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~Kiera~
Aug 1st, 2007, 11:21 PM
A new thread so some of us can stop clogging up the other one ;)

~Kiera~
Aug 1st, 2007, 11:24 PM
http://www.theherald.co.uk/misc/print.php?artid=1589595

Murray parts with Butorac after poor run of results

Jamie Murray showed a flash of both ambition and ruthlessness yesterday by splitting from his doubles partner, Eric Butorac.

The 21-year-old from Dunblane will play his last tournament with the American at the US Open, which starts on August 27, having decided that his promising career would be better served with a different partner.

"I was ready to move on," said Murray, who won three ATP Tour titles this year with Butorac before dissolving a partnership which currently stands at No.13 in the world team rankings.

"I initiated it because I wasn't really feeling it anymore and I thought it was best for me to try and find somebody else to play with."

Despite the success of team dubbed Booty and Stretch', a poor run of results since Wimbledon, where Murray showed his individual talent by winning the mixed doubles title with Jelena Jankovic, compounded growing problems on court.

"We haven't fallen out or anything like that," said Murray. "If it wasn't for Eric I wouldn't have moved up to the ranking I have and I probably wouldn't have three titles to my name this year, so there is a lot to be thankful for. It's just one of those things."

Finding a new partner mid-season could be difficult and Murray may have to wait until the end of the year, when existing teams are more likely to break-up and when it will be easier to find a partner accomplished enough to help him improve his doubles game and ranking. Roland Garros champions Mark Knowles and Daniel Nestor are planning to split up later this year and either man would fit the bill perfectly.

"If I had the opportunity to be on the court with guys like that who have got to No.1 in the world and won grand slam titles then I'd obviously love to do that," said Murray.

The Scot's immediate problem is finding a partner for the swing of tournaments leading into the US Open, starting with next week's Canadian Masters and including the Cincinnati Masters and the Pilot Pen in New Haven. His brother, Andy, is scheduled to play all three events and might oblige, especially since he will be returning from a lay-off of nearly three months with a wrist injury and could do with as much time on court as his wrist can handle. Beyond that, Jamie Murray will look for other temporary solutions until the right long-term partner becomes available.

Meanwhile, Tim Henman's miserable year continued as he failed recapture his glory days at the Legg Mason Tennis Classic in Washington, going down to John Isner. The American wild card ousted him 4-6, 6-4, 7-6 (7-4) in the first round of the £300,000 hardcourt event.

Henman defeated Fernando Gonzalez to win the event in 2003, the last year he hoisted a championship trophy. He also won in Paris later that year but has appeared in just two finals since, losing on both occasions to the world No.1, Roger Federer.

Henman, 32, put up a fight before finally falling to the 22-year-old, who is ranked 419th in the world. Trailing 5-4 in the third set, Henman faced match point at 15-40 but reeled off four consecutive points to remain in the tie.

Paisley's Elena Baltacha is out of the women's tournament after losing to the second seed. Olga Savchuk. The Scot won the first set 6-3 but lost the next two by the same scoreline.

~Kiera~
Aug 1st, 2007, 11:34 PM
Seems like Wimbledon really did create more problems for them as a team.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/tennis/article2182999.ece

Murray on the lookout for new partner after break-up
Katie Scott and Simon Cambers

Booty and Stretch are no longer. Jamie Murray and Eric Butorac announced their decision yesterday to end their short but sweet relationship after the US Open, which begins in 3½ weeks. It marks the end of a doubles partnership that lasted a little more than a year and won ATP titles in San Jose, Memphis and Nottingham.

A statement, which was put up on their website by Butorac without the knowledge of Murray, read: “Booty and Stretch will be no more after the US Open. We will be heading our separate ways.”

Murray said last night: “I just think we weren’t really improving and I thought it was the time to move on. I just want to keep improving and moving up the rankings.

“It’s not like we started falling out or anything but a doubles partnership is, to an extent, like a relationship and you see each other every day and it’s tough. That can kind of limit the lifespan of a partnership.”

A source close to the pair suggested that the problems began during a barren clay-court season, when a succession of four first-round defeats dented their confidence, but it was during Wimbledon, where they suffered a disappointing third-round exit, that the cracks started to appear.

Butorac, who insisted that he was not jealous of the relationship that was blossoming between Murray and Jelena Jankovic - with whom the Scot won the mixed doubles title at Wimbledon - was unimpressed by the manner of their exit from the men’s doubles. Usually wearing the widest smile in the locker-room, the American slumped into his chair at the postmatch press conference and barely uttered a word.

His parents had travelled from Minnesota to spend the fortnight with their son, so, instead of spending time with Murray, who was staying with Jamie Delgado and enjoying evenings out with the former Davis Cup player, Booty and Stretch rarely spent time together during the fortnight - it did not help that they had a five-day hiatus between their second and third-round matches because of rain delays.

Butorac flew to Newport, Rhode Island, where he teamed up with Ross Hutchins, while Murray was left to introduce romance to the Centre Court crowd. The duo were reunited in Los Angeles, Indianapolis and at the Legg Mason Tennis Classic in Washington this week. They lost to Scott Lipsky and Daniel Martin, the American pairing, on all three occasions, and it had become clear that the spark had gone.

“True champions make these kinds of decisions when they are at the top of the game rather than the bottom,” Patricio Apey, Murray’s agent, said. “They’ve had some good, open discussions and decided it was best to go on without each other.”

Neither is believed to have decided upon their next partner and, unfortunately for the Great Britain Davis Cup team, Murray is unlikely to team up with a compatriot such as James Auckland, the British No 2 doubles player.

“I think I’ll be able to find someone for next year,” Murray said. “I’d like to find someone [soon], but if I have to chop and change for the rest of this year, that’s what I will do. There are a few guys I have thought about, but I haven’t asked anyone and nothing has been done.”

Apey suggested yesterday that the Scot would be targeting a top name. “It is in the Murray genes to always strive for the best,” he said. “When Andy split with his coach, Mark Petchey, he put the world’s best coaches on the list of possible replacements and I see the same trait in Jamie. He has a lot of fire in his belly and he strives for the very best. Other players know they will have a great future if they link up with Jamie.”

So what will happen to the Booty and Stretch brand? Will the shirts be ripped up and their website shut down? “It will be adapted. Booty and someone and Stretch and someone,” Apey said.

Jamie’s brother, Andy, has accepted a wild card into the Pilot Pen tournament in New Haven, Connecticut.

Tennis-Chick
Aug 1st, 2007, 11:45 PM
OK I am a HUGE fan of Booty and Stretch, and I never heard anything about these cracks in the clay season and at Wimbledon :sad: I remember them talking on the BBC and they seemed OK, laughing and joking away with Sue!! :(:(

I sort of have a feeling Judy is behind all this :rolleyes: I wish them both well, and will still support both of them, but if they play each other with their new partners, I will be cheering for Booty :cool:

Cilla
Aug 2nd, 2007, 12:15 AM
I remember them talking on the BBC and they seemed OK, laughing and joking away with Sue!! :(:(

Yeah, and at Queens as well. It just shows no-one knows what goes on behind closed doors.

schorsch
Aug 2nd, 2007, 12:28 AM
he should have first looked for a new partner and then split with eric :haha: j/k. but now who's he gonna team up for the rest of the year -_- stupid. i hope he can get one of those top guys.

RFS
Aug 2nd, 2007, 07:55 AM
Over on another forum - seems to have been a bit of a personality clash between Booty and Stretch - and it seems to hint that the issue was with JM, which surprises me as he seemed to be quite relaxed and even Mama Murray has said that he's the calm, sensitive one of the 2 brothers.
http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?forumID=61841&p=3&topicID=12891674&commentPage=1

A lot of debate on there too about the suitability of Henman.

A lot of confusion also seems to be reigning on whether Booty and Stretch are going to play the Masters in the run up to the Open, or just the USO...

Plot... thickeney... I think so!

Just Do It
Aug 2nd, 2007, 09:54 AM
New thread just for them :haha: :yeah:

RFS
Aug 2nd, 2007, 10:34 AM
let's just hope that they now DO hook up at the USO ... of course to play tennis!
Otherwise our Jamie is gonna have a quiet couple of weeks.. maybe standing in the ... well .. stands (!) cheering on ickle bro, or potential squeeze (SUCH a romantic!)

RFS
Aug 2nd, 2007, 11:50 AM
Seems like Wimbledon really did create more problems for them as a team.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/tennis/article2182999.ece

I have to say ... having another read... and tallying it with stuff on the B&S.com site - I did wonder at the time whether Booty was a little miffed at the whole Mixed Troubles element of this year's Wimby... his blog really kinda layed into Moriaru for pulling out in a rain break, when JJ gamely continued after a disappointing exit to Bartoli. And in some other link (soz, I forget which now), JM says that perhaps their doubles partnership was more like a relationship that had hit a bit of a rocky patch... and they say three's a crowd!

I thought it was particularly telling that he missed JJ and in the Hello article, he says it's like his best friend had disappeared. That struck me as strange given that he's been partnered with Booty for a while.

Interesting follow up on the bt.net link from someone querying work ethics... was one a worker and the other a partyer? I'm also a tad troubled about Booty's comments of hinting at the issue of how to treat people? JM never seemed to come across as the abrasive type... but I suppose if they covered up a lot for the cameras over the past year...:confused:

predrag
Aug 2nd, 2007, 12:23 PM
he should have first looked for a new partner and then split with eric :haha: j/k. but now who's he gonna team up for the rest of the year -_- stupid. i hope he can get one of those top guys.

I'm sure Jamie knows what he's doing and has abundance of options,
but Butorac is the first one to announce the new partner.

8/2 - Thanks for the outpouring of notes. I have so many people to thank, especially over in the UK for supporting me and adopting me as a Brit!, you guys were truly great to me....and since I feel so welcome, I've already decided to keep it rolling and play Beijing with Ross Hutchins the week after the Open. Booty and Hutch? Hmm....maybe that has a little ring to it! Thanks again.

http://www.bootyandstretch.com/

~Kiera~
Aug 2nd, 2007, 12:52 PM
I have to say ... having another read... and tallying it with stuff on the B&S.com site - I did wonder at the time whether Booty was a little miffed at the whole Mixed Troubles element of this year's Wimby... his blog really kinda layed into Moriaru for pulling out in a rain break, when JJ gamely continued after a disappointing exit to Bartoli. And in some other link (soz, I forget which now), JM says that perhaps their doubles partnership was more like a relationship that had hit a bit of a rocky patch... and they say three's a crowd!

I thought it was particularly telling that he missed JJ and in the Hello article, he says it's like his best friend had disappeared. That struck me as strange given that he's been partnered with Booty for a while.

Interesting follow up on the bt.net link from someone querying work ethics... was one a worker and the other a partyer? I'm also a tad troubled about Booty's comments of hinting at the issue of how to treat people? JM never seemed to come across as the abrasive type... but I suppose if they covered up a lot for the cameras over the past year...:confused:

I guess it's human nature to be at least slightly jealous of all the attention Jamie and Jelena received. Jamie and Eric received a fair amount of press themselves, but it was nothing compared to the hoopla caused by the budding "romance". Eric was pretty much left waiting around for the rest of Wimbledon and then into the next week when, instead of preparing for the hardcourt season, Jamie was fulfilling all those press obligations over here.

I'm sceptical about the thing on bt.net. Not that I don't believe tensions were strained, but it comes from a first time poster who joined that day solely to share that piece of information. Would Eric really just randomly come out with such things? If so, it's really not advisable in the tennis world. Tennis players get pretty upset when other players talk about them so openly and "dish the dirt".

RFS
Aug 2nd, 2007, 01:57 PM
I'm sceptical about the thing on bt.net. Not that I don't believe tensions were strained, but it comes from a first time poster who joined that day solely to share that piece of information. Would Eric really just randomly come out with such things? If so, it's really not advisable in the tennis world. Tennis players get pretty upset when other players talk about them so openly and "dish the dirt".

Ah good pointski... I hadn't looked at it like that!

I just hope it doesn't have an adverse effect on JM's chances of landing a good partner to take him further... and of course for another shot at a GS title in the Mixed.
I know people say that there's no such thing as bad publicity... but conversely... mud sticks.

And ultimately we're all rooting for the budding romance to have a chance!

RFS
Aug 2nd, 2007, 03:50 PM
Ooooh me again... I did NOT realise that the statement had been put up without Jamie knowing.. is that really true or newspaper spin?

~Kiera~
Aug 2nd, 2007, 07:06 PM
Ooooh me again... I did NOT realise that the statement had been put up without Jamie knowing.. is that really true or newspaper spin?

We don't have a quote from Jamie, so who knows at this point? It'd be strange though if Eric didn't mention that he was going to tell others about the split, especially since he's the one who does all the site updates and regular blogs.

predrag
Aug 2nd, 2007, 07:41 PM
Nice biography feature about Murrays. Puts things
back in perspective. It's 12 months old. And very long.

Crazy tennis parents, sibling rivalry and how to be mentor, coach and mother
Simon Hattenstone
Saturday August 12, 2006

Yes, Judy Murray says, there are plenty of crazy tennis parents. "We do have a reputation for having more than our fair share, especially fathers," she says. And she lists the top crazies: "Oh, Dokic's dad is definitely up there [he is reported to have threatened to drop a nuclear bomb on Sydney after his daughter Jelena decided to play as an Australian], Mary Pierce's dad is quite crazy [he once shouted, 'Go on, Mary, kill the bitch!' at one of Pierce's opponents]. But the worst one is the French one who was poisoning the drinks bottles of his kid's opponents. And he got jailed for eight years ..." She laughs, though she knows she shouldn't, "... because one of them died."

Murray, 46, has just come off court at Eastbourne, where she is playing for North of Scotland Veterans with her friends Judy, Judy and Lindsay. Doesn't it get confusing having three Judys in the team? "Yeah, yours Judy!" says another of the Judys. Who's the best player? "Judy!" answers the third Judy.

Murray and I retire to the club lounge. She has just won her doubles match and is chuffed. "Andy is playing in Washington and Jamie is playing in Vancouver so I said I'd text my results, and Andy went: 'Why? Like we're bothered!'"

Murray is starting a website for parents of gifted tennis players. The thing is, she says, so many parents haven't got a clue how to cope. "It is the parent who has to book the lessons, pay for them, enter competitions for the kids, take them there, sit and watch them, and deal with the winning and losing. Parents are just as important as coaches, if not more so."

She should know. Murray coached both her sons. At 10, Jamie, the eldest, was regarded as one of the three top players of his age in Europe. At 12, Andy won the Orange Bowl, the unofficial world under-12 championship. Now Andy, 19, is Britain's number one, while, after falling away, Jamie, 20, is re-establishing himself as a doubles player.

Was Murray ever a mad tennis mum? "I don't think so. Honestly. You do see it though ..."

What helped, she says, was the fact that there were two prodigies, and that she was the national Scottish tennis coach. "We had quite a big group of kids, of which Andy and Jamie were two.

"If it's just you travelling with your child, it's quite tough for the child, particularly if it's not gone all that well. With us, if they won it was fine, and if they lost it was, like, bad luck, the others are playing football round the corner, go and join them."

According to her own definition, Murray is a ripe candidate for the mad mums' club. She was Scottish champion, tried to make a go of it professionally, gave up after a few months, after having her passport nicked while competing in Barcelona, and returned to Scotland to do a French and business studies degree at the University of Edinburgh. "I'd lost so much weight my dad virtually made the decision for me. I was about seven stone, and he said, 'You're not enjoying it are you?'"

She wasn't surprised when her children showed ability. Everybody was good at sport in the family - her dad, an optician, had played football for Hibs, her brother became a golf pro. "We've got a picture of Andy and Jamie with rackets in the garden at two and three. They had little bats and sponge balls that they smacked around the living room till marks were all over the windows and wallpaper. Then we got a swing ball for the garden. Andy and Jamie were just incredibly fast at batting it back and forward. I think that has a lot to do with Andy being good at returning serve."

Their father, Murray's ex-husband, was not into tennis. Did it have an impact on their relationship when she started ferrying the boys around the country? "Yeah..." she says, pausing to think it through, as if for the first time. "Maybe it did a bit. I was away a lot, and you're coaching till late in the evening. Your domestic life gets hit for six."

Research shows that successful sportspeople are often second children, and Murray is convinced that Andy would not have achieved what he has without having Jamie to aspire to and play against. Andy first beat Jamie when he was 11. It proved a painful experience - in every sense. "I had a minibus full of kids and it was late at night and I was knackered. They started fighting in the back seat. Andy was going on and on at Jamie about beating him. Andy was in the seat behind, and had his hand over the seat, and Jamie turned round and smashed his hand with his fist. I had to stop the bus, clean the hand, it was a real gouge, just below the nail. We had to take him to the doctor's next morning to get an injection because it had gone all pusy, and he ended up losing the nail, and he's still got a dent there. And he still remembers why he got that."

The two boys are such different characters, she says, both on and off the court. While Andy is the terrier chasing every lost cause from the back of the court, Jamie is the more naturally gifted server and volleyer. And while Andy has inherited her competitive streak, Jamie is more laid back. "Jamie is quieter, he's more sensitive than Andy, he's the good-looking one. He's the one who all my mum's friends fawn over. They love him. 'Oh, he's so polite, he's so nice.' They don't say that about Andy! Hahahaha! They never see him actually. He's never home now."

Until the mid-90s few people had heard of their home town, Dunblane. When Andy and Jamie were eight and nine, a gunman ran amok in their local primary school, killing 16 children and one teacher. "I think they were too young to understand really what happened," Murray says. But she sounds as if she's talking more in hope than from conviction.

Did they lose friends? "Andy's best friend lost his little brother. We don't really talk about it ... You would never, ever have imagined anything like that could happen in your little town. Never. It was deserted for weeks. Everybody stayed in their houses ..." she trails off.

When Jamie was 12, he left home to join a tennis academy in Cambridge. He was desperate to go, but he hated it. "He was on the phone every night and when you said goodbye you could tell he was crying. It was horrific. I'm a really strong believer in not sending kids away from home if possible. They will have to leave at some point because we haven't got the climate and the clay courts but they have to be ready to go."

Eventually, she told Jamie he had to come home, just as her own father had told her. For two years, Jamie didn't touch a tennis racket.

Did she demand too much of the kids? "I don't think I ever pushed them too hard because it was always what they wanted." If anything, she says, she wasn't tough enough. "Andy went away at 15, but he needed to go a bit before that. He wasn't interested in leaving, and I wouldn't have pushed him after what happened to Jamie, no way."

