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nouf
Jul 18th, 2007, 07:34 AM
equipe 07/18/2007
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/3449/equipe180707bartoliqt1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

sorcerer
Jul 18th, 2007, 09:18 AM
Thanks nouf :cool:

kueee
Jul 18th, 2007, 10:48 AM
Bshh if only i could speak french. Could anyone give a quick summary of the article?

Bероника
Jul 18th, 2007, 04:00 PM
merci nouf :D

sorcerer
Jul 18th, 2007, 04:20 PM
hey Veronika :wavey:

There is a summary in english on the website. ;)

Super_Marion
Jul 19th, 2007, 09:41 AM
Sorcerer, love the Wallpaper :cool: In French tricolore no less.....

souam
Jul 19th, 2007, 03:11 PM
Bshh if only i could speak french. Could anyone give a quick summary of the article?

She just feels "inner joy" and don't party around a lot what she has achieved but with her close ones. She doesn't feel bad at all and even understand the comments (spiced up by the press) about her and her father's standing toward the FC team and doesn't feel like "i told ya" either after the loss. She don't think the girls would have won with her in the team at all especially since she didn't feel ready to give her best in another big competition just after wimby and she'll restart training seriously and finding her marks again in Standford. Her objectives are to get better physically, not to injure herself since she played and will play a lot and maybe the Masters in Madrid. She says she thinks she won't play during summer to have (physical) tests. i think that pretty much sums up what she said.

;)

sharapovarulz1
Jul 19th, 2007, 10:38 PM
She just feels "inner joy" and don't party around a lot what she has achieved but with her close ones. She doesn't feel bad at all and even understand the comments (spiced up by the press) about her and her father's standing toward the FC team and doesn't feel like "i told ya" either after the loss. She don't think the girls would have won with her in the team at all especially since she didn't feel ready to give her best in another big competition just after wimby and she'll restart training seriously and finding her marks again in Standford. Her objectives are to get better physically, not to injure herself since she played and will play a lot and maybe the Masters in Madrid. She says she thinks she won't play during summer to have (physical) tests. i think that pretty much sums up what she said.

;)

Thanks so much :) :D

kueee
Jul 20th, 2007, 08:36 AM
She just feels "inner joy" and don't party around a lot what she has achieved but with her close ones. She doesn't feel bad at all and even understand the comments (spiced up by the press) about her and her father's standing toward the FC team and doesn't feel like "i told ya" either after the loss. She don't think the girls would have won with her in the team at all especially since she didn't feel ready to give her best in another big competition just after wimby and she'll restart training seriously and finding her marks again in Standford. Her objectives are to get better physically, not to injure herself since she played and will play a lot and maybe the Masters in Madrid. She says she thinks she won't play during summer to have (physical) tests. i think that pretty much sums up what she said.

;)

Thank you.

cometz9
Jul 24th, 2007, 03:52 AM
Bartoli out to prove Wimbledon was no fluke
By Matthew Cronin

STANFORD, California, July 23, (Reuters) - France's Marion Bartoli (http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/players/354/;_ylt=Anis7iyH46u7LmAksbRLtOspv7YF) is eager to prove her dream run to the Wimbledon final earlier this month was no fluke. Bartoli, 22, stunned third seed Jelena Jankovic (http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/players/404/;_ylt=Ah7Y_VfTTpX2dPOOjfhNr0gpv7YF) and world number one Justine Henin (http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/players/4218/;_ylt=AqD87sWPSzBE0rO0kWVTHe4pv7YF) at the All England Club before falling to Venus Williams (http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/players/87/;_ylt=ArT0lb5WSpRmlMm7gyidjRApv7YF) in the final as she soared to a career-high 11th in the world rankings.
The second seed at this week's Stanford Classic in California, Bartoli says she proved a lot of doubters wrong.
"Not a lot of people believed I could get there except my dad and myself, but I showed everyone that I can be one of the top players in the world," Bartoli told Reuters.
"Some (analysts) said physically Marion is not good enough and she'll never be there and I showed to everyone that they were completely wrong.
"Tatiana (Golovin) and Nathalie (Dechy) didn't reach a Grand Slam final. Amelie Mauresmo (http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/players/166/;_ylt=AoH7UsnTmTyG0hN9OK3m.TApv7YF) and Mary Pierce (http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/players/160/;_ylt=Asfc.RCCrcESDHp3nakkjhcpv7YF) did and I'm the next one. I demonstrated to everyone that I was able to be there, too."

RANKINGS RISE
Bartoli has worked her way up the rankings and ended last year at number 17 after winning three titles, but few expected her to go further than any of her countrywomen at the French Open, where she reached the fourth round, or at Wimbledon.
But with fast hands, blazing groundstrokes and a dogged determination, Bartoli overcame the inconsistent play that had plagued her in previous Grand Slams.
"You have to have a lot of belief in yourself because you have tough moments," said Bartoli, who is coached by her father, Walter.
"And you need a good dad and coach to tell you can do it. He always told me I belonged up there. When I beat Justine, I heard on the TV that I was just in the zone, but that wasn't right.
"I was playing the level that I play in practice but not always in a match."
Bartoli is very close to her father, but the relationship has cost her.

FED CUP FEUD
France's Fed Cup captain Georges Goven left her off the team that fell to Italy two weeks ago in the semi-finals because she would not participate in the tie without her father in attendance.
Goven said she would be too tired to play after her Wimbledon exertions, a reason rejected by Bartoli.
"I don't want too disturb the group, so if it's better to have four girls together than with one who is separate, it's okay."
Bartoli was hoping that after her Wimbledon run that she would have received calls of congratulations from her fellow players, but she did not.
Pierce sent her a text message, as did French president Nicolas Sarkozy, but none of the rest of her fellow players did.
"Tatiana can pass by me and not even say hello, so I'm sure she's not going to congratulate me," Bartoli said.
Bartoli received a first-round bye at Stanford and will play the winner of the match between Americans Lilia Osterloh (http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/players/676/;_ylt=Aq5wdNdxz_Aon2d2bmnThW8pv7YF) and Jill Craybas (http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/players/164/;_ylt=AgqgodQZlwKKeEAk81LRlkYpv7YF).

sharapovarulz1
Jul 24th, 2007, 05:44 PM
Cheers Cometz :)

Super_Marion
Jul 24th, 2007, 08:38 PM
Yeh I heard those "in the zone" remarks too. That wasnt in the zone... It was, in her level. She showed what she can do. The level she can play it. And there is more to come i'm sure.

Dr. Bartoli doesnt just believe that Marion deserves to be up there because he loves his daughter, but because it's TRUE.

bruce goose
Jul 25th, 2007, 01:01 AM
Sorcerer, love the Wallpaper :cool: In French tricolore no less..... So THIS is where you hang out when you're not contributing on the main site.My follow-up guess is that Lady Sovereign is NOT one of your Windsors but rather one of the bloggers here(brilliant deduction,huh?).In response to one of the other prompts,my vote is that Marion is easily the cutest of the prominent Frenchwomen(there might be some anonymous beauty who's ranked 667th or something).Sorry,Golovin,you're not REALLY French and you're apparently insecure over your natural,dark hair color while Marion wears it well,VERY well.Marion will also be the BEST Frenchwoman once she overcomes her Mauresmo nemesis(0-4 vs.).

Received some HORRIBLE news,Super M,which might sideline me,mentally,for a few days:I missed out on a teaching job at a high-quality school and this was a CRUSHING blow:sad: as I love the teaching profession--it fulfills me career-wise.In the interim,you may tell your 'cross-the-Channel buddies that there is at least one Mexican who can sing La Marseillaise and translate it into English and Spanish.Adieu! --BG

Alizé Molik
Jul 25th, 2007, 04:59 AM
bruce goose who taught you English??!!

Super_Marion
Jul 25th, 2007, 05:20 AM
Hey Bruce Goose! Welcome to the Marion forum :wavey: :)

Lady Sovereign.. Keep guessing :lol:

Sorry about the job. Try not take it too personally. Just get out there and keep looking.


funkypandaworld

bruce goose
Jul 25th, 2007, 07:25 AM
bruce goose who taught you English??!! An interesting touch you've chosen;you've got an amalgam of Alize Cornet and Alicia Molik with a displayed photo of Golovin.Cornet is the 'young pup',Tatiana is the sex kitten and Molik is the older,sly fox.Don't have any opinion on the youngster yet,'Goles' is attractive though with TOO much of that airbrushed look,but Aussie Alicia is the real prize to me.She's a 6' foot blonde who has some meat on her bones and enjoys the rugged,earthy things such as football which guys love.She probably wouldn't be self-conscious about sampling some of our Mexican food which would add some delicious curves to her too-flat backside.It's nice to see her back on tour and recovered from that ear-related virus.
To answer your question,I grew up in the States so English came naturally,and you should save your praise for someone who deserves it.Other than the pronunciation,which can be QUITE difficult if you weren't raised around it,the language isn't too hard to learn compared with others.It was good to make your acquaintance. --BG

bruce goose
Jul 25th, 2007, 07:31 AM
Hey Bruce Goose! Welcome to the Marion forum :wavey: :)

Lady Sovereign.. Keep guessing :lol:

Sorry about the job. Try not take it too personally. Just get out there and keep looking.


funkypandaworld You fooled me on that one with Lady S:confused: ...I'll guess again some other time if and when the inspiration returns. BG

Super_Marion
Jul 25th, 2007, 11:04 AM
Post 54
http://wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=307924&page=4

bruce goose
Jul 25th, 2007, 03:34 PM
Post 54
http://wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=307924&page=4 Aha,so Lady 'S' is a British rapper,is she?What with my being a country fan,you can see how she escaped my view.That hair color is so rare,and its infrequency only increases its wild,chaotic,savory flavor.However,this only counts when it's the bearer's NATURAL hue(not that LS would likely care whether it pleased me or not).As with Golovin and some others,hair color just doesn't seem so beautiful when you know it's not real.It's like an intricately-designed counterfeit bill:you observe it with curiosity for a moment but you don't consider it valuable.Marion's marvelous raven-colored crown proves that blondeness isn't vital(and this is coming from a blond guy!). --BG

Super_Marion
Jul 25th, 2007, 05:40 PM
Prescribes BG HRT.

bruce goose
Jul 25th, 2007, 06:03 PM
Prescribes BG HRT. NOW you've REALLY lost me:confused: ...'BG' is intended as either 'big' or my blogging initials,but 'HRT'?? Is this 'heart','hurt',or does it have a different meaning in Blog Code?
McEnroe once avoided a prediction in the past with the excuse that he didn't follow women's tennis closely enough to make an educated guess.His idiotic statement about Marion PROVES his ignorance but at least he was honest enough to admit it. --BG

Super_Marion
Jul 25th, 2007, 06:37 PM
Hormone Replacement Therapy Bruce Goose :lol:

Yes you're right, Big Mac had to eat his words with fries and choke a cola

bruce goose
Jul 25th, 2007, 06:50 PM
Hormone Replacement Therapy Bruce Goose :lol:

Yes you're right, Big Mac had to eat his words with fries and choke a cola Thanks,Super 'M',NEVER would've guessed that one without extensive research into abbreviations.Perhaps HRT IS appropriate for McEnroe because many Americans would say that he whined like a little girl during his playing days.While this is normal behavior for soccer players here in Mexico and abroad,it's considered embarrassing in the States for a male athlete,or ANY man,to act that way.The attitude is:either throw your fists or shut up.Mac was apparently a spoiled,wealthy child:mad: so he was accustomed to infantile tantrums. --BG

RigelMac
Jul 26th, 2007, 05:36 AM
Source: http://msn.foxsports.com/tennis/story/7060576?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=199

Bartoli's rep not keeping up with success
by Matthew Cronin



If nothing else, France's Marion Bartoli has always smacked the cover off the ball.

She's much the same off court. She stands right inside the baseline and if she's feels she's been wronged she puts two hands on the handle of her vocal cords and lets loose a screaming blast down the line.

The 22-year-old from Le Puy en Velay has always been a bit of an outsider in French tennis circles, but now that she has largely banged down the door with her stunning run to the Wimbledon final, she feels like she deserves a lot more respect: for her play, the way she goes about her career, the way she conducts herself.

So when only fellow player Mary Pierce sent her a text message after she shocked world number three Jelena Jankovic and top ranked Justine Henin before giving Venus Williams a tussle in the Wimbledon final, Bartoli was a little put off.

She knows the primary reason why: because she maintains a very tight circle around herself, with her father and coach, Walter, being the main man present in her tour life. When she's home, and that's not often, she spends time with her mother and brother.

But she doesn't socialize a lot and wants the world to understand that she and her father are partners in designing her success. So during Wimbledon, when she was asked about her availability for an upcoming Fed Cup tie against Italy, she and her father said okay — if they could come as a team.

Marion Bartoli has some Grand Slam hardware, but her fellow players aren't all rushing to congratulate her. (ADRIAN DENNIS/AFP / Getty Images)


But that's against team rules, so France Fed Cup captain Georges Goven left her off the squad, which nine days ago, fell to Italy in the semifinals.

The Bartoli drama played out through Wimbledon and into the next week.

After the world heard her grunts at the All-England Club, Bartoli returned home to sleep, to garden and to swim, but the other players didn't flood her cell phone with smiley faces. Bartoli didn't go unrecognized amongst officialdom as French president Nicolas Sarkozy and French Tennis Federation President Christian Bimes (among others) sent salutations, but Fed Cup participants Amelie Mauresmo, Tatiana Golovin and Nathalie Dechy did not, saying Bartoli should have left her father behind and stepped up for her country.

"The girls haven't been nice to me in the newspapers," Bartoli told FOXSports.com. "I feel sad they lost, but the girls were killing me, so what can I do? Tatiana was the worst. The captain said he talked with my dad before my third round match and said I would be too tired, but how did I reach the final then? He's killing me, too, and he doesn't understand my dad or my path."

Bartoli is just fine standing on her own and says she prefers a quieter lifestyle. She says she likes simple life, one that involves her parents, her brother, her cat and her flowers.

If other players don't understand how she's designed her life path and how she largely credits her father with all of successes, then so be it. She'll be respectful and polite, but doesn't need to be buddy-buddy with all of her compatriots.

"Tatiana can pass by me and not even say hello, so I'm sure she's not going to congratulate me," Bartoli said. "I understand if they don't want me on the team. I'm not irreplaceable, so I'm not angry and I don't want to attack them for that. I understand how the team doesn't like how I function with my dad and it doesn't work for the other girls. I don't want to disturb the group, so if it's better to have four girls together than with one who separate, it's okay."

What does irk Bartoli is that she's been underrated and plenty of critics have doubted her ability to become an elite player.

"Not a lot of people believed I could get there except my dad and myself, but I showed everyone that I can be one of the top players in the world," Bartoli said. "Some (analysts) said physically Marion is not good enough and she'll never be there and I showed to anyone that they were completely wrong. Tatiana and Nathalie didn't reach a Grand Slam final. Amelie and Pierce did and I'm the next one. I demonstrated to everyone that I was able to be there, too."

Perhaps it's her Monica Seles'-like style that has turned some folks off. Seles dominated the planet in the early 1990s by taking the ball on the rise and ferociously painting the lines. But she was bigger and taller than Bartoli was and had a significantly better serve. Plus, she competed like a demon.

Bartoli is moving better than she once did, but she's not that quick and often plays herself out of points. But five years into her career, she says she understands which shots to play and how to live in the moment. With as much practice as she's had, it's no wonder the 22-year-old has shot up to No. 11 in the rankings and went further at the French Open (fourth round) and Wimbledon then any of her countrywomen did.

She's played an amazing 31 tournaments over the past year, more than anyone else in the top 20, including play-aholic Jelena Jankovic.

"You have to have a lot of belief in yourself because you have tough moments," said Bartoli. "And you need a good dad and coach to tell you can do it. He always told me I belonged up there. When I beat Justine, I heard on the TV that I was just in the zone, but that wasn't right. I was playing the level that I play in practice but not always in a match I knew what I was doing each second and who I was doing it against."

Bartoli will keep grinding week in and week out because to her, pro tennis is not an assembly line. She wants to be heard from during the US Open Series and as the second seed at this week's Bank of the West Classic at Stanford, she has a terrific chance to crack the top 10 for the first time.

While at home a couple weeks ago, it was all her family could to keep her from hitting against a back wall. She lives and breathes with a racket in her hand.

"Beating two top five players in a Grand Slam changes a player, but I'm the still same person with same convictions," she said. "It's not because I'm winning that I'm happy, I'm happy because I love what I'm doing, If you are only happy after you reached the Wimbledon final, you are not going to be happy that much."

Super_Marion
Jul 26th, 2007, 09:22 AM
Such articulate and insightful words. Thanks for posting the full article.

bruce goose
Jul 26th, 2007, 06:07 PM
Such articulate and insightful words. Thanks for posting the full article. Many of the French,though not ALL of them,are a peculiar bunch,and Marion seems to be a victim of their bizarre rationale at times.For example,the French apparently hate the Americans when they ought to LOVE them if they had any knowledge of history.Had the limp-wristed Vichy cowards not been rescued by the U.S. army,Hitler might have destroyed the ENTIRE country.They sure didn't offer the Nazis much resistance,but they prefer to pretend that this giant,historical white elephant isn't in the room while they idly chat.Marion can't please EVERYone--especially if they're disconnected idiots. --BG

bruce goose
Jul 26th, 2007, 11:57 PM
THIS ONE'S FOR MARION!!....The headline reads:Sultry Sania Successfully Smacks Stanford Surprise,Sending Spoiled Smarmy Succubus(Golovin) Sadly Southward San Diego-bound.In this scenario,Mirza lays Tatiana over her knees and spanks her firmly while telling her that she should worry more about developing consistency in her OWN game instead of taking cheap shots at Marion.It was HER choke job vs. Schiavone that cost France the Fed Cup battle.Perhaps the biggest conflict for the horny,oversexed Golovin would be deciding whether she hated the subjugation of Sania's paddling or enjoyed the tingling sensation on her skinny butt.

bruce goose
Jul 29th, 2007, 03:59 AM
Prescribes BG HRT. Hey,Super 'M',we've already discussed the concept that you call 'ruthless efficiency',and this leads me to something related.I've watched a few ladies' matches where the winning player was in full control on her way to a double bagel victory when she SEEMED to let up ever so slightly in the penultimate game,then wound up with a 6-0,6-1 triumph.Though you could not absolutely PROVE that the winner gave away a 'sympathy' game,all of your instincts would tell you that this was the case.

This topic would almost never arise in the men's game because most male athletes are far less inclined to pity a beaten opponent(in MY opinion),and at the Slams TRIPLE bagels are extremely rare.Even the most intense female competitors--Navratilova,King,Graf,etc.--wouldn't think twice about blanking their foe.However,most women are more compassionate than the average guy so it's only natural for them to consider discreetly dropping one game to an overmatched adversary.The objective of the sport is to win so I don't criticize either approach,but to which group do you feel Marion belongs? --BG

Super_Marion
Jul 29th, 2007, 12:28 PM
Sounds like the old dichotomy that men are ruled by reason, and women by emotion. Is that necessarily so...

bruce goose
Jul 29th, 2007, 03:00 PM
Sounds like the old dichotomy that men are ruled by reason, and women by emotion. Is that necessarily so... No,it's NOT necessarily so as you saw from my citations above.Steffi Graf wouldn't think twice about demoralizing an opponent but I believe that both Williams girls have that compassionate,human streak despite their often-intense competitiveness.Even when they're not on one of their mental vacations and they're playing their best,I've rarely seen them double bagel their helpless victims.They always seem to drop at least one game before reverting to winning form.
'RULED' is too strong of a word,Super 'M';I would say that 'guided' is a better choice.As for exceptions,I've met some lovely,analytical women who'd set Mr.Spock's Vulcan heart to racing,and also some guys who had the personalities of adolescent girls.YOU AVOIDED MY QUESTION,THOUGH!:mad: :) Is Marion a ruthless conquistador-ess or is she of the gentler variety? --BG

Super_Marion
Jul 30th, 2007, 04:41 PM
"Guided," lol equivocation Mr. Goose?

If academic results are anything to go by then, females are a little more guided by reason than males. I cant speak for America, but in UK girls out-perform boys accross virtually every subject, including the sciences.

"ConquistadorESS" lol.. serendipitous dreams

bruce goose
Jul 30th, 2007, 05:40 PM
"Guided," lol equivocation Mr. Goose?

If academic results are anything to go by then, females are a little more guided by reason than males. I cant speak for America, but in UK girls out-perform boys accross virtually every subject, including the sciences.

"ConquistadorESS" lol.. serendipitous dreams Glad you enjoyed my feminization of the word 'conquistador',but you STILL haven't answered my question with regard to Marion:mad: :) .Do you think that she's prone to let up a bit if the other gal is serving at 0-6,0-5,or is she an annihilat-'ress'? Ha! There's another one.:lol:
SURELY you'd agree that a RULER is typically more powerful than a mere GUIDE,and I was only trying to be polite in relating a woman's emotionally-charged nature.Being emotional doesn't automatically mean that you're an irrational ninny,but plenty of gals DO fit that profile.We love you women as you are,though;in Marion's tongue:vive la difference!
As for academics,spokesmen for public education in the U.S. and Mexico tend to be gutless types who are afraid of angering militant feminists.The more candid ones will tell you that,EAST of Britain at least,women are tops in the arts,languages and 'liberal' sciences(biology,anthropology,'psychology'--which is a borderline science,etc.),while men do better with math,history and the more rigid sciences(physics,chemistry,astronomy,etc.).

bruce goose
Jul 30th, 2007, 05:48 PM
"Guided," lol equivocation Mr. Goose?

If academic results are anything to go by then, females are a little more guided by reason than males. I cant speak for America, but in UK girls out-perform boys accross virtually every subject, including the sciences.

"ConquistadorESS" lol.. serendipitous dreams Ha! Look at you,Super 'M',you got me so intellectually aroused that I temporarily forgot that the Americas are WEST of the UK--unless you go around the LONG way;) . --BG

Super_Marion
Jul 30th, 2007, 06:55 PM
mmkaaaay.

