go. I have always wanted to have a life outside of tennis and I think it makes my tennis greater because it makes me appreciate it more.”

Not surprisingly, the US television networks love the Williams sisters. When they contested the 2001 US Open final, it was watched by an incredible 23m viewers � one of the best tennis audiences of all time. The network bosses cannot expect a repeat this year because the sisters are in the same sector of the draw and could meet at the quarter-final stage.

However, there is the distinct chance that neither will get that far. Serena hasn’t played a match since Wimbledon because of a thumb injury. Last week her father and coach, Richard, insisted that the wisest option would be not to play at Flushing Meadows.

Venus, meanwhile, has been suffering with tendonitis in her left knee, but withdrew from the Toronto tournament two weeks ago complaining of tendonitis in her right knee as well as mild exhaustion.

Such claims are easy to ridicule. The pair have played a total of 71 matches this year, seven fewer than the workaholic Wimbledon mixed doubles champion and US Open third seed Jelena Jankovic has completed on her own.

However, the sisters’ exploits in Melbourne and on the lawns of the All England Club demand respect. Ignoring their credentials is folly.

Technically there have been a few changes to their games.

They are hitting their forehands � notoriously their more wayward wing � much better and their switch to thinner-beamed rackets has helped in that respect.

Their fitness will always be a mystery until they get into their stride.

As Pam Shriver, herself a teenage finalist in the late 1970s, said: “They could win the whole thing, they could withdraw before the tournament starts, or they could just as easily lose in the first couple of rounds.”

However, for the time being Venus and Serena will just be honoured to play a part in an evening designed to celebrate a woman who was in the vanguard for what they have gone on to achieve.

Perhaps even Wimbledon could learn that occasionally it is good to take a break from tradition and celebrate some exceptional exploits from the past.
:worship::worship:

Pureracket
Aug 27th, 2007, 02:43 AM
Btw, some of the posters on MTF are going apeshit over the USTA's decision to do this.

Xander
Aug 27th, 2007, 02:46 AM
I don't think it's too pc at all. It's quite fitting to have Venus and Serena play in Althea's honor.

Also, "Unless we stop focusing on race, it'll never die."

I completely disagree. That way of thinking (wanting everyone to be the same) is actually the foundation of racism and prejudice in general. It still amazes me that in 2007 some people are STILL afraid to cite a person's race as if it's a dirty word. If Ai Sugiyama (for example) is Asian why not just say it as opposed to describing her as dark-haired and small in stature. America is a race-minded nation so we need to stop being so tentative about race and feeling left out as in cases like this tribute, celebrating someone's triumph as a result of their race.

sammy01
Aug 27th, 2007, 02:54 AM
had to double take then, as i thought it said 'in' AA and thought i didn't know either of them had a drink problem!

No Name Face
Aug 27th, 2007, 02:58 AM
???

i don't think racism per se stops anyone from being successful in tennis. i do believe overcoming popular ethnic stereotypes has a effect on athletes.

read this (http://www.gladwell.com/2000/2000_08_21_a_choking.htm), apologies if i've misunderstood your post.

small excerpt;

"Steele and others have found stereotype threat at work in any situation where groups are depicted in negative ways. Give a group of qualified women a math test and tell them it will measure their quantitative ability and they'll do much worse than equally skilled men will; present the same test simply as a research tool and they'll do just as well as the men. Or consider a handful of experiments conducted by one of Steele's former graduate students, Julio Garcia, a professor at Tufts University. Garcia gathered together a group of white, athletic students and had a white instructor lead them through a series of physical tests: to jump as high as they could, to do a standing broad jump, and to see how many pushups they could do in twenty seconds. The instructor then asked them to do the tests a second time, and, as you'd expect, Garcia found that the students did a little better on each of the tasks the second time around. Then Garcia ran a second group of students through the tests, this time replacing the instructor between the first and second trials with an African-American. Now the white students ceased to improve on their vertical leaps. He did the experiment again, only this time he replaced the white instructor with a black instructor who was much taller and heavier than the previous black instructor. In this trial, the white students actually jumped less high than they had the first time around. Their performance on the pushups, though, was unchanged in each of the conditions. There is no stereotype, after all, that suggests that whites can't do as many pushups as blacks. The task that was affected was the vertical leap, because of what our culture says: white men can't jump."

it was textbook sarcasm.
derivative sarcasm, if i dare.