The turning point came after Andy chatted with Rafa Nadal when playing racketball. "He came on the phone and said, 'D'you know what? Rafa trains with Carlos Moya [who had recently been world number 1]. Who have I got to play with? You and my brother!' I was on the phone thinking 'great' because it was all coming from him, and he went: 'I wanna go and train in Spain!'"

Jamie stayed on at school and completed his highers, but Andy left without taking exams. Does that worry her? "No, you've got to seize the chance when you've got it."

Recently, the boys have reached another turning point. As Andy has climbed up the rankings, Jamie has focused on a career in doubles. Murray has done her sums and reckons that while he will never earn what Andy does, if he can become a top-50 world-ranking doubles player, he could make a nice enough living - possibly £63,000 a year before expenses.

A couple of weeks ago Jamie reached his first ATP doubles final. It was a great moment for all of them. "Andy was texting me at three in the morning, saying '2-1 down in the tie-break, 6-5 down, come on Tight'. They call each other Tight - I have no idea why. And then it was, '9-9, just saved a match point, I'm almost in tears'. And I'm lying in my bed going, 'Come on Jamie, come on Jamie, you can do it,' and then the phone rings and I think, 'Oh please let him have won,' and it's Andy and he says, 'He won, he won, Mum, he won, he's in the final.' And for me to hear him be so excited about Jamie's tennis was great."

Has she ever felt confused between her roles as mentor, coach and mother? "Sometimes," she says, but not for much longer. Now Andy has a top coach in Brad Gilbert and Jamie has just started working with one, she is preparing to become pure and simple mum. "If I can get Jamie on the right track, and really enjoying it, then I reckon in a couple of years it will be, 'Right, off you go, bugger off, I've done my bit.'"

Does she have personal ambitions for them as well as professional? "Just now I see them in terms of career because that's what's important to them." She smiles. "Further down the line, yeah, you want them to get married and give me some grandchildren I can teach to play tennis."

RFS
Aug 2nd, 2007, 08:41 PM
We don't have a quote from Jamie, so who knows at this point? It'd be strange though if Eric didn't mention that he was going to tell others about the split, especially since he's the one who does all the site updates and regular blogs.

Also in the cold light of... well... evening...! and after a few Pinot Grigots... Jamie was the one who has gone on record as initiating the split, so after all that it would be a bit surprising if he was "shocked" at the revelation on the webby!

Although it has to be said, post Queens it was mainly a booty-blog.

It does worry me there's nothing in plan for him... let's hope some of the top players recognise his potential - John Lloyd said through Wimbly that he's really showed his mettle coming through demanding matches... for all the fun they had out there they won some notable scalps.

Well - I'm pleasantly chuffed (and pleasantly inebriated) enough to actually "watch" JJ's match on Livescore just now...

Laters gators...

Cilla
Aug 3rd, 2007, 12:24 AM
Jamie is more laid back. "Jamie is quieter, he's more sensitive than Andy, he's the good-looking one. He's the one who all my mum's friends fawn over. They love him. 'Oh, he's so polite, he's so nice.' They don't say that about Andy! Hahahaha!

:lol:

Tennis-Chick
Aug 3rd, 2007, 12:26 AM
We don't have a quote from Jamie, so who knows at this point? It'd be strange though if Eric didn't mention that he was going to tell others about the split, especially since he's the one who does all the site updates and regular blogs.

Well there was quotes from Jamie's agent, so I'm sure he knew. I know ever since Wimbledon, it's just all been Eric.

~Kiera~
Aug 3rd, 2007, 10:11 PM
Thanks, Predrag! Another long article on Judy from mid-June.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/tennis/article1942062.ece

The motherly mind behind the Murrays

It is as much Judy Murray's psychology as her genes that have made her sons, the Murray brothers, the tennis players they are today

Gillian Bowditch

For the next week, Andy Murray's wrist will command the sort of column inches once reserved for David Beckham's metatarsal. But those wanting to learn the secrets of what makes a tennis star would do better to scrutinise his mother. Slight, well-groomed and with a bone structure so fine she can look good in a baseball cap at the age of 46, Judy Murray has single-handedly put Scottish tennis on the map.

The joke among foreign players is that in Britain tennis is not a sport but a fortnight. In Scotland it is barely an afternoon. But all that is changing. Judy has literally given birth to the Scottish game. Her sons — Andy's older brother Jamie is the top-ranked British doubles player — have the advantage of sporting genes passed down to them through the generations.

Roy Erskine, their grandfather, played professional football for Hibernian. He and his wife were also county tennis and badminton players. At Morrison's Academy in Crieff, Judy was the linchpin of the swimming, netball and hockey teams. When she went to Edinburgh University to read French and business studies, she took up volleyball and squash. She is a former Scottish ladies tennis champion, has won 64 Scottish titles and represented Great Britain at the World Student Games. Speak to people who know her and they will tell you nothing much fazes her.

On a tennis circuit so competitive most parents would not just sell their grannies but also trade in granny futures if they thought it would help their proteges reach the giddy heights, she is renowned for good humour and common sense. Judy, whose sons picked up tennis rackets while they were still in nappies, tells an anecdote about a player whose parents used to kick their dog whenever an opponent's first serve went out. The dog duly began to bark, increasing the chances of a double fault.

She could be forgiven a few well-aimed boots at the family mutt. Last week Andy reached a ranking of ninth in the world, but with just eight days to go to the start of Wimbledon, the wrist injury he sustained in Hamburg last month is threatening to curtail his participation in the tournament.

Match-fit, the Scot who turned 20 in May could be expected to give British tennis fans their most thrilling Wimbledon since the glory days of three-times champion Fred Perry in the 1930s. In the past six months he has been working with Brad Gilbert, the £500,000-a-year coach who took Andre Agassi to six grand slam wins. This year was meant to be Andy's year. There is much talk of jinxes. His mother, however, is sanguine. "He's doing everything he can," she says of his Wimbledon preparation. "It's just one of those things. Even if he is able to play he'd be going into it with no match practice behind him, which would be tough. But he has to be careful. "It's not just the next fortnight — it's the long term. He's had little injuries before where he's gone back too early because he thinks he's invincible, but he's learnt from that. He won't take any chances."

It is as much their mother's psychology as her genes that have made the Murray brothers the players they are today. Judy is known for her decency. Andy says that as a parent she is more lenient than his father and credits his dad — who separated from his mother when Andy was nine years old — with toughening him up. The only time she gets ruffled during the interview is when I ask about her son's remarks on her divorce. In a recent interview, Andy said he was caught in the middle of his rowing parents.

"I would get really upset. One of the things I would have loved to have was a family that worked better together, although I love my mother and father to bits," he said. "It was one of those things that came up in an interview, questions that shouldn't have been asked," she says. "I don't want to comment on it." She sounds hurt. It's clear she adores her boys and any criticism from them, however oblique, stings. She is not beyond serving it straight down the line to them, though, when she has to.

"This time last year Jamie was doing okay on the challenger circuit in doubles, but was doing nothing in singles," she says. "I was paying out, paying out, paying out all the time. I had to say that I couldn't keep funding him to play at that level. In the previous 14 months I had spent £28,000 on his tennis. I told him he wasn't going to make it to the top in singles and he wouldn't make it to the top in doubles unless we found him a world-class coach."

It must have been a tough conversation for her. "Not when you are nearly bankrupt," she laughs. While supporting Andy at an event in Monte Carlo, Judy came across Louis Cayer, a French-Canadian coach and former head of Canadian tennis. "I sat and watched him for about two hours, then I explained to him about Jamie," she says. Within seven weeks of meeting Cayer, Jamie made the final of an ATP (Association of Tennis Professionals) event for the first time. In February he and his American doubles partner, Eric Butorac, won the finals of the SAP Open in San Jose, California. The Lawn Tennis Association is now helping with Jamie's costs.

"It's a massive relief," she says. "Individual sports are incredibly expensive to finance. If I hadn't played to a decent level or been involved in coaching there is no way I could have afforded to give the boys the level of coaching they had when they were young. "When you get to the point where you are competing down south, it is very expensive." Her younger son may still look to her for emotional support, but no longer relies on her financially. A newcomer this year to The Sunday Times Rich List, he is ranked 93rd equal in the under-30s league with £5m. He has taken almost £1m in winnings since 2005 and has lucrative sponsorship deals with The Royal Bank of Scotland, Tag Heuer watches, Head rackets and Highland Spring.

The brothers are hugely supportive of each other, but it must be difficult for Jamie — for years the superior player — to watch his younger brother's earnings soar.

"While Andy is at a point where he is reaping the rewards, Jamie — even though he is doing really well as a doubles player — is still to make money from the sport," says Judy. "The start of this year, when he won three tournaments in a row, is the first time he's ever made money. To make a decent living as a doubles player he will have to be in the top 10 in the world. But it's great to see both of them up towards the top of the game and playing well. "For me it's been about giving them opportunities. It's up to them to take them."

Judy, too, is seizing opportunities as they arise. She is in demand as a commentator, writes newspaper articles, runs the tennis parents' website and was recently appointed the LTA's talent and performance manager for Scotland. She can sniff out talent like a pig can sniff out truffles. She cites Ross Wilson and Vincent Gillespie as two young Scots to watch.

Judy became the Scottish national coach when Andy was eight, but left 10 years later in frustration. "I found it difficult to convince the board of Tennis Scotland to invest in players," she says. "Nobody believed they could make it. Then, when Andy won the Junior US Open, everybody was falling over themselves. I just thought: 'Where were you when we needed the support on the way up?' "Now, whenever I meet any of them and they are gushing over Andy's achievements, I want to say: 'You never believed in me.' We were able to make it happen for our boys, but many parents just wouldn't be able to raise that kind of money."

Her ambition now is to establish a world-class tennis academy in Scotland. It's a project she is working on with Leon Smith, Andy's former coach. "This is a huge opportunity to build the sport in Scotland," she says of her sons' domination of the British game. "There are still only 30 courts and six indoor centres in Scotland that are open to the public. They are expensive, up to £16 an hour, and there are places where you can't play all year round."

She has the backing of the LTA and has approached a number of Scottish local authorities to find a venue. Ideally she'd like to site it in Bridge of Allan on land owned by Graham's Dairies, but there may be planning problems. Stirling council, which is developing a sports village, recently put a proposal together for her to build it there. "It has to be somewhere right in the centre of the country," she says. "Stirling University has a fantastic sport science department. That would be our ideal location, but it's not just about finding the right place. We need the backing too."

If she pulls it off, the Judy Murray Tennis Academy would take pupils from all over Britain. "We've got the drive and the will to do it," she says. "We haven't spoken to the SNP government yet, but once we've got an idea of sites and costs we'll start approaching funding partners. We're 18 months to two years away from it now. We'd like to do it before the Olympics come to London, and if Scotland gets the Commonwealth Games that would be another boost."

Such an academy would preclude the need for future tennis champions to train abroad, as her sons had to do, with disastrous consequences for Jamie, who was homesick. His singles game fell apart while he was away and has never really recovered. It must have taken nerves of steel to wave her younger son off a couple of years later.

"Andy's move to Barcelona was his decision," she says. "I knew for about a year before that he had to leave to progress, but because Jamie had gone away and been unhappy, Andy was against leaving home. Fortunately, when he was 15 he went to play in the under-16 age group and lost a couple of matches to boys he had beaten 12 months previously. He came back from one of these events furious that these boys had opportunities he didn't have. I was absolutely delighted, but it had to come from him."

It's a supreme irony that tennis has the most languid image of any sport. At a professional level, though, the reality is ruthless. If you haven't shown star quality by the age of 10 you might as well forget it. "Research shows that you need 10,000 hours and 10 years if you're going to produce a champion in any sport," she says. "Every sport is looking for the same athletic, co-

ordinated children in the six-to-nine age group. To date, tennis hasn't done a good enough job of going out and finding them. It has become an early specialisation sport and the windows for developing co-ordination are between the ages of eight and 12."

Personality matters too. "You're looking for sparky, lively kids," she says. "It's about the 'I want to win mentality' as opposed to the 'I don't want to lose mentality'." She despairs about the level of sport in primary schools. "Over a number of years, PE in primary schools has diminished, so all the basic running, jumping and throwing skills are now not being taught." The real secret of Judy's success as a star maker is not her training regime or technique, but her understanding of what makes children tick.

"I'm very aware with the young kids that it is a long haul," she says. "It's important they have fun the whole way through. When I was coaching we'd all travel to tournaments in a bus and create an atmosphere of enthusiasm and excitement. As a patriotic Scot I'd stick the flag in the back of the minibus before we set off and I'd say to the kids: 'We're off to conquer England.' Afterwards we'd all go tenpin bowling. I think that is why so many of them are still involved in tennis. They need to work hard and be determined, but they also have to be loving it and the lifestyle. "It's about understanding them as people, not just as tennis players."

Ultimately it is this that could give her academy the edge over some of the overseas "tennis star factories". Her success with her sons has been as much about her mothering technique as her coaching technique. "You never know how far they can go," she says. "It was only when Andy won the US Orange Bowl under-12s that I realised he was one of the best in the world. I spoke to the coach of the Czech boy he had beaten in the final. He had coached Jana Novotna and he told me Andy could be a top player. I knew he was good, but the more I spoke to this coach, the more I realised his potential. That's when it became scary. I suddenly wondered, am I doing the right thing and making the right decisions?"

She may find out in the next fortnight. But if Andy gives Wimbledon a body swerve, she won't be too upset. When it comes to tennis, Judy is playing a long game.

downunderfan
Aug 5th, 2007, 06:29 AM
Hmmm, very interesting, Jamie's found some new partners...

www.andymurray.com

Jamie to partner James Blake…

Jamie’s doubles partners for the next fortnight have been confirmed, starting with James Blake at the Masters Series event in Montreal. Best looking dubs pair in the draw, according to Jamie!

Week after, he’s set to team up with Mahesh Bhupathi, who recently played with Tim Henman in Washington, reaching the quarter-finals.

Nice work from Stretch….

Funder
Aug 5th, 2007, 09:05 AM
Best not introduce him to Jelena, Jamie. He's gorgeous!

RFS
Aug 5th, 2007, 10:39 AM
Well it's a relief he's being paired up now... don't know what Blake is like at doubles, but Bhupathi is a good choice.

~Kiera~
Aug 5th, 2007, 11:39 AM
Well it's a relief he's being paired up now... don't know what Blake is like at doubles, but Bhupathi is a good choice.

Yes, it is a good choice. I'm not surprised to see him being partnered with Bhupathi. Hopefully, they'll have a bit of success together.

Cilla
Aug 5th, 2007, 02:00 PM
Bhupathi is a great player :yeah: But, not sure about Blake :bolt:

RFS
Aug 5th, 2007, 08:21 PM
well Blake and Murray (JimJams, as am.com is naming them) are off to a good enough start... going with serve it would seem, so maybe Blake wasn't as bad a choice for this week

predrag
Aug 5th, 2007, 11:07 PM
Gonzalez/Ljubicic def. Blake/Murray 6-7, 6-3, 10-8. :(

A picture of Jamie from Indianapolis, holding a Vince Lombardi
trophy (NFL), just for fun.

http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/6421/jamietrophy4dg7.jpg

~Kiera~
Aug 6th, 2007, 12:24 AM
Thanks, Predrag.

He doesn't seem to have any luck when it comes to tie-breaks.

schorsch
Aug 6th, 2007, 12:29 AM
blake ? could he have teamed up with a worse player?

~Kiera~
Aug 6th, 2007, 01:08 AM
An Email Conversation With Nathan Robertson & Gail Emms (World Mixed Doubles Champions in badminton)

http://sport.independent.co.uk/tennis/article2838594.ece

Do you sometimes wish you were tennis players – like Jamie Murray and Jelena Jankovic?

G: Of course, but then I would have to promise to kiss Nathan after every point we won. I don't think it would have the same effect as it did on Jamie Murray!

:lol:

Cilla
Aug 6th, 2007, 01:27 AM
Sarah, you're too quick :lol: I was just about to post that :lol: I love Nathan & Gail. They are such a cool pair :yeah:

RFS
Aug 6th, 2007, 08:51 AM
Gonzalez/Ljubicic def. Blake/Murray 6-7, 6-3, 10-8. :(
Drat!
I had high hopes for this match as they seemed to have a good start - but then I guess no-one was really sure of Blake's experience in doubles.

Jamie's ranking is in desperate need of a hoik-up (as is Booty's, come to think of it!).

Much as I would really like to see Booty & Stretch connect and go out in a bit of style, I think this run of defeats is really going to dent his confidence.

Leaving it up to Jelena to lift him, maybe?
Really hope she has a good run LA to give her a bit of a lift for the USO... then I think we might see some doubles magic.

Cilla
Aug 6th, 2007, 06:19 PM
On g e t t y, there are 2 pics up of Jamie on the catwalk at the ATP fashion show in Montreal :lol: He doesn't look comfortable at all (& needs a haircut badly!) :lol:

RFS
Aug 6th, 2007, 06:39 PM
Oh Cilla - i see what you mean! The irony is - when he had his hair dead short for Davis Cup, I think, he looked really good!

~Kiera~
Aug 6th, 2007, 07:28 PM
The hair is certainly something :lol:

Is it wise to hold hands with another girl? Someone may be getting another phonecall ;) :lol:

~Kiera~
Aug 6th, 2007, 08:36 PM
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/1723/jamievw2.jpg

Novak's is interesting, too :lol:

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6813/novalal1.jpg

RFS
Aug 6th, 2007, 09:34 PM
I didn't realise that there was a world-wide shortage of barbers/clippers/sheep shearers!
If they ever DID get together, let's just hope that any offspring inherit her straight hair!

Bruno71
Aug 6th, 2007, 09:41 PM
Novak looks just fine to me :hearts:

Cilla
Aug 6th, 2007, 11:15 PM
Typical Nole, exhibitionist :angel: He looks great!

Edit: Some more pics.

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/1044/jamie2jh7.th.jpg (http://img106.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jamie2jh7.jpg)

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/5929/jamie1bl1.th.jpg (http://img106.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jamie1bl1.jpg)

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/4834/nole4ci7.th.jpg (http://img106.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nole4ci7.jpg)

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/3783/nole3mc8.th.jpg (http://img106.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nole3mc8.jpg)

Tennis-Chick
Aug 6th, 2007, 11:27 PM
I didn't realise that there was a world-wide shortage of barbers/clippers/sheep shearers!
If they ever DID get together, let's just hope that any offspring inherit her straight hair!