I Answered it.

bruce goose
Jul 30th, 2007, 07:39 PM
mmkaaaay.

I Answered it. Oh,you evasive females,you!;) ...with my lack of clairvoyance,I'll take that one as a 'YES'.Your sassy 'mmkaaaay' left a smile on my face that has yet to disappear and will probably return every time I see it.

By the way,it looks like Golovin trampily seduced a tournament official,THEN selected Marion's place in the draw.Her first opponent will either be Nakamura,who gave her a fierce battle in last year's Tokyo final,or Sequera--from tennis powerhouse Venezuela--who has beaten Marion in their only meeting(albeit FOUR years ago).This is where you may reference various quotes from famous generals who taught that fighting brilliance can only be honed by fierce competition...you intriguing,sassy Brit!:worship: --BG

nouf
Jul 31st, 2007, 08:07 AM
equipe scan 31 juillet 2007 source www.tennisvideos.fr
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/6929/equipe31bartolizi9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

bruce goose
Jul 31st, 2007, 08:20 AM
equipe scan 31 juillet 2007 source www.tennisvideos.fr
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/6929/equipe31bartolizi9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Believe it or not,even a simple Mexican like myself can actually remember enough French from my 'lycee' years to follow along with the article.'Merci' for thinking of me and hasta luego,amigo! --BG

bruce goose
Aug 1st, 2007, 01:11 AM
"Guided," lol equivocation Mr. Goose?

If academic results are anything to go by then, females are a little more guided by reason than males. I cant speak for America, but in UK girls out-perform boys accross virtually every subject, including the sciences.

"ConquistadorESS" lol.. serendipitous dreams DEFINITELY no equivocation on THIS one,Super 'M'...Marion kicked Nakamura's ass in the second set and she has thoroughly spanked both of her potential,round-of-16 opponents this year. --BG

nouf
Aug 2nd, 2007, 06:10 AM
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/9531/equipe2aoutbartolivk3.th.jpg (http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=equipe2aoutbartolivk3.jpg)

bruce goose
Aug 2nd, 2007, 11:15 AM
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/9531/equipe2aoutbartolivk3.th.jpg (http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=equipe2aoutbartolivk3.jpg) Let me remind you,'Nouf',although you don't have to worry about ME,some Mexicans don't like the French too much.Your Emperor Napoleon III invaded our country about 150 years ago and installed a very arrogant man named Maximilian as ruler here.Surprisingly,it was the Americans who helped us re-gain our independence from France;this is known as the 'Cake War' in our culture.Speaking of 'cake',Marion's match with the beautiful Dementieva will be a "piece of cake" if she focuses intently. --BG

bruce goose
Aug 2nd, 2007, 07:34 PM
You female Marion fans will have to forgive us guys because it's nearly impossible to hate Elena D.;she's SOOOOO darned beautiful.Nevertheless,I wish that she could've beaten someone OTHER than Marion and am somewhat surprised since our girl had completely paddled Elena in their two previous matches this year.Marion will have to step it up a bit if she wants to crack the top ten. --BG

Super_Marion
Aug 3rd, 2007, 12:59 PM
hm

bruce goose
Aug 3rd, 2007, 03:54 PM
hm Well,well,well...I hope that it wasn't too physically or emotionally taxing for you to type that commentary.Being an ignorant Mexican,I'm also not sure whether you meant the standard interjection 'hmmmmm...' or some sort of lowercase abbreviation(you've already caught me off-guard with 'HRT').
If it's not too strenuous for you,perhaps you could share your opinions on both C.S.Lewis and Marion.Your British cohort has definitely challenged me on a fundamental human level,and I'm curious as to your thoughts on Marion's health.Is she still troubled slightly by the injury that impaired her vs. Osterloh at Stanford?If so,then she might need to recuperate a bit before she enters the Gringo Open. --BG

Super_Marion
Aug 4th, 2007, 10:50 PM
CS Lewis? What's he got to do with it?? lol...

He wrote the Narnia books and Screwtape letters. That's about all I know.

The injury situation. Yes, it's on my mind too.

bruce goose
Aug 4th, 2007, 11:27 PM
CS Lewis? What's he got to do with it?? lol...

He wrote the Narnia books and Screwtape letters. That's about all I know.

The injury situation. Yes, it's on my mind too. You want to know C.S. Lewis's connection here?...ABSOLUTELY NOTHING;I was only trying to get something more than "hm" out of you.Since you are apparently an avid reader--and since this deceased British cousin of yours is one of my favorites--C.S. seemed like a good place to start.

Here's compelling evidence that Marion is hurt:EVERYone knows that she's a play-aholic who never misses a big tournament,and NOT too many small ones,but she's withdrawn from the L.A. tourney...get well soon,Marion;we'll miss your broad,beaming grin.In contrast,Serena has the slowest-healing thumb in modern medical history.In this case,the word 'thumb' is properly translated:injured psyche from losing to Henin twice in a row at Grand Slams,the latter time on S.W.'s best surface(she'll have to cut back on her hitchhiking now:lol: ). --BG

sharapovarulz1
Aug 5th, 2007, 01:29 PM
You want to know C.S. Lewis's connection here?...ABSOLUTELY NOTHING;I was only trying to get something more than "hm" out of you.Since you are apparently an avid reader--and since this deceased British cousin of yours is one of my favorites--C.S. seemed like a good place to start.

Here's compelling evidence that Marion is hurt:EVERYone knows that she's a play-aholic who never misses a big tournament,and NOT too many small ones,but she's withdrawn from the L.A. tourney...get well soon,Marion;we'll miss your broad,beaming grin.In contrast,Serena has the slowest-healing thumb in modern medical history.In this case,the word 'thumb' is properly translated:injured psyche from losing to Henin twice in a row at Grand Slams,the latter time on S.W.'s best surface(she'll have to cut back on her hitchhiking now:lol: ). --BG

:lol: :lol: :lol:

bruce goose
Aug 5th, 2007, 01:59 PM
To all other Marion followers,please forgive my incompetence;I trusted a gringo website--that is normally reliable--which listed our girl as a withdrawal from Los Angeles.He typed 'Marion Bartoli,thigh ???' as if he weren't sure of what her injury was.The CORRECT punctuation would've been '??? Marion Bartoli,thigh' as THIS indicates uncertainty as to whether or not she has withdrawn.Marion's last encounter with a beautiful,tall blonde(Dementieva) didn't go so well;let's hope that the next one,vs. either Bovina or Kirilenko,turns out better.

Hey,'SharapovaRulz',glad you enjoyed the joke.Although Maria apparently DOES rule Chakvetadze,my guess is that she was happy that Anna knocked off Venus.There's a side-view photo of Maria on the WTA website that shows her at the net prior to her match with Tanasugarn.This picture demonstrates how full and shapely her backside is;it's pretty amazing when a gorgeous,6'2" amazon ALSO fills out her blue jeans properly:drool: .One day soon,Marion is going to lay your gal across her knees and paddle those nice buns--and then we'll hear more loud,Sharapova shrieking!:lol:

Super_Marion
Aug 5th, 2007, 08:31 PM
!!! :lol:

bruce goose
Aug 5th, 2007, 09:13 PM
!!! :lol: Knowing that you're a contemplative person increases my reward in bringing :lol: into your life,Super "M".

If you ever have a minute,perhaps you could answer a question for me on British contextual lingo.One of Marion's potential L.A. opponents is Bovina and,although I don't know the meaning in Russian,the name is almost identical to the English 'bovine'.Mexican girls,to their credit and benefit,worry a LOT less about being skinny than gringas do.However,if you went back almost 100 years to BEFORE the era when the entertainment and fashion industry had brainwashed the American public,you'd find that 'bovine' was used to COMPLIMENT a woman's appearance.Educated people still use the term today but must be tactful when doing so to avoid a hurt reaction.
Nadia Petrova offers an excellent example of a nice,bovine figure:hearts: though,if I had to guess,she's probably insecure over it or errantly believes that she's overweight(don't change a THING,Nadia!:drool: )Could you give me any insight into the employment of 'bovine' in the UK?England will be sufficient...you don't have to speak for Scotland,Wales or Northern Ireland. --BG

Super_Marion
Aug 7th, 2007, 08:21 PM
Tried to post this yesterday, but wouldnt sent.. wtaworld has a fair amount of down-time i've noticed.

Anyways..

In UK bovine is a vetinarian term for a cow!

I'm sure Nadia would love to know that you think she's a cow :lol: To call a woman a cow is a pejorative insult, eg; 'you lazy fat cow'.

Nadia is one of Marion's friends.

bruce goose
Aug 7th, 2007, 08:44 PM
Tried to post this yesterday, but wouldnt sent.. wtaworld has a fair amount of down-time i've noticed.

Anyways..

In UK bovine is a vetinarian term for a cow!

I'm sure Nadia would love to know that you think she's a cow :lol: To call a woman a cow is a pejorative insult, eg; 'you lazy fat cow'.

Nadia is one of Marion's friends. Ha!Ha!Ha! You KNOW from the context that I didn't mean it that way.In gringo English bovine still has that same meaning that you use in England,but it's ALSO an adjective meaning healthy and full-figured(for a woman)--as opposed to that sickly-looking,UNattractive Kate Moss.It's meant as a compliment when it's used this way.Unfortunately,the OTHER more commonly-known definition has American girls paranoid over the loose connection between the two;therefore,they would typically react with uninformed shock.If you come right out and call a woman a COW,now THAT has the same derogatory meaning in Mexico,the U.S. and your stomping grounds.

Marion plays Kirilenko in a few hours and I'll be cheering heartily for her since it seems that she's struggling with her health(her thigh,right?).It's good to have this extra motivation because it's difficult for a normal guy to feel antipathy toward Kirilenko:hearts: .Even though you don't ever have these same thoughts about Maria,you can surely comprehend this.It's sort of like,let's say,you had an AMAZING night planned out,and then a friend called you with an emergency out of the blue.Due to sincere loyalty,you don't have to think twice,yet internally you wish your pal had better timing....Soooo,I'll still be cheering for Marion to give Cinderella a thorough spanking. --BG

Just Do It
Aug 7th, 2007, 10:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elPtM2zChLU

:spit:

TKane
Aug 7th, 2007, 10:38 PM
it's difficult for a normal guy to feel antipathy toward Kirilenko:hearts:

Well, I'm quite normal, and I'm indifferent to Kirilenko. She just does not interest me at all ;) :D

Allez Marion!

bruce goose
Aug 8th, 2007, 01:40 AM
Well, I'm quite normal, and I'm indifferent to Kirilenko. She just does not interest me at all ;) :D

Allez Marion! It was not my intention to insult you or anyone else,'TKane'.In my simple opinion,Kirilenko is WAY beyond just everyday prettiness,but my views certainly don't speak for all men(as you pointed out).Also,you might be much stronger than I am in resisting female temptation of this sort.

Regardless,Kirilenko WILL get old someday if she lives long enough so,IF she's not a nice person,her male companion would be stuck with an ugly shrew.That's why we're supposed to look for INTERNAL beauty though it's easy to forget that sometimes.As you can clearly see from my previous post,I wanted Marion to win and am disappointed that she lost.Prochaine fois,Marion!! --BG

bruce goose
Aug 8th, 2007, 09:12 AM
Just for the record....Though I should probably phrase things much more effectively,I don't retract my earlier praise that Kirilenko is indisputably lovely in figure.Obviously,I cannot scientifically prove this assertion but,by the same token,art experts cannot PROVE that the Mona Lisa is a quality work.

I'd like to think that my connection with Latino culture has given me a MUCH more objective view of feminine beauty than is provided by most of the powerful Western media and entertainment industry--where bones jutting out sharply beneath the skin of a malnourished actress is considered 'sexy'.To further my earlier point,even though Hantuchova's gorgeous smile has brightened my day on numerous occasions,it hasn't dazzled me to the extent that I can't recognize her as being a bit too thin(in her defense,Daniela is FAR healthier-looking than most models are).

Ultimately,it is a person's inner qualities that make them appealing on a deeper level than mere fleshly attraction,and it's THESE characteristics that have led me to support Marion(who is no slouch in the beauty department,either).If anyone saw the match or received any health updates,please fill me in on her current medical state.Once she is 100% physically,she can resume her charge towards the top and,when she plays Kirilenko again,Marion will paddle Russian Cinderella's heart-shaped buns;) in a straight-set victory. --BG

Super_Marion
Aug 11th, 2007, 04:59 AM
Ha!Ha!Ha! You KNOW from the context that I didn't mean it that way.In gringo English bovine still has that same meaning that you use in England,but it's ALSO an adjective meaning healthy and full-figured(for a woman)--as opposed to that sickly-looking,UNattractive Kate Moss.It's meant as a compliment when it's used this way.Unfortunately,the OTHER more commonly-known definition has American girls paranoid over the loose connection between the two;therefore,they would typically react with uninformed shock.If you come right out and call a woman a COW,now THAT has the same derogatory meaning in Mexico,the U.S. and your stomping grounds.

Marion plays Kirilenko in a few hours and I'll be cheering heartily for her since it seems that she's struggling with her health(her thigh,right?).It's good to have this extra motivation because it's difficult for a normal guy to feel antipathy toward Kirilenko:hearts: .Even though you don't ever have these same thoughts about Maria,you can surely comprehend this.It's sort of like,let's say,you had an AMAZING night planned out,and then a friend called you with an emergency out of the blue.Due to sincere loyalty,you don't have to think twice,yet internally you wish your pal had better timing....Soooo,I'll still be cheering for Marion to give Cinderella a thorough spanking. --BG

Why do you have to turn the tennis match into a beauty contest.

if I were a guy I dont think Maria would interest me.

So my loyalty is with Marion, she has personality.

bruce goose
Aug 12th, 2007, 06:20 AM
Why do you have to turn the tennis match into a beauty contest.

if I were a guy I dont think Maria would interest me.

So my loyalty is with Marion, she has personality. Well,with your literary background,surely it won't be necessary to explain the Greek legend of Achilles to you.Perhaps you can learn to tolerate my heartbreak-induced shortcoming somewhat,and I'll try to be mindful of avoiding what irks you.

Have always said that it's far better to have a lady companion who is above-average-looking with a nice personality than it is to have a beauty queen with a mediocre personality.We'll get ANOTHER chance to cheer on Marion against Kirilenko because Maria will probably beat Muller if her injury isn't too bad.

Absolutely LOVED your speculative supposition,so here's another one to close:if I were a lion,I'd only eat a cute,adorable antelope when it was nutritionally vital for me.Marchez a` victoria,Marion!!(good to hear from you again,Super M)

bruce goose
Aug 12th, 2007, 03:19 PM
Why do you have to turn the tennis match into a beauty contest.

if I were a guy I dont think Maria would interest me.

So my loyalty is with Marion, she has personality. One more thought on this subject:in your own words,you aptly compared the artistry of tennis with that of figure skating a while ago.NO ONE would deny that the female skater's outward display is part of her presentation.Similarly,even tennis diehards took to Evert much more readily than they did Navratilova due to Chrissie's feminine grace.

I've OFTEN been won over by the fighting spirit of both down-to-earth,everyday cuties(such as Marion or Seles) and also average-looking gals(Sanchez-Vicario,Henin).It's fairly difficult to simply "turn off" my natural,male appreciation of female beauty,but I'll do my best so as not to hinder the correspondence with you that I've truly enjoyed.:) --BG

Super_Marion
Aug 14th, 2007, 01:06 AM
sigh.. maybe i'm just incredibly naive. lol

bruce goose
Aug 14th, 2007, 01:21 AM
sigh.. maybe i'm just incredibly naive. lol No,Super 'M',it's not unreasonable for you to expect me to exercise my freewill in a more restrained manner.

Today brought another jolt of terrible,horrendous news for me,and on days such as this the elegance of Marion's ball toss or Ivanovic's unaffected,dazzling smile take me to a faraway,happier place that's untouched by personal turmoil.Even though I may overappreciate the outer glamour at times,the good Lord knows that I genuinely respect the fighting spirit of warrior-ettes like Marion(AND their dignity as human beings as well).

Though it's POSSIBLE that Marion will face Muller,I suspect that the feisty French gal will fiercely:mad: approach her third attempt to give Russian Cinderella a firm spanking...nice hearing from you,as usual:wavey: . --BG

Super_Marion
Aug 14th, 2007, 07:22 AM
We all need escapism.

I can say that I had a totally cool tennis dream recently featuring a pro player.

Yes she may play Kirilenko act. II

It would be nice to think Marion can get a few wins under her belt before Flushing Meadows. But hey, that's Marion. She's the kinda player who does out+proud bagelfests, then goes several rounds into a slam. I'm sure at some point in the coming years she will reach at least one more slam final. Probably Wimbledon again.

bruce goose
Aug 14th, 2007, 12:03 PM
We all need escapism.

I can say that I had a totally cool tennis dream recently featuring a pro player.

Yes she may play Kirilenko act. II

It would be nice to think Marion can get a few wins under her belt before Flushing Meadows. But hey, that's Marion. She's the kinda player who does out+proud bagelfests, then goes several rounds into a slam. I'm sure at some point in the coming years she will reach at least one more slam final. Probably Wimbledon again. She's not only 11th in Tour ranking,that's ALSO her spot in qualifying points for the year-end competition(in Madrid this year).If Marion were able to earn her first appearance,might it not give her more confidence that she belongs with the top players?

bruce goose
Aug 17th, 2007, 05:34 AM
WHAT IN THE HECK HAPPENED TO ALL OF THE MARIONETTES--did you folks get scared away by the temporary website problems?:eek: You MUST be happy that Marion solved her Kirilenko dilemma even if Maria may have been less than full strength.THEN she followed that up with an impressive win over a hard-serving Safina(I was GOING to add some smart-aleck,lascivious comments concerning the tall,blonde Russians,but some of our more cerebral female bloggers might object;) ).A tournament crown or even a deep run should definitely boost Marion's confidence for the USO,and the points will move her even closer to the Top 8 for the year-end championships.

Alizé Molik
Aug 17th, 2007, 05:57 AM
I actually have no idea Bruce Goose and just asked the same question - she lost in the first round of Stanford and LA and those threads had page upon page yet she has success and where the hell is everyone?!?

Her bandwagon is very empty right now :(

Super_Marion
Aug 17th, 2007, 07:12 AM
lol Goose, I'll grant that your more witty and linguisticly creative than you are a partroning c*nt! :D

PS.. My use of the C-word was in the Vagina Monologues, '3rd Wave' sense. :)

bruce goose
Aug 17th, 2007, 06:28 PM
lol Goose, I'll grant that your more witty and linguisticly creative than you are a partroning c*nt! :D

PS.. My use of the C-word was in the Vagina Monologues, '3rd Wave' sense. :) :lol: Thanks for the affirmation,Super 'M'...you Brits use that naughty word in a slightly different manner than the gringos do,yet your meaning was clear(if you ever get curious as to what I CONSIDERED adding,feel free to ask:) ).

I don't dislike the Chinese per se,but the Red government is a sad,pathetic holdover of an era that should've been LEARNED FROM so that we avoid the same mistakes.It's not necessarily Zi Yan's fault that her leaders murder or imprison Christians and others who refuse to bow down to their silly whims,but it's hard for me to cheer on athletes who compete under that flag.

If THAT weren't enough,Yan also defeated Ivanovic who--as you might have imagined--"inspires":hearts: me somewhat,so this gives me even EXTRA incentive to root for Marion.She has a good shot at winning this tourney now that she's snapped out of her funk...nice hearing from you AND 'Alize Molik' again.:) --BG

bruce goose
Aug 17th, 2007, 08:39 PM
First,a brief editing job...some of you might suggest that an athlete isn't responsible for the actions of their unjust government.That's usually true unless they are a card-carrying advocate of the Party Line or even a member of the regime.However,history has shown us how crooked despots use sporting victories as some sort of validation for their warped culture and ideology,and I don't want the Red Chinese to get any such glory.

NOW...can somebody tell me what the heck happened today:confused:...down here the real-time scoreboard was the only thing available so I couldn't actually watch the match.Did Marion retire early due to a SERIOUS injury or is she only suffering from something relatively minor such as flu-induced diarrhea?There had better be SOME explanation 'cause she coughed up what would've been a spot in the Top 10.On the other hand,I don't want her to be hurt TOO badly since:(1)She IS a human being;and (2)This could easily carry over to the USO.As for Yan,she'll probably face Henin in the SFs(Justine is 8-2 vs.Petrova),and that means her tennis fairy-tale will end with a huge ass-whuppin'(that's redneck gringo slang).

Super_Marion
Aug 17th, 2007, 09:22 PM
Petrova seems to be Marion's friend nowadays. So good luck to her against Justine.

bruce goose
Aug 17th, 2007, 09:47 PM
Petrova seems to be Marion's friend nowadays. So good luck to her against Justine. Yeah,you've said that before...Nadia has sort of a mature manner about her when she speaks so hopefully that's not just her outer layer.You tried to slander me with your ultra-strict,British grammar:mad: when I previously complimented the pretty Nadia,and she's a diamond in the rough amidst the collection of Russian barbies.She HAS beaten Henin,in a CLAY-COURT FINAL no less,within the last year so it's certainly possible.If you check out the photo gallery from Charleston 2006,you'll see that Justine still has a stunned look on her face during the trophy ceremony("HOLY SHIT!!She beat me on CLAY!!!"):lol:

Super_Marion
Aug 17th, 2007, 09:59 PM
Slander lol, did I?

bruce goose
Aug 17th, 2007, 11:58 PM
Slander lol, did I? Yeah,YOU know what you did,Super 'M';as if my chances of ever giving Nadia a passionate,Latino kiss on the lips weren't remote enough,YOU went and misrepresented me:mad: ...just for the record,many years ago in my youth('round 1990) an American reporter reviewed the video for the SI swimsuit issue whose featured model was one Ashley Richardson.This gal was about 6'2" and must've been at least 150 pounds(WONDERFULLY so) and typically wore elegant,more conservative one-piece suits since she was too buxom to wear skimpy bikinis.SI's female producer at that time(since retired)apparently appreciated Rubenesque beauty as she consistently avoided using scrawny models.I haven't seen that infamous magazine in years as they've been recruiting toothpicks straight from the runways.ANYhow,the reporter described Miss Richardson as 'bovine' and he CLEARLY wasn't trying to insult her as his admiration was evident(along with mine:drool: ).

