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mboyle
Jul 7th, 2002, 04:02 PM
I could not believe how many unforced errors BOTH players comitted. I mean neither one of them hit close to the lines. Williams vs. Williams had many more exciting points AND involved two celebrities whereas the mens final involved the world no. 1 and a nobody. I thought it was one of the most boring matches of tennis ever. Maybe even the All England Club will give the women equal prize money after this dismal year for the men.

TeeRexx
Jul 7th, 2002, 04:04 PM
Zzzzzz! Zzzzz! Hrummph! Uh, is it time for the women's dubs yet, dude?
:)

angele87
Jul 7th, 2002, 04:04 PM
:bounce: :D :bounce: :D :bounce: :D :bounce: :D :bounce: :D :bounce: :D :bounce: :D :bounce: :D :bounce: :D :bounce: :D :bounce: :D :bounce: :D

I thought it was awesome :D:D

CONGRATS LLEYTON :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Viva
Jul 7th, 2002, 04:08 PM
No. Guess it is just you.

CONGRATULATIONS LLEYTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cybelle Darkholme
Jul 7th, 2002, 04:11 PM
No it wasnt just him that match was crap. I can't believe how many people diss women's tennis and then praise crap like that. where was the competition? Where was the deep strokes inches from the line? Geezus why didnt david just default and give the match away because that would have been more drama than that lack luster final.

less winners and more unforced errors as well. Snooooooore

angele87
Jul 7th, 2002, 04:12 PM
In all fairness to the title of this thread though, I am almost in tears.... tears of joy :p

Viva
Jul 7th, 2002, 04:13 PM
Well I thought the women's final was borsie-ville. I fell asleep actually.

As much as I like Serena.....was not interesting.


Once again.

:D CONGRATS LLEYTON :D

treufreund
Jul 7th, 2002, 04:15 PM
LLEYTON WAS AWESOME! Not a very suspenseful match but still it had lots of drama since that was Nalbandian first-ever grass-court tourney. Wow I just love LLEYTON. He has accomplished so much at a young age and plays so controlled and smart. He really ripped some of those forehands like never before but it's his foot speed, precision and never say die attitude that I just can't believe. :bounce:

Viva
Jul 7th, 2002, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by angele87
In all fairness to the title of this thread though, I am almost in tears.... tears of joy :p

So am I!!!!!!!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

It is 2:13am. Match is finished now I'm going to bed. I gotta a looooooooong day of studying tomorrow and I'm not looking forward to it. At least this has put me in a better mood.

YAY!!!!!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

juggler
Jul 7th, 2002, 04:17 PM
lleyton played the match that way in order to win. there was no need to do anything spectacular when your opponent is falling apart.

i dont think think williams fans can talk about great grand slam finals given what the sisters have thrown up.

Playa
Jul 7th, 2002, 04:19 PM
Shhh!!!!!!they are only bored when it's the williams

Viva
Jul 7th, 2002, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by Playa
Shhh!!!!!!they are only bored when it's the williams

Yes. That's it. :rolleyes:

lurker
Jul 7th, 2002, 04:24 PM
No match with Lleyton is EVER boring!!! He did what he needed to do without making things difficult for himself. Nalbandian did make it easy most of the time, but there were plenty of times Nalbandian could have stepped in and Lleyton just didn't let him...you could still feel the tension and the fight out there!

I LOVE watching him play!!

Messenger
Jul 7th, 2002, 04:26 PM
I was practically swimming in my tears.

Callie19
Jul 7th, 2002, 04:39 PM
You sound like hypocrites to me.:rolleyes:

Sevenseas
Jul 7th, 2002, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by TeeRexx
Zzzzzz! Zzzzz! Hrummph! Uh, is it time for the women's dubs yet, dude?
:)


LOL !!!

Very boring, indeed, but I'm happy that Lleyton got it !

Congratulations Lleyton !!! :bounce:

tiger
Jul 7th, 2002, 04:49 PM
I only saw the last set!

but i think this nobody made toooooooo many unforced errors!

nobody can beat Hewitt if he tries to do it with these long ralleys!


but

Congratulation Hewitt

Hewitt first Australian since 15 years

mboyle
Jul 7th, 2002, 05:26 PM
Hey, I am happy for Lleyton (though I hate him with a firey passion for being an illogical bigot) but that match was worse than the WOMEN'S DOUBLES! I mean in a few years, I would not be surprised to see the MEN asking for equal prize money. Cause they don't deserve it! I mean who cares about that guy from Argentina? He was totally rolled over! The Williams sister match was more competitive. Oh well I will just have to accept that men's tennis is boring. COME ON ANDY RODDICK AND SAVE MEN'S TENNIS FROM SPAIN AND SOUTH AMERICA!

Aloysius
Jul 7th, 2002, 05:32 PM
It wasn't boring from an Aussie perspective, let me tell you. Lleyton was a man on a mission!

And please don't try and start another argument by attempting to counter an old one. Rise above it.

ceetje
Jul 7th, 2002, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by angele87
In all fairness to the title of this thread though, I am almost in tears.... tears of joy :p
i was in tears of joy!!! :bounce: :bounce:

ClijstersHewitt
Jul 7th, 2002, 06:06 PM
I didn't think it was boring at all.