:rolls:
Nole :inlove:

Sleepwalker64
Aug 7th, 2007, 12:24 AM
:haha: :haha:

NOLEEEEE....Wtf is that????? Is he dancing? :lol: :bolt:
Oh, my God...what's that some John Travolta impressions?:lol:

And unbuttoned shirt hahaha...showing his "love carpet"???

BTW I prefer Jamie with this hair.

Cilla
Aug 7th, 2007, 12:31 AM
And unbuttoned shirt hahaha...showing his "love carpet"???

:spit: :rolls:

Sleepwalker64
Aug 7th, 2007, 01:12 AM
http://www.atpmastersseries.tv/page/Montreal/Features/0,,11444~1086254,00.html

In the right corner you will find a link for a vid of the fashion show

schorsch
Aug 7th, 2007, 02:51 AM
thats so typical for novak. always trying to put on a show :haha: jamie really doesnt feel at home up there :o

~Kiera~
Aug 7th, 2007, 04:04 AM
Thanks, Cilla and Sleepwalker :)

predrag
Aug 7th, 2007, 09:37 AM
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/tennis/article2211091.ece

Butorac hurt by Murray's decision to part company
Simon Cambers in Montreal and Katie Scott
August 7, 2007

Life without Eric Butorac may not be quite as easy as Jamie Murray may have first thought. After the announcement last week that the doubles pair would split up for good at the end of this month’s US Open — a move initiated by the Scot — Murray teamed up with James Blake at the Montreal Masters Series event on Sunday night and they were promptly dumped out in the first round, beaten 6-7, 6-3, 10-8 by Fernando González, of Chile, and Ivan Ljubicic, of Croatia.

Blake, ranked No 9 in singles but a rare sight on a doubles court, was never going to be a long-term solution. Nor will Mahesh Bhupathi, of India, who will partner Murray in Cincinnati next week. “I thought we did OK,” Murray said last night. “It was good fun to be on the court with three top-ten singles players.”

After Cincinnati, Murray said he may play in New Haven, perhaps with his brother, Andy, who returns here today against Robby Ginepri, of the United States, after 12 weeks out with a wrist injury, or even as a partner to Tim Henman, the British No 2, with an eye towards next month’s Davis Cup play-off tie against Croatia at Wimbledon.

“It’s quite a good time as it’s kind of the end of the year,” he said. “If guys are looking for new partners, then there’s a few tournaments to try things out, so I’ll do that with some guys and hopefully I’ll find one that wants to play with me next year.”

Butorac has expressed his surprise at Murray’s decision to “pull the trigger” on their “Booty and Stretch” partnership and said that he would have liked to carry on.

“Jamie said that he’s had two offers to play with some better players,” Butorac, 25, said. “He said he had somebody in the top ten that he wanted to play with, which I guess is a reasonable request. I don’t know who that is, but I was a little surprised that he wanted to split up.

“I would have liked to stick it out a little longer, just because I know that we can play well together. But if he’s not feeling confident with me on the court and feels he would play better with someone else, then there’s no reason why he shouldn’t try that.”

The pair, who have won three titles together this year, will play at Flushing Meadows before going their separate ways, but Butorac has not given up hope of a reunion. “We might realise that what we had together was better than anything else,” he said.

Butorac may have to play second fiddle to Jelena Jankovic for a second successive grand-slam event as Murray and the Serb, who stormed to the mixed doubles title at Wimbledon, are likely to partner each other again. “I still need to ask her if she wants to play but I’d be confident that she would,” Murray said.

downunderfan
Aug 7th, 2007, 11:25 AM
BTW I prefer Jamie with this hair.

He really looks like German soccer player from 1970's, just missing mustache... Very bulky hair but Jelena might like it. ;)

Oh, and Novak, a real show off - we can surely expect many on and off court performances from him.

predrag
Aug 7th, 2007, 11:56 AM
Typical Nole, exhibitionist


Novak Djokovic has become the class clown of the men's tour. The world No. 3 entertained his peers in the Wimbledon locker room with imitations during rain delays, and on Sunday night stole the show at the Rogers Cup gala in Montreal.

It featured a fashion show with close to 20 players, including Djokovic, James Blake, Marcos Baghdatis, Jonas Bjorkman and Mark Knowles.

The players paraded down a runway accompanied by female models, showing off a selection of clothes by designer Yves-Jean Lacasse.

Djokovic wore skin tight pants and an open and wide-collared shirt and did a John Travolta, Saturday Night Fever-like strut to loud catcalls.

But he saved the best for a surprise encore. After the show had ended and many people had begun to leave, he hammed it up, preening down the runway with Italian player Adriano Biasella, both dressed only in buttock-hugging underwear briefs.

To prove that there is camaraderie on the men's tour, even sour-puss David Nalbandian had an animated chat with Djokovic afterward. He had obviously enjoyed the Serb's uninhibited bravado.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070807.wsptpassing6/BNStory/GlobeSports

Sleepwalker64
Aug 7th, 2007, 12:06 PM
But he saved the best for a surprise encore. After the show had ended and many people had begun to leave, he hammed it up, preening down the runway with Italian player Adriano Biasella, both dressed only in buttock-hugging underwear briefs.

To prove that there is camaraderie on the men's tour, even sour-puss David Nalbandian had an animated chat with Djokovic afterward. He had obviously enjoyed the Serb's uninhibited bravado.

Oh, sweet lord..I have to see that.:lol:

Cilla
Aug 7th, 2007, 06:36 PM
Nole :spit: Here's hoping for pics :hehehe:

Jamie is at Andy's match atm, and the commentators were :spit: when they saw his hair :lol: Sam Smith was like, "I wonder how he's going to see the ball?" :rolls:

RFS
Aug 7th, 2007, 09:14 PM
Couldn't figure out how to quote a quote (you'd never think I work for an IT company really!)... but interesting element in the Timesonline quote that Booty feels that Stretch might reconsider. Also interesting that JM had said there was a top ten player interested in playing with him... I think perhaps they're making more of the Blake loss than really the score dictates... looks like the MTB was quite close and with the new rules, it really comes down to pot luck at times...

I still hope that Booty and Stretch really connect one last time to live the dream and go out on a bit of a high at the USO...

~Kiera~
Aug 7th, 2007, 09:53 PM
Couldn't figure out how to quote a quote (you'd never think I work for an IT company really!)

You have to add in your own quote tags to be able to do that, e.g

[*QUOTE=RFS]your words here.

[*quote]copy and paste section of the Times article here[*/quote]

[*/QUOTE]

Just remove the asterisks.

I still hope that Booty and Stretch really connect one last time to live the dream and go out on a bit of a high at the USO...

I can't imagine that it wouldn't feel just a little bit awkward for both of them, especially Eric who is left knowing Jamie didn't think he was basically good enough for him.

You have to feel a bit sorry for him, although I guess this is the nature of competitive sports.

RFS
Aug 8th, 2007, 12:01 PM
I can't imagine that it wouldn't feel just a little bit awkward for both of them, especially Eric who is left knowing Jamie didn't think he was basically good enough for him.

You have to feel a bit sorry for him, although I guess this is the nature of competitive sports.

Well quite! I suppose at the end of the day this is his living we're talking about... and with his ickle bro already in the Rich List for the under 30's...

Wasn't Booty a few places down in the rankings from JM anyway?
It will be interesting to see if this latest quote pans out especially in light of his agent's original comment that nothing was said/in plan... Eric seems to think it was/is?

At the end of the day... Jamie was one half of a successful partnership that complemented each other enough for him to win a GS title at the tender age of 21... so whilst I completely agree that he is not yet the finished article, and there are areas of his game that STILL require JJ to bribe him with a kiss to get the darned return over the net... there's no denying that potential does exist somewhere underneath that fluffy barnet of his...

Let's not forget that JJ went through a dry streak... and that serve... could always improve...

~Kiera~
Aug 8th, 2007, 12:36 PM
Wasn't Booty a few places down in the rankings from JM anyway?

Yes, Jamie's ranked 30th whilst Eric is ranked 40th.

~Kiera~
Aug 8th, 2007, 09:04 PM
http://www.twincities.com/portlet/article/html/fragments/print_article.jsp?articleId=6552293&siteId=569

Booty and Stretch calling it quits

BY TAD REEVE
Pioneer Press
TwinCities.com-Pioneer Press
Article Last Updated:08/05/2007 10:16:38 PM CDT

Booty and Stretch are breaking up.

Eric Butorac of Rochester, Minn., and Jamie Murray of Scotland, who have won three tournaments in 2007 and are ranked No. 13 in the world in men's doubles, are dissolving their partnership after the U.S. Open.

They announced their split on their Web site, bootyandstretch.com, Wednesday.

The pair of big-serving, high-energy left-handers became a bit of a new-wave phenomenon on the Association of Tennis Professionals circuit, gaining popularity by wearing their names on the back of their shirts, high-fiving fans between points and offering an insider's look at life on tour with regular updates on their Web site.

Butorac (Booty), a Gustavus Adolphus graduate, and Murray (Stretch) jumped to the top tier of the men's doubles circuit with early-season victories in Memphis, Tenn., and San Jose, Calif. They won at Nottingham, England, on grass courts the week before Wimbledon, then reached the third round at Wimbledon. But they struggled before and after the grass-court season, and frustration set in.

Murray, a member of the Great Britain Davis Cup team, is ranked 32nd in the world individually in doubles; Butorac is 40th.

The breakup "kind of came about quickly," Butorac said. "On the court, things were going good, but off the court, not quite as good. All through the spring and summer, we weren't quite getting along as good as we'd like.

"I was becoming frustrated with things and annoyed because I thought we should be doing so much better than we were. It gets tricky on the doubles circuit. You rely on that one guy all the time. If your practice habits are different, if you want to do different things during your time off, problems can crop up," he said.

Butorac is spending this week at home in Rochester and is looking for a partner to play with next week at the Masters Series tournament in Cincinnati. He will play with Australian Jordan Kerr at a tournament in New Haven, Conn., the week before the U.S. Open.

"My phone was ringing off the hook last week," Butorac said, with players looking to team up with him. "I've talked to a lot of guys, actually."

Among the frontrunners: Kerr, Todd Perry of Australia and Ross Hutchins of England.

"I need to play with somebody whose ranking is high enough and close enough to mine to get us into the big tournaments, and I want to play with somebody who's been there before and knows what it takes to get there again with me," Butorac said.

As for a new Web site: "The marketing side we can take care of when we get rolling."

predrag
Aug 8th, 2007, 09:34 PM
Butorac is spending this week at home in Rochester and is looking for a partner to play with next week at the Masters Series tournament in Cincinnati.

Jamie is still in Montreal. He was watching his younger brother
today in the company of Brad Gilbert.

And during another match, Verdasco-Gasquet, I've spotted Ricardo
Sanchez playing, what looked like, the role of Fernando's coach.
Sanchez is actually still listed as Alejandro Falla's coach, but could
this be the sign that ties to Colombia's players are getting thin,
and that chances to become full time Jelena's coach are more
realistic?

Sleepwalker64
Aug 8th, 2007, 10:40 PM
What's Butorac background? That last name sound like his roots are from Balkan?

~Kiera~
Aug 8th, 2007, 10:46 PM
What's Butorac background? That last name sound like his roots are from Balkan?

Croatian, I believe.

Sleepwalker64
Aug 8th, 2007, 11:21 PM
Oh..thanks Sarah. So Nestor, Butorac, Dancevic, Bogdanovic...nice bunch..

RFS
Aug 10th, 2007, 09:22 PM
ok - so the wish list for week commencing 13/8...
Jamie wins an opening round with Bhupathi (as I floated on am.com ... Bhu-Mur... Boomer as a combined name!) - hopefully this may be a more fruitful partnership...
Also.. that Jamie at least gives that crash helmet a bit of a trim or slicks it down a little... otherwise he gonna resemble coco the clown with his cap on!
And finally... that JJ gets over the sniffles, so that she doesn't have anything to distract her from another round of Mixed Troubles with our boy...

not so much to ask is it?

Raymondo
Aug 12th, 2007, 08:18 PM
After Booty and Stretch lost a few times to Lipsky Martin, Booty asked for any helpful suggestions. I emailed him a rather tongue in cheek response. I thought I could share his brief reply with you guys:


Your Comments:
-----------------------------------------------------------

Lipsky Martin -

Dear Booty,

Are you motivating your partner sufficiently? He only responds well to promises
of kisses for winning a match!

Best of luck next time,

Raymond


-----------------------------------------------------------


Our Response:
-----------------------------------------------------------

I wish I knew how to motivate him....thanks tho!

- Booty

RFS
Aug 13th, 2007, 09:15 AM
http://www.cincytennis.com/2/en/oncourt/draws/
Bhupathi & Murray (if they come thru the first) face the Bryan's... and Bhupathi is fresh off a victory against the twins, so here's hoping Jamie starts back to some winning ways in the doubles.

Incidentally Booty is partnering Sam Querry as a WC...

Raymondo
Aug 13th, 2007, 10:55 AM
http://www.cincytennis.com/2/en/oncourt/draws/
Bhupathi & Murray (if they come thru the first) face the Bryan's... and Bhupathi is fresh off a victory against the twins, so here's hoping Jamie starts back to some winning ways in the doubles.

Incidentally Booty is partnering Sam Querry as a WC...

Thanks for the info RFS. And I share your wish list for the week:)

Sleepwalker64
Aug 13th, 2007, 11:59 AM
Dear Booty,

Are you motivating your partner sufficiently? He only responds well to promises
of kisses for winning a match!

Best of luck next time,

Raymond


-----------------------------------------------------------


Our Response:
-----------------------------------------------------------

I wish I knew how to motivate him....thanks tho!

- Booty

:haha:

RFS
Aug 13th, 2007, 03:11 PM
After Booty and Stretch lost a few times to Lipsky Martin, Booty asked for any helpful suggestions. I emailed him a rather tongue in cheek response. I thought I could share his brief reply with you guys:


Your Comments:
-----------------------------------------------------------

Lipsky Martin -

Dear Booty,

Are you motivating your partner sufficiently? He only responds well to promises
of kisses for winning a match!

Best of luck next time,

Raymond


-----------------------------------------------------------


Our Response:
-----------------------------------------------------------

I wish I knew how to motivate him....thanks tho!

- Booty

Arf!!!
Oh dear... maybe there was more truth to the tongue in cheek comment in the post final pressers about where Eric fitted in with all the kisses!

But seriously - Kiera's article threw an interesting slant on how life on the road had affected them... perhaps it was destined to have a distinct lack of longevity! Sounds to me like they were both getting frustrated with each other...

~Kiera~
Aug 14th, 2007, 08:27 PM
http://www.bootyandstretch.com/index.php

8/14 - I apologize for the lack of posting lately. But I'm here to give you the latest....Stretch is playing in Cincy this week with Bhupati, first round match will be on Weds against Monaco-Perry. I am playing with Querrey taking on Zimojic-Djokovic today (tues). We are still planning on playing the US Open together and there is a possibility of a playing a tourney or two in October in the Indoor season"

Cilla
Aug 15th, 2007, 12:37 AM
That's good :) They should at least stick it out until the rest of the year, & if they still want to split then fair enough.

predrag
Aug 15th, 2007, 11:26 AM
Cannot find the link to the Guardian's article.
It's titled "Murray enrols in Indian doubles masterclasses".
Excerpt found here:

http://home.cogeco.ca/~courtcoverage/

Jamie Murray, whose long-term ambition is to become world No1 at men's doubles, sets off in a new direction today as he tries a fresh partnership with Mahesh Bhupathi in the Masters Series in Ohio. It is part of a plan hatched by the French-Canadian coach Louis Cayer without whom, Murray volunteered, he would not have won the Wimbledon mixed doubles title this summer with Jelena Jankovic.

..."The idea is to help Jamie feel he belongs among the champions of his trade as well as learning from players with great experience," said Cayer.

Murray is also pencilled in to play one tournament with Paes, who has won eight grand slam doubles titles in men's and mixed, conspicuously helping Martina Navaratilova to her record 20th Wimbledon triumph four years ago. Both players have won the men's and mixed Wimbledon doubles titles. Bhupathi is tall and dominating, whereas Paes is fast, mercurial and extrovert. Murray will be able to feed off contrasting styles and personalities.

The direction for the 2008 Tour is also being mapped out for Murray, but that for the time being remains secret. "We have a couple of players in mind who could become a regular partner for him next year, but we need to keep the names to ourselves for the moment," said Cayer.

RFS
Aug 15th, 2007, 11:37 AM
Well in a way I'm relieved there's some positive stuff coming out of the Murray camp as it was looking a little bleak!
I'm also pleased that he and Booty may reunite a little for the Indoor tourneys... they did have a good chemistry and both boosted themselves up the rankings, so it's nice to see that they've at least got an amicable relationship still.

If only Louis' plans included a hair cut, I'd be a happy RFS!

predrag
Aug 15th, 2007, 10:38 PM
Nole :spit: Here's hoping for pics :hehehe:

One picture and that's the end of the story.

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/9121/noleundiesuf7.jpg


http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/story.html?id=7c284ba9-2ff4-4514-99af-f95c7077fcbd

Djokovic can be seen on the YouTube website doing his impressions of Nadal, Federer and Anna Kournikova. But he seemed reluctant to talk about his participation in the fashion show, which was part of the opening party for the players Sunday night.

The details are sketchy, but Blake apparently bet Djokovic wouldn't appear on the runway with nothing on but his underwear. It's the kind of dare a fun-loving guy couldn't pass up.

"I didn't want to go alone," Djokovic said. "One Italian guy came up, Adriano Biasella. He said: 'I'm going to do it,' so we went together. It was pretty strange. The people were confused.Who are these guys?


http://www.tennisnews.com/exclusive.php?pID=21517

Q. You really don't want to talk about the underwear thing?
NOVAK DJOKOVIC: I'll just keep that on the side, try and hope that the picture is not going to come out.

Q. Was it planned? Did you go in there expecting to do it?
NOVAK DJOKOVIC: No, I didn't. Actually, I didn't. I just wanted to have fun, whatever. I just tried to enjoy on and off the court as much as I can. We had a lot of fun. There was a lot of players, about 15 or 20 players, backstage. Mostly we had a lot of fun, whatever that means.
Yeah, we went like for catwalk two times. Cameras were off. I had a little chat with James, said, How much would you offer me if I go in underwear? He said, Well, pretty much. So I said, Okay, let me try, but I don't want to go alone. So Marcos was there. I talked to Marcos. Marcos wanted to do it. Then he thought about the whole situation, what would happen probably, which is happening with me right now (laughter). He said, No, I'm just going to leave it. I have my own ego and stuff, I better leave it to you.
I didn't want to go alone. One Italian guy came up, Adriano Biasella, he came up, he said, I'm going to do it, so we went together. It was pretty strange. The people were confused. Who are these guys? What are they doing? What are they thinking?
But it was a lot of fun.