Of course,NONE of this info will help Nadia vs. Henin tonight but I'd like to see Marion's buddy pull it out REGARDless of her figure:) . --BG

bruce goose
Aug 18th, 2007, 02:00 AM
Petrova seems to be Marion's friend nowadays. So good luck to her against Justine. Well,I'm sorry to see that Nadia lost the match.:sad: A brief visit to her fans' blog revealed the suspicion that Nadia struggles with her motivation and other personal issues,but I didn't delve into 'why'.The only thing I CAN comment on is that Nadia doesn't seem to be a frequent smiler,and that's a shame since her smile and adorable cheeks are a hidden treasure.I hope that she can find at least some degree of fulfillment with her career.

Marion COULD have avenged her pal's loss and administered another whuppin' to Henin had she not fallen short today for some reason--perhaps an injury-related one.If anyone has any info on Marion's state of physical health,please forward the results to Mexico. --BG

BartoliBabes
Aug 18th, 2007, 11:51 AM
get well son mar

bruce goose
Aug 18th, 2007, 09:08 PM
Many centuries ago,the Normands came across the Channel and powerfully established themselves on the throne of England.Judging by this forum,history has repeated itself and the new queen of the U.K. is Marion Bartoli.That's a good choice;I think she's probably much smarter than those nutty Windsors are.

It appears that Marion only had a virus...most of them aren't as dangerous as the HI Virus so she'll likely be ready for New Haven.I REALLY want to see her finish strongly at the USO and other hard-court tourneys so that she can make Madrid.My theory is that earning a spot in Spain would raise her expectations,AND confidence,and hopefully inspire her to maintain better consistency over the long run.

bruce goose
Aug 21st, 2007, 07:37 PM
Oh boy....WHY did the Brits have to send that stupid,God-forsaken,Wimbledon climate to the States?:mad: If THIS keeps up,we'll have to hold all of the future Grand Slams in domed arenas and play on that rubber stuff:eek:

bruce goose
Aug 23rd, 2007, 04:29 PM
'Aggie' Szavay did all of us a favor by wrapping up the lovely Hantuchova in a pretty pink bow--and I'm jealous;) .Truthfully,Daniela could use our Mexican diet to fatten herself up a bit but she DOES have a nice mug and,like Marion,a FANTASTIC smile.Incidentally,there are some good photos of Marion displaying her sunshine in the WTA's New Haven gallery.

Most importantly,Marion makes her maiden voyage into the Top 10 and edges closer to qualifying for the final eight in Madrid.Given both Williams sisters sporadic appearances due to stuff such as "thumb injuries"(or their soap-opera viewing schedules),Marion should be able to surpass either them or other players with borderline rankings...then,when she qualifies,she gets a BIG kiss on the lips from all of her Mexican fans(I'll go first,of course ;) ).You Marionettes have been SUPER QUIET recently but you should be excited over Marion's prospects.

bruce goose
Aug 27th, 2007, 07:29 PM
Well,it looks like the return of the Bubonic Plague has wiped out all of the Marionettes and I'm the only one who survived.:sad: Maybe after I'm dead Marion will read this and learn that someone cheered for her when she laid a tall,American Barbie(Glatch) over her knees and spanked her,THEN sent her to bed without any dessert.Aux armas,Marion!:worship:

Super_Marion
Aug 27th, 2007, 10:01 PM
I'm here. Never went away. You havent been around past few days el'horno. :D

Talking of pink. I'm wondering which brand the pink jersey is that Marion sometimes wears? It's very like my Nike Dri-Fit hoodie that I go running in.

bruce goose
Aug 27th, 2007, 11:42 PM
I'm here. Never went away. You havent been around past few days el'horno. :D

Talking of pink. I'm wondering which brand the pink jersey is that Marion sometimes wears? It's very like my Nike Dri-Fit hoodie that I go running in. Au contraire,Super 'M',I've been the ONLY one posting around here lately.I miss the lively wit that you bring into our circle and would rather be insulted by your sassy tongue than go without your presence...can't help you with any Nike insights(sorry),but there IS another 'pink' connection since you brought it up again.You've seen that my dreams of tennis queens aren't ever pornographic as they remain in the respectful,PG realm.In this vein,Dementieva was sprawled out on an inner tube while floating relaxedly on a lake.She was wearing an elegant,conservative one-piece,PINK swimsuit and gazing up at me placidly with her big blue eyes...I awoke from this dream a happy man.:) 'Horno' actually means 'oven' or 'furnace' in Spanish,though my guess is that you were accusing me,rightfully,of being 'horny'.

Marion is 10th in the WTA rankings but 11th in the race for Madrid points...the 7th-place Chakvetadze is around 500 points ahead of her but 8th place is currently EASILY obtainable.Venus,Petrova and Hantuchova are all within 100 points or so of Marion,and consistent play at the big tournaments will quickly close that gap--PLUS she gets the big kiss on the lips for qualifying,don't forget.;)

Super_Marion
Aug 28th, 2007, 12:36 AM
Or maybe I wanted the goose in my oven! Pmpl rofl. Not today thank you.

Anyways your dream....

Then along came Marion, sank her teeth into the inner tube *hiss* *bang* and sunk Dementieva. :)

Wake up and smell the butyl brucieboy! ;D

Super_Marion
Aug 28th, 2007, 12:36 AM
Or maybe I wanted the goose in my oven! Pmpl rofl. Not today thank you.

Anyways your dream....

Then along came Marion, sank her teeth into the inner tube *hiss* *bang* and sunk Dementieva. :)

Wake up and smell the butyl brucieboy! ;D

I'm sweepy, nitenite.

bruce goose
Aug 28th, 2007, 12:48 AM
Or maybe I wanted the goose in my oven! Pmpl rofl. Not today thank you.

Anyways your dream....

Then along came Marion, sank her teeth into the inner tube *hiss* *bang* and sunk Dementieva. :)

Wake up and smell the butyl brucieboy! ;D

I'm sweepy, nitenite. OK,this brief letter greets you as you enter the forum...hope you slept well.You CAN'T ruin that lovely dream,you razor-tongued Brit,my imagination is UN-conquerable,butyl or no;I STILL have the smile on my face.Ha! Ha!...it's not Lena's fault that Marion lost to her;our girl just needs to buckle down more...I'm still Mexican,though,so you'll have to translate 'PMPL ROFL' for me.:)

bruce goose
Aug 28th, 2007, 03:04 AM
Or maybe I wanted the goose in my oven! Pmpl rofl. Not today thank you.

Anyways your dream....

Then along came Marion, sank her teeth into the inner tube *hiss* *bang* and sunk Dementieva. :)

Wake up and smell the butyl brucieboy! ;D

I'm sweepy, nitenite.BTW,you haven't commented yet on Marion's possible inclusion in the year-end championships--or my theory that inclusion in this group could be a real confidence-booster for Marion in the near future.

Super_Marion
Aug 28th, 2007, 11:55 AM
Peeing My Pants Laughing, Rolling On Floor Laughing.

Well all I can say is that how far a player goes in the Grand Slams tends to be the measure by which players are rated. Rankings hold some prestige. Getting to a grand slam final more so. For me I want to see Marion make progress in this tournament compared with last year.

Btw, I dunno why the Marionettes are incognito these days. I guess summers fading and it's back to studying and work commitments. So it's cool innit. No worries.

There exists a core of forum-warmers here and on the other Marion forum. Torch-on.

sharapovarulz1
Aug 28th, 2007, 05:54 PM
Peeing My Pants Laughing, Rolling On Floor Laughing.

Well all I can say is that how far a player goes in the Grand Slams tends to be the measure by which players are rated. Rankings hold some prestige. Getting to a grand slam final more so. For me I want to see Marion make progress in this tournament compared with last year.

Btw, I dunno why the Marionettes are incognito these days. I guess summers fading and it's back to studying and work commitments. So it's cool innit. No worries.

There exists a core of forum-warmers here and on the other Marion forum. Torch-on.

I am back now been on my travels lately ;) How is everyone it's been a while? lol I am Looking forward to seeing Marion go far in the US Open :D

bruce goose
Aug 28th, 2007, 06:34 PM
Peeing My Pants Laughing, Rolling On Floor Laughing.

Well all I can say is that how far a player goes in the Grand Slams tends to be the measure by which players are rated. Rankings hold some prestige. Getting to a grand slam final more so. For me I want to see Marion make progress in this tournament compared with last year.

Btw, I dunno why the Marionettes are incognito these days. I guess summers fading and it's back to studying and work commitments. So it's cool innit. No worries.

There exists a core of forum-warmers here and on the other Marion forum. Torch-on. Well...next time you are soaked from a 'PMPL' fit,you'll need to have a nice,hot bath like other chicas traviesas ingles;) ....Just for the record,I want to see Marion win almost every match but I cannot manufacture false hatred for each opponent.If Jankovic's mom died,for example,I might feel sympathy for a little bit.I prefer Marion to Dementieva though it's hard to despise Elena;it's obvious that she has SERIOUS self-confidence issues when you see her major service troubles so clearly she's not arrogant like other unnamed,tall blondes;) .

Marion's pal Nadia is another Russian cutie who seems to struggle with her confidence sometimes...as I suggested before,Nad has probably been influenced by the Western-media into INcorrectly thinking that she's fat or that her backside is too big.If she had a Mexican boyfriend,he would remind Nad how lovely she is by affectionately squeezing her delicious buns and giving her lots of passionate Latin kisses:kiss: :kiss: :kiss: .Back to Marion herself,I'm concerned that easy early-round competition will dull her sharpness vs.tougher foes.

UDACHi
Aug 28th, 2007, 07:05 PM
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Hobbies/Interests: "I love to shop [smiles]. Love to paint. I love to do some cooking especially the French cuisine. And I love to do some jet skis on vacation. (You do oil painting?) Yes. (What kind of subjects?) I did one painting for this young lady here (Amy Binder, Director, Communications Sony Ericsson Tour) — a butterfly. And usually I'm painting a lake — I'm very lucky to live in Geneva right on the lake in the Alps. Otherwise I do a natural painting. I love to paint the butterfly, yes."
Tennis Inspiration: "Pete Sampras."
Favorite Movie: "Love Actually."
Favorite TV Show: "Sex In The City."
First Car: "The Mercedes SLR (silver)."
Last Book Read: "DaVinci Code, a while ago, I'm not reading a lot."
Favorite Artist: "Picasso."
Favorite Meal: "Sushi."
Favorite Ice Cream Flavor: "Chocolate."
First Tennis Memory: "The first time that I win, it was the first that I was playing tennis, five years and a half. I play a tournament against some girls three years older than me and I won the tournament. I remember the final, I was so stressed in the morning. I threw up everything, I couldn't keep anything in my stomach. And I go on the court and I won 6-0, 6-0. After that I was much better. The first time when I play tennis, I pick up a racquet, I never miss a ball. I hit 50 forehands in a row, 50 backhands in a row, I never miss a ball. All over the net. My dad was like, 'Oh, maybe it's your destiny to play tennis,' [laughs]."
Pre-Match Feeling: "Usually when I'm too stressed it's not good. When I'm relaxed it's fine."
Greatest Sports Moment: "The Wimbledon semifinal (defeating Justine Henin, 1-6, 7-5, 6-1)."
Most Painful Moment: "Don't have any. I mean, if I lose I lose, it's fun."
Favorite Tournament: "Wimbledon."
Closest Tennis Friends: "Shahar Peer."
Funniest Player Encountered: "Roger Federer. (Why is it him?) He's so nice all the time. He just, you're going into the players lounge or you see him, he's waiting, he'll just say hello to you, ask how you feel everytime. He's just so nice."
Toughest Competitors: "Maria Sharapova. She fights on every point. I know her since the juniors, we play each other when we were really young and she was always the same. She's a hard fighter."
Funny Memory: "When I play Serena Williams in Miami quarterfinal, first time I play against her. And she serves a second serve, she almost lobbed me. She put so much kick she almost lobbed me! I was running backwards to play the ball. It was so funny, I was so embarrassed [laughs]."
Favorite Tennis Players To Watch: "Roger."
Last Vacation: "It was a long, long time ago. Paris — one week."
People Qualities Most Admired: "Respect."

sharapovarulz1
Aug 28th, 2007, 09:49 PM
Thanks for that Udachi it's great to know all that about her :)

Super_Marion
Aug 28th, 2007, 10:53 PM
I am back now been on my travels lately ;) How is everyone it's been a while? lol I am Looking forward to seeing Marion go far in the US Open :D

Sharapovarulz! Hey how you doin? I was just thinking today that we hadnt saw you around. Good to see you back anyways. Nice trip I hope? Yeh Supa'MaZza gotit sorted, she slapped down a one & one in round one. Yeh! Represent.

Super_Marion
Aug 28th, 2007, 11:33 PM
Well...next time you are soaked from a 'PMPL' fit,you'll need to have a nice,hot bath like other chicas traviesas ingles;) ....Just for the record,I want to see Marion win almost every match but I cannot manufacture false hatred for each opponent.If Jankovic's mom died,for example,I might feel sympathy for a little bit.I prefer Marion to Dementieva though it's hard to despise Elena;it's obvious that she has SERIOUS self-confidence issues when you see her major service troubles so clearly she's not arrogant like other unnamed,tall blondes;) .

Marion's pal Nadia is another Russian cutie who seems to struggle with her confidence sometimes...as I suggested before,Nad has probably been influenced by the Western-media into INcorrectly thinking that she's fat or that her backside is too big.If she had a Mexican boyfriend,he would remind Nad how lovely she is by affectionately squeezing her delicious buns and giving her lots of passionate Latin kisses:kiss: :kiss: :kiss: .Back to Marion herself,I'm concerned that easy early-round competition will dull her sharpness vs.tougher foes.

SexMex, it's not me that needs the shower, but you! A cold one! 'pmpl' and 'rofl' are not literal terms.. as i'm sure you are aware my learned friend! Just everyday internet lingo.

Petrova is quite short isnt she? So it's more a height to weight to muscle ratio, body mass index issue. Her shape should be understood in that context.

I think it's unhelpful that, African-American's apart, the Blondski's have become the accepted paradigm of the ideal female tennis physique. There is more than one route to optimal performance, more than one way to victory, more than one champion physique.

Petrova excepted, I personally find the tall slim blonde Russian clones, and the Bollitieri clones, a bit boring to watch. Maybe they have a perv-factor for a certain kind of armchair tennis fan and half-assed commentator. But as a fan of tennis, I much prefer to see players whose game has personality. And Marions game has that ABUNDANTLY.

Super_Marion
Aug 29th, 2007, 09:13 AM
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Hobbies/Interests: "I love to shop [smiles]. Love to paint. I love to do some cooking especially the French cuisine. And I love to do some jet skis on vacation. (You do oil painting?) Yes. (What kind of subjects?) I did one painting for this young lady here (Amy Binder, Director, Communications Sony Ericsson Tour)  a butterfly. And usually I'm painting a lake  I'm very lucky to live in Geneva right on the lake in the Alps. Otherwise I do a natural painting. I love to paint the butterfly, yes."
Tennis Inspiration: "Pete Sampras."
Favorite Movie: "Love Actually."
Favorite TV Show: "Sex In The City."
First Car: "The Mercedes SLR (silver)."
Last Book Read: "DaVinci Code, a while ago, I'm not reading a lot."
Favorite Artist: "Picasso."
Favorite Meal: "Sushi."
Favorite Ice Cream Flavor: "Chocolate."
First Tennis Memory: "The first time that I win, it was the first that I was playing tennis, five years and a half. I play a tournament against some girls three years older than me and I won the tournament. I remember the final, I was so stressed in the morning. I threw up everything, I couldn't keep anything in my stomach. And I go on the court and I won 6-0, 6-0. After that I was much better. The first time when I play tennis, I pick up a racquet, I never miss a ball. I hit 50 forehands in a row, 50 backhands in a row, I never miss a ball. All over the net. My dad was like, 'Oh, maybe it's your destiny to play tennis,' [laughs]."
Pre-Match Feeling: "Usually when I'm too stressed it's not good. When I'm relaxed it's fine."
Greatest Sports Moment: "The Wimbledon semifinal (defeating Justine Henin, 1-6, 7-5, 6-1)."
Most Painful Moment: "Don't have any. I mean, if I lose I lose, it's fun."
Favorite Tournament: "Wimbledon."
Closest Tennis Friends: "Shahar Peer."
Funniest Player Encountered: "Roger Federer. (Why is it him?) He's so nice all the time. He just, you're going into the players lounge or you see him, he's waiting, he'll just say hello to you, ask how you feel everytime. He's just so nice."
Toughest Competitors: "Maria Sharapova. She fights on every point. I know her since the juniors, we play each other when we were really young and she was always the same. She's a hard fighter."
Funny Memory: "When I play Serena Williams in Miami quarterfinal, first time I play against her. And she serves a second serve, she almost lobbed me. She put so much kick she almost lobbed me! I was running backwards to play the ball. It was so funny, I was so embarrassed [laughs]."
Favorite Tennis Players To Watch: "Roger."
Last Vacation: "It was a long, long time ago. Paris  one week."
People Qualities Most Admired: "Respect."

Thanks Udachi. Cool factfile :) She seems creative, fun, spontaneous. I like Love Actually and Picasso, everything except Sex In The City... I'm more an Ally McBeal type lol.

Butterflies. I wonder why. Fragile. Beautiful. Metamorphic.

Lets have a Bartoli Butterfly :)

sharapovarulz1
Aug 29th, 2007, 11:41 AM
Sharapovarulz! Hey how you doin? I was just thinking today that we hadnt saw you around. Good to see you back anyways. Nice trip I hope? Yeh Supa'MaZza gotit sorted, she slapped down a one & one in round one. Yeh! Represent.

Hey Super_Marion I am great thanks how are you? Yeah I had a fantastic trip thanks for asking :D Glad I am back in time for the US Open though Marion is looking in great form :worship:

bruce goose
Aug 29th, 2007, 12:15 PM
SexMex, it's not me that needs the shower, but you! A cold one! 'pmpl' and 'rofl' are not literal terms.. as i'm sure you are aware my learned friend! Just everyday internet lingo.

Petrova is quite short isnt she? So it's more a height to weight to muscle ratio, body mass index issue. Her shape should be understood in that context.

I think it's unhelpful that, African-American's apart, the Blondski's have become the accepted paradigm of the ideal female tennis physique. There is more than one route to optimal performance, more than one way to victory, more than one champion physique.

Petrova excepted, I personally find the tall slim blonde Russian clones, and the Bollitieri clones, a bit boring to watch. Maybe they have a perv-factor for a certain kind of armchair tennis fan and half-assed commentator. But as a fan of tennis, I much prefer to see players whose game has personality. And Marions game has that ABUNDANTLY. :lol: 'SexMex'?...just LOVE your new nickname for me,but I only need that cold shower in the figurative sense--the way that YOU need that bath;) As further evidence that I can separate whimsy from reality,I would ALWAYS cheer for Marion vs.Sharapova even though Maria is very attractive to me....Remember that the blonde paradigm exists in the world at large,NOT just in tennis,so it's no surprise that the sport follows suit.Not all blondes are bad,though;you're chatting with one now.

According to her profile,Petrova is 5'10"--HARDLY short--I'd simply say that the good Lord has sculpted her well with His hands even though a lot of idiots would suggest that Nadia is too big.As I've said before,she has a fantastic,pretty smile:hearts: when she chooses to bless us with it.You've DEFINITELY seen me praise Marion's luscious,dark locks,both in pony tail and free flowing form.As for her style of play,it's impossible not to respect such a feisty,workhorse player in a tennis world full of cheesy modelling gigs and make-believe thumb injuries.:)

Super_Marion
Aug 29th, 2007, 06:34 PM
Your missing the point a bit. When I said "Blondski" I wasnt meaning the color of their hair as such. I was referring to the typical tall slender physique of Sharapova, Vaidasova, and Myskina... who's not blonde, but is stick thin.

No one stigmatises the Williams for their physique. Because there is a general perception that African Americans are naturally muscular. I'm arguing that if doesnt matter whether you are white or black. What matters is finding the optimal weight that's comfortable for you, and suits your game. Take Brenda Shultz... She's just a one woman tennis AK47... And that's fine. She's playing to her strength. Her build suits her game.

Btw, you are a blonde Mexican??

bruce goose
Aug 29th, 2007, 07:05 PM
Your missing the point a bit. When I said "Blondski" I wasnt meaning the color of their hair as such. I was referring to the typical tall slender physique of Sharapova, Vaidasova, and Myskina... who's not blonde, but is stick thin.

No one stigmatises the Williams for their physique. Because there is a general perception that African Americans are naturally muscular. I'm arguing that if doesnt matter whether you are white or black. What matters is finding the optimal weight that's comfortable for you, and suits your game. Take Brenda Shultz... She's just a one woman tennis AK47... And that's fine. She's playing to her strength. Her build suits her game.

Btw, you are a blonde Mexican??Actually,I knew what you meant;) ;I was simply trying to provoke a response because I richly enjoy being the recipient of your sharp wit.It's interesting that you included Myskina and,you're right,she's almost painfully skinny whereas Vaidisova has some athletic,muscular definition and Maria,though slender,is not scrawny either--her buns are quite impressive,ESPECIALLY for a 6'2" European.

