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In The Zone
Aug 26th, 2007, 08:31 PM
M. Sharapova 3147
J. Jankovic 3117
S. Kuznetsova 3082

This is everyone's ranking point total with 2006's US Open off, courtesy of TBE. :angel:

Basically. Whoever makes it the farthest at the US Open will be our # 2 ranked player, behind Justine, as the US Open is a MANDATORY event in one's ranking.

Personally, I do not see Jelena in the final. For me, it comes down to the potential SF between Sveta and Maria.

Go get 'em Svetlana.

Bruno71
Aug 26th, 2007, 08:58 PM
It'll likely be Maria #2, Sveta #3, JJ #4 after the US Open. Sveta really benefitted from the Pilot Pen "Classic" win and both Maria & Sveta have the much easier draw. I don't think Sveta is immune from an early upset though, even with the easier draw...should be interesting to see.

Mightymirza
Aug 26th, 2007, 09:21 PM
Cant Ana be in top 4?? :confused:

Bruno71
Aug 26th, 2007, 09:32 PM
Cant Ana be in top 4?? :confused:

Surely...she could be as high as #2 in some scenarios.

In The Zone
Aug 26th, 2007, 09:51 PM
Surely...she could be as high as #2 in some scenarios.

Yep. If Ana is a finalist while the other 3 disappear in the first 3 rounds, Ana can be # 2. In order for Ana to get to # 2, a championship is most likely in order and then, Maria would need to lose VERY early. So it's very unlikely.

SvetaPleaseWin.
Aug 26th, 2007, 09:56 PM
svetas gonna be #2 :D

@Sweet Cleopatra
Aug 26th, 2007, 10:01 PM
I don't understand the ranking I read it's
M.Sharapova 3845
JJ 3429
Sk 3000
or you deleted the points from US 2006

SvetaPleaseWin.
Aug 26th, 2007, 10:04 PM
I don't understand the ranking I read it's
M.Sharapova 3845
JJ 3429
Sk 3000
or you deleted the points from US 2006

the points are off from '06

@Sweet Cleopatra
Aug 26th, 2007, 10:07 PM
OMG Masha must defend her points , and win US open

goldenlox
Aug 26th, 2007, 11:25 PM
Sveta did very little last year, so this is her chance at #2.
Sharapova has a lot to defend all fall.

Harvs
Aug 26th, 2007, 11:45 PM
i cant see sveta getting past maria...:)

heytennis
Aug 26th, 2007, 11:50 PM
I'm thinking it will stay the same as it is now. Maria as #2, Jelena as #3 and Sveta as #4.

sunsfuns
Aug 27th, 2007, 12:10 AM
Yep. If Ana is a finalist while the other 3 disappear in the first 3 rounds, Ana can be # 2. In order for Ana to get to # 2, a championship is most likely in order and then, Maria would need to lose VERY early. So it's very unlikely.

That's right, but looking longer term Ana still has a good chance to move up higher this year. She is ahead of both Maria and Sveta in this years points. Draw is not exactly friendly though :(

tenn_ace
Aug 27th, 2007, 12:26 AM
Points by round:

1st - 2
2nd - 60
3rd - 90
4th - 140
QF - 250
SF -450
F- 700
Winner -1000

goldenlox
Aug 27th, 2007, 12:26 AM
Sharapova is #5 in 2007 points, but not that far ahead of Anna, who is #7.
A so-so fall and Sharapova will be around #7.

tenn_ace
Aug 27th, 2007, 12:37 AM
Jankovic will play Stosur in 3rd, Dementieva/Bammer in 4th and V.Williams/Ivanovic in QF
Kuznetsova will play Medina Garrigues in 3rd, Hingis/Azarenka/Cibulkova in 4th, Petrova/Szavay/Krajicek/Hantuchova in QF
Sharapova will play Radwanska in 3rd, Vaidisova/Peer in 4th and Chakvetadze/Mirza/Schnyder in QF

tenn_ace
Aug 27th, 2007, 12:39 AM
Hoping Sveta will use this opportunity! :bounce:

sunsfuns
Aug 27th, 2007, 01:40 AM
#2 player really ought to be some one who has won a GS that year (unless #1 has won 3 or more). I hope it turns out to be that way...

ZeroSOFInfinity
Aug 27th, 2007, 02:52 AM
Sharapova looks dead on for #2... yet, I have a gut feeling she would be out early this time around, and Jelena will snatch #2 from her.

heytennis
Aug 27th, 2007, 03:36 AM
Jankovic will play Stosur in 3rd, Dementieva/Bammer in 4th and V.Williams/Ivanovic in QF
Kuznetsova will play Medina Garrigues in 3rd, Hingis/Azarenka/Cibulkova in 4th, Petrova/Szavay/Krajicek/Hantuchova in QF
Sharapova will play Radwanska in 3rd, Vaidisova/Peer in 4th and Chakvetadze/Mirza/Schnyder in QF

Looks like Kuznetsova has it the easiest but her results are hard to predict. I hope she makes the semis.

In The Zone
Aug 27th, 2007, 03:40 AM
Sharapova looks dead on for #2... yet, I have a gut feeling she would be out early this time around, and Jelena will snatch #2 from her.