Q. How much money did you and James agree to?
NOVAK DJOKOVIC: I leave it. No, I don't want to say. No, I didn't take the money. He said, There you go, the money is there, it was worth it. But I said, No, I don't want to take the money. I just like to tickle him a little bit, how much money. But it was good.

Q. What's the funniest reaction you've had from the other players?
NOVAK DJOKOVIC: They were surprised 'cause I couldn't stop talking and laughing backstage. I just had a great time backstage with all those guys. It was really a great atmosphere. We just started talking, laughing all the time, all the time. They were not too much surprised I went in underwear because they knew how I was. But they were sorry that I didn't get a chance to go alone on the catwalk dressed because they wanted to see a little dance. Next time.

RFS
Aug 15th, 2007, 10:42 PM
Excellent result for Jamie and Mahesh - 75 ranking points for Jamie and a win in a MTB.

Now down to JJ to work some magic... night-ski all... a demain!

Cilla
Aug 16th, 2007, 12:03 AM
One picture and that's the end of the story.

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/9121/noleundiesuf7.jpg

Finally :rolls:

Thanks Predrag :yeah:

Cilla
Aug 16th, 2007, 12:07 AM
So far so good for Jamie and Bhupathi... 4-1 up in the first!

Edit - first set won with a TB!
Wow, Jamie finally won a champions TB :bolt: :lol:

7-6, 6-7, 10-3 :yeah:

predrag
Aug 16th, 2007, 01:39 AM
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/1213/jamiebhupathi01kg6.jpg

~Kiera~
Aug 16th, 2007, 02:05 PM
Thanks, Predrag :)

From the latest edition of ACE magazine (there's an article which accompanies this, which I'll get up later)

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/48/jjjmff8.jpg

:lol:

schorsch
Aug 16th, 2007, 09:51 PM
babolat wilson :help: especially wilson made me mad :mad:

Cilla
Aug 16th, 2007, 10:36 PM
Thanks, Predrag :)

From the latest edition of ACE magazine (there's an article which accompanies this, which I'll get up later)

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/48/jjjmff8.jpg

:lol:

:rolls: :spit:

Damn me for not renewing my subscription to ACE :lol:

Thanks Sarah.

Sleepwalker64
Aug 16th, 2007, 10:41 PM
:lol:

predrag
Aug 16th, 2007, 10:45 PM
Jelena doesn't want to be ranked this low.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/more_sport/article2263845.ece

The 50 sporting couples

32 Jamie Murray and Jelena Jankovic
They say they’re not dating, but the flirtatious Wimbledon mixed doubles champions have so much chemistry that they deserve to be on this list. Jankovic said she had promised Murray kisses to motivate him.

predrag
Aug 16th, 2007, 10:49 PM
From the latest edition of ACE magazine (there's an article which accompanies this, which I'll get up later)

Thanks Sarah! The story from the true insider (Jamie's coach). :)

~Kiera~
Aug 16th, 2007, 11:22 PM
There's actually two relevant pieces in ACE. The first deals with the possibility of Jamie and Jelena playing doubles at the US Open whilst the second is an interview with Louis Cayer, Jamie's coach.

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/3281/wmusrn9.th.jpg (http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wmusrn9.jpg)

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/1316/lc1xv0.th.jpg (http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lc1xv0.jpg) http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/5203/lc2dt7.th.jpg (http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lc2dt7.jpg) http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/4694/lc3bw6.th.jpg (http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lc3bw6.jpg)

~Kiera~
Aug 17th, 2007, 02:34 AM
Bryan/Bryan def. Bhupathi/Murray 6-3, 6-2 :(

downunderfan
Aug 17th, 2007, 03:03 AM
Sarah, thanks a lot for the ACE. Priceless photo on the last page.

downunderfan
Aug 17th, 2007, 03:16 AM
Sarah, thanks a lot for the ACE. Priceless photo on the last page.

Raymondo
Aug 17th, 2007, 09:00 AM
Sarah, great article. Thanks.

RFS
Aug 17th, 2007, 09:18 AM
Oh when you see that picture... look at their eyes... ok romantic overture chip switching to overload!!!

The article is interesting.... Louis' comments about Jamie wanting to commit to working heard pre-LA (and pre-Booty-split) is a good insight into what are hopefully good plans for Jamie for 2008.

It's a shame the Bhu-Ray lost against Bryan-squared - wonder if JM is playing at NH before the Open or whether he'll have a break from partner hopping, before reuniting with Booty and hopefully JJ

predrag
Aug 17th, 2007, 10:10 AM
http://sport.guardian.co.uk/tennis/story/0,,2150607,00.html

Andy was terrible and I didn't want to watch, says brother Jamie
Richard Jago in Cincinnati
Friday August 17, 2007

Jamie Murray yesterday admitted that watching his younger brother, Andy, tumble out of the Cincinnati Masters this week was painful. He also conceded that Andy, the world No16, had put in a terrible performance during his straight-sets defeat against Marcos Baghdatis.

Andy has suffered with a wrist injury for much of the summer. It forced him to miss the French Open and Wimbledon but his tentative steps back to action have not been successful and Wednesday's defeat by Baghdatis made him question whether he would be able to compete in the forthcoming US Open.

Jamie, who cruised into the second round of the doubles in Cincinnati last night, said: "He played terrible in his match - I didn't really want to watch. I'm sure the crowd didn't want to watch it either, but it's tough. He's come back from injury.

"I think his wrist is much better but it's just confidence. Mentally you have to get over that block of 'Oh my God, if I hit my forehand, am I going to do my wrist in again', so maybe that will take a while to get over. But he certainly wasn't good."

Jamie had no such concerns about his own form. He showed how much he has improved in just a few months as he and Mahesh Bhupathi, the former doubles world No1, overcame Juan Monaco of Argentina and Todd Perry of Australia 7-6, 6-7, 10-3.

Murray's serving was good, his volleying audacious and his serve-returning improved. He also survived three unusual incidents - once when Monaco was able to smash back a Murray smash for a winner, once when a net cord serve from Monaco earned a let by striking Murray on the leg, and once when Bhupathi served an ace only for Perry to dangle the ball before the umpire, claiming it had burst.

That point was replayed but this time Bhupathi and Murray lost it and went on to lose that service game too. Though the Indian-Scottish partnership dominated for lengthy periods the contest became much closer than it looked as if it should have been.

An awkwardness for Jamie has been that, while partnering Bhupathi, he is required to occupy the right court, which he does not normally do and which he should not need to when he partners Leander Paes, the other former doubles world No1 from India, in Bangkok and Tokyo soon. Nor will that be necessary if he plays with Andy at New Haven next week, something which has not apparently been ruled out.

"I haven't found a partner yet - Tim [Henman] didn't want to play," said Jamie. "I guess he doesn't really want to hang around to play doubles if he doesn't do so well in the singles, which is fair enough. I don't know if Andy really wants to play but I still need to find someone."

orinocoy
Aug 17th, 2007, 03:32 PM
Sarah, thanks a lot for the ACE. Priceless photo on the last page.

yep. virtually you can see it sparking. :hearts:

Cilla
Aug 17th, 2007, 04:23 PM
yep. virtually you can see it sparking. :hearts:
Very true :angel: It is a great piece of photography :angel:

swordfire
Aug 17th, 2007, 07:30 PM
:hearts: JnJ

I love how, in every lil bit about Jelena in ACE (the US preview or the WTA rankings blub), there is mention of how she a) charmed the nation, b) is now considered semi-British, or c) that she laughed and flirted her way to Wimbledon glory with Jamie, and maybe she'll do the same at the US?

It warms my lil shipper heart, it does.

Sleepwalker64
Aug 18th, 2007, 10:26 PM
I just found out...that John Malkovich is Serbian/Scotish combination:)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Malkovich
So...something good can come out with this two:)

RFS
Aug 19th, 2007, 11:22 AM
Just because I'm bored... and I think I originally posted it in only Jelena's News & Articles... before this JnJ thread came into being... think it has a rightful place here!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnSmSVo2EMM

I think she has SUCH an impish look in the 2nd interview... such mischevious minds these two!

RFS
Aug 19th, 2007, 11:31 AM
Jamie is playing with Jordan Kerr (AUS) at Pilot Pen
http://dps.usta.com/usta_master/usta/doc/content/doc_584_12881.pdf?8/18/2007%2010:55:51%20PM

Booty also teaming up with an Aussie - Ashley Fisher...

Soooo... no chance of a week of sightseeing in NY for JJ & JM!

Cilla
Aug 19th, 2007, 01:36 PM
Soooo... no chance of a week of sightseeing in NY for JJ & JM!

:lol:

I hope Jamie sends JJ a nice good luck text :angel:

RFS
Aug 20th, 2007, 08:21 AM
:lol:

I hope Jamie sends JJ a nice good luck text :angel:

Better make that a sweet consolation text...

RFS
Aug 21st, 2007, 07:50 AM
Well Kerr and Jamie face the Lipsky/Martin nemeses (pre-Booty and Stretch split)...
Booty is playing at the same time on a different court!

Let's hope Jelena sends Jamie a good luck text - it'll do his confidence no end of good if he can finally turn around a streak against these two.

http://dps.usta.com/usta_master/usta/doc/content/doc_584_12891.pdf?8/21/2007%201:33:24%20AM

~Kiera~
Aug 21st, 2007, 09:07 PM
Not strictly news, but it's funny :lol:

http://www.sealsanctuary.co.uk/press190707ooo.html

Holidaymakers trigger rescue missions for seal pups Jamie and Jelena

Holidaymakers sparked simultaneous seal-rescue dramas 25 miles apart in the West Highlands.

The two rescued common seal pups, a male and a female, have been christened Jamie and Jelena in tribute to Scottish Wimbledon champion Jamie Murray and his doubles partner Jelena Jankovic.

The separate rescues have provided the Scottish Sea Life Sanctuary at Oban with its first two seal patients of the summer…one from the Isle of Mull and one from a mere 100 yards from the Sanctuary's seal hospital.

Sisters Shona and Caroline Bell from East Lothian, found common seal pup Jamie as they walked the nature trail with their parents next to the Sanctuary…just minutes after watching a seal-feeding demonstration.

"It was unbelievable," said the Sanctuary's displays supervisor Tina Houchin. "We'd just been describing the Sanctuary's rescue work and how seal pups occasionally get separated from their mothers, and within a few minutes they'd found one. "They spotted tiny Jamie on the rocks on the banks of the loch and raced back to tell me about it. "I knew straight away, just by how skinny he was, that he had lost touch with his mum."

Sanctuary animal care expert Tina Houchin radioed for help and for bite-proof' gloves, and within no time the youngster was safely transferred to the indoor seal hospital where he was tube-fed a special re-hydration fluid.

All of this happened on Wimbledon finals day, just an hour after Sanctuary boss Alex Blackman had taken an anxious call from holidaymaker Tony Shorrocks, who reported finding a seal pup on the shore of Lochbuie on the Isle of Mull.

Tony, 51, from Woolton, Merseyside, and his partner were at the end of an idyllic week's holiday on the island and paying a final visit to a deserted Lochside beauty spot before catching the ferry back to the mainland.

When hungry Jelena actually tried to suckle on Tony's walking boots the couple decided to try and help her. After taking advice from the Sea Life Sanctuary they used Tony's anorak to cover and subdue the seal before putting it into a fishing crate they found nearby. They popped it in the back of their estate car, caught the ferry and delivered Jelena safely into the hands of Sanctuary staff at Oban before heading home.

They now plan to officially adopt Jelena, helping pay for her care and feeding until she returns to the wild.

"Both are now being fed on a healthy diet of malted milk and salmon oil, and have moved from isolation cubicles into a larger indoor pen where visitors can watch discreetly through a large viewing window," said Tina.

"If all goes well they will stay with us for about three months, by which time they should have gained enough weight and built up enough strength to safely resume life in the wild."

Jamie is the first of the hundreds of pups rescued by the Sanctuary to have been found within its own grounds. "Even healthy adult common seals rarely venture this far up the loch, so for a pup to end up here is an exceptional event," said Tina.

"The two rescues are also very early. We don't normally get our first casualties in until the end of the month, and this could be a sign that perhaps global warming is prompted an earlier start to the breeding season."

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/1310/jamjelo07071yk2.jpg

swordfire
Aug 21st, 2007, 10:08 PM
Hee! Adorable!

predrag
Aug 21st, 2007, 10:08 PM
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/1310/jamjelo07071yk2.jpg

So Jelena must be pleasingly plump, but hungry seal on the left. :lol:

RFS
Aug 21st, 2007, 10:13 PM
Quite literally... arf arf!

Cilla
Aug 22nd, 2007, 12:26 AM
:rolls:

Someone needs to let them know about this story :rolls:

RFS
Aug 22nd, 2007, 08:13 AM
Rain delays has meant that Kerr/Murray v Lipsky/Martin is now rescheduled for today - 2pm (so around 7/8pm?) rain notwithstanding!

Hopefully Jamie can get a bit of confidence going in to the USO with FINALLY a win over Lipsky/Martin, who rolled Booray 3 times in a row just before they announced their split.

Interestingly enough - I was scouting Jamie's thread in MTF and folks there predicted a split ages before, during their off clay season... so perhaps it wasn't as big a shock as initially reported!

Raymondo
Aug 22nd, 2007, 11:46 AM
So Jelena must be pleasingly plump, but hungry seal on the left. :lol:

The question is did Jamie get many, many kisses all over? Looks like he is getting one at least!:lol:

Sleepwalker64
Aug 22nd, 2007, 01:42 PM
:haha:

~Kiera~
Aug 22nd, 2007, 05:13 PM
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/5919/jeljamieo07kmlwd4.jpg

I take it Jelena is the one posing for the camera whilst Jamie is whispering something about those kisses she promised him :lol:

Cilla
Aug 22nd, 2007, 06:26 PM
^^

:haha:

Naturally JJ is the poser of the two seals :angel: :rolls: Thanks again for finding this :kiss:

RFS
Aug 22nd, 2007, 08:10 PM
And they're off to a good start at Pilot Pen...
Kerr/Murray d Lipsky/Martin in straight sets - 6-4, 7-5

Fantastic boost for Jamie after losing to them 3 times straight

Tennis-Chick
Aug 22nd, 2007, 11:14 PM
Well done Jamie :yeah:
Also Booty won too ;)

Booty said on their website that they were hoping to play with each other this week, but split to let Kerr and Fisher in the draw.

RFS
Aug 23rd, 2007, 07:44 AM
Well done Jamie :yeah:
Also Booty won too ;)

Booty said on their website that they were hoping to play with each other this week, but split to let Kerr and Fisher in the draw.

Oooh TC I did not know that - is this a trial reconciliation for B&S?
Actually thinking about it - it was prob more for them to get match practice together ahead of the Open.

I'm encouraged though - wins for both of them and maybe even a trial separation may make them a bit more effective on one of their more favoured surfaces, and probably won't do their rankings any harm either.

RFS
Aug 23rd, 2007, 10:24 AM
Oh Jamie... fresh off the Am.com site - Jamie is signed up to partner Liezel Huber for the Mixed at the USO...
http://andymurray.com/about/news/22-08/us-open-draw-released/

Guess that with that draw, JJ had to opt to concentrate all out on the singles ...

Raymondo
Aug 23rd, 2007, 11:23 AM
Oh Jamie... fresh off the Am.com site - Jamie is signed up to partner Liezel Huber for the Mixed at the USO...
http://andymurray.com/about/news/22-08/us-open-draw-released/

Guess that with that draw, JJ had to opt to concentrate all out on the singles ...

Major disappointment from the romantic perspective :( We'll have to focus our hopes on the seals instead. Mind you, from a tennis perspective, Liezel looks a very good alternative for Jamie. But no kisses and flirting! Guess Jelena will be keeping a very close eye on him :)

RFS
Aug 23rd, 2007, 11:58 AM
Major disappointment from the romantic perspective :( We'll have to focus our hopes on the seals instead. Mind you, from a tennis perspective, Liezel looks a very good alternative for Jamie. But no kisses and flirting! Guess Jelena will be keeping a very close eye on him :)

Liezel is an AMAZING pick... his currency has soared since Wimbledon in that respect...

And let's not forget.... for all the flirting, they played some outstanding tennis - so that must count for something with players of Huber's calibre...

IMPOSSIBLE
Aug 23rd, 2007, 12:52 PM
Jelena's obviously concentrating on singles ;)

RFS
Aug 23rd, 2007, 01:16 PM
Major disappointment from the romantic perspective :( We'll have to focus our hopes on the seals instead. Mind you, from a tennis perspective, Liezel looks a very good alternative for Jamie. But no kisses and flirting! Guess Jelena will be keeping a very close eye on him :)

I think Liezel needs to strike a deal with JJ - for every match they win, JJ has to supply to continued motivational kisses... win win for everyone!

Raymondo
Aug 23rd, 2007, 03:32 PM
Liezel is an AMAZING pick... his currency has soared since Wimbledon in that respect...

And let's not forget.... for all the flirting, they played some outstanding tennis - so that must count for something with players of Huber's calibre...

You're right. The more you think about it, the more amazing it is for Jamie. You remember Jelena's skeptical arched eyebrows? Well, the boy wasn't bluffing ... Can't imagine Jelena's really too thrilled though. I mean the nightmare scenario is she doesn't make it through her very tough singles draw and this time there will be no consolation of the mixed :eek:

swordfire
Aug 23rd, 2007, 04:03 PM
Le sigh. There goes my hope for more hotyoungflirtythings, then.

But awesome pick for him.

RFS
Aug 23rd, 2007, 04:12 PM
You're right. The more you think about it, the more amazing it is for Jamie. You remember Jelena's skeptical arched eyebrows? Well, the boy wasn't bluffing ... Can't imagine Jelena's really too thrilled though. I mean the nightmare scenario is she doesn't make it through her very tough singles draw and this time there will be no consolation of the mixed :eek:

Hey yeah - good point... didn't she say in that interview that Jamie wanted it quite bad (to have her as his partner...I mean... !!!)
It will be interesting to know how the decision came about - because this is all inside info from Rob courtesy of am.com.
The ACTUAL draw is out on 27th... and Raymondo I sooo agree - the nightmare will be if she falls early :awww:

Who made the decision?
In my romantic little mind, Jamie saw the draw, and realised that the chances of going all the way again given JJ's focus was really slim and so offered up his hopes for a reunion as a sacrifical lamb on the alter of her success... cried on one of the Bryan-squared's shoulders, and which ever one partnered Huber also sacrificed his mixed ambition, and gave up Liezel to help Jamie over his brave falling-on-sword...