Agreed with your well-explained points and let me add that I'm un-impressed with Maria's post-match smiles for the crowd;they seem like so much posing.It's a shame 'cause she has a charming smile on those rare occasions when she lets her icy guard down.Marion just lights up a room amd you can notice this even in two-dimensional photos.If I caught one of her gems in person,I think that it'd leave my spirits high for the rest of the day--even if it were spent in the midst of crappy,British weather;) ...and,yes,I get my hair color and fair complexion from my American father. --BG

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Aug 29th, 2007, 09:18 PM
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Super_Marion
Aug 29th, 2007, 10:43 PM
:d :)

bruce goose
Aug 29th, 2007, 11:16 PM
:d :) Let's see if Marion can continue to keep those smiles coming.Now she'll face the tricky left-hander Safarova(they've never played before;if she pulls out THIS one,then I think it means that she'll probably at least make the semis.

Super_Marion
Aug 30th, 2007, 12:22 AM
Your like Casanova!

I take back what I said about the Russians, esp Sharapova. It's not her game that's boring.. just the entourage.

Re; Marion v Safarova. I dont want to make predictions. I just have faith that she can win and compete against anyone.

Actually,I knew what you meant;) ;I was simply trying to provoke a response because I richly enjoy being the recipient of your sharp wit.It's interesting that you included Myskina and,you're right,she's almost painfully skinny whereas Vaidisova has some athletic,muscular definition and Maria,though slender,is not scrawny either--her buns are quite impressive,ESPECIALLY for a 6'2" European.

Agreed with your well-explained points and let me add that I'm un-impressed with Maria's post-match smiles for the crowd;they seem like so much posing.It's a shame 'cause she has a charming smile on those rare occasions when she lets her icy guard down.Marion just lights up a room amd you can notice this even in two-dimensional photos.If I caught one of her gems in person,I think that it'd leave my spirits high for the rest of the day--even if it were spent in the midst of crappy,British weather;) ...and,yes,I get my hair color and fair complexion from my American father. --BG

bruce goose
Aug 30th, 2007, 01:36 AM
Your like Casanova!

I take back what I said about the Russians, esp Sharapova. It's not her game that's boring.. just the entourage.

Re; Marion v Safarova. I dont want to make predictions. I just have faith that she can win and compete against anyone. You won't catch me overflowing with sympathy for Maria S.,but it might not be fair to label her an arrogant scumbag the way others do(I know this wasn't your point...).She apparently didn't have the same wealthy,childhood pampering that MANY spoiled gringa brats have,and it must be extremely difficult for her to get close to a man--not knowing if he loves HER or her image.

As for the entourage,I can't speak for the UK but misguided fools go beyond healthy,athletic admiration in Mexico and the U.S.;they literally worship the star athletes as the Canaanites did with Baal.Sadly,the performers almost never have the sort of moral character that is worthy of devotion:sad: ...Marion is a better player than Lucie,though her inconsistency might rise up again and make this a stiff challenge...her defeat of Henin DOES justify your faith in her,however...I'd offer you a kiss goodnight except for three reasons:1.You might not like or desire it;2.There IS a bit of a geographic gulf;and 3.YOU DON'T LOVE ME...you're still thinking of that tennis stud from your dream the other night:lol: ...sleep tight anyway,Super 'M'...hasta luego.

Super_Marion
Aug 30th, 2007, 11:27 AM
huh?

There was no tennis stud in my dream.. :confused:

bruce goose
Aug 30th, 2007, 12:12 PM
huh?

There was no tennis stud in my dream.. :confused:YEAH:confused: :confused: :confused: ,I misunderstood your intent when you spoke of that dream(page 5 of thread,in re escapism)...sorry:eek: .

Super_Marion
Aug 30th, 2007, 08:17 PM
*confused*

ok

bruce goose
Aug 31st, 2007, 08:49 PM
Congrats to Marion on pulling out a tough three-setter versus a dangerous foe;she'll get a bonus :kiss: for THAT one.Considering how Marion broke through her 'oh-fer' against Henin,I don't think that a loss to Serena from almost 4 1/2 years ago is gonna bruise her confidence.What IS an apparent obstacle to many European gals is the fiery oncourt attitude that both Williams sisters display.Though this is commonplace in women's basketball in the States,it seems to be decidedly UNcommon in Europe,and many players are intimidated even though this is not a boxing match where their physical safety would be in jeopardy.The flip side to this is that the Williams girls are surely accustomed to their opponents being fearful,so when this DOESN'T happen--as when they face Henin,for example--they lose a big mental edge and get rattled as the match drags on,OVERhitting in trying to compensate for their lost advantage and making more errors in the process...then,OF COURSE,they frequently fail to credit their victors for having more poise than they did,or they invent some mystical injury as an alibi.I don't care...as long as Marion wins her first major,it doesn't matter to me whether she has to beat a Williams or Lady Sovereign...just do it,you adorable French kitten:kiss: .

nouf
Sep 1st, 2007, 10:22 AM
Equipe 1er septembre 2007
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Super_Marion
Sep 1st, 2007, 01:26 PM
lol. Tati.

sharapovarulz1
Sep 1st, 2007, 06:58 PM
Cheers Nouf :)

bruce goose
Sep 1st, 2007, 09:26 PM
Equipe 1er septembre 2007
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/232/bartolinumber1qn3.th.jpg (http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bartolinumber1qn3.jpg):D Tant pis,Amelie!!La reine nouvelle de France est MARION!!...fermez la bouche!:lol:

Super_Marion
Sep 1st, 2007, 11:17 PM
oooh.. parle francais!

bruce goose
Sep 2nd, 2007, 12:22 AM
oooh.. parle francais!Oui,I had many years of it in school--back when I was actually young!You didn't conjugate the verb correctly,by the way;) .I already told you that I can sing AND translate La Marseillaise...currently,I'm watching the Jewish Jewel(Peer)as she's attempting to spank the Czech Barbie.She'll have to be gentle,though;Nicole's buns are fairly flat so she doesn't have much cushion back there.Perhaps her backside could fill out some if she chose a nice,Mexican boyfriend who fed her plenty of tacos and burritos.

nouf
Sep 3rd, 2007, 08:33 AM
http://www.tennisvideos.fr/forum/showthread.php?p=959#post959
http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/7821/equipe3sept2007bartolicl9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

sharapovarulz1
Sep 3rd, 2007, 12:31 PM
Damn I wish I knew French lol

Super_Marion
Sep 3rd, 2007, 01:38 PM
Oui,I had many years of it in school--back when I was actually young!You didn't conjugate the verb correctly,by the way;) .I already told you that I can sing AND translate La Marseillaise...currently,I'm watching the Jewish Jewel(Peer)as she's attempting to spank the Czech Barbie.She'll have to be gentle,though;Nicole's buns are fairly flat so she doesn't have much cushion back there.Perhaps her backside could fill out some if she chose a nice,Mexican boyfriend who fed her plenty of tacos and burritos.

non parle francais, parle l'hongrois.... or something like that. lol

"Jewish Jewel" :)

but apart from that your back at buns and backsides etc etc etc... Hmmmmm maybe I should be thankful i'm among so many red-blooded amorous males!

bruce goose
Sep 3rd, 2007, 02:49 PM
non parle francais, parle l'hongrois.... or something like that. lol

"Jewish Jewel" :)

but apart from that your back at buns and backsides etc etc etc... Hmmmmm maybe I should be thankful i'm among so many red-blooded amorous males!Actually,you are to be commended for being so tolerant of my lustful forays;you're a real trooper:) ...although there's no INTENT to be disrespectful,one could make a STRONG case that I am rude via shortsighted negligence...I'm a little upset that Marion lost to Serena--not with HER,with the result.There was a gringo baseball player named Cal Ripken(Jr.)who is now retired and,although he wasn't the most talented of the superstars,he earned tremendous respect from his peers and from ALL of the fans for playing in approx. 2,500 consecutive games WITHOUT MISSING A SINGLE ONE!Similarly,players of brown-colored football are known for their courage in battling through injuries to compete.Serena is the ANTI-Ripken in the sense that she ALWAYS has some sort of bullshit injury that allegedly prevents her from competing.Obviously she has legitimate injuries ON OCCASION,but it goes back to that children's story of the little boy who 'cried wolf'.Who knows what Serena's psychological problems might be from her upbringing in a religious cult?The bottom line is that she doesn't respect the sport nearly as much as others do so it's sad when she can win a Slam even with her sporadic dedication.This is NOT to say that she's a bad human being(the world doesn't revolve around tennis),it just LOOKS bad when a disinterested player can be number one--or close to it....I'd have a LOT more respect for her if she openly admitted that tennis was a low priority for her...guess she doesn't have the guts to speak her mind on THAT one.;)

bruce goose
Sep 3rd, 2007, 02:53 PM
You probably understand most of it,'Sharapova Rulz'...I'd offer to translate for you but you could just as easily use an online dictionary...and then you wouldn't have to deal with any crazy Mexicans.

sharapovarulz1
Sep 4th, 2007, 11:04 AM
You probably understand most of it,'Sharapova Rulz'...I'd offer to translate for you but you could just as easily use an online dictionary...and then you wouldn't have to deal with any crazy Mexicans.

:lol: :lol: Cool

bruce goose
Sep 6th, 2007, 03:35 AM
It looks like Serena or one of her agents visited the thread and then whined to the WTA World bosses about my post that has since been erased...maybe it WAS a little over the top.Anyhow,Venus is a LOT easier to like than her scummy,no-class younger sister so it's no cause of vexation that she advanced to the SFs.More importantly,she probably has the best chance of giving Henin a competitive match when you look at Kuzy's 2-14 record and Anna C.'s 0-2 vs. Justine(let's not forget that Jelena is 0-7).It should be a GREAT confrontation.

sharapovarulz1
Sep 6th, 2007, 02:06 PM
It looks like Serena or one of her agents visited the thread and then whined to the WTA World bosses about my post that has since been erased...maybe it WAS a little over the top.Anyhow,Venus is a LOT easier to like than her scummy,no-class younger sister so it's no cause of vexation that she advanced to the SFs.More importantly,she probably has the best chance of giving Henin a competitive match when you look at Kuzy's 2-14 record and Anna C.'s 0-2 vs. Justine(let's not forget that Jelena is 0-7).It should be a GREAT confrontation.

I really think Venus/Justine should be the final not a bloody semi final :rolleyes:

Who ever wins out of that match is already the new US Open champion if you ask me!

bruce goose
Sep 6th, 2007, 03:32 PM
I really think Venus/Justine should be the final not a bloody semi final :rolleyes:

Who ever wins out of that match is already the new US Open champion if you ask me!Forgive me,I lost what little is left of my mind 'cos I was looking in the wrong thread for my other post...you're right that Venus and Justine have clearly been the best so far,but Kuzy DOES deserve respect since she has won a Slam before--and that's not easy as seen by the way that Jankovic choked under pressure in last year's USO semis.

Everyone seems to hate Anna C. but I'm not aware of the reason;does she have some obnoxious behavior that annoys the fans and other players?:confused: BTW,'Super M' should LOVE how you used her British adjective 'bloody'.:lol:

Super_Marion
Sep 6th, 2007, 05:22 PM
It looks like Serena or one of her agents visited the thread and then whined to the WTA World bosses about my post that has since been erased...maybe it WAS a little over the top.Anyhow,Venus is a LOT easier to like than her scummy,no-class younger sister....
"scummy" ? You confuse me Bruce Goose. At first I thought you were quite a Williams fan. Now you sound a hater.

bruce goose
Sep 6th, 2007, 06:07 PM
"scummy" ? You confuse me Bruce Goose. At first I thought you were quite a Williams fan. Now you sound a hater. OOOOOHHH!:mad: You are LUCKY that you're safely in the UK or I would've captured you and tickled your hips & belly button with freezing ice cubes for THAT one.:lol: Once more,you are proving your versatility by using the negro-American slang 'hater'.With THAT specific meaning of the word then,yes,I would qualify--but I don't actually hate Serena the way that I do Al-Qaeda or the Communist Chinese government.I simply dislike her and her retard,cult-member father and have virtually no respect for their character as individuals(or lack thereof).It doesn't help any that she has denied us the privilege of seeing our two-fisted princess or her dreamy,dark ponytail.I take consolation,though,that within these next six weeks Marion will earn a spot in Madrid which will ALSO earn her:kiss: :kiss: :kiss: .I'll wager with you now that Marion purrs when she's kissed well.;)

Super_Marion
Sep 6th, 2007, 07:11 PM
Hm, kaay. Perhaps cos i'm disposed towards popular black culture... (among other things) I am pretty open-minded about the Williams family and their public persona.

I have a dark ponytail too, Jankovic style. But I only put my hair up when I'm out running. Time I chopped it off.

bruce goose
Sep 6th, 2007, 07:22 PM
Hm, kaay. Perhaps cos i'm disposed towards popular black culture... (among other things) I am pretty open-minded about the Williams family and their public persona.Well,I've met lots of Brits in the U.S.--though not too many in Mexico--and you are definitely more versatile than most of those others.I actually welcome the diversity that the Williamses bring to the sport,but there's simply no excuse for the gutless,shitty behavior that we see from Serena and 'Ricky'.You may reprove me if you have a counter-argument here.Also,I'm quite familiar with the dishonest,HIGHLY-manipulative practices of the cult to which they belong,and these two members of that family exhibit the same phony persona as many other lying snakes that are amongst this group...can't really say the same for Venus and the mom(to their credit),but perhaps I'm ill-informed about their manner of conduct...oh,and please don't chop it TOO short;it's one thing to be a feminist and another entirely to be a militant BUTCH(do you know THAT one,Ms.Versatile?).

Super_Marion
Sep 6th, 2007, 09:21 PM
Hm, excuse my playing devil's advocate.. but how can you be sure that the Williams family belief system affects their public conduct?

From a UK perspective, when the likes of McEnroe, Goran, Seles, and the Williams burst onto the Wimbledon stage.. They brought something new, edgy, slightly controversial. I think that's a good thing.

Wimbledon is all about tradition and protocol, an intrinsicly conservative atmosphere. Tradition and etiquette has a role to play, but so also do those daring outspoken personalities have a role to play.

Spectators enjoy the frisson between rules and rebels, tradition and innovation.

bruce goose
Sep 6th, 2007, 10:03 PM
Hm, excuse my playing devil's advocate.. but how can you be sure that the Williams family belief system affects their public conduct?

From a UK perspective, when the likes of McEnroe, Goran, Seles, and the Williams burst onto the Wimbledon stage.. They brought something new, edgy, slightly controversial. I think that's a good thing.

Wimbledon is all about tradition and protocol, an intrinsicly conservative atmosphere. Tradition and etiquette has a role to play, but so also do those daring outspoken personalities have a role to play.

Spectators enjoy the frisson between rules and rebels, tradition and innovation. Oh my goodness...I'm SOOO glad that you're 5'6" instead of just plain 6';otherwise,I'd be going out of my mind :hearts: :hearts: owing to your sharp wit.You make some excellent points and touch on a few others.Many cultures,such as my own,use 'tradition' as a crutch to justify asinine,NON-insightful handling of affairs,and the tennis SUB-culture certainly falls into that category.Although she went too far with her complete lack of class,Serena has proven your assertion because I was GLAD to see her lose--and that's RARE for me to feel that passionate about someone else's failure.

To answer your other question,a reasonable,scholastic study on your part will reveal that cultists' attachments almost invariably affect the whole spectrum of their lives in some manner.Perhaps the best example of this is the RCC;many academics are afraid to call them a cult due to their broad scope and power,but they meet ALL of the criteria perfectly.Exceptions occur,of course,when people stray away from the cult,and that may have happened with Mrs.Williams when you consider that divorce is highly frowned upon by the JWs(especially for women).However,you have correctly suggested that I cannot precisely quantify HOW much the girls' upbringing impacted them.The differences between Venus and Serena show that there is no exact formula here...just warn me if Marion ever starts making pilgrimages to Guyana with Jim Jones's son;I'll hitchhike down there and rescue her!:)

Super_Marion
Sep 6th, 2007, 11:38 PM
First of all, flattery WONT get you candy! :)

Yes, I studied Theology formally, so I am quite aware of the Jehovah's Witnesses beliefs and cultic modus operandi.

However, the Williams kind of 'godthing', seems to be just another varied of the typical American godthing! For example, the tearful drama queen at the Oscars, giving her acceptance speech in which she thanks, her family, friends, fans management team, her pink pet poodle, and "gaaawwd almighty".

This is the kind of vain self serving brand-USA god.. squeamish for stuffy Brits too listen to such speechs... but innoccous and superficial in reality.

This, is it not, the Serena and Venus god? I dont personally feel threatened by that. Or their inyerface Missy-Elliot-with-a-tennis-racquet approach to life and sport.

Yes Serena was a biiiiaaaattch the other night... But I still like them. That's how they are.

bruce goose
Sep 7th, 2007, 12:10 AM
First of all, flattery WONT get you candy! :)

Yes, I studied Theology formally, so I am quite aware of the Jehovah's Witnesses beliefs and cultic modus operandi.

However, the Williams kind of 'godthing', seems to be just another varied of the typical American godthing! For example, the tearful drama queen at the Oscars, giving her acceptance speech in which she thanks, her family, friends, fans management team, her pink pet poodle, and "gaaawwd almighty".

This is the kind of vain self serving brand-USA god.. squeamish for stuffy Brits too listen to such speechs... but innoccous and superficial in reality.

This, is it not, the Serena and Venus god? I dont personally feel threatened by that. Or their inyerface Missy-Elliot-with-a-tennis-racquet approach to life and sport.

Yes Serena was a biiiiaaaattch the other night... But I still like them. That's how they are. No,I don't feel threatened by it,either,but it's saddening to me that some people never get to know the true Savior because they were manipulated and brainwashed at a young age by these asshole cults--though I DO believe that they still retain their free will to some degree despite this brainwashing so the ultimate reward or punishment for their souls cannot be completely credited or blamed on others.My other point,which probably wasn't lucidly stated,is that many cultists learn through rigid obedience at a young age to accept nonsensical teachings and ideas,and this PROFOUNDLY weakens their ability to think rationally.I've personally witnessed this from loyal RCC adherents in numbers that are WAY too high to be coincidental.In her fucked-up mind,I suspect that Serena TRULY believes that Henin hit a bunch of 'lucky shots' because she became accustomed to accept absurd UN-reality in her youth.She and her father manifest these traits much more than the rest of the clan does.

Beyond that,our perspectives are pretty similar;the majority of churchgoers in ALL cultures want just enough religion to ease their consciences without making the kind of sacrifices that are necessary to develop Christlike character.My beef with Serena is NOT so much her snotty behavior,it's the fact that she's a gutless coward who doesn't take responsibility for her actions or failures.This is a characteristic that produces some of the worst evil that our world has seen.Fortunately,S.W. isn't Jezebel or your infamous Bloody Mary with the power to destroy lives;however,people of this variety are often facilitators/supporters for others who DO wield this force...do you suppose that we've frightened away every single blogger yet?:lol:

RigelMac
Sep 16th, 2007, 01:50 AM
Source: http://in.sports.yahoo.com/070915/48/6ksxr.html

Sunday September 16, 03:08 AM Gandhi to Bond, Bartoli draws inspiration from all

Marion Bartoli may be a fan of the suave James Bond, but India's 'Father of the Nation' is her inspiration. Asked about any non-tennis personality who has inspired her, the soft-spoken Bartoli said: "Any person like Mahatma Gandhi who has worked wonders for world peace inspires me."

The Wimbledon finalist and world No 10 wants to perform well in the Sunfeast Open to improve her ranking before competing in the year-end WTA Championships, which features the top eight players. Bartoli is now ranked ninth behind Serena Williams.

The French number one, who is the top seed for the Sunfeast Open, said: "I want to play Sunfeast Open in order to get some valuable points and then go on to play bigger tournaments in Europe and collect as many points as I can."

Bartoli is having a great year in 2007 and the high point was when she stormed into the final of Wimbledon, defeating Justin Henin. But after her success at the All-England Club, she faced a slump of sorts and went out early in the next few WTA meets. "Playing at Wimbledon was really tough and it took me more than a month to recover. Now I am slowly coming back into the groove. Life on tour has been pleasant after Wimbledon and I am thinking positive," she added.

On her experience of playing Sania Mirza, Bartoli quipped: "I played her once before at the US Open and she was quite cozy in beating me. However, if we meet here it will be a tough match." The duo has met once with Sania winning, at the US Open in 2005.

Bartoli was born in a little village called Le Puy en Velay on October 2, 1984 and growing up there perhaps influenced the way she stands inside the baseline.

"I was born in a town where it was very cold during winter and we had to practise indoors. The hall was so small that there wasn't enough space behind the baseline. That's why I have been used to standing inside the baseline. It will remain with me forever," she said with a smile.

Talking about Monica Seles, who she idolises, she said: "I had seen her at a young age during the 1992 French Open. That memory will always stay with me." Her double-handed forehand, inspired by Seles, has done wonders to her game.

RigelMac
Sep 16th, 2007, 01:54 AM
Source: http://www.telegraphindia.com/1070916/asp/sports/story_8322916.asp

Bartoli reveals Gandhi bond
A STAFF REPORTER

Marion Bartoli in the city on Saturday. A Telegraph picture


Calcutta: Marion Bartoli, the James Bond girl, is here to participate in the third edition of the Sunfeast Open. This is the top seed’s first visit to the city.

The Frenchwoman answered questions exhaustively about the game and her life at a press conference on Saturday.

The following are excerpts


Q You are the world No. 10 now. Why did you decide to take part in the Sunfeast Open, a Tier III tournament?

I enjoy exploring new countries and cities. I have played in Hyderabad once in 2004. I also visited Beijing last year. I wanted to try out the Calcutta experience. And certainly, also to garner some valuable points.

You have played against Sania Mirza. What have you to say about her game?

I have played her just once, in the 2005 US Open when she came out tops. She’s tough to play. More so in India.

What has been your most memorable experience on the tour so far?

Without a doubt it was defeating world No. 1 Justine Henin in the Wimbedon semi-final this year. I consider that my biggest achievement yet.

Monica Seles is supposed to have inspired you

I have watched her play and was inspired to take up that double-handed forehand that has worked wonders for me.