Out early? TO WHO? She has a breeze to the QF.

heytennis
Aug 27th, 2007, 03:48 AM
Out early? TO WHO? She has a breeze to the QF.

Vaidisova.

AcesHigh
Aug 27th, 2007, 04:08 AM
Vaidisova.

:lol: :tape:

btw, even if Vaidisova was good enough to beat Sharapova at USO, she hasn't played since Wimbledon, so I doubt that will happen.

mboyle
Aug 27th, 2007, 04:11 AM
Sharapova is #5 in 2007 points, but not that far ahead of Anna, who is #7.
A so-so fall and Sharapova will be around #7.

Incorrect. The ranking includes only 17 tournaments. Maria's points per tournament place her safely within the top 4. Sorry.

In The Zone
Aug 27th, 2007, 04:12 AM
Incorrect. The ranking includes only 17 tournaments. Maria's points per tournament place her safely within the top 4. Sorry.

He is talking about the Race. Clearly indicated by his 2007 point total statement.

ZeroSOFInfinity
Aug 27th, 2007, 04:13 AM
Out early? TO WHO? She has a breeze to the QF.

3r - Agnieszka Radwanska or Emelie Loit

In The Zone
Aug 27th, 2007, 04:17 AM
3r - Agnieszka Radwanska or Emelie Loit

Sharapova has been bad .. but only to fellow elite. Not to the middle of the pack. Sharapova is into the QF, easily.

ZeroSOFInfinity
Aug 27th, 2007, 04:21 AM
^^^
You'll never know...

heytennis
Aug 27th, 2007, 04:35 AM
:lol: :tape:

btw, even if Vaidisova was good enough to beat Sharapova at USO, she hasn't played since Wimbledon, so I doubt that will happen.

Vaidisova is incredibly talented. If she gets through her first three matches, I'm sure she will very hard for Maria. Everyone knows that Vaidisova would easily be top 5 if she was less injured/sick this year.

Drake1980
Aug 27th, 2007, 04:48 AM
Come on Jeca. You deserve number 2!!

Tennisstar86
Aug 27th, 2007, 04:56 AM
Vaidisova is incredibly talented. If she gets through her first three matches, I'm sure she will very hard for Maria. Everyone knows that Vaidisova would easily be top 5 if she was less injured/sick this year.

Yeah. Vaidisova will be tough for Maria... she doesnt play with any fear from what ive seen. She does however choke... i have no doubt that she'll get to a posistion to possibly win the match... but she might choke like she did at Wimbleodn....

I also agree the race is between Kuznetsova and Sharapova.... I think Venus will make it to the semi's therefore knocking out both Ana and JElena so all theoretically Sharapova needs to do is make it to the semi's and beat kuznetsova if shes there to hold her spot.... That being said i have a feeling both Sharapoba and Henin will lose early.....Has Kuznetsova really done much to become the number 2 player? Is it sad that the people vying for the number 2 spot have each barely won their first 1rst titles of the year in august?

AcesHigh
Aug 27th, 2007, 05:03 AM
Vaidisova is incredibly talented. If she gets through her first three matches, I'm sure she will very hard for Maria. Everyone knows that Vaidisova would easily be top 5 if she was less injured/sick this year.

:haha: i'd like to see this "everyone" you speak of agree with you. Even healthy, there is no way Vaidisova is better than Jankovic, Ivanovic, Henin, Sharapova or even Kuznetsova.

Yes, Vaidisova is talented and may even be a future #1, but she's still clearly behind Sharapova in both talent and mental strength. She only has two wins over top 10 players this year I believe..and neither were against top-10 quality opponents(Dementieva, Mauresmo).

Tennisstar86
Aug 27th, 2007, 06:20 PM
:haha: i'd like to see this "everyone" you speak of agree with you. Even healthy, there is no way Vaidisova is better than Jankovic, Ivanovic, Henin, Sharapova or even Kuznetsova.

Yes, Vaidisova is talented and may even be a future #1, but she's still clearly behind Sharapova in both talent and mental strength. She only has two wins over top 10 players this year I believe..and neither were against top-10 quality opponents(Dementieva, Mauresmo).

true. except Sharapova only has 3 wins against top ten players..... of which were not playing top ten. (Kim "I wanna have a baby and dont care abotu tennis" CLijsters, and then Ana "Im sharapova's *****" chakvedatzske)

sfselesfan
Aug 27th, 2007, 06:23 PM
Kuznetsova and Sharapova will likely play for the #2 spot in the semis.

SF

Hashim.
Aug 27th, 2007, 06:25 PM
hmm interesting..

Expat
Aug 27th, 2007, 06:25 PM
no 2 maria
no 3 jelena
no 4 kuznetskova
heres my thinking venus beats ivanovic and loses to jelena

sfselesfan
Aug 27th, 2007, 06:27 PM
heres my thinking venus beats ivanovic and loses to jelena

Did you see Jelena's match today? :help:

She needs to step it up.

SF

DA FOREHAND
Aug 27th, 2007, 06:29 PM
Vaidisova is incredibly talented. If she gets through her first three matches, I'm sure she will very hard for Maria. Everyone knows that Vaidisova would easily be top 5 if she was less injured/sick this year.