Alternatively... JJ (on seeing said nightmare draw) released Jamie from his patient wait, and told him to go seek another, with her blessing (albeit secretly hoping that he'd (a) refuse or (b) partner with someone like Bartoli and go out in the first round, whereupon he'd swear he'd NEVER leave her ever again)... but meanwhile OBVIOUSLY she pushes through the draw to success!

Oh this is SOOOO much more fun than the DIRE conference call I am on with a bunch of US colleagues, ironically blowing their trumpets at how much better the USO webby is to the Wimby webby. - heh what do THEY know!
And as for those two scenarios... gonna ditch my current obviously Oscar winning debut screenplay for something around those lines - certainly beats the act and a half I got so far!

Tennis-Chick
Aug 23rd, 2007, 04:19 PM
Oooh TC I did not know that - is this a trial reconciliation for B&S?
Actually thinking about it - it was prob more for them to get match practice together ahead of the Open.

I'm encouraged though - wins for both of them and maybe even a trial separation may make them a bit more effective on one of their more favoured surfaces, and probably won't do their rankings any harm either.

Well at the start they did say the US Open would be there last tournament together, but Booty said on their website there is a chance for them to maybe play one or two events together later in the year, which would be good. But I don't think they will become a permanent doubles team again :sad:

RFS
Aug 23rd, 2007, 04:24 PM
Well at the start they did say the US Open would be there last tournament together, but Booty said on their website there is a chance for them to maybe play one or two events together later in the year, which would be good. But I don't think they will become a permanent doubles team again :sad:

And here's another interesting little twist...
Ashley Fisher is snapping at Jamie's heels in the rankings... if Jamie wins with Jordan Kerr he stays just ahead in the rankings and poss climbs back to 29 or maybe even 28 if he goes all the way through in this tourney.
Surprising, therefore that with the Open coming up - B&S weren't trying to consolidate their own position and score up their own rankings?
Curious.. but good they're progressing - a bit of confidence going into USO will help...

RFS
Aug 23rd, 2007, 05:33 PM
Actually - reunions MAY still be on the cards at some stage
As for Jamie, well sadly he won’t be reprising his mixed partnership with Jelena Jankovic just yet. He’s signed with the hugely experienced Liezel Huber instead.
I didn't pick that up at first...

~Kiera~
Aug 23rd, 2007, 08:10 PM
Actually - reunions MAY still be on the cards at some stage

I didn't pick that up at first...

I'm sure they'll play again sometime, it's just a matter of finding the right time. Just think of the chemistry and all those smiles when it does happen :hearts:

I was going through my video folder earlier, trying to declutter, when I came across one of their "kisses" videos from Wimbledon. After watching all that cuteness, I realised I'm far more disappointed than I first thought :lol:

RFS
Aug 23rd, 2007, 08:11 PM
Kerr/Murray def Kuznetsov/Sweeting 3-6, 6-3, 10-5

RFS
Aug 23rd, 2007, 08:14 PM
I'm sure they'll play again sometime, it's just a matter of finding the right time. Just think of the chemistry and all those smiles when it does happen :hearts:

I was going through my video folder earlier, trying to declutter, when I came across one of their "kisses" videos from Wimbledon. After watching all that cuteness, I realised I'm far more disappointed than I first thought :lol:
HEH - awww bless ya!

I haven't managed to have the heart to delete the final "Today At Wimbledon" where there was a lovely montage of them before those final two games. And I NEED to clear down everything next week so that I can set the HD recorders for Sky coverage when I go on holibobs...
I might actually have to write that to DVD and then one day figure out how to You-Tube it or put it somewhere!

swordfire
Aug 23rd, 2007, 08:24 PM
I tell ya, I have a whole folder dedicated to JnJ. Cannot delete them for fear of putting a jinx on them (JnJ) and they will never play together again. For real.

It's quite worrying really, isn't it?

~Kiera~
Aug 23rd, 2007, 08:36 PM
Kerr/Murray def Kuznetsov/Sweeting 3-6, 6-3, 10-5

Wow, Jamie won a super tiebreak :lol: He often has such rotten luck with them.

HEH - awww bless ya!

I haven't managed to have the heart to delete the final "Today At Wimbledon" where there was a lovely montage of them before those final two games. And I NEED to clear down everything next week so that I can set the HD recorders for Sky coverage when I go on holibobs...
I might actually have to write that to DVD and then one day figure out how to You-Tube it or put it somewhere!

What a sweet clip. I still have that on my HD, too :tape: :lol:

If you need help with figuring out how to go from DVD to youtube, let me know. You need a few programs to do it, but it's easy enough once you get the hang of it. I had to figure it all out myself not too long ago.

I tell ya, I have a whole folder dedicated to JnJ. Cannot delete them for fear of putting a jinx on them (JnJ) and they will never play together again. For real.

It's quite worrying really, isn't it?

They're too good to delete anyway ;)

predrag
Aug 23rd, 2007, 08:49 PM
Huber celebrates the birthday and gets the cherry on top. :(

New Haven, CT (August 22): Liezel Huber celebrated her birthday with a cake which she shared with friends. It was decorated with American flags as she recently received her US citizenship.

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/8098/huber01vl7.jpg

RFS
Aug 23rd, 2007, 08:56 PM
If you need help with figuring out how to go from DVD to youtube, let me know. You need a few programs to do it, but it's easy enough once you get the hang of it. I had to figure it all out myself not too long ago.
They're too good to delete anyway ;)
Oh yes please - when I finally get out of the mound of paperwork I have pre-hols I'll get that sorted - prob when I come back so will send u a private msg then!

~Kiera~
Aug 23rd, 2007, 09:08 PM
Oh yes please - when I finally get out of the mound of paperwork I have pre-hols I'll get that sorted - prob when I come back so will send u a private msg then!

Hope you have a nice (and rain free!) holiday :)

Raymondo
Aug 24th, 2007, 11:11 AM
Jamie is doing very well in the Pilot Pen, as is his new USO partner!
http://sport.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1345742007

RFS
Aug 24th, 2007, 04:03 PM
Alas - Jamie's run at Pilot Pen comes to a halt
Fyrstenberg/Matkowski def Kerr/Murray 6-2, 6-3.

Semi result and a bit of a hoik up in the rankings hopefully, so maybe a bit more confidence going into the USO.

~Kiera~
Aug 24th, 2007, 06:58 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/6962796.stm

Jamie Murray beaten in New Haven

Jamie Murray and Jordan Kerr lost 6-2 6-3 to Mariusz Fyrstenberg and Marcin Matkowski in the doubles semi-finals of the Pilot Pen event in New Haven.

The Scot and his Australian partner were blown away by the power-serving of the Polish fourth seeds, who lost only five points on serve during the match.

"They served well and backed it up at the net," said Murray.

"We were pretty flat. That was frustrating, because we never really gave ourselves a shot to challenge."

Murray was bidding for his first final since he teamed up with Eric Butorac to win the Nottingham title in June.

The pair, will now be reunited for the US Open, won three ATP titles in 2007 but have played with different partners in New Haven. Butorac and partner Ashley Fisher also reached the last four.

Murray added: "It will be my first time at the Open so that will be good and we might even be seeded."

Since announcing he will split from Butorac after the US Open, Murray has partnered James Blake and India's Mahesh Bhupathi.

RFS
Aug 24th, 2007, 07:10 PM
To be fair - on LS it really looked as tho' Kerr and Murray never got themselves into it - they were broken right at the start and the downward trend just continued!

~Kiera~
Aug 24th, 2007, 09:19 PM
From the article Predrag posted:

Jankovic has registered a 62-16 singles record, a 5-11 doubles mark and she showed her versatility in partnering Jamie Murray to capture the mixed doubles championship at last month's Wimbledon. In an effort to devote all of her energy and attention to the singles draw, Jankovic will not play doubles or mixed doubles at next week's U.S. Open, but on this day the personable, perpetually-smiling Serbian was enjoying the group training dynamic.

Tennis Week: You won Wimbledon with Jamie Murray, will you be playing mixed or doubles here in New York?

Jelena Jankovic: No. I'm going to be focused just on singles because it's the last major of the year and I want to do my best in singles and just focus on singles. It wears me out a lot to play singles, doubles and mixed doubles especially if it's raining then you don't get days off. So I said to Jamie, I won't play mixed doubles here because I want to do well in singles and put all my attention and energy into playing singles.

RFS
Aug 24th, 2007, 10:08 PM
Thx Kiera/Predrag

~Kiera~
Aug 25th, 2007, 04:04 AM
http://www.theherald.co.uk/sport/headlines/display.var.1643606.0.0.php

A Stretch too far as Booty ponders split

Eric Butorac believes Jamie Murray may ultimately regret his decision to end their fledgling partnership after just one season.

Booty and Stretch, as they became known, will make their last appearance together at next week's US Open in Flushing Meadow. Butorac expects his erstwhile partner to sign with a player in the top 10 of the ATP doubles rankings in the coming weeks.

He admits to being puzzled by the decision, considering the Scot's public claims the partnership was a long-term project, made just a few weeks earlier. Yet despite being jilted, there are, in the cliched terms of every broken relationship, "no hard feelings".

"Maybe Jamie does have aspirations of becoming a singles player, but I think he knows the reality is doubles," said Butorac.

"He can become the best doubles player in the world and I know he's having interesting conversations with some big-name players about next year.

"But hooking up with a more experienced player is really just a short-term fix.

I am looking for a long-term partner. I need someone who is young and hungry and could, hopefully, be my partner for the next five years. I had hoped Jamie would be the man because I've got nothing but good things to say about him."

The split came as a surprise after a year in which the pair claimed three Tour titles and cemented their place in the upper reaches of the rankings. That, coupled with the fact that doubles partnerships do not tend to mature at an early age - Murray is 21 and Butorac 26 - and a bright future seemed ahead.

Butorac struggles to explain why the relationship fractured. They were beaten in four sets by the No.9 seeds at Wimbledon then suffered early defeats at the start of the hard court season.

Perhaps Murray's mixed doubles triumph at the All England Club opened his eyes to a new world; one that didn't include his old mate Booty.

"It was me who brought up the idea of splitting up but I was still shocked when he said let's do it'," reveals Butorac. "We were losing a lot of matches and different opinions were developing between us. We had different attitudes to what you should be doing on the practice court and off court.

"Whether you are winning or losing, you are dependent on your how your partner plays and that puts a lot of strain on the relationship. Chemistry in any doubles partnership is extremely important. It takes time it develop and Jamie and I had that but for whatever reason it was suddenly not working for us and we were becoming more frustrated with each other."

Butorac is, though, determined to enjoy the duo's final fling this week. Before Wimbledon, he was a bemused bystander while Murray dealt with a barrage of home media interest, only heightened by brother Andy's withdrawal from the men's singles. In one press conference Butorac answered just one question . . . and that was about his playing partner.

Now he is on home ground, competing at the US Open for the first time, but his involvement is hardly likely to prick the interest of an American media obsessed with the Williams sisters and Andy Roddick, although he doesn't mind one bit.

"For me Flushing Meadows is up there with Wimbledon," he said. "It will be my first time there and my whole family will come. We would love to go out with a bang. We are still playing really well together but its tough to predict how we will get on.

"It is dependent on the draw. I think we have shown we can compete. It is just a case of stringing those performances together on the big stage. We have not had a great hard court season and that's part of the reason we split up, but we are finding things easier."

Murray and Jordan Kerr, meanwhile, had no answer to the power of fourth seeds Mariusz Fyrstenberg and Marcin Matkowski as they exited the Pilot Pen tournament in New Haven 6-2 6-3 in the semi-finals.

~Kiera~
Aug 25th, 2007, 04:06 AM
http://www.theherald.co.uk/sport/tennis/display.var.1643605.0.0.php

Murray fails in Jankovic approach

Jamie Murray has failed to persuade Jelena Jankovic to continue the partnership that won the Wimbledon mixed doubles title in New York next week.

Jankovic is seeded No.3 in the women's singles and wants to concentrate on her quest for a first individual grand slam title. "Jamie was keen but I wanted to focus on the singles," she said. "I had so much fun at Wimbledon and it was great to have the mixed doubles to play in after I was beaten in the singles.

"Winning my first grand slam with Jamie reminded me how much I wanted to win a similar tournament on my own. I'm sure we'll play again in the future as I can't think of a better mixed doubles partner."

Murray has found a more than capable replacement in the form of Liezel Huber, the 30-year old South African doubles specialist.

She won the women's doubles at Wimbledon just a few weeks ago, her third career grand slam win, and should be the perfect foil for the Scot.

"I'm looking forward to playing with Jamie," she said. "He showed what he can do at Wimbledon and I think we will be a dangerous pairing.

"We both won at Wimbledon and it would be nice to do it again at the next grand slam."

RFS
Aug 25th, 2007, 07:48 AM
I'm sure we'll play again in the future as I can't think of a better mixed doubles partner.

Oh bless her - and with all the other articles giving her a good chance - suddenly everything feels right in the world... HELL even the SUN is out here in Londinium for the first time this week, so life has GOT to be good!


Murray has found a more than capable replacement in the form of Liezel Huber, the 30-year old South African doubles specialist.
She won the women's doubles at Wimbledon just a few weeks ago, her third career grand slam win, and should be the perfect foil for the Scot.
"I'm looking forward to playing with Jamie," she said. "He showed what he can do at Wimbledon and I think we will be a dangerous pairing.
"We both won at Wimbledon and it would be nice to do it again at the next grand slam."


I'm so pleased this "insider" info has now been confirmed... and that Liezel thinks this is a good pairing, and it shows how Jamie got a good reputation in terms of his doubles strategy ..

So in an ideal world... he and Booty go out on a high, he snares his top 10 partner for 2008, he and Liezel pick up the USO Mixed title and JJ gets the singles. There ... sorted!
Oh - and Jamie gets his girl at the end!

RFS
Aug 25th, 2007, 08:21 AM
"It was me who brought up the idea of splitting up but I was still shocked when he said let's do it'," reveals Butorac.
Hmm - I'm sure I read some where Jamie initiated it... probably by saying "yes, why not"
But I have to say - it sounds v reminiscent of a mate who asked if she would be considered for voluntary redundancy (just to see what the pay out would be) and then was miffed that she hadn't been told "No... you're too much value to the business"...
Why suggest it, if you weren't expecting the answer to come back as "OK"

schorsch
Aug 25th, 2007, 10:35 AM
thats good for jamie :) i'm sure he can learn a lot from liezel. for example how to scream at petrova. no, j/k. its good the top doubles players are interested in playing with him giving that "americans" mostly play with other americans in mixed.

i'm glad jelena chose to focus on singles.

~Kiera~
Aug 25th, 2007, 10:32 PM
http://www.tennis-x.com/xblog/2007-08-25/269.php

Jankovic Passes on Mixed Doubles Coupling with Murray at US Open

by Richard Vach

Andy Murray’s brother Jamie has shot to doubles success this year, so much so that after winning the Wimbledon mixed title with Jelena Jankovic, he cut ties with regular partner Eric Butorac to apparently find a partner worthy of sharing half the court.

Murray’s mixed doubles success, at least with Jankovic, won’t carry over to the year’s final Slam at the US Open as Jankovic says she took a pass on Murray’s advances to concentrate on her singles at Flushing Meadows.

“I’m quite disappointed that this year I will not play US Open with Jamie Murray because we won Wimbledon together,” said Jankovic, who on the other hand was not so stricken to actually say ‘yes.’ “He was looking forward to play with me, but I had to disappoint him and I had to say no because this is my last Grand Slam of the year.”

Jankovic has smartly assessed that her tank is low after a long season, but hasn’t ruled out a future pairing with the Brit.

“I would like to concentrate on singles and save energy because I played so much this year,” Jankovic said. “I’m running out of gas. If it was in Australian Open, I would play. But this is the last one. I would love to do well.”

Murray, reportedly, will recover.

“He says, ‘I understand,’” Jankovic said. “He loves to play with me, and I would love to play with him, too. We had so much fun in Wimbledon and we did so great playing for the first time. I wanted to play here as well. But it’s going to be too much for me. He understands because obviously singles is my priority. Mixed doubles is not so important for me. But in the future, I would love to play. I couldn’t ask for a better partner than him.”

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/98103.html

Wake-up call for Murray dream - no mixed doubles with Jankovic

New York - Enough is unfortunately enough for Serb third seed Jelena Jankovic, who broke the heart of Brit Jamie Murray as she declined to renew their Wimbledon-winning mixed doubles partnership at the US Open. "I'm quite disappointed that this year I will not play US Open with Jamie Murray because we won Wimbledon together," Jankovic said Saturday, adding that maximizing her singles potential is her main goal for the last major of the season.

"He was looking forward to play with me, but I had to disappoint him. I want to concentrate on singles and save energy because I played so much this year," she said. "I'm running out of gas."

Jankovic said that the elder brother of Andy Murray was gutted but realistic.

"He loves to play with me, and I would love to play with him, too," she said. "We had so much fun in Wimbledon and we did so great playing for the first time."

But the losing finalist to Justine Henin last weekend in Toronto said she will need to conserve energy after a tough, full season. After winning four titles in 2007 and a semi-finalist in New York last year, Jankovic said that she's holding up remarkably well to date.

"I have played so many matches, I never did like this before in my career. It was quite exhausting," she said before a Monday start against Slovak Jarmila Gajdosova. "Compared to how much I played, I feel quite good. I feel fresh."

Raymondo
Aug 25th, 2007, 10:45 PM
So in an ideal world... he and Booty go out on a high, he snares his top 10 partner for 2008, he and Liezel pick up the USO Mixed title and JJ gets the singles. There ... sorted!
Oh - and Jamie gets his girl at the end!

RFS you are an incurable romantic :) I echo your sentiments completely!

predrag
Aug 26th, 2007, 12:12 AM
“I would like to concentrate on singles and save energy because I played so much this year,” Jankovic said. “I’m running out of gas. If it was in Australian Open, I would play. But this is the last one. I would love to do well.”

We've heard Butorac and we know Jelena's stand,
isn't it time for Jamie to speak up on the surplus of
partnerships?

RFS
Aug 26th, 2007, 01:31 AM
RFS you are an incurable romantic :) I echo your sentiments completely!
Hee Raymondo - well someone may as well be having a bit of luck, says she... still buzzing from a night out!