Outside the game, who has been your greatest inspiration?

I have drawn a lot of inspiration from people who gave their all to bring global peace. And from that point of view, Mahatma Gandhi has had a great influence on me.

That said, I also try to be myself, inspire and seek motivation in my own way.

You started off by doing well on the hard courts. But this year you reached the Wimbledon final. Which surface do you prefer?

I grew up playing on hard courts. But now I’m doing well on the grass courts. I’m basically enjoying playing on both surfaces.

You don’t play doubles any more?

No. I played doubles when I was younger, in order to get more practice. Now I’m totally concentrating on singles.

Your opinion about the Hawk-Eye?

(Chuckling) If the Hawk-Eye’s opinion goes my way, I like it, if it doesn’t, I don’t... Seriously, though, the presence of the Hawk-Eye makes it that much easier to concentrate on the game.

Don’t you feel your showing has not been consistent with the promise shown at Wimbledon?

Wimbledon has been tough and it took me more than a month to recover. Now I’m coming back into my groove. I think my game is pretty good right now. I am exploiting my strengths well. I am now the No. 1 in my country, ranked higher than Amelie Mauresmo and Mary Pierce.

How is life on the Tour?

It’s always been good. And after Wimbledon, it’s better than ever before. Right now, I cannot think of life without tennis.

Your next target?

To win a Grand Slam, of course.

Your brother is a soccer fan. Do you watch soccer too? Did you watch the France-Italy World Cup final?

The Italians are great at pushing people’s nerves. Materrazi did a great job of pushing Zidane’s patience to the brink. He lost his cool and France the final. Zidane is by far a better player than Materazzi though.

And how was it to have Pierce Brosnan in the stands during that famous Wimbledon semi-final against Henin?

That was the icing on the cake, to have James Bond cheering me on. An experience I will cherish.

sharapovarulz1
Sep 16th, 2007, 01:57 AM
Thanks RigelMac :)

Super_Marion
Sep 16th, 2007, 05:44 AM
Source: http://www.telegraphindia.com/1070916/asp/sports/story_8322916.asp

Nicone Mac :wavey:

Great to hear from her own mouth that her next goal is winning a slam. That's Achievable. :)

Scotland have defeated France at soccer twice in the past year. :D

sharapovarulz1
Sep 16th, 2007, 11:36 AM
Nicone Mac :wavey:

Great to hear from her own mouth that her next goal is winning a slam. That's Achievable. :)

Scotland have defeated France at soccer twice in the past year. :D

I know what the hell is going on with the French team lol

Well done to Scotland though :p

Super_Marion
Sep 16th, 2007, 02:46 PM
The Scottish players must have stopped eating deep fried mars bars..... rofllmao :D

Iceland
Oct 20th, 2007, 07:47 AM
Tennis - WTA - Coup dur pour Bartoli

http://www.lequipe.fr/Xml/Tennis/Titres/Media/201007_Bartoli.jpg
La Française Marion Bartoli (Photo L'Equipe) s'est sérieusement blessée au genou gauche, vendredi, lors de son quart de finale face à Tatiana Golovin. Alors qu'elle venait de faire le break pour mener 5-4 et servir pour le gain du premier set, Bartoli est retombée sur sa jambe gauche en effectuant un coup droit. «J'ai ressenti un craquement. On ne sait pas exactement ce que c'est : un ménisque ou un ligament mais c'est très douloureux» a expliqué la joueuse dans les colonnes du quotidien L'Equipe de samedi.

Revenue sur sa chaise au changement de côté et souffrant terriblement, elle fit tout de même appel au kiné qui tenta un bandage. La récente finaliste de Wimbledon a essayé de poursuivre mais dès sa première tentative de service, elle s'est écroulée, incapable de prendre appui sur sa jambe. En larmes, elle a donc dû jeter l'éponge face à Golovin et voir aussi ses rêves de qualification pour le Masters s'envoler. Encore plus grave, elle s'est aussi inquiétée des conséquences de cette blessure sur sa prochaine saison. Celle qui a surpris tout son monde cette année en obtenant d'incroyables résultats avec un passage parmi les dix meilleures joueuses du monde, a eu naturellement bien du mal à accepter cet injuste coup du sort.

«C'est vraiment dur car je savais que j'avais encore une chance d'aller au Masters et que ça aurait pu être le couronnement de ma saison. Et puis ça ne va pas se guérir du jour au lendemain. Là, quelle que soit la gravité de ma blessure, je ne vais pas pouvoir respecter le programme prévu pour l'intersaison et le début de la saison prochaine.» Bartoli va désormais rentrer chez elle en Suisse dès samedi pour passer des examens. Son père Walter disait espérer que le ligament croisé intérieur ne soit pas touché, car cela signifierait probablement au moins six mois d'arrêt. Golovin de son côté a été profondément attristée par le coup du sort qui a touché Bartoli. «Quand on pense à tout le travail que fournit Marion, aux super résultats qu'elle a obtenus cette année, ce n'est pas juste.» Golovin est bien placée pour en parler, elle qui justement la saison passée, s'était blessée à une cheville sur ce même tournoi de Zurich.

Iceland
Oct 20th, 2007, 08:01 AM
So in few words, Marion injured herself at 4-4 0/30 after having hit a FH on a deep ball of Tatiana. She fell on her left leg and she heard a noise, something like creaking. She doesn't know which part of her knee is touched, the meniscus or the ligament. Still it's very painful. She knows that it's not going to be healed in three days and that consequently, she won't be able to respect her programme for the end of the season and the beginning of next year. To read her, Marion seems completely destroyed :sad:.
Her mother will pick her up with the car today and they will make exams.

Otherwise, concerning the match, Tati said that she was really bothered by Marion's flat strokes as she is not used to playing against her. She couldn't play her game. She said that she will try to be worthy of the SF...

We'll have some more news during the week end I think to determine how serious is the injury.
Take care of you Marion :hug:!!!!!

Iceland
Oct 20th, 2007, 08:01 AM
BTW you also another French article available in Tati's section "Article sur Tati".

Super_Marion
Oct 20th, 2007, 08:20 AM
:( Maybe Marion has been playing too much. I'm gutted. Poor baba.

Iceland
Oct 20th, 2007, 08:33 AM
Perhaps... This is sure that you're more prone to injuries when you are tired. But it could have happened at any time, it's more due to the gesture she made on this point to get the ball back and the fall on her leg it caused.

Still, I agree with you, Marion should play less. But I doubt she will respect this next year as she will certainly miss the first part of the season. So she may want after to compensate with playing more.

Super_Marion
Oct 20th, 2007, 08:34 AM
Thanks Iceland, can I ask how you found out this further info?

Heal Soon Marion!

Iceland
Oct 20th, 2007, 08:40 AM
Thanks Iceland, can I ask how you found out this further info?

Heal Soon Marion!

Well searching on the Internet ... there was one article on l'Equipe.fr and Nouf, a poster, buys everyday the newspaper and puts it on the web. As I feel very concerned for our Marion, I really try to find as many sources as I can ^^.

RigelMac
Oct 26th, 2007, 11:45 PM
Source: http://in.sports.yahoo.com/071026/137/6mgdl.html

Allez Marion in Linz!!!

Friday October 26, 05:45 PM Bartoli rebounds from career threat


By Barry Wood

LINZ, Austria (Reuters) - Wimbledon finalist Marion Bartoli said she plunged into the depths of despair last week after being warned her career could be over.

The French world number nine had limped out of the Zurich Open in tears after injuring her left knee during her quarter-final clash with compatriot Tatiana Golovin.

When she returned home and was examined by a doctor, she received a pessimistic diagnosis.

"The doctor told me I will have six months off the court, I would have surgery and maybe my career will stop because my knee was too injured," she told reporters at the Linz Open, where she has reached the quarter-finals.

"It was really bad news and I cried for two days during the weekend. But on Monday morning my dad drove me to Lyon because he knows the best knee specialist in France there. I was feeling inside it was not so bad as the first doctor told me.

"In the end I went to see three different doctors and they told me I had twisted my knee but it wasn't that bad. My patella went out of position so they put it back in place and they said that if I wanted to go and play on Thursday it was fine for them but if I was feeling pain again when I tried to practise on Tuesday and Wednesday then I could not go to Linz.


NO PAIN

"So I practised at home in Geneva on Tuesday and Wednesday because I really wanted to come here and I didn't feel any pain so I knew I was fine to come."

The number three seed at the Linz Open came through her opening match against 16-year-old Austrian Tamira Paszek in style, winning 6-2 6-1 on Thursday.

"It's not 100 percent but still all right to be able to play," said Bartoli. "I feel sometimes a little pain, especially when I move and I have a hard step to take on my left leg. I'm using my leg and not too much my upper body when I serve usually but like this I cannot use my leg and have to use my upper body, so that's good for me."

Bartoli said the injury had taught her a lesson.

"When you have that kind of news from a doctor, when you're just able to walk and go onto the court each morning you're happy," she said. "Maybe this episode has learned me one thing. Before, I was putting so much pressure on myself to play good every day and try to be at my best.

"But I learned from this experience that if you lose, play bad, it doesn't matter really. I have to take some pressure off myself because it's so much fun to just go on court and play."

Iceland
Oct 27th, 2007, 06:48 PM
Great article thanks! I love the end of it :)

RigelMac
Nov 10th, 2007, 06:32 AM
Source: http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_sports/view/310718/1/.html

Tennis: Bartoli finishes her year at her highest peak
Posted: 10 November 2007 0420 hrs

MADRID : Marion Bartoli's career-best season ended with a win which guarantees she finishes the year in the world's top ten, though her experience of her debut in the tour-climax WTA Championships was a strange one.

The French player needed only eight games to overcome Jelena Jankovic, the ailing world number three from Serbia, who retired after only one game of the second set, feeling unwell.

That followed an even odder experience for Bartoli the day before, when she had come into the tournament as a reserve on the third day and was beaten by the acclimatised and in-form world number one Justine Henin without winning a game.

"It's been the strangest week for me," agreed the Geneva-based player from Le Puy in the Massif Central. "I heard at night that I would be the alternate for Serena Williams.

"I played Justine who had had two matches already and my goal today was to play better, and I did, but I am sorry for Jelena to end like that."

Bartoli broke Jankovic's serve at once, finding much more rhythm than she had the previous day, and although she served a double fault to drop serve for 2-1, she was soon pounding away well with her double-handers on both wings.

At 1-4 down Jankovic called the doctor and took a ten-minute break, though when she returned she was little better and soon began to play without conviction.

During the interval at the end of the set she became involved in a testy dialogue with her coach Ricardo Sanchez. "I can't even move, I can't breathe," she complained.

"You need only two shots," he replied. "You don't need to run and play ten shots. Play one shot and then hit hard - go for winners."

"But I don't feel good, I have problem breathing," Jankovic repeated, and after trying to mix up her tactics in the first game of the second set, but dropping serve again, she decided to call an end to her season.

"It's difficult to come back on court after such a tough match as I had," commented Bartoli. "But I am a champion and I tried to forget yesterday's match and put on a good show. I really wanted to enjoy this one because it's the last one and I wanted to have no regrets."

At least she can reflect that she is finishing in the highest company after a year which began so moderately. It took till mid-March before Bartoli won consecutive matches, and she had fallen to 25 in the world before beginning to turn her season around on the European clay.

She then played brilliantly to reach the Wimbledon final and, after reaching the world's top ten for the first time last month, found herself playing in the season-end tournament for the first time.

"My goal now is to play the WTA Championships again next year, in Doha," she said. "But I have a Grand Slam final to defend, so it will be tough."

Super_Marion
Nov 10th, 2007, 12:24 PM
Thanks RigelMac

Super_Marion
Dec 21st, 2007, 02:19 PM
Seasons Greeting Marimaniacs!! :wavey:

check out www.onthebaseline.com for an exclusive with Marion.

Happy Christmas Everyone. You Too Bruce Goose :)

bruce goose
Dec 21st, 2007, 03:29 PM
Seasons Greeting Marimaniacs!! :wavey:

check out www.onthebaseline.com for an exclusive with Marion.

Happy Christmas Everyone. You Too Bruce Goose :)Thanks,Babe!If you ever decide to visit our famous,sunny places like Puerta Vallarta,then make sure you say 'hello' to "someone" in Northern Mexico on your way down.How do you Brits say it?..."Godspeed"(?) to you and your friends and family and Feliz Navidad to you,too.:wavey:

Super_Marion
Dec 21st, 2007, 10:11 PM
It certainly would be warmer than here. It has been below freezing every night and day for over a week, and i'm loaded with the cold :(

bruce goose
Dec 22nd, 2007, 04:54 AM
Well,sweetie,if you can't get away from the weather,then I recommend taking a temporary respite whenever you most need that pick-me-up.Though I've never been a coffee lover,my distant Colombian cousins make a great-smelling product,and lots of folks seem to enjoy the taste.Coffee hounds say that a steaming cup can heat up your insides pretty well...you can share some British slang names for coffee if you're so inclined,btw.:)

On a potentially positive note,:hearts::hearts:Arete:hearts::hearts:called me after she had been drinking a tad...and you KNOW the old saying that people often speak their true feelings when they're tipsy.She said that she missed me and then she repeated that sentiment,while totally sober,right before I took off to spend the holidays in the States.If she can overcome her fear of being hurt(and PART of her realizes that I'd never hurt her),then...BG 'n' Arete:bounce::hearts::hearts::hearts:...better take things slowly,of course.:)[/I] It certainly would be warmer than here. It has been below freezing every night and day for over a week, and i'm loaded with the cold :(

nouf
Dec 26th, 2007, 07:03 AM
marion nominated for champion of french champions 2007 by equipe
http://wtatour.fr/showthread.php?t=800

Super_Marion
Dec 26th, 2007, 02:01 PM
Well,sweetie,if you can't get away from the weather,then I recommend taking a temporary respite whenever you most need that pick-me-up.Though I've never been a coffee lover,my distant Colombian cousins make a great-smelling product,and lots of folks seem to enjoy the taste.Coffee hounds say that a steaming cup can heat up your insides pretty well...you can share some British slang names for coffee if you're so inclined,btw.:)

On a potentially positive note,:hearts::hearts:Arete:hearts::hearts:called me after she had been drinking a tad...and you KNOW the old saying that people often speak their true feelings when they're tipsy.She said that she missed me and then she repeated that sentiment,while totally sober,right before I took off to spend the holidays in the States.If she can overcome her fear of being hurt(and PART of her realizes that I'd never hurt her),then...BG 'n' Arete:bounce::hearts::hearts::hearts:...better take things slowly,of course.:)[/I]
Hey congrats, hope it works out :)

A friend got me some herbal fruit tea things for xmas, so they work fine.

Super_Marion
Dec 26th, 2007, 02:07 PM
marion nominated for champion of french champions 2007 by equipe
http://wtatour.fr/showthread.php?t=800
I just registered, because I need to vote, for Thierry Henry of course ;)

bruce goose
Dec 26th, 2007, 08:04 PM
I just registered, because I need to vote, for Thierry Henry of course ;)Do you think that Marion can win this popularity contest or are there others who are much more 'in' with the Frogs?

Lighter
Dec 26th, 2007, 08:56 PM
Do you think that Marion can win this popularity contest or are there others who are much more 'in' with the Frogs?This is my first post today. As french, I can precise some points concerning this contest. Here is the link if you are ready to vote : http://www.lequipe.fr/Concours/concours_sportifs_Fr_2007.php
Short list only includes 10 athletes, 8 males and 2 females. Favourite is the other female, Laure Manaudou. But, Marion can reach a better result than expected due to the fact that her decision to avoid fed cup and olympic games currently improves her awareness.

bruce goose
Dec 27th, 2007, 02:08 AM
Well,my knowledge of French sports heroes is not very thorough,but I hope that Marion gets at least enough votes to show some strong support.Unless Mauresmo comes back strongly again,Marion might be the French No. 1 for a while. This is my first post today. As french, I can precise some points concerning this contest. Here is the link if you are ready to vote : http://www.lequipe.fr/Concours/concours_sportifs_Fr_2007.php
Short list only includes 10 athletes, 8 males and 2 females. Favourite is the other female, Laure Manaudou. But, Marion can reach a better result than expected due to the fact that her decision to avoid fed cup and olympic games currently improves her awareness.

Super_Marion
Dec 28th, 2007, 10:31 PM
I dont know the answer to that Bee Gee. But if you are supporting Marion now then you are welcome to join us at www.tennispalace2.proboards99.com

bruce goose
Dec 29th, 2007, 02:54 PM
OK,Sugar Pie,but I'm visiting with my gringo dad in the U.S. right now so I'll be away from the computer 'til this evening...will get back with you soon:wavey:I dont know the answer to that Bee Gee. But if you are supporting Marion now then you are welcome to join us at www.tennispalace2.proboards99.com

bruce goose
Dec 30th, 2007, 03:30 AM
Well,my friends and Marionettes,I visited the other Marion site that the lovely,witty 'Super M' referred to,but I didn't see anything connected with the French Athlete of the Year vote.If you want her to win badly enough,you COULD do what our Mexican leaders did for so many years--stuff the ballot box or buy off the electoral board.;)

Super_Marion
Dec 30th, 2007, 09:09 AM
eh?

lightningquick
Dec 30th, 2007, 12:04 PM
marion does an interview for ju,,,, she appears midway

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv68LMij4VU&NR=1

bruce goose
Dec 30th, 2007, 01:22 PM
Sorry,babe:eek:;I just assumed earlier,when you referenced 'supporting' Marion,that there was some connection with that vote involving her,Thierry Henry and the other top-notch Frogs...of course,it's hard to really label Marion a Frog or -ette since she's such a lovely,valiant warrior....esse;) eh?

stefi62
Dec 31st, 2007, 05:21 PM
Amélie Mauresmo about Marion in Le Figaro last week
http://www.lefigaro.fr/sport/2007/12/21/02001-20071221ARTFIG00002-amelie-mauresmo-j-ai-envie-vraiment.php :

Qu'avez-vous pensé de la saison de Marion Bartoli, qui a terminé au 10e rang mondial ?
Ce n'est pas une joueuse qui a un talent, comme Richard Gasquet, par exemple. Mais le boulot particulièrement atypique qu'elle effectue avec son père a payé. Elle a une capacité à pouvoir encaisser des journées de sept, huit, neuf heures. Mais je pense que personne ne s'attendait à ce qu'elle obtienne ces résultats, et elle la première.

Vous attendiez-vous à être dépassée au classement mondial par une autre Française ?
Je ne m'attendais pas à ce que la saison se passe comme cela pour moi, déjà. Sans être péjorative par rapport à Marion, je m'attendais à ce que Tatiana Golovin, au vu de son potentiel, aille un peu plus haut (13 e ). Mais elle a été blessée.

Regrettez-vous toujoursl'absence de Marion Bartoli en Fed Cup ?
C'est son choix. Évidemment, c'est dommage, nous serions plus fortes avec elle. Je suis de la vieille école, celle des Noah, des Forget, des choses fortes que l'on partage en équipe, avec un groupe donné. Et on n'y déroge pas.



Roughly, Amélie says that Marion is not talented (as Gasquet can be), but works a lot. she is surprised by her results this year, she expected Tatiana to be ranked higher, cos she is a better player, but she got injured! Quite amazing statement by Amélie!
It seems Amélie does not really like Marion. I find these words kind of rude, all this because of Marion's problems with French federation (Marion does not want to go in Fed Cup if her father can not come. But there is a law in the french federation cup code that says no personal coach can join the group. Well, of course, except Amélie's coach, who happens to be a national coach as well!)

up!
Jan 2nd, 2008, 12:47 PM
when does she start the season ?

Lighter
Jan 2nd, 2008, 02:45 PM
Next week in Sydney.

I just read L'Equipe 31st december. 8 out of 10 tennis journalists of L'équipe consider that Marion won't belong to top 10 at the end of 2008. In the same time, 7 out of 10 don't expect Amélie Mauresmo to reach top 5.

At the beginning of 2007, nobody thought Marion Bartoli to be Wimbledon runner up.So,........

bruce goose
Jan 3rd, 2008, 06:28 AM
Amélie Mauresmo about Marion in Le Figaro last week
http://www.lefigaro.fr/sport/2007/12/21/02001-20071221ARTFIG00002-amelie-mauresmo-j-ai-envie-vraiment.php :

Qu'avez-vous pensé de la saison de Marion Bartoli, qui a terminé au 10e rang mondial ?
Ce n'est pas une joueuse qui a un talent, comme Richard Gasquet, par exemple. Mais le boulot particulièrement atypique qu'elle effectue avec son père a payé. Elle a une capacité à pouvoir encaisser des journées de sept, huit, neuf heures. Mais je pense que personne ne s'attendait à ce qu'elle obtienne ces résultats, et elle la première.

Vous attendiez-vous à être dépassée au classement mondial par une autre Française ?
Je ne m'attendais pas à ce que la saison se passe comme cela pour moi, déjà. Sans être péjorative par rapport à Marion, je m'attendais à ce que Tatiana Golovin, au vu de son potentiel, aille un peu plus haut (13 e ). Mais elle a été blessée.

Regrettez-vous toujoursl'absence de Marion Bartoli en Fed Cup ?
C'est son choix. Évidemment, c'est dommage, nous serions plus fortes avec elle. Je suis de la vieille école, celle des Noah, des Forget, des choses fortes que l'on partage en équipe, avec un groupe donné. Et on n'y déroge pas.



Roughly, Amélie says that Marion is not talented (as Gasquet can be), but works a lot. she is surprised by her results this year, she expected Tatiana to be ranked higher, cos she is a better player, but she got injured! Quite amazing statement by Amélie!
It seems Amélie does not really like Marion. I find these words kind of rude, all this because of Marion's problems with French federation (Marion does not want to go in Fed Cup if her father can not come. But there is a law in the french federation cup code that says no personal coach can join the group. Well, of course, except Amélie's coach, who happens to be a national coach as well!)Fermez la gueule,Amelie!Marion est la reine nouveau de France;tu es l'idiot de la ville.