thanks for the short novel though. :p

No Name Face
Aug 27th, 2007, 03:13 AM
???

i don't think racism per se stops anyone from being successful in tennis. i do believe overcoming popular ethnic stereotypes has a effect on athletes.

read this (http://www.gladwell.com/2000/2000_08_21_a_choking.htm), apologies if i've misunderstood your post.

small excerpt;

"Steele and others have found stereotype threat at work in any situation where groups are depicted in negative ways. Give a group of qualified women a math test and tell them it will measure their quantitative ability and they'll do much worse than equally skilled men will; present the same test simply as a research tool and they'll do just as well as the men. Or consider a handful of experiments conducted by one of Steele's former graduate students, Julio Garcia, a professor at Tufts University. Garcia gathered together a group of white, athletic students and had a white instructor lead them through a series of physical tests: to jump as high as they could, to do a standing broad jump, and to see how many pushups they could do in twenty seconds. The instructor then asked them to do the tests a second time, and, as you'd expect, Garcia found that the students did a little better on each of the tasks the second time around. Then Garcia ran a second group of students through the tests, this time replacing the instructor between the first and second trials with an African-American. Now the white students ceased to improve on their vertical leaps. He did the experiment again, only this time he replaced the white instructor with a black instructor who was much taller and heavier than the previous black instructor. In this trial, the white students actually jumped less high than they had the first time around. Their performance on the pushups, though, was unchanged in each of the conditions. There is no stereotype, after all, that suggests that whites can't do as many pushups as blacks. The task that was affected was the vertical leap, because of what our culture says: white men can't jump."

it was textbook sarcasm.
derivative sarcasm, if i dare.

thanks for the short novel though. :p

Marshmallow
Aug 27th, 2007, 03:53 AM
It's a misunderstanding IMO. The article posted by Marcell clearly indicates that Venus and Serena at least had some kind of direct relationship with Althea. They knew each other and were on good terms, so forthat reason, it makes sense to have them on after the tribute. The racial aspect may just be a coincidence in the masterminding of this move.

Either way i hope this nonsense about PC doesn't overshadow 'Remembering Althea'. The woman deserves a tremendous amout of respect for what she did.

HippityHop
Aug 27th, 2007, 07:09 AM
I think it's great. But I am really hoping and praying that they both get through their first round matches. It would a disaster if they both lost.

Bruno71
Aug 27th, 2007, 07:45 AM
Great tribute...they're doing it right.

starin
Aug 27th, 2007, 08:52 AM
As Pam Shriver, herself a teenage finalist in the late 1970s, said: “They could win the whole thing, they could withdraw before the tournament starts, or they could just as easily lose in the first couple of rounds.”

However, for the time being Venus and Serena will just be honoured to play a part in an evening designed to celebrate a woman who was in the vanguard for what they have gone on to achieve.

Perhaps even Wimbledon could learn that occasionally it is good to take a break from tradition and celebrate some exceptional exploits from the past.

:lol: :tape:
seriously, both WS are the most unpredictable champions tennis has ever seen. With Venus you never know if she is going to play dominating tennis and crush her opponents or spray butt loads of error and go down some random girl nobody has ever heard of or will hear of again.
With Serena you never know if she's even going to play. lol. And when she does play she can be just as mercurial as Venus. She doesn't spray as much but sometimes she come out looking out of shape but then just proceeds to crush her opponents.

Brian Stewart
Aug 27th, 2007, 10:53 AM
It's a worthy tribute, and very fitting that Venus and Serena are showcased. But let's face it, there is a very high element of USTA PR at play here, too. The USTA is making a public display here, to "prove" they aren't racist (much like some in the tennis community/media use my fave to "prove" it: "I'm not racist-- I love Chanda. In fact, I love her so much I never mention her except when someone accuses me of being racist." Okay, they usually leave the last part out. :) )

It's much like the USTA's minority development programs, which are usually just photo ops. Bring some kids out for an afternoon of swatting balls, get some film and pics, and the kids never see a court again.

Now, are there some folks at the USTA who genuinely want to pay tribute to Althea, and would genuinely like to see the sport reach out to all people? Yes. Are they aware that some others are using this as mere PR? Yes. But it's the right thing to do, whether it's done for the right reasons or the wrong reasons.

darice
Aug 27th, 2007, 11:44 AM
It's a worthy tribute, and very fitting that Venus and Serena are showcased. But let's face it, there is a very high element of USTA PR at play here, too. The USTA is making a public display here, to "prove" they aren't racist (much like some in the tennis community/media use my fave to "prove" it: "I'm not racist-- I love Chanda. In fact, I love her so much I never mention her except when someone accuses me of being racist." Okay, they usually leave the last part out. :) )

It's much like the USTA's minority development programs, which are usually just photo ops. Bring some kids out for an afternoon of swatting balls, get some film and pics, and the kids never see a court again.