Her words re: Jamie have been v v sweet - a cynic (which I actually CAN be, on bad days!) would say perhaps a little media savvy! In fact Jamie needs to be the same here - as the other articles seem to paint him out to be a bit of a love-lorn sap... he was the one saying they might give up the mixed at Wimby when they were so behind in the rain delays. I don't doubt he is disappointed - but jeez louise... he snared Liezel Huber, people...!

BUT - I think she tells it as she sees it... so perhaps come the Aussie Open, they might reunite.
I really hope so - she certainly seems keen - and dare I say it - she seemed to have a bit more confidence at the net in that Rogers Cup match against Henin. It's a shame she didn't come in more often.

We come back to a familiar theme... a focussed coached approach to her season next year - quality, not quantity (I really want to something about size not mattering here - but again I think that's the Jack Daniels talking!!)

RFS
Aug 26th, 2007, 01:34 AM
We've heard Butorac and we know Jelena's stand,
isn't it time for Jamie to speak up on the surplus of
partnerships?

Hey Predrag - I am comfortably sure that in the first few press confs, the quezzies to Jamie will not be about his progress in the Mens/Mixed... or maybe even about Andy's fitness... but on how he felt when JJ let him down about the Mixed.

predrag
Aug 26th, 2007, 01:37 AM
http://sport.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1357012007

LIKE the dumped lover going out on one last date, just for old time's sake, Eric Butorac is doing his best to put on a brave face. He's even hanging on to the faint hope that the date will go so well that everything might all be alright again – you have to feel sorry for him.

Jamie Murray's soon-to-be former doubles partner – the Booty to his Stretch – certainly isn't bad-mouthing his ex as they prepare for a swansong at next week's US Open in New York. But you can see he's hurting. As that wise old sage Neil Sedaka once said: 'Breaking up is hard to do'.

“I think we may look back and regret the decision,” said Butorac.
“It could be a very bad decision for both our careers but on the other hand it could benefit us both. I believe we would have gone to have success at the highest level. I don't agree with the decision but who knows what will happen in 2008.

“We may well play some friendly matches and we can see where it goes after that.
“I have never been one to burn bridges. There are very few great doubles players and even fewer great young doubles players.

“We have shown we are good together and can win tournaments – that's something not a lot of people can say. Maybe, one day, we will realise what we had was special.”

Murray and Butorac certainly had shown signs of promise in their first season together. In their first tournament they reached the final, only losing to Californian twins the Bryan brothers, the top ranked pair in the world.

They went on to win three ATP Tour titles – Memphis, San Jose and Nottingham – to secure a place in the top 20 of the Stanford Financial rankings.

With more and more money flowing into doubles tennis, thanks to a publicity blitz by the ATP Tour and a long-required rule change, a stellar future beckoned.

Moments after they lost in the third round at Wimbledon, Murray claimed they'd be back to win 12 months later – Booty grinned but Murray's cheating heart was already looking elsewhere.

“I never made it up to Scotland,” adds a forlorn Butorac. “I always wanted to go but never got the opportunity because Jamie is hardly ever home. I did not get to try Judy's home-cooking!

“My biggest regret will probably being not able to train with Jamie's coach Louis Kayer. He is simply an amazing coach and has improved my game so much.”

Doubles is big money these days and tough decisions need to be made. Stanford's investment means prize money has swollen and interest has risen. It's no longer an irrelevant sideshow being served up alongside the main course on the main courts.

Mahesh Bhupathi, a ten-time Grand Slam winner, played with Murray at the recent Western and Southern Group Masters in Cincinnati. He's not surprised the Scot is being choosy about who he'll partner next season.

“He's hot property, especially after winning at Wimbledon,” he said.
“He has been playing very good doubles this year and he's one of a few up and coming young doubles players who have a big future ahead of them in tennis.

“He won't be short of suitors, you can be assured of that.”

But Murray should remember that what goes around, comes around. He was keen to reprise his flirty relationship with Jelena Jankovic, which helped secure the mixed doubles title at Wimbledon, next week. But Jankovic wants to focus on the women's singles and the Scot will instead join forces with South African Liezel Huber.

Huber has an impressive doubles resume, winning this year's Wimbledon with Cara Black, the second time they've been triumphant at the All England Club in the last three years.

In doubles tennis, it seems, finding your love match can be heartbreaking stuff.

RFS
Aug 26th, 2007, 09:11 AM
This is all a little confusing... 'spose it goes to show what journalistic spin can do.
First it's all Jamie's idea...and Booty feels he (Jamie) will regret his decision;
Then it's Booty's idea and now they may both regret it...

I think (if Booty DID suggest the split) he's realising that what he's actually done is close off his access to Louis Cayer, who Judy secured for Jamie.

predrag
Aug 26th, 2007, 11:01 PM
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/tennis/article2332262.ece

New York sees reunion of Booty and Stretch
Simon Cambers in New York
August 27, 2007

It would seem that rumours of the demise of “Booty and Stretch” have been exaggerated. Less than four weeks after they announced they were breaking up their burgeoning doubles partnership, Jamie Murray (Stretch) and Eric Butorac (Booty) will reunite this week at the US Open.

Murray will join forces with Leander Paes, of India, in tournaments in Bangkok and Tokyo in the autumn, but, having won two of their three titles indoors, he and Butorac could feature together later in the year. “We might play together in the indoor tournaments,” Murray said. “We play well together, serve big and know each other’s games so well. There’s a good chance we’re going to be seeded [at the US Open], which is a first for us at a grand slam, so that’s pretty cool.”

After winning three titles in their first five months as a pairing, there was surprise when the two announced earlier this month that they were to split. Reports suggested that Murray’s mixed doubles triumph at Wimbledon with Jelena Jankovic, of Serbia, and a few disappointing results had taken the gloss off their partnership, but Butorac said that they would be fine inI New York.

“A lot of the press has made a bigger deal out of it than it was,” the American said. “We probably aren’t quite as close as we were. At one stage, we were pretty inseparable. Then we didn’t want to be around each other. Now we’re probably somewhere between.”

Both reached the semi-finals of the warm-up event in New Haven last week and look to be in good form. “I feel very good about my game and Jamie had a couple of good wins, so we should be feeling confident,” Butorac said. “Jamie and I have played so much together that there won’t be any problem slipping back into form.”

Murray revealed that Paes, the former world No 1 doubles player, had approached him. “I didn’t think about it too much because I was playing with Booty and we were playing well,” Murray said. “He kept asking me and I thought, ‘It’s a great opportunity to try and play with someone like that.’ ” Paes said that Murray has the ability to go to the top. “I have a talent for spotting something special in people,” he said. “I spotted it a year ago when he was relatively unknown. It’s that X-factor thing.”

Butorac said tha he understood why Murray would want to play with Paes, but believed he would be a better partner in the long run. “Paes is 34. It might be fun to play a couple of tournaments with him, but in a year or two I’m probably going to be the better player,” Butorac said. “I hope Jamie realises that.”

Murray will not be renewing his partnership with Jankovic and plays in the mixed doubles with Liezel Huber, of the United States, instead. The Serb turned down the Scot to concentrate on her attempt to win her first grand-slam singles title. “He understands because, obviously, singles is my priority,” Jankovic said. “In the future, I would love to play with him.”

predrag
Aug 27th, 2007, 12:05 AM
Mens' doubles draw at:

http://www.usopen.org/en_US/scores/draws/md/r1s2.html

Murray/Butorac playing German pair Behrend/Mayer in the
first round, on the way to meet Knowles/Nestor in the
3rd round.

RFS
Aug 27th, 2007, 07:46 AM
Mens' doubles draw at:

http://www.usopen.org/en_US/scores/draws/md/r1s2.html

Murray/Butorac playing German pair Behrend/Mayer in the
first round, on the way to meet Knowles/Nestor in the
3rd round.

And they snuck into the seeding, which is good for them.

RFS
Aug 27th, 2007, 12:21 PM
Murray revealed that Paes, the former world No 1 doubles player, had approached him. “I didn’t think about it too much because I was playing with Booty and we were playing well,” Murray said. “He kept asking me and I thought, ‘It’s a great opportunity to try and play with someone like that.’ ” Paes said that Murray has the ability to go to the top. “I have a talent for spotting something special in people,” he said. “I spotted it a year ago when he was relatively unknown. It’s that X-factor thing.”

Butorac said tha he understood why Murray would want to play with Paes, but believed he would be a better partner in the long run. “Paes is 34. It might be fun to play a couple of tournaments with him, but in a year or two I’m probably going to be the better player,” Butorac said. “I hope Jamie realises that.”

Hmm - I suspect it will be more than the 2 tourneys they have in Bangkok/Tokyo...
Perhaps a couple more years maybe as Paes is knockin' on a little...

Really comes down to whether (in that time) Booty can keep himself up in the rankings with new partnerships....

Cilla
Aug 27th, 2007, 07:54 PM
Ah, I've just come back from hols to read there is no Murkovic at the USO :sobbing:

~Kiera~
Aug 27th, 2007, 11:04 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/tennis.html?in_article_id=477845&in_page_id=1956

Jankovic gives Jamie tennis elbow

Last updated at 10:29am on 26th August 2007

Jamie Murray, who flirted his way to a Wimbledon championship with Jelena Jankovic, has been dumped by the world No 3 at the US Open.

After winning the mixed doubles title, Murray invited the Serb to spend Christmas with him in Scotland. But a reunion seems a remote prospect as Jankovic ended their on-court relationship in the run-up to New York.

Brad Gilbert, who coaches Andy Murray, said: "I think Jelena has greater aspirations. She is trying to win the US Open (singles)."

Jamie, 21, has now paired up with Liezel Huber, a 31-year-old South African.

RFS
Aug 27th, 2007, 11:59 PM
But she still talks him up as such a great guy!... as raymondo said - I'm an incurable romantic!

~Kiera~
Aug 28th, 2007, 04:09 AM
http://sport.guardian.co.uk/tennis/story/0,,2157285,00.html

Jankovic's fast start

Steve Bierley
Tuesday August 28, 2007
The Guardian

Serbia's Jelena Jankovic, who won the Wimbledon mixed doubles title with Jamie Murray, opened up on the Arthur Ashe court yesterday and reached the second round of the US Open with a 6-2, 7-6 win over Jarmila Gajdosova of Slovakia.

Jankovic, the No3 seed, will not be playing the mixed as she concentrates on trying to reach a first grand-slam singles final, having made the last four here a year ago. She was also a semi-finalist at Roland Garros this year. "I needed to save energy, but Jamie and me may play during next year's Australian Open," she said.

RFS
Aug 28th, 2007, 11:37 AM
Is she teasing us (and Jamie) again?

Raymondo
Aug 28th, 2007, 12:28 PM
Is she teasing us (and Jamie) again?

Not at all RFS. It will be Hogmanay in Bonnie Scotland together, with Jelena pleasingly plump (Predrag's words)on Judy's home cooking and then the lovebirds will head off to Australia to play together! :lol:

RFS
Aug 28th, 2007, 12:43 PM
with Jelena pleasingly plump...
Dude - I was wondering where you were going with that sentence!!!:lol:

Just Do It
Aug 28th, 2007, 01:25 PM
I feel bad for Jamie.

Raymondo
Aug 28th, 2007, 04:05 PM
Dude - I was wondering where you were going with that sentence!!!:lol:

Nice one!

sharapovarulz1
Aug 28th, 2007, 07:11 PM
I feel bad for Jamie.


Yeah me too bless him :hug: Plus I am not a fan of Liezal Huber :mad:

~Kiera~
Aug 28th, 2007, 10:33 PM
Someone only has to mention Jamie's name and she ends up with a big smile on her face :)

http://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/interviews/2007-08-27/200708271188250766515.html (watch the video)

Cilla
Aug 29th, 2007, 12:07 AM
Not at all RFS. It will be Hogmanay in Bonnie Scotland together, with Jelena pleasingly plump (Predrag's words)on Judy's home cooking and then the lovebirds will head off to Australia to play together! :lol:
That would be nice :lol:

delicatecutter
Aug 29th, 2007, 03:04 AM
I am in a million depressions they aren't playing together at the Open!! :bigcry:

redsonja
Aug 29th, 2007, 03:31 AM
Someone only has to mention Jamie's name and she ends up with a big smile on her face :)

http://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/interviews/2007-08-27/200708271188250766515.html (watch the video)

Bless. If that's not just cute. I'm going to pretend like she picked up "living the/my dream" from Jamie, because that makes it more entertaining. :lol:

RFS
Aug 29th, 2007, 07:26 AM
Bless. If that's not just cute. I'm going to pretend like she picked up "living the/my dream" from Jamie, because that makes it more entertaining. :lol:

Bless - yes I noticed that too! And I thought exactly the same thing!

That's such a coy smile when she's saying "we're friends...having fun, enjoying.."... enjoying WHAT exactly Jelena? Enquiring minds (and incurable romantics) want to know!

RFS
Aug 29th, 2007, 07:28 AM
Jamie is on Court 7 (Match 5) with "the other woman" today to start the Mixed - strange that they haven't actually published the actual mixed draw on the website though, tsk tsk!
I am a little surprised that they didn't pick up a seeding!

Raymondo
Aug 29th, 2007, 10:34 AM
That's such a coy smile when she's saying "we're friends...having fun, enjoying.."... enjoying WHAT exactly Jelena? Enquiring minds (and incurable romantics) want to know!


Oh, come on RFS, there has to be an element of mystery. Some things have to be left unsaid don't they? ... just hinted at?

RFS
Aug 29th, 2007, 10:39 AM
Oh, come on RFS, there has to be an element of mystery. Some things have to be left unsaid don't they? ... just hinted at?

Chuckle... oh ok then! Just living my life vicariously through romantic young things!

There was a funny piece at the end of Mark Petchey's ineterview with a fidgety Andy Murray where he was dissing Jamie's dress sense... something about him going out in Montreal with a Top Hat (yeah... really!!??) and a purple waistcoat!

Just get a HAIR CUT Jamie! Not even the buzz cut (which I happen to think is mighty fine)... just a bit of a hedge-trim would suffice!

I wonder whether Sky/Eurosplot will actually show the Huber/Murray match?

~Kiera~
Aug 29th, 2007, 08:17 PM
http://www.postbulletin.com/newsmanager/templates/localnews_story.asp?z=22&a=305643

U.S. Open final doubles pairings for Butorac, Murray
8/29/2007 9:13:11 AM
By Pat Ruff

Post-Bulletin, Rochester MN

Calls in the middle of the night from media. Reporters nipping at his heels as he left London's Heathrow Airport. Front-page play in the London Times.

It's been a surreal couple of months for Rochester's Eric Butorac, much of it thanks to the tennis-crazy England press and Butorac's connection to England's own Jamie Murray.

Lately the story has been Butorac's disconnect with Murray, who's been his doubles partner the last year.

Butorac, 26, and Murray, 21, enjoyed a supersonic rise in the tennis world since becoming partners in February. That included Butorac going from the 80th-ranked doubles player in the world, to his current ranking of 35th, and Murray rising from 200th to 30th. It also included Butorac and Murray combining to win three ATP tournament titles, and even more impressively, reaching the Round of 16 at Wimbledon.

So, three weeks ago when Butorac innocently mentioned on his Web site that the Butorac/Murray doubles relationship would end following a U.S. Open Tournament that began this week in New York, it registered as nothing short of a bombshell across the pond.

Ring, ring, ring. Ring, ring, ring. Ring, ring, ring. That was Butorac's cell phone getting a workout in the middle of the night, shortly after he'd posted that bit of breakup news on Bootyandstretch.com. The same England press that had hounded Butorac and Murray throughout their Wimbledon run, then followed Butorac with more questions on his way out of Heathrow Airport following the tournament, took a nanosecond to discover his Web site posting. It was daytime in England when they found out, but the middle of the night where Butorac was now, back home in the United States.

Yeah, they care about their doubles tennis in England. And they sure care about this guy Murray.

"The London Times called me, the London Herald." Butorac said, "They all called me in the middle of the night wanting a comment about why we were breaking up. It was crazy. My Web site had over 200,000 hits the day I announced our split up."

Pressure on Murray

So what did happen? How could a doubles combo seemingly this hot and this up-and-coming suddenly decided enough is enough?

Well, for the record, Butorac was and is not in favor of splitting. That decision came from Murray. After the two cooled in their success following Wimbledon, failing to win any ATP events, Butorac says the outside pressure on Murray to continue his rise in the rankings has been too much. The England press, he notes, has turned it into a big deal anytime Butorac and Murray don't make a major splash in a tournament.

All if it, Butorac reasons, has turned him into the fall guy, that somehow he is holding Murray back from reaching even grander heights. He doesn't see it that way. But Murray apparently has bought into some of that.

"There has been a lot of tension between us and it's caused a lot of stress," Butorac said. "But I have to realize there is a lot of pressure on him. I have to realize that he is only 21 and representing a country where he is the No. 1 doubles player, a Davis Cup player, and I am from a country where as a doubles player I fly way under the radar.

"We are trying to work through it as we get ready now to play in the U.S. Open. Maybe we'll have a good result at the Open and we'll change our minds about breaking up."

Butorac and Murray begin U.S. Open play this week. They enter as one of the top teams in the field, seeded 16th. Sixty-four doubles teams will participate. Butorac/Murray have been automatic qualifiers to all four of tennis' major events this year, having already played in the Australian Open, the French Open and Wimbledon.

As much stress as his relationship with Murray has caused him recently, Butorac -- who will team with Australia's Todd Perry post-U.S. Open -- is still relishing the moment. This is his first U.S. Open, and it happens to be his favorite of the Grand Slams.

"It is the exact opposite of Wimbledon, where everything is so classic," Butorac said. "Here, music is blaring, you've got instant replays, and everything is so colorful and bright and exciting. It's so American."

swordfire
Aug 29th, 2007, 08:19 PM
Just get a HAIR CUT Jamie! Not even the buzz cut (which I happen to think is mighty fine)... just a bit of a hedge-trim would suffice!
Oh dear lord, so much word on that. If there's anything that would turn Jelena off it's his stupid hair. PLEASE JAMIE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, sort it out!

Raymondo
Aug 29th, 2007, 08:36 PM
From Kiera's quote:

"Butorac's connection to England's own Jamie Murray"

On no account should this article be shown to Judy Murray!

RFS
Aug 29th, 2007, 08:50 PM
"It was me who brought up the idea of splitting up but I was still shocked when he said let's do it'," reveals Butorac.