Incredibly talented? REALLY?

Where is the fruit of that incredible talent?

Yes she has a good game and could be a top ten player, but it may be a a lil early to call her incredibly talented. That's like saying Nicole Vaidisova is Unstoppable!:tape:

Bruno71
Aug 27th, 2007, 07:19 PM
Did you see Jelena's match today? :help:

She needs to step it up.

SF

If Venus played JJ today, JJ would have been lucky to get a game off her. I do not think, should they meet, that Venus will lose that matchup at this point.

terjw
Aug 27th, 2007, 07:31 PM
It'll likely be Maria #2, Sveta #3, JJ #4 after the US Open. Sveta really benefitted from the Pilot Pen "Classic" win and both Maria & Sveta have the much easier draw. I don't think Sveta is immune from an early upset though, even with the easier draw...should be interesting to see.

I'm also pretty sure we'll see Maria #2 after the USO. But I think (or is it hope?) that JJ ends up above Sveta. Mind you - although I'm a fan of JJ - I'm not really that bothered about her being #2 or even losing #3 unless she actually won the USO. I just want to see her do really well in the slams and the YEC. Then the ranking will follow.

Bruno71
Aug 27th, 2007, 07:35 PM
I'm also pretty sure we'll see Maria #2 after the USO. But I think (or is it hope?) that JJ ends up above Sveta. Mind you - although I'm a fan of JJ - I'm not really that bothered about her being #2 or even losing #3 unless she actually won the USO. I just want to see her do really well in the slams and the YEC. Then the ranking will follow.

It's the draw though. Let's say JJ loses to Ana/Venus in the QF's (and she could very well lose to Lena in the 16)...Sveta has a fairly clear path to the semis, with only maybe Petrova or an upstart like Szavay standing in the way in the quarters. She has a better shot of going a round further. If JJ can raise her game and make the semis, she'll likely retain #3.

DAVAJ MKirilenko
Aug 27th, 2007, 07:35 PM
Yep. If Ana is a finalist while the other 3 disappear in the first 3 rounds, Ana can be # 2. In order for Ana to get to # 2, a championship is most likely in order and then, Maria would need to lose VERY early. So it's very unlikely.

VERY early?? If Maria will be knocked out in the SF and Ana wins the US Open, then Ana is 2nd no matter what the other results will be.

With other words. If Ana wins it and don't play Maria in the final then she's number 2!

terjw
Aug 27th, 2007, 07:39 PM
Did you see Jelena's match today? :help:

She needs to step it up.

SF

Yes I saw the match. She did enough to win. That's all that matters. I never pay any attention to how players the top players play there early matches. Or at least make predictions based on the 1st round match. It hardly ever happens that players play blindingly well every round. Take for example how Venus played at Wimbledon.

terjw
Aug 27th, 2007, 07:45 PM
It's the draw though. Let's say JJ loses to Ana/Venus in the QF's (and she could very well lose to Lena in the 16)...Sveta has a fairly clear path to the semis, with only maybe Petrova or an upstart like Szavay standing in the way in the quarters. She has a better shot of going a round further. If JJ can raise her game and make the semis, she'll likely retain #3.

Yeah - I know. I actually knew what you had in mind. But I know you are a bit of a pessimist when it comes to JJ ;) . So I'm just being a bit more of an optimist to balance it up - and that is even after watching Jelena's match.

Mind you I'm never such an optimist during a live match.

Expat
Aug 27th, 2007, 07:48 PM
Did you see Jelena's match today? :help:

She needs to step it up.

SF
you wouldnt say that if u saw venus at wimbledon 1st round

Bruno71
Aug 27th, 2007, 07:49 PM
Yeah - I know. I actually knew what you had in mind. But I know you are a bit of a pessimist when it comes to JJ ;) . So I'm just being a bit more of an optimist to balance it up - and that is even after watching Jelena's match.

Mind you I'm never such an optimist during a live match.

:lol: I hear ya.

I am more frustrated about the draw situation than JJ's play though. Her level can only rise after today :)

Dexter
Aug 27th, 2007, 07:58 PM
VERY early?? If Maria will be knocked out in the SF and Ana wins the US Open, then Ana is 2nd no matter what the other results will be.

With other words. If Ana wins it and don't play Maria in the final then she's number 2!Sounds like a good plan to me. :cool:
Ajde!

sfselesfan
Aug 27th, 2007, 08:23 PM
you wouldnt say that if u saw venus at wimbledon 1st round

Yes I did say that. Don't be in denial. Jelena certainly has the game to beat Venus, as she's proven. However, she was nowhere near that level today. I didn't say that Jelena was going to lose to Venus, I just said that she has to step it up if she's going to stay competitive at the USO. If anyone disagrees that that statement then they clearly (1) didn't read what I said or (2) didn't watch her match today.

SF

Tennisstar86
Aug 27th, 2007, 08:30 PM
you wouldnt say that if u saw venus at wimbledon 1st round

Last time i checked JJ was not VEnus williams..... so until she proves she can find her game mid tourny... this statement has no merit.