I guess this is another example of how tennis snobs get jealous when an unexpected player rises to the top...it'll be great when Marion smacks her off the court for the 1st time.:)

Lighter
Jan 3rd, 2008, 07:14 AM
Don't be so rude with Amélie. Neither Amélie nor Marion have Gasquet's special talent. But they have both their own talents.

If you are interested in the last information concerning Marion, she arrived in Sydney december 31st in the morning.

It is possible to podcast a very recent interview of her on a french radio (december 27th). The link is : http://www.europe1.fr/podcast/sports.jsp and you click on Sports 27/12/2007 22h55
Her interview starts at 1h 16m 30s. Of course, she speaks french. She explains that she has still improved many details in working hard 5 days out of 7. She is very confident and refuses to speak about fed cup and olympic games.

Super_Marion
Jan 3rd, 2008, 09:28 AM
All Marion can do is be at peace with herself and play her own game. She is used to this.

"valiant warrior" :) Yes!

bruce goose
Jan 3rd, 2008, 01:06 PM
'Lighter' overlooked the fact that I am a Western Male;):we don't like it when someone attacks our beautiful queen--especially with poorly-founded verbal crap.It's our nature to want to protect her and "Momo" can ponder my words while she's recovering from the ass-whipping that Schnyder just gave her.:lol:All Marion can do is be at peace with herself and play her own game. She is used to this.

"valiant warrior" :) Yes!

Lighter
Jan 3rd, 2008, 05:29 PM
'Lighter' overlooked the fact that I am a Western Male;):we don't like it when someone attacks our beautiful queen--especially with poorly-founded verbal crap.It's our nature to want to protect her and "Momo" can ponder my words while she's recovering from the ass-whipping that Schnyder just gave her.:lol:
I am also a latin male, but from south of France. I'm not corsican like Marion. But I know that there is no problem between Amelie and Marion. It is just that Amélie is much closer to Tatiana than to Marion. That's all.

Moreover, they practice in the same tennis club in geneve. So,.......

I hope Marion to have good results in Sydney and during AO. She is very confident.

bruce goose
Jan 3rd, 2008, 06:14 PM
Yes,I recognize YOUR tri-color which is different from ours in the blue vs. green sense...also our emblem which is smack in the white's middle.I still remember the words from 'La Marseillaise' from my school days.

'Super M' could tell you how I'm a sucker for beautiful tennis queens(to a fault sometimes);).Yet there's something even more special about gals like Petrova and Marion who are lovely while still being healthy and clasically-shapely.That's why Ivanovic:hearts: REALLY drives me nuts.In addition,Marion has a valiant spirit that even casual tennis fans have to like.When people insult her by caling her fat--instead of curvaceous,as she is:drool:--or when French big shots treat her as an outsider,I don't take too kindly to it.I'll support her regardless,but I hope that she can become a consistent threat at the Slams this year in taking her game to the next level...I want to see more of that breathtaking smile of hers.:hearts: I am also a latin male, but from south of France. I'm not corsican like Marion. But I know that there is no problem between Amelie and Marion. It is just that Amélie is much closer to Tatiana than to Marion. That's all.

Moreover, they practice in the same tennis club in geneve. So,.......

I hope Marion to have good results in Sydney and during AO. She is very confident.

Lighter
Jan 3rd, 2008, 07:14 PM
For those who speak or understand french language, another very interesting podcast : http://www.radio-tennis.com/radiotennis/share/audio/radio_tennis_48.mp3
4 journalists sum up french female players results in 2007, including a Marion's interview.

Of course, they speak about Marion, Amélie, Tatiana, virginie and so on.
Just for Bruce GOOSE, the nicest french tennis female player stopped competition too early. She is not famous. She was just Marion's partner when they were 16 years old. As she decided to stop competition, I have no choice. I have to support Marion whatever her results.

Super_Marion
Jan 3rd, 2008, 10:07 PM
interesting posts all

Super_Marion
Jan 3rd, 2008, 10:16 PM
I find the tension between Momo Tati and Mari, intriguing.....

Lighter
Jan 4th, 2008, 12:10 PM
I find the tension between Momo Tati and Mari, intriguing.....There is no tension between Amélie, Tatiana and Marion. Marion is on friendly terms with Amélie and Tatiana. It is just that Amélie has always thought Tatiana to have bigger potential to replace her than Marion.
Moreover, their links with French official coachs are evident when Marion has implemented her own organization without French federation support.

I have found on internet a very interesting walter Bartoli’s interview dated AO 2007, before wimby 2007. Of course, it is in French.
http://crdp.ac-clermont.fr/cddp43/cd43/velaustralie/sport/sport.htm

To be clear, under the lines, Walter Bartoli does not understand why some official French coachs have never believed in Marion potential despite good results in junior and its talents.

A French blogger wrote a very good analysis here :
http://www.grandchelem.net/mon_weblog/2007/12/le-clan-bartoli.html
Third comments is very instructive. Sorry, it is still in French.

bruce goose
Jan 4th, 2008, 04:30 PM
Since I'm not too familiar with Marion's teenage years,perhaps you could share the identity of this other gal if you wish to do so.You may also explain what it was about her character that makes you consider her the nicest.It speaks well of Marion that she would have friendships with this type of good-hearted folk. For those who speak or understand french language, another very interesting podcast : http://www.radio-tennis.com/radiotennis/share/audio/radio_tennis_48.mp3
4 journalists sum up french female players results in 2007, including a Marion's interview.

Of course, they speak about Marion, Amélie, Tatiana, virginie and so on.
Just for Bruce GOOSE, the nicest french tennis female player stopped competition too early. She is not famous. She was just Marion's partner when they were 16 years old. As she decided to stop competition, I have no choice. I have to support Marion whatever her results.

Lighter
Jan 4th, 2008, 04:58 PM
Since I'm not too familiar with Marion's teenage years,perhaps you could share the identity of this other gal if you wish to do so.You may also explain what it was about her character that makes you consider her the nicest.It speaks well of Marion that she would have friendships with this type of good-hearted folk.A link just for you :http://www.tennistemple.com/fiche_Emmanuelle_Edon_1184.html
Is not she lovely ?
She was Marion's partner when they were 16s and 18s. They also played European championship in 2000. And now she is modeling.

bruce goose
Jan 4th, 2008, 05:49 PM
Just to tell you,Lighter,when you ask questions in conversational English,almost NO ONE says "Is Not";you use the contraction form "Isn't",as in "isn't she lovely",otherwise it will sound very strange when you speak.

To answer your question:Yes,Emmanuelle is tall & stunning and she is too pretty and healthy-looking to be a model,actually.Most models are WAY too skinny and they appear sickly but Emmanuelle is nicely well-shaped as most athletes are.My curiosity was in finding out if you liked her personality,too--or is it just her beauty?Our lovely,kissable modern feminist,'Super M',might have the same query for you(ain't that right,sugar babe?;)) A link just for you :http://www.tennistemple.com/fiche_Emmanuelle_Edon_1184.html
Is not she lovely ?
She was Marion's partner when they were 16s and 18s. They also played European championship in 2000. And now she is modeling.

Super_Marion
Jan 5th, 2008, 07:28 AM
There is no tension between Amélie, Tatiana and Marion. Marion is on friendly terms with Amélie and Tatiana. It is just that Amélie has always thought Tatiana to have bigger potential to replace her than Marion.
Moreover, their links with French official coachs are evident when Marion has implemented her own organization without French federation support.

I have found on internet a very interesting walter Bartolis interview dated AO 2007, before wimby 2007. Of course, it is in French.
http://crdp.ac-clermont.fr/cddp43/cd43/velaustralie/sport/sport.htm

To be clear, under the lines, Walter Bartoli does not understand why some official French coachs have never believed in Marion potential despite good results in junior and its talents.

A French blogger wrote a very good analysis here :
http://www.grandchelem.net/mon_weblog/2007/12/le-clan-bartoli.html
Third comments is very instructive. Sorry, it is still in French.

I hear what you say Lighter. However the remarks made by Golovin and Mausesmo regarding Fed Cup inclusion runs counter to the idea they are friends.

Marion is a professional. She maintains all due courtesy. But as she said herself, none of them congratulated her on reaching Wimbledon Final. Except I think Dechy. (?)

Indeed, as you say yourself, the mandarins of French tennis have never embraced Bartoli. The FFT should go practice synchronised baguette swivelling... Because they know more about than they do tennis.

Super_Marion
Jan 5th, 2008, 07:39 AM
Just to tell you,Lighter,when you ask questions in conversational English,almost NO ONE says "Is Not";you use the contraction form "Isn't",as in "isn't she lovely",otherwise it will sound very strange when you speak.

To answer your question:Yes,Emmanuelle is tall & stunning and she is too pretty and healthy-looking to be a model,actually.Most models are WAY too skinny and they appear sickly but Emmanuelle is nicely well-shaped as most athletes are.My curiosity was in finding out if you liked her personality,too--or is it just her beauty?Our lovely,kissable modern feminist,'Super M',might have the same query for you(ain't that right,sugar babe?;))
Is that a reference to my penchent for a certain girl group called Sugababes? How did you find out?

Lighter
Jan 5th, 2008, 10:14 AM
I hear what you say Lighter. However the remarks made by Golovin and Mausesmo regarding Fed Cup inclusion runs counter to the idea they are friends.

Marion is a professional. She maintains all due courtesy. But as she said herself, none of them congratulated her on reaching Wimbledon Final. Except I think Dechy. (?)

Indeed, as you say yourself, the mandarins of French tennis have never embraced Bartoli. The FFT should go practice synchronised baguette swivelling... Because they know more about than they do tennis.They aren’t friends at all. I just wrote « friendly terms ». For example, after Marion’s injury in Zurich, Tatiana and Marion were together in the chief umpire office without any tension. Amélie and Marion train in the same tennis club.

Marion just doesn’t understand why some French tennis federation officials never trusted in her father as a coach.

The lonely French player who congratulated her after Wimby final was Séverine Brémond.

As she said, she just wants to follow her own way with her own weapons.

If she beats Na li in Sydney, it is clear that Goven will put a stronger pression on her for fed cup.

BartoliBabes
Jan 5th, 2008, 03:53 PM
The thing is, when Marion reached the Wimb final all of a sudden she was wanted by Goven to play on the squad. Before that she stated that she didn't want to play unless she got a 'real' match anyway. Marion's never needed the FFT, she and her father have gone it alone. Right now, French tennis needs Bartoli on their side without the likes of Mauresmo and Pierce, and having to rely on the Russian born and 'more talented' Golovin always. Why should Marion change whats always been the same and take instructions from someone else out there? She shouldn't! Not after the comments that were made against her she shouldn't. You're right, she's a professional. The remarks that were made against her from Golovin didn't surprise me at all, but the comment from Amelie did however. I do have to disagree with her though. I think Marion has to be one of thee most talented players out there to play the way she does and be so limited movement wise yet still be top10 and to have achieved what she has. I think that Amelie is definetly being bias when she says that. Anyways, I'm sure Marion's not worried about it and she'll be concentrating on Sydney right now which again shows her professionalism, after all who's French No.1? Allez Mar

Lighter
Jan 5th, 2008, 05:21 PM
The thing is, when Marion reached the Wimb final all of a sudden she was wanted by Goven to play on the squad. Before that she stated that she didn't want to play unless she got a 'real' match anyway. Marion's never needed the FFT, she and her father have gone it alone. Right now, French tennis needs Bartoli on their side without the likes of Mauresmo and Pierce, and having to rely on the Russian born and 'more talented' Golovin always. Why should Marion change whats always been the same and take instructions from someone else out there? She shouldn't! Not after the comments that were made against her she shouldn't. You're right, she's a professional. The remarks that were made against her from Golovin didn't surprise me at all, but the comment from Amelie did however. I do have to disagree with her though. I think Marion has to be one of thee most talented players out there to play the way she does and be so limited movement wise yet still be top10 and to have achieved what she has. I think that Amelie is definetly being bias when she says that. Anyways, I'm sure Marion's not worried about it and she'll be concentrating on Sydney right now which again shows her professionalism, after all who's French No.1? Allez MarWhat you say is true except one point : As she said on a French radio December 27th, she doesn’t want to say anything concerning Fed cup and Olympic games. These subjects get on her nerves.

Concerning Georges Goven, the story is old. His father explains that at the beginning of Marion’s career, some official French coachs ask him to let one of them working with her. Because he was the problem. He said ok. But 6 months later, he saw no improvement. And he asked why. The coach answered to him : “ Marion is not talented” contrary to what he said 6 months earlier. And this coach is …………..Georges Goven.

Link : http://crdp.ac-clermont.fr/cddp43/cd43/velaustralie/sport/sport.htm

« Par exemple, un celebre entraineur et ex numero 1 francais m'a dit un jour que Marion etait douee et que sa seule barriere c etait moi. Je l ai donc ecoute et pris du recul, 6 mois apres, les resultats dé Marion ayant chuté, je l ai revu. Il m a alors dit que de toutes facons, Marion n etait pas douee.. ».

This is the lacking key if you want to understand difficult relationships between Marion and Goven.

« They cannot accept that a doctor can be a tennis coach and put his girl to this level; it’s just too hard for their mind,” she said. “I always wanted to say to those persons, ‘You know, I think you are bad, and I think my dad is good, and I always knew I would be a top player. You have to be a little more respectful to a girl like me».
Extract from famous article in New York times (August 27th 2007)

bruce goose
Jan 5th, 2008, 05:25 PM
Just a wondrous coincidence...that's what my heart led me to nickname you at that particular moment(btw,McWilliams's avatar::hearts::hearts:)...Yeah,most tennis types put on a good show of politeness when you pointedly ask their opinion of someone else;it's when they let their guard down that you hear contempt for others in their statements.Fortunately,Marion doesn't need their stinkin' approval to do her best.

Given the fact that the French needed to 'borrow' from other countries to produce RG champions(Noah from the francophone former colonies and Pierce--who's basically a gringa--from the U.S.),they should be proud and supportive of their homegirl...then again,why should we expect LOGIC from the nation that brought us the insanity of Sartre?:lol: Is that a reference to my penchent for a certain girl group called Sugababes? How did you find out?

Lighter
Jan 5th, 2008, 05:44 PM
Just to tell you,Lighter,when you ask questions in conversational English,almost NO ONE says "Is Not";you use the contraction form "Isn't",as in "isn't she lovely",otherwise it will sound very strange when you speak.

To answer your question:Yes,Emmanuelle is tall & stunning and she is too pretty and healthy-looking to be a model,actually.Most models are WAY too skinny and they appear sickly but Emmanuelle is nicely well-shaped as most athletes are.My curiosity was in finding out if you liked her personality,too--or is it just her beauty?Our lovely,kissable modern feminist,'Super M',might have the same query for you(ain't that right,sugar babe?;))Both. Emmanuelle decided to stop. And Marion is now top 10.

I hope you to understand my french english.

bruce goose
Jan 5th, 2008, 05:59 PM
Your English is actually quite excellent;I just have an advantage over you since I was raised in the States and learned it fluently when I was young.I usually only comment on grammar if there is a bigger mistake that might make it harder for someone to communicate.

It's a big contrast with the former partners;as you said,Marion is a star and Emmanuelle never won a single WTA match(ITF only).BOTH are beautiful gifts of femininity to my eyes,but only our Marion has a shot at the Aussie Open.:) Both. Emmanuelle decided to stop. And Marion is now top 10.

I hope you to understand my french english.

Lighter
Jan 5th, 2008, 06:30 PM
Your English is actually quite excellent;I just have an advantage over you since I was raised in the States and learned it fluently when I was young.I usually only comment on grammar if there is a bigger mistake that might make it harder for someone to communicate.

It's a big contrast with the former partners;as you said,Marion is a star and Emmanuelle never won a single WTA match(ITF only).BOTH are beautiful gifts of femininity to my eyes,but only our Marion has a shot at the Aussie Open.:)First of all Sydney vs Na Li. For your information, Noah and Pierce's mothers and are french. Of course they won RG but they are not the lonely french RG winners after 2nd world war (1946 : Marcel Bernard and 1967 : Françoise Dürr).
You know Mathilde Johansson is also half swedish/half french. And Marion is corsican from a village named "Palneca". There is many miles between Sweden and Corsican. They have many things in common : they are french, french champions 16s, pretty and have a shot at AO.

bruce goose
Jan 5th, 2008, 08:32 PM
That's actually your second time with 'lonely'...'seulement' is ONLY in English;'lonely' is when you are 'triste' because nobody is with you.:)

Yeah,I knew about both moms being French,but you have to admit that Yannick LOOKS much more Cameroonian than he does French.;)I'll give you Yannick but that still doesn't leave too many francais(3) since WW2.Whenever I've seen Pierce talk to herself in frustration on the tennis court,she's spoken English.All of her famous boyfriends speak English...the only time I've seen her speak French is at RG.:lol:

I knew about Johansson also;she is actually the hottest-looking 'French' girl(with a SWEDISH name;))in my opinion--though I'm not counting any anonymous beauties who play ITF only.I believe that sweet Marion has a MUCH better chance than Mathilde at AO,wouldn't you agree?:) First of all Sydney vs Na Li. For your information, Noah and Pierce's mothers and are french. Of course they won RG but they are not the lonely french RG winners after 2nd world war (1946 : Marcel Bernard and 1967 : Françoise Dürr).
You know Mathilde Johansson is also half swedish/half french. And Marion is corsican from a village named "Palneca". There is many miles between Sweden and Corsican. They have many things in common : they are french, french champions 16s, pretty and have a shot at AO.

Super_Marion
Jan 5th, 2008, 11:53 PM
Palneca! I didnt know that. Lighter i'm impressed by your knowledge :)

Super_Marion
Jan 6th, 2008, 12:19 AM
The thing is, when Marion reached the Wimb final all of a sudden she was wanted by Goven to play on the squad. Before that she stated that she didn't want to play unless she got a 'real' match anyway. Marion's never needed the FFT, she and her father have gone it alone. Right now, French tennis needs Bartoli on their side without the likes of Mauresmo and Pierce, and having to rely on the Russian born and 'more talented' Golovin always. Why should Marion change whats always been the same and take instructions from someone else out there? She shouldn't! Not after the comments that were made against her she shouldn't. You're right, she's a professional. The remarks that were made against her from Golovin didn't surprise me at all, but the comment from Amelie did however. I do have to disagree with her though. I think Marion has to be one of thee most talented players out there to play the way she does and be so limited movement wise yet still be top10 and to have achieved what she has. I think that Amelie is definetly being bias when she says that. Anyways, I'm sure Marion's not worried about it and she'll be concentrating on Sydney right now which again shows her professionalism, after all who's French No.1? Allez Mar
Well said McWilliams.

Just one thing, Marion moves better than people realise.

bruce goose
Jan 6th, 2008, 12:29 AM
Well,in my Yahoo messages the query existed but you apparently edited it out of your post;perhaps you accepted my explanation that it WAS a coincidence(which it was).:D

I'd LOVE to see Marion move well against Gold Coast champion Na Li down there in Sydney...it's not intended as a slight on Mary Pierce,but what do you honestly think of my statement that she's really a gringa instead of francais since she yells out "Shit!" and not "Meird!" when she has a fit of anger on court?:lol: Well said McWilliams.

Just one thing, Marion moves better than people realise.

Super_Marion
Jan 6th, 2008, 12:48 AM
I say that too.. like lastnight when I ran through cow sh!t on the road in the dark.. all mushy with the rain.

Anyways... To whom it may concern, if you rss/subscribe to my posts or blogs, then appreciate that what you read in your inbox will probably be edited half a dozen times in the following 24hrs. I tend to rush stuff. The reread it, and discover it's a mess.

panda's are for hugging.. NOT deep frying! :o

bruce goose
Jan 6th, 2008, 01:24 AM
Glad to learn that you didn't go sliding off the road into a pasture;do you think that it smells worse when it's wet or does the moisture lessen the odor?I haven't gotten a whiff of cow pies in such a long time that I've honestly forgotten.

Since pandas belong to the social hierarchy of animals that are at least semi-intelligent,I'll emotionally support any efforts you make to protect them.However,I'm slightly leery that "Pandas are for hugging...NOT deep frying" might be the name of a book that you read....You've tricked me that way before;) I say that too.. like lastnight when I ran through cow sh!t on the road in the dark.. all mushy with the rain.

Anyways... To whom it may concern, if you rss/subscribe to my posts or blogs, then appreciate that what you read in your inbox will probably be edited half a dozen times in the following 24hrs. I tend to rush stuff. The reread it, and discover it's a mess.

panda's are for hugging.. NOT deep frying! :o

BartoliBabes
Jan 6th, 2008, 10:37 AM
Well said McWilliams.

Just one thing, Marion moves better than people realise.

That's true, but she is restricted somewhat

Lighter
Jan 6th, 2008, 11:34 AM
Palneca! I didnt know that. Lighter i'm impressed by your knowledge :)Just for you : http://www.ligue.fft.fr/corse/30L01000_a/cms/index_public.php?PHPSESSID=8565b242297e488affefbed 11d8dcbf6&us_action=show_note&ui_id_site=1&ui_id_doc=1000000013

Her corsican grand parents were in central court during Wimbledon final.

Na Li withdraw, Marion will play LL south tyrolian Italian Karin Knapp.

Super_Marion
Jan 6th, 2008, 04:00 PM
very nice find lighter :)

I know little about Corsica, except that they have a great heritage of food and agriculture.. exact opposite of Scotland! Maybe this explains Marion's love of cuisine. :)

I have used Bartoli pesto. That must be Marion's ancestors :bounce:

I wonder if Marion is related to the opera singer Cecilia Bartoli..

Super_Marion
Jan 6th, 2008, 04:10 PM
Glad to learn that you didn't go sliding off the road into a pasture;do you think that it smells worse when it's wet or does the moisture lessen the odor?I haven't gotten a whiff of cow pies in such a long time that I've honestly forgotten.