Well, for the record, Butorac was and is not in favor of splitting.
Christ on a bike Booty ... make your mind up???!!!
Even JJ isn't mucking Jamie about like this!!!

I think Booty may well be a perfectly personable chap... but I think he's realising that Louis Cayer has invested in Jamie... not him, and that the split will mean that he won't also be getting the benefit of that coaching...
And yes - right now - with James Auckland out in the Mens Doubles... all potential Doubles glory now rests firmly on Jamie's shoulders.

I am less and less impressed with Booty and more and more in favour of Jamie forming an allegiance with a former World No 1 player who obviously recognises the potential in this 21 year old hair-bear!

"Butorac's connection to England's own Jamie Murray"

On no account should this article be shown to Judy Murray!
HEE!!!

Cilla
Aug 30th, 2007, 01:53 AM
Jamie & Liezel just won 7-6, 7-6 :yeah:

RFS
Aug 30th, 2007, 06:55 AM
Jamie & Liezel just won 7-6, 7-6 :yeah:

Great stuff... and they rolled the No. 4 seeds too - think that's a promising enough start!

He has his first round match with Booty today, so hopefully he can show the same tenacity!

RFS
Aug 30th, 2007, 07:12 AM
Aww bless - they have Jelena following Jamie on Court 8 today for the Women's doubles!

predrag
Aug 30th, 2007, 11:23 AM
http://www.blackandhuber.com/blog.htm

I am playing with Jamie Murray from England. When he speaks he doesn't sound like he is from England. I mean people confuse me with my accent being from England...and Jamie and I don't sound anything alike...I think he has a Scottish accent!!! Very strong and I have to pay very close attention when he is saying something! Seriously though, we had a lot of fun and he is a terrific partner. Not just a great player, but fun to play with! We beat the number 4 seeds Mara Santangelo and Paul Hanley 7-6,7-6.

RFS
Aug 30th, 2007, 11:30 AM
http://www.blackandhuber.com/blog.htm

HEE! Judy will be having a fit - that's twice Jamie's been tagged as being English... he has a kind of hybrid US/Scottish twang - not quite as drawly as Andy's but a lot softer I think!

Well it's good to see he's equally good fun to play with for Liezel... I was wondering how that dynamic would work as Black/Huber will have been knocking around the locker rooms in Wimbly at the same time as Jelena so they MUST have been aware of the hubbub!

Raymondo
Aug 30th, 2007, 11:44 AM
Aww bless - they have Jelena following Jamie on Court 8 today for the Women's doubles!

I thought she was focusing solely on the singles. Why choose to play Women's doubles (with a pretty useless partner) over Mixed? :confused:

RFS
Aug 30th, 2007, 11:57 AM
I thought she was focusing solely on the singles. Why choose to play Women's doubles (with a pretty useless partner) over Mixed? :confused:

Over on the Jelena News and Articles thread we all had much the same debate. Would appear our JJ may see this as extra practice, and the hope is they won't go as deep as maybe JJ/JM would have done in the Mixed.

It would probably be much less newsworthy for JJ to drop from the WD if she progresses comfortably through the WS draw, whereas if she were to drop Jamie mid-stream in the Mixed, the resulting press distraction probably wouldn't help? Speculation I guess... but that seems to be the most reasonable spin.

In 2 pressers, she's been asked directly about Jamie...
Hopefully as she progresses through the rounds, that will give way to discussion about her chances for the Singles title.
But I doubt it...

I also think that Booray are going to get it in the neck if they progress well re: split... and that will detract from their potential success!

~Kiera~
Aug 30th, 2007, 12:41 PM
Aww bless - they have Jelena following Jamie on Court 8 today for the Women's doubles!

Is someone on the scheduling staff a JJ/JM fan? :lol:

Raymondo
Aug 30th, 2007, 01:00 PM
It would probably be much less newsworthy for JJ to drop from the WD if she progresses comfortably through the WS draw, whereas if she were to drop Jamie mid-stream in the Mixed, the resulting press distraction probably wouldn't help? Speculation I guess... but that seems to be the most reasonable spin.

Guess you're right. Another question: so, in the players' lounge, there is Jelena sitting alone at one table and Liezel, sitting alone at another. Who does the boy sit with? This is getting tricky isn't it?

~Kiera~
Aug 30th, 2007, 01:07 PM
If he knows what's good for him, he sits with Jelena ;)

RFS
Aug 30th, 2007, 01:08 PM
Guess you're right. Another question: so, in the players' lounge, there is Jelena sitting alone at one table and Liezel, sitting alone at another. Who does the boy sit with? This is getting tricky isn't it?

Chuckle! Well Huber (in her blog) said that Jamie was great fun to play with... so there's competition there already!

If i was him, I'd take me packet of sandwiches... sit in the middle and let them fight over him!

Ian Aberdon
Aug 30th, 2007, 01:54 PM
Sit Jamie in the middle, they have a "Tug o' Hair" contest over him!

ps. Hello everyone, another UK-Jelena supporter has arrived!!! :-)

Richard

RFS
Aug 30th, 2007, 02:19 PM
Hee another Brit who's adopted Jelena! Welcome...Ian/Richard!
And amen to that hair... haven't seen any recent pics of him from USO... I am... ever hopeful that there is going to be slightly less of him than before...but I'm not betting my house on it!

As we get closer to Booty & Stretch-ville - I really REALLY hope they start well today!

RFS
Aug 30th, 2007, 02:23 PM
Oh Jelena... there's competition alright....
http://sport.scotsman.com/tennis.cfm?id=1379522007
Murray's brother Jamie is also in action later today in the first round of the men's doubles.

Along with American partner Eric Butorac, he'll take on German double-act Tomas Behrend and Florian Mayer.

Murray and new partner Liezl Huber won their first ever mixed doubles match last night with a surprise victory over fourth seeds Mara Santangelo and Paul Hanley.

The fledgling double act were twice dragged to tie-breaks before sealing their second-round place 7-6 (7-3), 7-6 (7-5).

"It was a close match but we're delighted to be through," said Murray.

"They were seeded fourth and this was our first match together. We've gelled really quickly and that's very encouraging."

Ian Aberdon
Aug 30th, 2007, 02:54 PM
JJ, get that lipgloss on, quick!!

Richard.

Raymondo
Aug 30th, 2007, 03:42 PM
"A surprise victory"????? No great surprise to us...:)

Hi to Richard.

swordfire
Aug 30th, 2007, 04:03 PM
Oh Jamie. Don't you know the polite thing to do is to lose early? What's all this 'knocking out the number 4 seeds'? JJ won't be happy...:D

redsonja
Aug 30th, 2007, 04:13 PM
Hey now, she turned him down, what's he supposed to do, throw the match because she said she was busy playing singles or washing her hair or something? :lol:

Anyway, Liezel's married, no need to be jealous of anything but Jamie's ability to be successful with other people. :D

RFS
Aug 30th, 2007, 04:35 PM
Hey now, she turned him down, what's he supposed to do, throw the match because she said she was busy playing singles or washing her hair or something? :lol:


Well yes... doesn't her movie script say that the guy shall pine away for the heroine, until she comes back to him ... possibly in Australia?
Destiny and all that?

Raymondo
Aug 30th, 2007, 04:36 PM
Hey now, she turned him down, what's he supposed to do, throw the match because she said she was busy playing singles or washing her hair or something? :lol:

Anyway, Liezel's married, no need to be jealous of anything but Jamie's ability to be successful with other people. :D

She will still be jealous. For sure. She's gonna regret not giving him those many, many kisses... :)

RFS
Aug 30th, 2007, 05:11 PM
Nahhh - she just needs to match the courtesy kisses Liezel gives him, off court!
Potential for at least 10 with 5 rounds... still more if you add the Booty and Stretch matches into the mix (not that Booty gives Stretch a peck when they finish... a thump more like at the moment!)

RFS
Aug 31st, 2007, 12:17 AM
ok ... so "many many" kisses count so far - JJ owes JM 4... 2 for the MxD win and 2 for the MD win.... pucker up baby!!

downunderfan
Aug 31st, 2007, 11:04 AM
Welcome, Richard! :wavey:

Jamie doing really well and the little bro too, so I suppose you Brits are happy - hope I don't jinx. :) As for the kisses, I'm really missing British journalists and tabloids - we're not getting much interesting info off court in NY - except for Serena/Venus/Maria... :help:

RFS
Aug 31st, 2007, 05:16 PM
Well I have had a peruse of a tabloid (ick... I don't normally go near them!) and it was all about football - beckham's crocked knee and McClaren's crocked England side in general... A tiny section on Andy, a small strip on Timmykins and nothing on Jamie who's alive and kicking in not one, but TWO slam events!
Now that's what I call under-the-radar!

Raymondo
Aug 31st, 2007, 06:43 PM
Surely the Serbian tabloids must have something to say about Jelena not playing mixed with Jamie?

~Kiera~
Sep 1st, 2007, 04:05 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/6973607.stm

Murray and Butorac out of US Open

Murray and Butorac will now go their separate ways
Jamie Murray and Eric Butorac's last tournament togather ended in a disappointing second-round defeat at the US Open.
Murray, Britain's number one doubles player, and his American partner lost 7-5 6-3 to Amer Delic and Justin Gimelstob of the United States.

Murray, 21, and Butorac won three titles together but the pair have won only two matches since Wimbledon.

The Briton is still in the mixed doubles with Liezel Huber

RFS
Sep 1st, 2007, 07:26 AM
Murray, 21, and Butorac won three titles together but the pair have won only two matches since Wimbledon.

Blimey... that really puts it into perspective... 2 wins since Wimbles!

Such a shame for them, but I suspect that maybe it is for the best.
Wish Booty luck - I think he's going on to partner Ross Hutchins, another young and potentially up and coming player, and I hope that Jamie gels really well with Leander Paes and that has a run of good results with him to help push him forward.

Time for JJ to console him I think...

Ian Aberdon
Sep 1st, 2007, 07:39 AM
So has anyone seen them together in NY? Or heard about them getting together?

I assume going from what I've read before that they do phone/text each other.

Would love it if someone somewhere got a pic! But I think J'n'J are well aware of that!!

predrag
Sep 1st, 2007, 10:32 AM
Jamie is again with a partner who goes out early in other competition.

http://www.blackandhuber.com/blog.htm

I am still playing mixed doubles here. It's been a disappointing result for us today, so I will be trying to make up for that in the mixed. I remember one year at Wimbledon Laura Montalvo and I lost 1st or 2nd round. Tony sat me down and said that I would feel a lot better if I have a good mixed results. He said it would take away the pain. Mike Bryan and I made it to my first Grand Slam finals! The pain was less...
So that's my plan of action :-)

Tennis-Chick
Sep 1st, 2007, 03:15 PM
Booty and Stretch :sad:
I really thought they would have won this match, damn I'm so sad I love these guys! It will be so weird next year when they come back to Wimbledon with different partners. I really hope Booty can form a great partnership with someone.

RFS
Sep 1st, 2007, 03:57 PM
Some pics of Jamie on the MTF..
Still with the hair... sigh!
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=87385&page=33

Ian Aberdon
Sep 1st, 2007, 04:36 PM
Can't he afford to get it cut at some NY barber?

Perhaps he has pledged to Jelena that he WON'T get it cut until they play with each other again? As it were........

RFS
Sep 1st, 2007, 05:00 PM
Richard - you would THINK wouldn't you... he can buy a purple waistcoat and ponce about Montreal in a top hat, but hair cut... NOOOOO!

RFS
Sep 1st, 2007, 05:35 PM
So has anyone seen them together in NY? Or heard about them getting together?

I assume going from what I've read before that they do phone/text each other.

Would love it if someone somewhere got a pic! But I think J'n'J are well aware of that!!

She said in one interview that she'd seen him around, and they were friends and just having fun and enjoying ... well she didn't really say WHAT they were enjoying, but I guess we'll have to see whether they crop up on each other's courts when the other is playing!
Recently they've played on the same day/straight after each other, so... if she's snapped watching Liezel and Jamie later today.......

downunderfan
Sep 2nd, 2007, 12:29 AM
Well, Jamie and Liezel are doing fine, through to 3rd round. Well done!! :worship:

sharapovarulz1
Sep 2nd, 2007, 01:15 AM
Well, Jamie and Liezel are doing fine, through to 3rd round. Well done!! :worship:

Yup well done indeed :D

Raymondo
Sep 2nd, 2007, 04:38 PM
Liezel Huber has written about the latest win in her blog. She was very sorry they won.... Can you believe it? http://www.blackandhuber.com/blog.htm


Jamie Murray and I won 7-5,6-4. It was a bittersweet victory....

You see, we beat Paola Saurez and Kevin Ullyet. Kevin and I have played a lot of mixed together and most recently, Wimbledon. We grew up together and are good friends. We'd rather cheer for one another and not have to play against each other! What was even more emotional was that Paola would announce her retirement here at the USOpen. I had no idea until just before the match. When we had our first match point I found myself getting teary-eyed. Then Jamie missed the ball and it was my turn to return. I told myself to try and stay focused. Unfortunately we won the point and that was the last point of Paola's tennis career... She will be missed! She is one of the nicest girls and a true champion and great ambassador! (and of course one of the best doubles players of all times!) We had champagne and a little get together for her on the court afterwards. The crowd stayed and cheered and she deserves it! Paola, we wish you all the best for the rest of your life and you will be missed by so many!

predrag
Sep 3rd, 2007, 12:11 AM
http://www.blackandhuber.com/blog.htm

Jamie Murray and I hit today for 45 minutes. We don't have opponents yet, they only play late today. He is a great player and of course a very nice young man. It's a lot of fun playing with him. He says that I am too serious and never smile. I guess I never realized that, I am just trying to play very hard and win! Tomorrow I will try and smile more Jamie!

Ian Aberdon
Sep 3rd, 2007, 07:36 AM
So no "kisses all over", no smiles. LH obviously realises that JJ is the only one for JM!! And of course LH happens to be married!

~Kiera~
Sep 3rd, 2007, 01:54 PM
From the Herald (Monday Sport)

Scot remains cautious

IF Jamie Murray is now dreaming of picking up a second consecutive grand slam title in mixed doubles then he is not saying so, writes Kate Kirwan.

Murray and new partner Leizel Huber are through to the quarter-finals of the US Open but the Scot says a repeat of his Wimbledon victory with Jelena Jankovic is still a long way off.

“Hopefully,we can go further. I’ll just see how it goes, take it one match at a time – but it’s tough – I still think it’s a bit of a lottery as to what can happen out there,” said 21-year-old Murray.

However circumspect the Scot is, there is no question that he and Huber make a formidable partnership. The South African-born American is a world-class doubles player in her own right and was a finalist in mixed doubles at the 2005 Australian Open with Kevin Ullyett.

Cat123
Sep 3rd, 2007, 02:22 PM
I'm not daring to hope!!! At Wimbledon there was no expectation on him. It was all fun and games until match point in the semis when you could see on their faces that the nerves set in. It would be fantastic if Jamie & Liezel won, but I'm not going to jinx it in any way!

swordfire
Sep 3rd, 2007, 05:12 PM
Arg. The thought of Jamie winning without Jelena makes me sad. But then, if he wins it'll be completely awesome and thus, will make me less sad.

I should really just not think about it.

GO JAMIE!

ahem

downunderfan
Sep 3rd, 2007, 11:52 PM
Jamie and Liezel looking comfortable vs. Radwanska/Fyrstenberg, it may well be Jamie's second GS title here. I don't want to jinx, it would be nice for them to win, especially if Jelena can go couple of steps further, too. ;) :)

Cat123
Sep 4th, 2007, 12:28 AM
Into the semis in 52 minutes. Not bad, not bad at all. 6-1 6-2, easy!

I like your reasoning swordfire, I agree. Would be awesome. And might convince Jelena to play with him again ;)

Cilla
Sep 4th, 2007, 12:34 AM
Easy victory :worship: Keep going :hug:

Cat123
Sep 4th, 2007, 12:41 AM
Tough opponents next round, I hope they can do it!

sharapovarulz1
Sep 4th, 2007, 01:32 AM
Bless Jamie in to the Semi finals with Liezel it would be great if he won another grand slam shame it's without Jelena but non the less I would be proud of him and so would Britain :) And I am pretty sure Jelena would be proud!!!

~Kiera~
Sep 4th, 2007, 02:29 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/6977223.stm

Murray reaches mixed semi-finals

Britain's Jamie Murray and American partner Liezel Huber cruised into the semi-finals of the mixed doubles at the US Open on Monday.
Wimbledon champion Murray and world doubles number one Huber were far too strong for Poland's Agnieska Radwanska and Mariusz Fyrstenberg.

Murray - who partnered Jelena Jankovic at Wimbledon - and Huber won 6-1 6-2.

They will face American Meghann Shaughnessy and Leander Paes of India in the last four.

Murray told BBC Radio 5live: "It couldn't have gone any better. We played very well and dominated from start to finish and now for the semi-final.

"We played well today. We were both very sharp at the net."

And talking of her new partner, Huber said: "He's great - I wouldn't say it if I didn't think so and he deserves all the success he has achieved so far and will achieve.

"I'm not trying to think about it (our partnership) too much. We just kind of play our game and go about our ways and I listen to Jamie although he is younger.

"Normally I take the lead out there but he takes the lead and makes me comfortable and confident. We have fun out there also."

~Kiera~
Sep 4th, 2007, 09:21 AM
http://www.lta.org.uk/Newsroom/GeneralNews/GeneralNews2007/070904USOpen.htm?BSMGuid=49f3e6af-6983-4ffe-aebf-02616f348d0f

Murray cruises into US Open mixed doubles semis

Jamie Murray remains on course to win his second major title in as many Grand Slam tournaments with the 21-year-old Scot and his newly American naturalised partner Liezel Huber just one match away from the US Open mixed doubles final.

On Tuesday they take on Leander Paes, ironically the player Murray will play men’s doubles alongside in the upcoming Asian tournaments in Bangkok and Beijing, and American Meghann Shaugnessy in the semi-final and the pair will be looking to maintain the almost immediate understanding they have struck.

Murray and Huber registered their third straight sets win as many matches to completely outplay the Polish duo of Agnieszka Radwanska and Mariusz Fyrstenberg 6-1, 6-2 with a brand of aggressive and polished doubles tennis.

Just two days earlier Radwanska was producing the shock of the tournament to eliminate defending champion Maria Sharapova from the women’s singles. Her path in that competition came to an end at the hands of Israel’s 18th seed Shahar Peer and the relentless superiority of Murray and Huber meant it became a miserable day for the teenager from Krackow.