Now, are there some folks at the USTA who genuinely want to pay tribute to Althea, and would genuinely like to see the sport reach out to all people? Yes. Are they aware that some others are using this as mere PR? Yes. But it's the right thing to do, whether it's done for the right reasons or the wrong reasons.

speaking of the usta (my whole family are members) this is from today's (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more_sports/2007/08/27/2007-08-27_us_open_no_match_for_arthur_ashes_spirit.html) new york daily news.

V-MAC
Aug 27th, 2007, 12:03 PM
Btw, some of the posters on MTF are going apeshit over the USTA's decision to do this.

Just checked out that thread :o Wow, I didn't know there was such a hatred for womens tennis in general over there.

BuTtErFrEnA
Aug 27th, 2007, 12:04 PM
It's a worthy tribute, and very fitting that Venus and Serena are showcased. But let's face it, there is a very high element of USTA PR at play here, too. The USTA is making a public display here, to "prove" they aren't racist (much like some in the tennis community/media use my fave to "prove" it: "I'm not racist-- I love Chanda. In fact, I love her so much I never mention her except when someone accuses me of being racist." Okay, they usually leave the last part out. :) )

It's much like the USTA's minority development programs, which are usually just photo ops. Bring some kids out for an afternoon of swatting balls, get some film and pics, and the kids never see a court again.

Now, are there some folks at the USTA who genuinely want to pay tribute to Althea, and would genuinely like to see the sport reach out to all people? Yes. Are they aware that some others are using this as mere PR? Yes. But it's the right thing to do, whether it's done for the right reasons or the wrong reasons.

my exact feelings.....whether the motives are good or bad they are doing the right thing...suppose a whole lot of white celebrities decided "i don't want to seem racist so i'll give some money to the black community" that will be the wrong motive but it's still the right thing to do...a whole lot of things are done for the wrong reason but are the right things to do

BuTtErFrEnA
Aug 27th, 2007, 12:04 PM
Just checked out that thread :o Wow, I didn't know there was such a hatred for womens tennis in general over there.

yea it is and it's pathetic :o

Morrissey
Aug 27th, 2007, 02:09 PM
Althea Gibson's life DESERVES to be celebrated. The USTA is by no means perfect though and even Richard Williams criticized the USTA. At Wimbledon this year Richard said the USTA is just looking for white kids to become tennis champions and ignoring and not developing minority children. The USTA is doing the right thing probably for PR but I do believe Althea Gibson's life deserves to be celebrated people need to know about her. Why not pick up a book and read about Althea? Althea went through SO MUCH RACISM and the SEXISM during her life. I mean this woman got called the N word while playing in tennis events in AMERICA. Yet the woman went on to win the French Open, Wimbledon twice and US OPEN twice. Venus and Serena LOVE Althea Gibson she's a major role model in their lives and they respect this woman. Venus and Serena also have bought the movie rights to make a movie about Althea Gibson's life. Its not politically correct. Perhaps some people are just a bit too UNCOMFORTABLE with the truth that tennis is still a lily white sport. Sure, the Williams Sisters are champions but they are the ONLY African American CHAMPIONS after Gibson. Don't people get it? Serena was the first black woman since 1957 to win US OPEN and Venus was the first black woman since 1957 to win Wimbledon. It is the 50th anniversary of Althea breaking the colour barrier overcoming so much racism and sexism to become champions. And since Althea's time ONLY the Williams Sisters are the ONLY black women to have BECOME tennis champions SINCE. I think tennis has a long way to go and I commend the Williams Sisters for taking part and doing their part. They respect and love Althea Gibson.

Pureracket
Aug 27th, 2007, 02:37 PM
yea it is and it's pathetic :oThought ya'll knew.

BuTtErFrEnA
Aug 27th, 2007, 02:45 PM
Thought ya'll knew.

didn't know it that well until now :o

Expat
Aug 27th, 2007, 03:34 PM
its politically correct as well as economically sound
great decision according to me
will be watching the williams sisters at prime time