Since pandas belong to the social hierarchy of animals that are at least semi-intelligent,I'll emotionally support any efforts you make to protect them.However,I'm slightly leery that "Pandas are for hugging...NOT deep frying" might be the name of a book that you read....You've tricked me that way before;)

Actually lastnight it was raining, so slugs where the hazard. Stand on them and they make the surface of the road slippy.

Eeeeeww. This topic is anything but bon appetit!!

Glad you like panda :)

Lighter
Jan 6th, 2008, 05:05 PM
very nice find lighter :)

I know little about Corsica, except that they have a great heritage of food and agriculture.. exact opposite of Scotland! Maybe this explains Marion's love of cuisine. :)

I have used Bartoli pesto. That must be Marion's ancestors :bounce:

I wonder if Marion is related to the opera singer Cecilia Bartoli..Neither Cecilia nor Michele Bartoli. Bartoli is a common name in Italy. Here is a list of most famous Bartoli :
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartoli

Concerning Palneca, just read that for fun : http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palneca

Marion's ancestors are not all angels. It is easy to understand why she is so tenacious, why she can be considered like a warrior.

nouf
Jan 7th, 2008, 08:26 AM
great article equipe 7 jan 2008
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/4783/bartoliequipe7jan2008ef2.th.jpg (http://www.wtatour.fr/showthread.php?p=3606#post3606)

more news on http://www.marion-bartoli.tk

sorcerer
Jan 7th, 2008, 10:32 AM
Merci bcp nouf :)

Je trouve que leur maniere d'expliquation et de parler, ca veut dire tres ouverte et tres realiste est super. :bounce:

Lighter
Jan 7th, 2008, 11:03 AM
After this aticle, it is easy to understand why Marion doesn't want to practice with someone else, in perticular Loïc Courteau during Fed cup period.

They have implemented their own training plan and schedule.

Next match vs Schiavone.

Super_Marion
Jan 7th, 2008, 01:54 PM
thanks nouf

Super_Marion
Jan 7th, 2008, 04:16 PM
my first impulse when I saw that L'Equipe photo was... *aaaww*... Such a genuine closeness that it leaves one rather warmhearted and sublime :)

Iceland
Jan 7th, 2008, 04:45 PM
Great article! It sounds so exciting, hope she can show all her improvements in 2008! :)

bruce goose
Jan 7th, 2008, 04:56 PM
My suspicion is that Marion would also be a loyal,devoted wife--pro'bly post-career--if she ever found a worthy husband.Unfortunately,the marriage/divorce turnstile is so free-flowing that the institution has become a bigger joke in 'civilized' continental Europe than it is in the U.S.:o---and THAT'S quite an accomplishment.:help:...Mexico's starting to get much worse,too.:sad:my first impulse when I saw that L'Equipe photo was... *aaaww*... Such a genuine closeness that it leaves one rather warmhearted and sublime :)

Super_Marion
Jan 7th, 2008, 06:58 PM
kaaaay.. what's that go to with it?

sorcerer
Jan 7th, 2008, 07:32 PM
A full translation of the whole article is now available on the website. Enjoy! :bounce:

Nouf thank you once again for the scan of the article. ;)

bruce goose
Jan 8th, 2008, 01:06 AM
kaaaay.. what's that go to with it?My intent was to convey the point that loyalty is frequently a consistent personality trait.I think that it would really be something to actually KNOW Marion even in a platonic,Dr.Lechter-Clarice Starling sort of way.

Super_Marion
Jan 8th, 2008, 03:41 PM
Ok. That's good then. Hey we jinxed whyself the other night.... Remember those mushy cow pies? Well yesterday morning this road was in deep freeze mode. 7am. Pitch dark. Right foot slams into a brick hard pile of cow dung. Cuts and bruises but nothing serious. lol. I still got back in pb time to find out Marion had won!! :)

Today isnt so sweet :(

bruce goose
Jan 8th, 2008, 11:25 PM
Sorry to hear of your cuts and bruises but glad that it wasn't worse than that...those frozen pies would probably be considered elite cuisine in Scotland,huh?

Yeah,it's too bad that Marion lost but Schiavone is a tough player sometimes so losing to her isn't necessarily a sign of serious problems.Obviously we're hoping for better at AO.:)Ok. That's good then. Hey we jinxed whyself the other night.... Remember those mushy cow pies? Well yesterday morning this road was in deep freeze mode. 7am. Pitch dark. Right foot slams into a brick hard pile of cow dung. Cuts and bruises but nothing serious. lol. I still got back in pb time to find out Marion had won!! :)

Today isnt so sweet :(

Super_Marion
Jan 9th, 2008, 02:51 PM
Yes. But i'm concerned about the effect the conditions may be having on her.

Ok, she is a professional player who tours the world playing in all kinds of conditions. Still, I'd be more comfortable with her playing on a cool windy evening at Wimbledon.

Come play the local clay court.. Today would be stormforce snow tennis! :D

nouf
Jan 14th, 2008, 10:22 AM
tennis magazine janvier 2008
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sorcerer
Jan 14th, 2008, 11:13 AM
Thanks for the scan Nouf. A warning my computer deleted an attempted trojan attack when one of the pages was loading up! :eek:

The article well some of it seems a bit old coming after the other two interviews in Tribune de Geneve and L'Equipe but most of it is very interesting.

bruce goose
Jan 19th, 2008, 02:13 AM
Hey,Lighter,in the midst of our collective grief let me say that you seem fairly handy with facts and figures.Perhaps you know:is the gigantic Uzbek Amanmuradova(6'3") the tallest WTA player EVER or is she only the biggest one currently?Maybe there was someone of equal height in the past.Anyone else with assured knowledge is welcome to answer,of course...and MARION,we're sure that you have LOTS more to show the tennis world as 2008 unfolds.:worship:After this aticle, it is easy to understand why Marion doesn't want to practice with someone else, in perticular Loïc Courteau during Fed cup period.

They have implemented their own training plan and schedule.

Next match vs Schiavone.

bruce goose
Jan 22nd, 2008, 03:14 AM
Well,I just had a flashback to a Marionettes discussion which took place here after Marion's loss in the USO last year.There's a reasonable school of thought which argues that you should stick with what you do best and not try to vary from that.However,it's hard to imagine the top battlefield generals using the precise same attack strategy every single time.I'm pretty sure it was Einstein who defined insanity as doing the exact same thing while expecting different results.

In case you're wondering at my point here,it is that Marion may be well advised to employ at least SOME of Jankovic's tactics for her future encounters with the Wiliams girls.When you tally Jelena's last four meetings with each sister,you see that she has a 6-2 record and the two losses came during remarkable runs--Serena's to the AO title and Venus's to the USO final.That's not good luck,THAT'S what you call a trend.Jelena is one of three women EVER who have notched 3 victories each vs. Venus AND Serena.The others are Arantxa,Lindsay and Hingis,and JJ is the only one in this group who is .500 or better vs. both Williamses.With Marion's battling spirit,I'm hoping that she'll do WHATEVER is necessary,tennis-wise,to overcome her most challenging opponents...regardless,she's still my soulful sweetie.:)

Lighter
Jan 23rd, 2008, 04:52 PM
Huge surprise : http://www.fedcup.com/news/newsarticle.asp?articleid=11239

Marion is included in French Fed cup team with Amélie, Virginie and Nathalie. Tatiana is injured. But it is strange concerning Aravane.......

Maybe Amélie has achieved to convince Marion to play when they were together in Geneva....It is strange.....

I am waiting for Marion's answer.

Super_Marion
Jan 24th, 2008, 02:33 PM
Lighter, has Golovin withdrawn from any other tournaments?

Super_Marion
Jan 24th, 2008, 02:53 PM
Well,I just had a flashback to a Marionettes discussion which took place here after Marion's loss in the USO last year.There's a reasonable school of thought which argues that you should stick with what you do best and not try to vary from that.However,it's hard to imagine the top battlefield generals using the precise same attack strategy every single time.I'm pretty sure it was Einstein who defined insanity as doing the exact same thing while expecting different results.

In case you're wondering at my point here,it is that Marion may be well advised to employ at least SOME of Jankovic's tactics for her future encounters with the Wiliams girls.When you tally Jelena's last four meetings with each sister,you see that she has a 6-2 record and the two losses came during remarkable runs--Serena's to the AO title and Venus's to the USO final.That's not good luck,THAT'S what you call a trend.Jelena is one of three women EVER who have notched 3 victories each vs. Venus AND Serena.The others are Arantxa,Lindsay and Hingis,and JJ is the only one in this group who is .500 or better vs. both Williamses.With Marion's battling spirit,I'm hoping that she'll do WHATEVER is necessary,tennis-wise,to overcome her most challenging opponents...regardless,she's still my soulful sweetie.:)

Bruce! Have you swallowed an Alice down that rabbit hole of yours?! That post is like one of mine! Even down to the "soulful" thingy..... :D

rudie rudie wa gwam :o :)

maybeez i should be scared ysee me..

bruce goose
Jan 24th, 2008, 03:58 PM
:)You lost me with 'rudie rudie wa gwam';I'd have thought that it might be some sort of secret Masonic greeting...except those robed wackos rarely allow women to enter.;)

Yes,with our mutual appreciation of Marion and Ayn Rand,I suspect that we could've been a pretty smokin' couple.You know,the kind that argues heatedly & vigorously sometimes...then re-unites afterwards with wild:kiss::kiss:.I'm sure that it would be tremendously satisfying to plant a firm Muzzle Kiss on you.:)In case you're unfamiliar with that term,it usually occurs when a closely-knit,loving couple has a passionate argument,sans hatred,and then the man suddenly embraces his chica and smothers her lips mid-verse.She issues a muffled protest for a split second and then postpones the spat while surrendering to the passion.;)The softer version happens when a guy strategically tells his sweetie to 'look over there'(at nothing significant).When she turns back around,quizzically,then:kiss::hearts::hearts::hear ts:

Getting back to Marion,what did you think of my suggestions concerning battle strategy?...as always,your saucy tongue is welcome to be honest.:) Bruce! Have you swallowed an Alice down that rabbit hole of yours?! That post is like one of mine! Even down to the "soulful" thingy..... :D

rudie rudie wa gwam :o :)

maybeez i should be scared ysee me..

Lighter
Jan 24th, 2008, 06:43 PM
Lighter, has Golovin withdrawn from any other tournaments?We'll only know tomorrow if she could play for french team next week in China.

And Marion won't go to Pekin. She confirmed her wish not to play without her father.

We are waiting for Amélie's decision.

Super_Marion
Jan 25th, 2008, 06:06 PM
:)You lost me with 'rudie rudie wa gwam';I'd have thought that it might be some sort of secret Masonic greeting...except those robed wackos rarely allow women to enter.;)

Yes,with our mutual appreciation of Marion and Ayn Rand,I suspect that we could've been a pretty smokin' couple.You know,the kind that argues heatedly & vigorously sometimes...then re-unites afterwards with wild:kiss::kiss:.I'm sure that it would be tremendously satisfying to plant a firm Muzzle Kiss on you.:)In case you're unfamiliar with that term,it usually occurs when a closely-knit,loving couple has a passionate argument,sans hatred,and then the man suddenly embraces his chica and smothers her lips mid-verse.She issues a muffled protest for a split second and then postpones the spat while surrendering to the passion.;)The softer version happens when a guy strategically tells his sweetie to 'look over there'(at nothing significant).When she turns back around,quizzically,then:kiss::hearts::hearts::hear ts:

Getting back to Marion,what did you think of my suggestions concerning battle strategy?...as always,your saucy tongue is welcome to be honest.:)
....... forward much............ :help:

bruce goose
Jan 25th, 2008, 06:19 PM
Unlike with a face-to-face conversation,your intended messages aren't always terribly clear with your silly-Brit cryptic approaches...but I'll let you keep your thoughts within your cerebral inner sanctum if you wish.;)

BTW,Marionettes,a self-proclaimed tennis expert has told me that Amanmuradova IS the tallest player ever(unequaled in height).Fortunately for other players,her skills don't match her altitude.:)....... forward much............ :help:

Super_Marion
Jan 26th, 2008, 08:06 PM
Unlike with a face-to-face conversation,your intended messages aren't always terribly clear with your silly-Brit cryptic approaches...but I'll let you keep your thoughts within your cerebral inner sanctum if you wish.;)

You dont need to be brain surgeon to know it means... very direct indeed / overly familiar...

bruce goose
Jan 26th, 2008, 08:35 PM
You dont need to be brain surgeon to know it means... very direct indeed / overly familiar...Yep,typical female:lol:...you're too afraid to be overly blunt so you expect guys to compensate by de-crypting your various codes.To be even-handed,there ARE times when men--AND women,too--don't take time to read obvious signs...Anyhow,if you MUST label me dumb for not cracking your secretive lingo,then that's a stripe I'll happily wear.:)

To ALL Marionettes:please feel free to share any relevant info on the upcoming Davis Cup tie.It's amazingly easy to obtain & use an illegal satellite dish without consequences down here...but I TRY to be law-abiding and have never bothered with one.As a result,I won't get any Cup TV coverage and will depend on fellow Marion fans for updates.:wavey:

bruce goose
Jan 28th, 2008, 04:30 AM
This may not seem to be big news to some folks,but the person who supplies the official Fed Cup pics for the French team must be as thick as a brick.Marion has one of THE dazzling smiles on the Tour...so this genius supplies a photo that looks like she's prepping for root canal surgery.

That might sound shallow but there has been an distressing number of dear folks who have been stricken with dangerously-ill health recently,and Marion's sunshine is a welcome escape from this sort of bad news.I'll still be cheering her on this weekend:bounce: and will take great satisfaction from seeing her lead her team to victory in a manner that silences her naysayers...allez Marion!:worship:

sorcerer
Jan 28th, 2008, 08:54 PM
If you are talking about the photo I think you are talking about... then it is a very old one from when Marion was last in the French Fed Cup team. And that was a very long time ago...;)

By the way she is not playing this week.

bruce goose
Jan 29th, 2008, 05:15 AM
Really?Then who IS playing singles with Mauresmo?Dechy or someone else?If you are talking about the photo I think you are talking about... then it is a very old one from when Marion was last in the French Fed Cup team. And that was a very long time ago...;)

By the way she is not playing this week.

Super_Marion
Jan 29th, 2008, 08:32 AM
BG.. If you had checked www.marion-bartoli.net or my blog, then you'll get the latest info on Mazza-Magnifique. :) Her participation in the Fed Cup tie has been in doubt for some time.

btw was gwam is jamaican lingo lol... :D now that's something even you cant imitate!

bruce goose
Jan 29th, 2008, 03:41 PM
Yeah,I went to high school with a NON-Americanized Jamaican and I remember his speaking Patois with his friends.It doesn't translate too easily into Spanish:)--OR English,for that matter.On a humorous sidenote,I also recall this guy's first taste of winter in the US.He had no frame of reference by which to anticipate coldness so he only wore a light jacket one morning.His lips looked gigantic in their frozen state and saliva poured over the numb,lower one as he shivered EXACTLY as a cartoon character would have...it was pretty hilarious and it reminded me of the Jamaican bobsled team.

I had heard what you mentioned regarding the uncertainty of Marion's Fed participation but I figured that this had been settled when I saw her listed with the team on the website.Her photo is actually placed ABOVE Mauresmo's though I suppose that this is customary considering that Marion is ranked HIGHER.Take THAT,"Momo".:)BG.. If you had checked www.marion-bartoli.net or my blog, then you'll get the latest info on Mazza-Magnifique. :) Her participation in the Fed Cup tie has been in doubt for some time.

btw was gwam is jamaican lingo lol... :D now that's something even you cant imitate!

RigelMac
Jan 30th, 2008, 07:42 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080128/sp_wl_afp/tennisfedcupchnframauresmo_080128165702

PARIS (AFP) - France have selected Alize Cornet and Pauline Parmentier in place of newly-dethroned Australian Open champion Amelie Mauresmo and top-ten compatriot Marion Bartoli for their Fed Cup encounter with China in Beijing next weekend.

Both Mauresmo and Bartoli had declined their invites for the squad but French captain Georges Goven initially said he would expect to be able to count on both as well as Virginie Razzano and Nathalie Dechy.

"The French team defends its values and principles and has to come first," Goven insisted last week, adding he wanted to select the strongest team possible.

But a French Tennis Federation staement said that Cornet and Parmentier would instead be taking their places for the Chinese test which will see the French without their top three female players in Mauresmo, Bartoli and back injury victim Tatiana Golovin.

bruce goose
Jan 31st, 2008, 02:48 PM
Razzano isn't as high-profile as Pierce,Mauresmo,Golovin and some others because she has only recently found her stride after a few years of notable inconsistency.Does Marion have any sort of relationship with her or are the two of them basically indifferent to each other,neither positive nor negative?

Lighter
Jan 31st, 2008, 07:55 PM
Razzano isn't as high-profile as Pierce,Mauresmo,Golovin and some others because she has only recently found her stride after a few years of notable inconsistency.Does Marion have any sort of relationship with her or are the two of them basically indifferent to each other,neither positive nor negative?Virginie is now a good top 30. We can trust her. Moreover, she is the lonely french player to have good relationships with all french TOP 100 including Marion and Aravane. I remember her saying that Marion has deserved her new ranking owing to hard train she has made for a long time.

She is a nice girl. No problem with her. She is the lonely french player who speak with Aravane Rezaï. That's why I guess Goven to choose Aravane instead of Pauline. But it is too early. Last year problem between Goven and Aravane's father remain too harmful.

bruce goose
Feb 1st, 2008, 12:40 AM
Thanks for the update,Lighter;you are an excellent source of information relating to our queen.I've read that Bremond is also friendly with Marion but people don't comment on that since Severine is not highly successful.

You forgot what I taught you in English;);'seul' is 'ONLY' not 'LONELY',Lighter.I've forgotten the exact word in French,but 'lonely' basically means "triste sans aucuns amis".We both hope that Razzano isn't suffering this way.:)Virginie is now a good top 30. We can trust her. Moreover, she is the lonely french player to have good relationships with all french TOP 100 including Marion and Aravane. I remember her saying that Marion has deserved her new ranking owing to hard train she has made for a long time.

She is a nice girl. No problem with her. She is the lonely french player who speak with Aravane Rezaï. That's why I guess Goven to choose Aravane instead of Pauline. But it is too early. Last year problem between Goven and Aravane's father remain too harmful.

Iceland
Feb 3rd, 2008, 02:52 PM
An interview of Marion about FedCup & Open GDF ; I will translate later if I have time :

Tennis - WTA - GDF - Bartoli reste stoïque

http://www.lequipe.fr/Xml/Tennis/Titres/Media/030208_bartoli11.jpg
Dans une ambiance conviviale, Marion Bartoli (http://www.lequipe.fr/Tennis/TFJF_500000000002891.html) (Photo L'Equipe) est revenue sur la Fed Cup, son niveau de jeu, sa déception australienne et ses ambitions lors de l'Open Gaz de France. La numéro 1 française arrive pour la première fois à Paris avec un nouveau statut, une position de tête de série n°3 mais avec détermination et envie de retrouver le terrain.

«Marion Bartoli, comment vivez-vous la polémique en Fed Cup ? Est-ce que cela vous a déstabilisée ?
Honnêtement, il en faut plus pour me déstabiliser. Il y a eu beaucoup d'articles qui ont été faits là-dessus, le résultat est que je n'ai pas joué, tout le monde le sait. Cela ne m'a pas déstabilisée plus que cela, c'est plus impressionnant de jouer une finale de Grand Chelem sur un central plein que de ne pas être sélectionnée en Fed Cup. Je pense que je peux m'en remettre. Je crois qu'un athlète de haut niveau est très fort dans sa tête. Notre force est qu'on arrive à faire la différence entre l'extra-tennis et le tennis proprement dit. Quand on entre sur le terrain, on ne pense pas à tout ce qui s'est passé avant, à tous les articles ou les différents "problèmes" qu'on a pu avoir. Cela n'a pas été évident à gérer. Ce qui me dérange un peu plus, c'est le problème des Jeux Olympiques.

Est-ce qu'il est encore possible que vous jouiez fin avril en Fed Cup ?
Cela dépend aussi des résultats et de la forme du moment. En perdant au premier tour de l'Open d'Australie, je n'étais peut-être pas la meilleure joueuse pour représenter la France. Il y a des filles qui ont mieux joué que moi en Australie, il faut être honnête, je n'ai pas d'orgueil mal placé. Quand il y a des filles qui jouent mieux, il faut aussi le reconnaître même si elles sont moins bien classées. En Australie, il y avait des filles plus en forme que moi. Si j'avais voulu jouer absolument, peut-être que "j'aurais fait perdre la France" parce que je n'aurais pas eu le niveau de mon classement.

Quels arguments pouvez-vous apporter au grand public pour qu'il comprenne votre choix ?
Beaucoup d'articles de presse sont parus là-dessus. J'ai un peu de mal à répéter toujours la même chose. Pour mon entrée en Fed Cup, j'avais posé quelques conditions. Malheureusement, ces conditions n'ont pas pu être respectées. Mon intégration n'a pas pu être possible cette année. Mais je pense que ce n'est que partie remise. J'espère vraiment à terme pouvoir trouver une solution avec la Fédération pour arriver à ce que je puisse représenter mon pays et arriver à faire la plus belle chose, c'est-à-dire gagner pour son pays. Il n'y a pas de plus belles sensations que de gagner pour son pays. Pour cela, il faut arriver à quelques accords avec la Fédération. Pour l'instant, on ne les a pas trouvés. Il y a la Fed Cup et le problème des Jeux Olympiques. En refusant cette sélection, le président m'a annoncé que je n'étais pas sélectionnable pour les Jeux Olympiques. C'est un double problème à gérer pour moi, ce n'est pas évident. J'essaie maintenant de me concentrer sur le plus important, c'est-à-dire bien me sentir sur le terrain, bien jouer au tennis et avoir de bonnes sensations. Il ne faut pas oublier que je représente la France toute l'année. A chaque fois que je gagne un match, c'est pour la France.