And Huber revealed that one of the biggest motivations for the pair is to make up for their disappointments in their own doubles competition. Huber and Cara Black were seeded No.1 in the women’s doubles but lost in the second round to the Argentine pairing of Maria Elena Camerin and Gisela Dulko.

Meanwhile in the men’s doubles Murray’s last alliance with Eric Butorac also ended in the second round against Justin Gimelstob and Amer Delic of the United States. “We are both pretty upset with our results in doubles and it eases the pain to do well in the mixed,” said Huber.

Murray is clearly maturing into one of the most accomplished and gregarious doubles players on the circuit. Although it appears he has simply taken up with Huber where he left off with Jelena Jankovic in winning the Wimbledon title, he maintains the partnerships are very different.

“Liezel likes to come to the net and volley whereas Jelena prefers to stay at the back of the court and hit. I guess they have both worked out pretty well so far,” said Murray.

“She’s been around longer than me and played at a high level longer than I have so the experience is certainly helping me.”

Report by Barry Flatman in New York

Raymondo
Sep 4th, 2007, 10:43 AM
Thanks for the articles Sarah. Mmm ... Liezel seems to be appreciating Jamie more and more with each match. She may not want to let go!

sharapovarulz1
Sep 4th, 2007, 12:24 PM
She should be appeciating him straight away he is a fantastic doubles player :)

Cat123
Sep 4th, 2007, 02:35 PM
From Liezel's blog yesterday:

Today was great! Jamie, my mixed partner, was on fire (and maybe I was a little bit too) :-) We beat the Polish duo that Cara had lost to in their first mixed match. Cara, I got them back for you! It seemed like we couldn't put a foot wrong. We broke them both and held convincingly to make it a quick 61 62 victory! We are now in the semifinals. What is bizarre is that we are on the schedule tomorrow. It's a Thursday final I just found out, so now it makes sense. We play in the late afternoon against Shaughnessy and Paes. Hopefully we can play as well as we did today and then it will make for a good match!

swordfire
Sep 4th, 2007, 03:02 PM
Into the semis in 52 minutes. Not bad, not bad at all. 6-1 6-2, easy!

I like your reasoning swordfire, I agree. Would be awesome. And might convince Jelena to play with him again ;)

Ah, that's the plan, see. Jamie has to prove that winning Wimby wasn't a one-off and that he is Rather Good and that he is capable of winning without her. Just so that she'll see that he is good enough. And worth playing with again. And maybe she'll get slightly annoyed that he won without her.

(am I thinking about this too much??)

Anyway. Into the semis is a very good thing. Keep it going, yeah? :D

Raymondo
Sep 4th, 2007, 03:28 PM
Jamie has to prove that winning Wimby wasn't a one-off and that he is Rather Good

I think she knows already that he is Rather Good and Rather Funny. I think they will both be fighting over him come Australia. ;)

redsonja
Sep 4th, 2007, 03:34 PM
Although it appears he has simply taken up with Huber where he left off with Jelena Jankovic in winning the Wimbledon title, he maintains the partnerships are very different.
No comment. :tape:

Good for Jamie and Liezel! I love how she keeps referring to him as "a very nice young man," like she's a friend of his mom's or something. :lol: It's good for him to get experience with different kinds of players, also, it can be useful to have an older woman around for... advice. ;)

Cat123
Sep 4th, 2007, 03:41 PM
Jamie's frustrating me at the moment! It's all very well being amazing at mixed, but you only get to play it 4 times a year! He needs to find a great mens doubles partner then he can really kick some ass! I hope he does well with Leander Paes in Asia in the autumn, I like him. Although obviously I hope he loses tomorrow! ;)

sharapovarulz1
Sep 4th, 2007, 03:45 PM
No comment. :tape:

Good for Jamie and Liezel! I love how she keeps referring to him as "a very nice young man," like she's a friend of his mom's or something. :lol: It's good for him to get experience with different kinds of players, also, it can be useful to have an older woman around for... advice. ;)

As long as its only tennis experience he is getting ;) :p

Only messing! :lol:

Cilla
Sep 4th, 2007, 10:38 PM
Live coverage of the semi final on Sky :woohoo:

4-4 on serve in the 1st set.

~Kiera~
Sep 4th, 2007, 10:44 PM
I'm listening to the match on the radio.

Jamie apparently got a little too "excited" during one point :lol: :unsure:

Cilla
Sep 4th, 2007, 11:04 PM
Yeah, they were really unlucky with that call. Huber hit a great winner. I feel the ump was too fussy :rolleyes: No matter, they take the 1st set on a TB :banana: It's so strange watching the difference between Jamie & Huber/Jelena :lol: Huber's face is like a stone most of the time :lol: which makes me miss the humour of Murkovic :sobbing: :p

redsonja
Sep 4th, 2007, 11:06 PM
Has Liezel put flowers in her hair and/or braided it? If not, it can never be the same. :sobbing: :p :lol:

~Kiera~
Sep 4th, 2007, 11:22 PM
I'm curious to see how their chemistry and interaction matches up. Hopefully, I'll get to see one of their matches.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/tennis/article2387928.ece

No chance of love match for Murray Sr
Neil Harman, Tennis Correspondent, in New York

Just in case the rumours began to spread – remember Jelena Jankovic and the “was she quite keen/very keen/a little too keen on Jamie Murray” during their mixed doubles extravaganza at Wimbledon – Liezel Huber was accompanied by Tony, her husband, into one of the more intimate press interview rooms at Flushing Meadows. Murray’s new partner was taking no chances.

Late last night, Murray and Huber were contesting the US Open mixed doubles semi-final against Leander Paes, of India, and Meghann Shaughnessy, of the United States, in the hope of securing what would, for Murray, be an extraordinary achievement of reaching consecutive grand-slam tournament finals. Whatever the outcome, Andy’s big brother has to be the sport’s most eligible team-mate.

Huber made her move during the New Haven tournament that immediately preceded the US Open. Having split after Wimbledon from Kevin Ullyett, of Zimbabwe, a partner with whom she had reached the 2005 Australian Open final, Huber was seeking someone who would offer her a genuine chance of winning the title – “because I would not enter any event unless I thought I could win,” she said.

Despite the exclamation surrounding Murray’s Wimbledon success with Jankovic, it was akin to a blind date because Huber had never seen him play. “It is always pot luck in the mixed and I was scared because I know I’m a very consistent player and, in the mixed, you have to play as an individual and hope it works as a team,” Huber, who reached a career-high No 2 in doubles on the Sony Ericsson WTA Tour last month, said.

“I just told Jamie that I can play as well as I can and we can lose and I can play as badly as I can and we can lose. In mixed, it is totally up to the man.”

“Yeah, no pressure,” he replied. “But there is no doubt that he deserves everything he is going to get from this sport,” she said, “because he is a great player who will, I believe, reach the top ten in doubles. He is a leftie, which helps, but it is not just the strokes, it is about attitude, being confident, about being right mentally, it’s the whole package.”

Murray and Huber were in perfect harmony during their 6-1, 6-2 quarter-final victory over the Polish pair, Agnieszka Radwanska and Mariusz Fyrstenberg, which was marked by the Scot’s brilliance at the net with his sharp angled volleys and deft interceptions and the solidity of Huber off the ground and on serve. In the mixed, if the woman serves well, her team generally win.

If the progress of Murray and Huber – who has just taken American nationality after South Africa, her birthplace, refused to send her to the 2008 Olympic Games on the grounds that she was not believed to be a credible medal prospect – was celebrated in minimalist fashion, there was wild delight at Roger Federer’s march into the men’s quarter-finals.

Cilla
Sep 4th, 2007, 11:23 PM
Has Liezel put flowers in her hair and/or braided it? If not, it can never be the same. :sobbing: :p :lol:
Unfortunately, no :lol: :p

They are a break down in the 2nd, 2-1 :fiery:

Cilla
Sep 5th, 2007, 12:04 AM
1 game away from the final!

predrag
Sep 5th, 2007, 12:09 AM
http://www.theherald.co.uk/sport/headlines/display.var.1664407.0.0.php

Scot. GSOH. Keen to settle down
September 05 2007
KATE KIRWAN

Jamie Murray blushed a little when he was asked if trying to approach a prospective new doubles partner was like having to ask someone out but it seems that finding someone to help him win more grand slam titles is turning out to be harder than he thought.

Murray is already a grand slam champion thanks to his mixed doubles victory at Wimbledon with Jelena Jankovic but he has always made it clear that he sees the meat of his career in men's doubles. His decision to split from Eric Butorac in July was undoubtedly the right one - "I just wasn't feeling it anymore," he said at the time - but as the season moves into its final phase and towards 2008, the urgency of finding a replacement will increase.

"I haven't really got anything sorted for next year," admitted Murray, who will rotate now partners for the rest of the year.

"I'm going to play Bangkok and Tokyo, then a couple of tournaments in Europe with Jordan Kerr and then maybe try and play the Masters events in Madrid and Paris with Andy Murray if our rankings are high enough to get in there."

In theory Murray should be popular with potential partners, though at this point in the season most partnerships are already settled, which means he may have to wait until the end of the year to find someone willing to make a permanent arrangement with him.

If he needs a reference, he should probably ask his current mixed doubles partner Liezel Huber, who, as World No.2 in women's doubles, knows a thing or two about pairing up and is quite a fan of his.

"He'll kick my butt any day," said South African-born Huber, who has adopted American citizenship. "He deserves the title he won at Wimbledon and he deserves even more because he is a great player; he just hasn't achieved the top 10. But I told my husband the first day, he's a top 10 player out and out.

"Him being a lefty is an advantage. I don't think it's just the strokes, because he has all the shots, it's the attitude and being confident and not being scared and going for it and having the right mentality. It's the package. People can say if somebody wins one slam then it's just one slam but this guy is on his way."

Murray may find himself alongside brother Andy when Great Britain takes on Croatia in their Davis Cup promotion tie at Wimbledon on 21-23 September, an event which will be as much about bidding farewell to Tim Henman as much as a chance to secure the nation a place in the top tier of team competition.

Playing the Murray brothers is one of the options available to captain John Lloyd but he may also opt to put Henman - who once won an Olympic silver medal in the discipline - alongside Jamie Murray.

As much as playing with his sibling for the first time in Davis Cup would be moment of history to savour, Murray is as thrilled with the prospect of playing with Henman. "It will be unbelievable to play at Wimbledon," he said. "It's Tim's last ever match and to be a part of that is a pretty amazing thing and also a chance maybe to play doubles with him as well, that's pretty special. He was always very supportive of what I was doing and he went out his way to help me and offer me some advice when I needed it."

If he does play with Henman, Murray might start gaining a reputation for being something of a black widow when it comes to doubles partners. On his Davis Cup debut in April, he partnered Greg Rusedski, who retired immediately after. If he retires Henman as well then people might start to talk.

"First Greg, and now Tim," said Murray, with a laugh.

"I'd better not play with Andy anytime soon otherwise we'll really be screwed."

Cilla
Sep 5th, 2007, 12:17 AM
They lose the 2nd set 7-5 on the TB :sad:

~Kiera~
Sep 5th, 2007, 12:25 AM
http://www.theherald.co.uk/misc/print.php?artid=1664407

Scot. GSOH. Keen to settle down

Jamie Murray blushed a little when he was asked if trying to approach a prospective new doubles partner was like having to ask someone out but it seems that finding someone to help him win more grand slam titles is turning out to be harder than he thought.

Murray is already a grand slam champion thanks to his mixed doubles victory at Wimbledon with Jelena Jankovic but he has always made it clear that he sees the meat of his career in men's doubles. His decision to split from Eric Butorac in July was undoubtedly the right one - "I just wasn't feeling it anymore," he said at the time - but as the season moves into its final phase and towards 2008, the urgency of finding a replacement will increase.

"I haven't really got anything sorted for next year," admitted Murray, who will rotate now partners for the rest of the year.

"I'm going to play Bangkok and Tokyo, then a couple of tournaments in Europe with Jordan Kerr and then maybe try and play the Masters events in Madrid and Paris with Andy Murray if our rankings are high enough to get in there."

In theory Murray should be popular with potential partners, though at this point in the season most partnerships are already settled, which means he may have to wait until the end of the year to find someone willing to make a permanent arrangement with him.

If he needs a reference, he should probably ask his current mixed doubles partner Liezel Huber, who, as World No.2 in women's doubles, knows a thing or two about pairing up and is quite a fan of his.

"He'll kick my butt any day," said South African-born Huber, who has adopted American citizenship. "He deserves the title he won at Wimbledon and he deserves even more because he is a great player; he just hasn't achieved the top 10. But I told my husband the first day, he's a top 10 player out and out.

"Him being a lefty is an advantage. I don't think it's just the strokes, because he has all the shots, it's the attitude and being confident and not being scared and going for it and having the right mentality. It's the package. People can say if somebody wins one slam then it's just one slam but this guy is on his way."

Murray may find himself alongside brother Andy when Great Britain takes on Croatia in their Davis Cup promotion tie at Wimbledon on 21-23 September, an event which will be as much about bidding farewell to Tim Henman as much as a chance to secure the nation a place in the top tier of team competition.

Playing the Murray brothers is one of the options available to captain John Lloyd but he may also opt to put Henman - who once won an Olympic silver medal in the discipline - alongside Jamie Murray.

As much as playing with his sibling for the first time in Davis Cup would be moment of history to savour, Murray is as thrilled with the prospect of playing with Henman. "It will be unbelievable to play at Wimbledon," he said. "It's Tim's last ever match and to be a part of that is a pretty amazing thing and also a chance maybe to play doubles with him as well, that's pretty special. He was always very supportive of what I was doing and he went out his way to help me and offer me some advice when I needed it."

If he does play with Henman, Murray might start gaining a reputation for being something of a black widow when it comes to doubles partners. On his Davis Cup debut in April, he partnered Greg Rusedski, who retired immediately after. If he retires Henman as well then people might start to talk.

"First Greg, and now Tim," said Murray, with a laugh.

"I'd better not play with Andy anytime soon otherwise we'll really be screwed."

Cilla
Sep 5th, 2007, 12:29 AM
They lose 10-5 on the champions TB :sobbing:

redsonja
Sep 5th, 2007, 12:29 AM
Well, that frees Jamie right up to go watch the rest of Jelena's matches. :p

~Kiera~
Sep 5th, 2007, 12:30 AM
:sad:

sharapovarulz1
Sep 5th, 2007, 12:30 AM
I think she knows already that he is Rather Good and Rather Funny. I think they will both be fighting over him come Australia. ;)

I think we know who's arms little Jamie will be running in to come the Australian open lol ;)

Cat123
Sep 5th, 2007, 12:39 AM
I'm so upset!!!! They were so close!!!!!!!!!!!!! 100 points won to 96. 4 points!!! ARGH!

Leander & Meghann are good though, relaly good! They better damn well win the tournament now!!!

~Kiera~
Sep 5th, 2007, 01:27 AM
http://communities.canada.com/MONTREALGAZETTE/blogs/opencourt/archive/2007/08/30/poor-jamie-murray.aspx

Poor Jamie Murray.

Scotland's Jamie Murray is sort of the Johnny Drama of the tour (this is an Entourage reference, so might be a bit obscure).

Jamie the older, less-accomplished brother of Andy Murray, a rising star on the ATP Tour.

But he has already had his moment in the sun - winning the mixed doubles title at Wimbledon with Jelena Jankovic of Serbia.

He confessed to a bit of a crush, too, which made for some pretty good tabloid fodder during the fortnight. And he said he had invited Jankovic home to Scotland for Christmas.

You'd think she'd sign up with him for the mixed at the U.S. Open, no?

Not. She said she was going to concentrate on the singles. But she's playing the women's doubles event with Séverine Brémond of France, even though Jankovic admits she's baked because she has simply played Waaaaaaay too much tennis this year.

Heartbroken, no doubt, Jamie Murray has soldiered on.

He's playing the mixed with Liezel Huber of South Africa, who has hardware but surely not the same appeal.

Cat123
Sep 5th, 2007, 01:38 AM
Hehe, that's a bit random! Although, why JJ entered WD if she wanted to concentrate on singles I don't know!

~Kiera~
Sep 5th, 2007, 02:00 AM
http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5hwTAB2IKWZvgNeLBS-qtIvzml7pA

Murray's US Open dreams shattered
1 hour ago

Jamie Murray's bid to reach a second consecutive grand slam mixed doubles final faltered after he and partner Liezel Huber suffered a 6-7 (4-7) 7-6 (7-5) 10-5 defeat by India's Leander Paes and American Meghann Shaughnessy in the semi-final of the US Open.

The first set followed serve until Shaughnessy conceded a mini-break and served out to claim a 1-0 lead.

Murray held the first game of the second set with a comfortable service - a feat quickly matched by Paes. But then Huber, after looking in control with her first couple of serves, surrendered a break.

Shaughnessy then nearly lost her serve as some fine returns put Murray and Huber within two shots of their own break by making it 40-40 on two occasions before eventually slipping 3-1 behind.

Murray restored some confidence with a trouble-free game to make it 3-2 and the next two went with serve before some resilient tennis from Murray in the eighth game saw the set levelled at 4-4 with one break apiece. Paes then found himself serving at 5-4 down and kept his nerve to hold with an ace.

Then despite Huber experiencing some struggles with her serve, Murray's efforts ensured they held as Shaughnessy put a return to the net before the American held to stay in the contest.

A second tie-break ensued with Shaughnessy and Paes claiming an early mini-break to go 4-1 up before the former double-faulted to offer her opponents some respite with Huber's return closing the gap further.

Huber then put the ball past Paes to level the scores and a fifth consecutive winner saw them go 5-4 up before Paes won two consecutive points on his serve for set point which he converted himself at the net to send the clash into a first to 10 tie-break.

Paes was inspired showing his class with some ferocious forehands as well as holding his nerve on serve to open up a 4-1 lead before Murray converted at the net from Huber's second serve and repeated the feat for 4-3.

Shaughnessy and Paes won the next two points, Murray responded before putting a half-volley long to go 7-4 down and Paes held two service points to bring up five match points. Huber held her first serve but Paes hit a forehand down the line to secure a place in the final.

Raymondo
Sep 5th, 2007, 10:05 AM
Jamie will need cheering up. Big time. For sure. Who will do it?

~Kiera~
Sep 5th, 2007, 01:29 PM
Some of Jamie's post match interview:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/sol/newsid_6970000/newsid_6979300/6979393.stm?bw=bb&mp=wm&news=1&ms3=6

Cat123
Sep 5th, 2007, 02:50 PM
He's all giggly and embarassed when Jelena's mentioned. Hehe.