Revenons à l'Open Gaz de France, vous êtes tête de série n°3, vous êtes une des stars de ce tournoi.
Eh oui, contre toute attente. C'est vraiment un honneur de participer au Gaz de France, je suis vraiment très heureuse d'y être. J'ai vraiment hâte que le tournoi commence, ce sera un bel événement comme chaque année. J'arrive cette année avec un petit plus d'ambitions que les années précédentes. J'espère que j'arriverai à réaliser mes objectifs. Au-delà de cela, j'espère attaquer mon premier match avec le soutien du public. J'attends avec impatience ce moment-là.

Votre état d'esprit et vos attentes sont différentes des années précédentes ?
Forcément. Quand on a vécu une finale de Grand Chelem et qu'on est Top 10 mondial, on vient avec un peu plus d'ambitions que quand on est 30e, on a un peu plus d'objectifs et on attend un peu plus de soi. Cela peut être à double-tranchant parce qu'en voulant trop bien faire, en se mettant trop de pression, en ayant beaucoup de pression médiatique avant le tournoi, ce n'est pas facile à gérer. Surtout pour moi qui suis assez jeune. Cela a été dur à encaisser cette défaite au premier tour à l'Open d'Australie, j'ai eu du mal à m'en remettre. Mais la meilleure façon de s'en remettre est de repartir sur le terrain. J'ai essayé de re-progresser chaque jour à l'entraînement et de re-gagner des matches, c'est ce que j'ai fait et j'espère bien jouer ici.

Que pensez-vous de votre tableau ?
Cela ne va pas être facile le premier tour contre Bye (rires). Il faudra bien se préparer contre Bye, ce n'est jamais évident. Avec Camille Pin, on s'est joué pas mal de fois, Cibulkova, jamais. Mais j'essaie de me préparer pour être bien de mon côté et après je vois comment cela se passe. Je suis vraiment contente de revenir à Paris. L'an dernier, cela m'a manqué. Je suis vraiment heureuse de retrouver le terrain.

Comment vous sentez-vous ?
Cela pourrait aller mieux. L'Open d'Australie a été un peu difficile pour moi dans la mesure où je pensais l'avoir bien préparé. Je n'avais jamais bien joué là-bas et j'espérais faire quelque chose de bien, ce ne sera pas pour cette année. J'espère pour l'année prochaine. Ici, c'est un autre tournoi, un nouvel événement et j'espère jouer mon meilleur tennis.

Le soutien du public peut-il vous aider ?
Quand on n'est pas trop en confiance, cela peut aider d'avoir le public derrière soi, d'avoir des encouragements soutenus. J'ai toujours aimé ce tournoi. Je l'ai joué pas mal de fois dans les qualifs ou le tableau, je n'ai jamais très, très bien joué, j'espère cette année faire mieux.

Vous êtes en recherche des sensations de 2007 ?
Quand on a atteint des sommets comme je les ai atteints en 2007, on a envie que cela se reproduise chaque jour quand on prend la raquette. Malheureusement, comme dans tout sport, ce n'est pas le cas. Il faut faire avec des jours sans, avec des jours plus durs. On a envie que tout se passe bien et que la demi-finale de Wimbledon se reproduise à chaque fois qu'on joue un match de tennis. Malheureusement, ce n'est pas le cas, c'est vrai que c'est un peu frustrant. J'essaie de mettre de côté cette année 2007, c'était un bel épisode de ma carrière, j'espère qu'il y en aura d'autres, mais j'essaie de me concentrer vers l'avenir et ne pas regarder sans arrêt en arrière.»

sorcerer
Feb 4th, 2008, 05:58 PM
I have done a translation and it is available on the website.

Marion repeats that she wants to play well alot of times. After Australia a good result this week on her return to the action is so important.

Softly, softly comments about the Fed Cup, but I thought she made a big comment about winning for your country and representing France. Detect a disappointment over the Olympics and maybe taking a softer line with crowd support just slightly in doubt after the Fed Cup loss?

Best part for me is Marion's comments about Bye. :lol: Interviewer getting what they deserve for some poorly worded questions.

bruce goose
Feb 4th, 2008, 06:14 PM
Yeah,Sorcerer,sports journalists often have an inflated view of their brains and relevance;they need to get verbally smacked once in a while.:lol:

Most intelligent fans won't blame Marion for the Fed Cup loss(we can't account for morons).China plays EXCELLENT doubles so it would've been hard for ANY duo to defeat them...and you know that Na Li will get at least one point when playing on her home soil.That forces their opponent to take all of the other three available points to win the tie.I normally couldn't care less how France does but I do for Marion's sake.China was a VERY tough 1st-round foe and I suspect that France will bounce back strongly later this year...I wonder,though,was Goven's family in the leadership of the Vichy government?He seems to fit the profile;a lot of hot air with a willingness to surrender in the face of a threat.:lol: I have done a translation and it is available on the website.

Marion repeats that she wants to play well alot of times. After Australia a good result this week on her return to the action is so important.

Softly, softly comments about the Fed Cup, but I thought she made a big comment about winning for your country and representing France. Detect a disappointment over the Olympics and maybe taking a softer line with crowd support just slightly in doubt after the Fed Cup loss?

Best part for me is Marion's comments about Bye. :lol: Interviewer getting what they deserve for some poorly worded questions.

Super_Marion
Feb 5th, 2008, 09:02 AM
Sorcerer thanks for your translation work. I havent had the chance to even read yet. But thanks :)

Bruce Goose.... "vichy" lol :D

MARION..... GO GET 'EM BABE!!!

bruce goose
Feb 5th, 2008, 03:19 PM
No one should be denied the right to express their opinions(although INFORMED opinions are preferable).However,it's funny how many of the French express such silly double standards.They absolutely bitch and whine ad nauseum whenever the US has a military endeavor...but they didn't seem to mind it when the gringos rescued their 'arses';)on two occasions--first from the Kaiser,then from Hitler...oh well,it's nice that Marion defines herself by her own ethos.:)

Speaking of our queen,she has typically used her countrywoman Pin as a punching bag(5-1 lifetime),but she WON'T be facing Camille in the second round because Cibulkova just dismissed her.The young Slovak should provide a stern test for Marion....I'll refrain from commenting on Dominika's appearance 'cos you've already inferred my thoughts on that.:lol:Sorcerer thanks for your translation work. I havent had the chance to even read yet. But thanks :)

Bruce Goose.... "vichy" lol :D

MARION..... GO GET 'EM BABE!!!

Lighter
Feb 5th, 2008, 08:29 PM
If you speak french, it will be easier to understand her : http://video.eurosport.fr/tennis/wta-paris/2008/video_vid63858.shtml

Marion explains how was her disappointment in Australia compared to wishes. She will play Cibulkova next thursday and she did not know yet. I hope her to reach at least semi final and confidence.

bruce goose
Feb 7th, 2008, 05:36 PM
THIS is interesting;since Razzano will probably finish off Cornet in a few minutes,this means that Marion will face the one top-ranked French player who DOESN'T act like a shrew towards her...btw,Cornet still seems like just a young girl(it's hard to picture that SHE would bad-mouth Marion,either).

There apparently isn't any on-court rivalry between our Queen and Razzano because they haven't played in over EIGHT YEARS(and that was the only time).That was so long ago that Marion still had acne back then.Though I want to see her succeed,it's too bad if it has to happen vs. Virginie.Perhaps THIS will be the tourney when Marion finally kicks Mauresmo's ass:devil:...she's ripe for it.

Iceland
Feb 7th, 2008, 07:26 PM
An interview with Marion :

Bartoli : « Un bon début »

19:00 - 07/02/2008 - Sylvain COULLON
Très attendue lors de son entrée en lice, Marion Bartoli n’a pas déçu en venant à bout de Dominika Cibulkova. Malgré un premier set crispé, la Française est satisfaite de son jeu à la veille d’affronter une compatriote en quart de finale. (Photo : Panoramic)

Marion, comment jugez-vous cette entrée en lice ?
Pour un match de rentrée, c’était pas mal. Ce n’est jamais facile de débuter un tournoi face à un adversaire qui a déjà une rencontre dans les jambes. Elle a bien entamé le match en courant sur toutes les balles. De mon côté j’avais du mal à aller de l’avant et à prendre la balle plus tôt. Je ne prenais pas assez de risques et je finissais toujours par faire des fautes bêtes. J’ai donc essayé de me concentrer pour être un peu plus agressive. Et le deuxième set n’était pas mal du tout.

Au service, votre première balle semblait plus sobre mais votre deuxième balle plus performante. Avez-vous changé quelque chose ?
Oui et je crois que ça s’est vu. J’ai beaucoup travaillé mon service pendant mes deux semaines et demie de coupure. J’ai changé mon impulsion au niveau des jambes et la façon dont j’attaque la balle. Cela faisait beaucoup d’un coup et j’ai eu besoin d’un petit temps d’adaptation. Je me suis retrouvée pas mal de fois à 0-40 et je suis parvenue à remonter. Je sers plus fort sur ma deuxième balle, ce qui m’évite de faire agresser dessus.

Vous sauvez dix balles de break sur onze aujourd’hui. Cela doit vous donner confiance…
Ma force quand je suis bien et concentrée, c’est de ne pas laisser filer et d’empêcher mon adversaire de penser qu’elle peut revenir dans la rencontre. J’essaie de gagner chaque point.

Etes-vous satisfaite de votre niveau de jeu ?
Le premier set a été dur. J’étais un peu tendue et pas vraiment dans le match au début. Mes placements étaient mauvais par rapport à la balle. J’avais du mal à évaluer les distances. Il a donc fallu que je fasse des ajustements. Le seul moyen de me décrisper était de mettre la pression sur mon adversaire, pour enlever celle qui pesait sur moi. Même si ça n’a pas fonctionné dès le début, je me suis détendue et j’ai été plus agressive au fil du match.
« J’adore ce tournoi »
Que vous a dit votre père lorsque vous avez fait appel à lui dès le cinquième jeu de la partie ?
Il m’a simplement rassuré en me disant que ce que je faisais n’était pas mal même si je n’avais pas le niveau que j’espérais. Je devais être plus agressive sur le jeu de jambes pour me décrisper au niveau du haut du corps. Or, j’ai besoin d’être très relâché des bras pour jouer dans le terrain.

Vous allez encore affronter une Française au prochain tour. Avez-vous une préférence entre Cornet et Razzano ?
Ce n’est jamais facile de jouer entre nous. Je n’ai pas rencontré Virginie depuis très longtemps. La seule fois, cela devait être vers 1999, dans un ITF au Havre. J’étais alors 1000eme mondiale… Ce n’est donc pas vraiment un match référence. Et je n’ai encore jamais affronté Alizé. Ce ne sera pas facile mais je partirai peut-être avec un léger avantage du fait de l’enchaînement avec leur retour en Chine.

Est-ce que le soutien du public vous a également aidé ?
Oui, c’était super. C’est pour ça que je ne suis pas vraiment enchantée d’affronter une Française. Le public sera forcément plus partagé. Mais j’adore vraiment ce tournoi et m’exprimer devant le public français, même si je n’ai pas toujours produit des grandes performances. J’avais plus de mal à supporter cette pression quand j’étais plus jeune, même si je ne suis pas très vieille (rire). L’an dernier, ça m’a manqué de ne pas venir jouer ici et cette année je voulais absolument être présente. Pour l’instant je passe une excellente semaine.

Iceland
Feb 20th, 2008, 10:27 AM
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh123/deiu-28/barto.jpg

Iceland
Feb 20th, 2008, 10:33 AM
This short article reveals that Marion fainted in the plane that took her to Doha. She had a gastro-enteritics and her illness worsened during the flight. She stayed in the bed having barely eaten till Sunday! She lost 4 kilos in 5 days :eek: and she wasn't at her best to play against Wozniacki. She was strenghthless yesterday.

Even though Marion is exaggerating a bit as she always does :lol: (a poster took pictures of her on courts this weekend in Doha), it's true that she lost weight. When I saw his pictures, it's the first thing that I noticed. I guess she wanted to give a try this week, but I wish she would withdraw when she is unhealthy, it would prevent some losses that ruin her confidence & her overall results ^^.

At least, she should be fine pour Dubaï. :yeah:

sorcerer
Feb 20th, 2008, 06:32 PM
Even though Marion is exaggerating a bit as she always does

Hey :wavey:

My friend I can't agree with you on this one from personal experience.

Last year in October it turned out I was one of the first people to experience the wave of gastro caused by the novovirus. What I went through is very similar to what Marion is describing. At first you don't feel well and you just think it will pass. But it gets worse and worse and you're soon on your way to the toilet.

Mine started at work and I was in the toilets for over 2 hours before I managed to struggle home on the bus. Everybody on the bus thought I was either completely drunk or high on drugs which was slightly :lol: listening to them all whispering away in French. By the time I got home it was even worse and I very very nearly lost consciousness in the bathroom. Things started going dark and spinning round.

My housemates helped me into bed...and from there it was an horrific night of frequent trips to the bathroom. And it is definitely not pretty! Lets just say I was sick at least 30 times, sometimes including blood.

The next day the worst was over but couldn't eat a thing. After that it takes a good two/three days to start eating anything apart from rice or fruit. And as for playing and winning a tennis match...:help:

Happily though she should be fine for Dubai....:cool:

Super_Marion
Feb 20th, 2008, 10:33 PM
Poor baba. :( both of you.

I had a similar experience when I was 19 that began on a flight back from Tel Aviv. It was hell. I had my road bike with me and had to cycle 20 miles into central London to catch a train back to Glasgow. I could barely stand up let alone sit on a saddle... talk about pop a cap in yo ass.. lol.

When I got back to Glasgow I was floored for a week. Vomitting, Diahorrea the lot.

This was on top of having an accident in Israel when a support vehicle knocked me over. Road burn but nothing too serious. Still got the streaks on my back and knees 15 years later. lol.

Living out of a suitcase the way tennis pro's on the tour do, must be very demanding. Yes the rewards at the high end can be good. But I have nothing but abiding respect for the athletes who do that stuff week in week out.

Iceland
Mar 29th, 2008, 09:14 AM
An interview of Marion in which she explains her loss :

Tennis-WTA-Miami - Bartoli : «C'était horrible»

http://www.lequipe.fr/Xml/Tennis/Titres/Media/280308_Bart_cr.jpg
Éliminée d'entrée de jeu, comme à Doha, par la Danoise Caroline Wozniacki (http://www.lequipe.fr/Tennis/TennisFicheJoueurF_3270.html) (6-3, 6-1), vendredi à Miami, Marion Bartoli (http://www.lequipe.fr/Tennis/TFJF_500000000002891.html) (Photo L'Equipe) n'a pas caché son énorme déception. Au bord des larmes, désemparée, la numéro un française dit ne pas comprendre cette défaite, elle qui affirme « normalement, les jours sans, je ne connais pas. » La 10e joueuse mondiale va avoir besoin d'un peu de temps pour se reconstruire avant de repartir à Amelia Island. « Remonter la pente ne va pas être facile », avoue-t-elle. Entretien sans fard.

« Marion Bartoli, on ne va pas y aller par quatre chemins : aujourd'hui (vendredi), c'était un jour sans...
Oui... C'était un jour vraiment sans et c'est d'autant plus dommage que j'avais essayé de me préparer le mieux possible pour ce tournoi, que j'aime beaucoup. Vraiment, je suis toujours contente de venir jouer là, mais cette année, ç'aura été très difficile pour moi.

Est-ce Caroline Wozniacki, qui vous avait déjà battue à Doha, qui vous pose particulièrement des problèmes ?
Ça n'a rien à voir avec elle, même si elle a un jeu complet avec pas beaucoup de gros points faibles. J'aurais très bien pu perdre même si j'avais bien joué, mais là, ce qui me désole le plus, c'est d'avoir fait un non-match. Je n'ai pas l'habitude de cela. J'ai l'habitude de me battre jusqu'au bout et, bon, si l'adversaire est plus forte, elle est plus forte, d'accord, mais là, il n'y avait même pas matière à se battre, je ne mettais pas deux balles d'affilée dans le court.

Il y avait longtemps que vous n'aviez pas eu l'impression, comme cela, d'impuissance, de ne pas trouver de solution sur le court ?
Ce n'est même pas de ne pas avoir de solution, de ne pas trouver de solution tactique ou de ne pas parvenir une faille dans le jeu de l'adversaire. Ce n'est même pas ça, non... C'est que j'essaie de faire un geste technique, de frapper la balle comme j'ai l'habitude d'en frapper des milliards, et elle ne passe pas ! Ou la balle prend la bande du filet à chaque fois, ou la balle part deux mètres derrière ! C'était horrible.

A Indian Wells, vous n'aviez pas du tout ressenti ça ?
Non, à Indian Wells il y avait pourtant beaucoup de vent et les conditions étaient très difficiles, mais j'arrivais à contrôler la balle beaucoup mieux que ça. Honnêtement, je n'ai pas d'explication. Je ne sais pas ce qui s'est passé...

Cela vous inquiète ou vous vous dites que c'était juste un jour sans ?
Ma qualité principale, normalement, c'est que je sens très bien la balle. J'ai un très bon centrage et un très bon timing. Donc, des jours où je ne sens pas la balle, je n'en ai normalement jamais. Il m'arrive d'être lente, il m'arrive de ne pas arriver à couvrir mon terrain, de jouer trop faiblement... Ça, ça m'arrive, oui. Mais de ne pas sentir la balle du tout, jamais. Je n'ai pas le souvenir d'un match où les choses se sont passées comme ça pour moi, donc ce n'est pas évident à gérer... Mais je ne ressens même pas de l'inquiétude. On s'inquiète quand on a une explication, que l'on peut remonter le fil pour comprendre. Or là, je n'en ai pas. Si je n'avais rien fait pendant dix jours, que j'étais allée à la plage, et que je ne mette pas une balle, à la limite, je pourrais comprendre, mais cela n'a pas été ça. Tous les jours, j'étais sur le terrain d'entraînement, tous les jours j'ai fait vraiment mon maximum pour me préparer pour ce tournoi-là et aujourd'hui je ne mets pas une balle dans le court. Au point que j'aurais pu perdre contre n'importe qui.

On vous sent désemparée. C'est une attitude qui ne vous ressemble pas...
Si, si, ça me ressemble tout à fait. Dans la mesure où l'on s'implique dans un projet, je trouve que c'est assez normal d'être frustré quand on n'arrive pas à obtenir ce que l'on veut. Les gens qui prennent ce genre de choses avec plus de détachement, c'est peut-être qu'ils prêtent un peu moins d'importance à ce qu'ils font, ce qui n'est pas le cas pour moi. J'essaie toujours d'être très impliquée dans tout ce que je fais, que ce soit le tennis ou le reste, et c'est vrai que quand j'arrive à un niveau aussi faible, cela me touche. Remonter la pente ne va pas être facile.

Quel va être votre programme dans les prochains jours ?
Pas mal d'entraînement (sourire). Ce n'est pas ce que j'aurais préféré faire, mais bon. Et puis j'enchaînerai sur les tournois d'Amelia Island et Charleston. Mais avant, je vais essayer d'analyser pourquoi il y a eu ce non-match-là. J'arrive normalement à toujours trouver les solutions dans les cas les plus désespérés. Je suis persuadée que j'ai tout, que j'ai le mental, que j'ai l'adresse, que j'ai tout ce qu'il faut pour être dans le top 10, mais là, ça n'arrive pas à se mettre ensemble, donc cela donne des écarts entre le classement et le niveau que je joue sur le terrain qui sont incompatibles avec le plaisir de jouer. Franchement, des matches comme ça, on n'y prend pas beaucoup de plaisir. »

Iceland
Mar 29th, 2008, 09:25 AM
To sum it up briefly, Marion is extremely upset about this loss and more particularly as regards the way it happened. She couldn't do anything on court, the title of the article can give you an idea, she said "it was horrible!". It was apparently a total off-day, she couldn't put two strokes in a row in the court ; such a thing has rarely happened to her and this is why she fails to understand the reason of her loss. She has been through matches "when she was too slow, when she was playing without energy" but not when she has no sensations at all. First time of her carrier.

She trained to a lot to prepare this tournament she likes for that result, so she is very disappointed :sad:.
Marion said that this loss has nothing to do with Caroline, she wouldn't have minded if she lost because her opponent was too good, the only thing she wanted was to fight and she couldn't. She is quite pessimistic at the end of the ITW -I like the way she explains her feelings-, she said that such a loss cannot not affect her. She is still sure that at her best she is worth of top ten, but the problem is that she can't put everything together (skills, pleasure of playing, mental strength). She will be training on green clay to prepare Amelia Island & Charleston, but she thinks that "going ahead won't be easy" :sad:.

Poor Marion :awww: :hug:.

Schnyderfreak
Mar 29th, 2008, 12:53 PM
Marion:hug: Alleez and dont give up.

Lighter
Sep 8th, 2008, 08:14 AM
Very interesting article wrote beginning of 2008 with many anecdotes :
http://www.01men.com/editorial/372466/tennis-/

weary
Sep 8th, 2008, 10:37 AM
Marion :hug:

Super_Marion
Sep 8th, 2008, 11:34 AM
Very interesting article wrote beginning of 2008 with many anecdotes :
http://www.01men.com/editorial/372466/tennis-/Great discovery Lighter. :) A bit awkward with Google translater, but I got the jist of it.

I'd like to post something about Walter, but just feel that the things that I know about him, things that we Bartoli fans all know about him, are only a little portion of the fascinating man that he is. There is so much more that we haven’t discovered about him yet.

Lighter
Sep 8th, 2008, 12:27 PM
Great discovery Lighter. :) A bit awkward with Google translater, but I got the jist of it.

I'd like to post something about Walter, but just feel that the things that I know about him, things that we Bartoli fans all know about him, are only a little portion of the fascinating man that he is. There is so much more that we haven’t discovered about him yet.I've known this article for a long time. But I don't know why, I forgot it. Concerning Walter, I remember a former interview with a link I lost somewhere in this thread. A very interesting one in french.