But then again, as Joy said, Lleyton is my favorite player, and loved to see him win. :hearts: :kiss:

Another all-Williams final...now that was boring. ;)

angele87
Jul 7th, 2002, 06:08 PM
Good post joy :wavey: I totally agree... except I totally adore Lleyton :hearts: :p ;)

Williams Rulez
Jul 8th, 2002, 03:25 AM
I did not enjoy the finals... even though I was happy for Hewitt... :D

Couver
Jul 8th, 2002, 03:39 AM
I thought the finals were ok. I was totally cheering for David though.

lrg bllt
Jul 8th, 2002, 06:01 AM
the streaker broke my boredom.. ;)

aura of daniela
Jul 8th, 2002, 06:15 AM
Hey guys,
I have to admit, that the match was quite hard to watch.
I have some australian pride inside, so seeing Lleyton win was awesome, but seeing David do well would have been just as nice.
I think the one thing that made the final a little worse was the rain delay..........I fell asleep at that stage, and wouldn't have had the match continued on as normal. I dont know if that added to other peoples way of seeing the final, but thats why I fell asleep.

Also with the Williams' final, it just feels like a weird atmosphere when they play each, it's like there motivation is artificial when there out there. And thats nothing against the girls, I mean, the say thing would happen if Hewitt played a brother in the final.
It's just hard to get really pumped up when your playing someone so close to you.

I guess people would rather have seen Hewitt play Agassi, or maybe even to surprise finalists make it, but hey, thats sport.

But I think, had this result been in David's favour today, this thread may not have come about.

That my opinion.

At least the good old Australian open is finally the tournament which delivered the best finals to date :p.
Usually the Aus Open is the most disappointing one.........hehehe.

Simon V

Crazy Canuck
Jul 8th, 2002, 06:33 AM
Before I make some comments, I will admit that the final was a little boring. It was a total mismatch, in both experience at that level, and game on grass.

Now some comments ;)

"Williams vs. Williams had many more exciting points AND involved two celebrities whereas the mens final involved the world no. 1 and a nobody. I thought it was one of the most boring matches of tennis ever. Maybe even the All England Club will give the women equal prize money after this dismal year for the men."

What you mean, is that the womens final involved two Americans, and the mens final did not. It involved the World Number 1, who is very exciting to watch IMO, and an upstart, NOT a nobody. To the general public he is a nobody, but to an ATP fan he isn't.
That is rather like saying that Indian Wells final was a battle between Martina Hingis and a nobody.

This tournament was not disimal for the men. The final was boring yes, but the stories that were about in the mens draw were great.

You had the walking wounded, back from the disabled list;) with Mark and Krajicek, you had the home grown hope in Tim Henman, you had the upstarts in Malisse and David.

You had David becoming the first man in the open era to reach the final on his first attempt (did I mention it was his first grass court tournament ever at this level?), all the while shutting a few mouths (including your own mboyl?) about how all S. Americans are "clay courters" who can't contend on other surfaces.

Then finally you had the World number one, the 'young punk' Hewitt, who was to deny the home grown hope, and demolish the young upstart in the finals. The best part? Hewitt is still only 21. David is only 20. Malisse is 20. Mark is 25. Henman will play at least a few more times.

Crazy Canuck
Jul 8th, 2002, 06:35 AM
YOu want to know the MAIN difference between the men and women?

Not the way they play, not the pay difference - look at how the media threats them.

The women are considered sex objects, and personalities. They are not respected as athletes.

The men are seen as athletes first, so everything else becomes blurred.

If the media paid as much attention the mens "assets" and "personalities" as they did the women, those of you who say that the ATP has more personality or good stories would realize how very wrong those comments were.

Crazy Canuck
Jul 8th, 2002, 06:44 AM
RACISM.

Could someone explain to me the difference in someone saying "Come on Jenn, save tennis from the Black people", and someone saying "Come one Andy, save tennis from the Spaniards and South Americans"?

It is racism either way.

Why am I the only one who seems to see this?

irma
Jul 8th, 2002, 08:09 AM
Could someone explain to me the difference in someone saying "Come on Jenn, save tennis from the Black people", and someone saying "Come one Andy, save tennis from the Spaniards and South Americans"?

I like to know too :rolleyes:

Crazy Canuck
Jul 8th, 2002, 08:13 AM
I will admit that sometimes I jump all over some of mboyls comments due to past arguements...

But there is no difference between the two quotes ...

Both at racist.

Maybe he is just kidding or whatever, but its not funny, and it isn't cool at all.

It is not alright to make such comments about skin colour, so it isn't alright to say them about people from certain countries either, IMO.

I mean, what the hell have people from Spain and S American ever done to mboyl anyhow?

anton
Jul 8th, 2002, 09:11 AM
I fell asleep during the Leyton match. It was all boring, mostly it was, but I was up late the night before also.

Weevee
Jul 8th, 2002, 10:38 AM
Rebecca I think you are intelligent so I hope I can talk to you. There is a huge and obvious difference between racism and nationalism. Those people who are hoping to save tennis from black people are racist and EuroAmerican. Those people who want to save tennis from South Americans are nationalistic and AngloAmerican.
Nationalism is celebarated everywhere so if the South Americans dominate the game the AngloAmericans who are the biggest financial supporters of tennis will lose interest. There is one certainty if the South Americans dominate the game they will become Americans in a few years like many lthers in tennis and in other sports. Then their achievements will be celebrated. But black you can't wash off. That is why many black people are black and proud and aggressive and defensive. They have to be so much better to be considered as good and even when they are so much better it is always something else!
(By the way I did not say that all -or only- EuroAmericans are racist!)

Greenout
Jul 8th, 2002, 11:45 AM
It was one of the worst men's finals in the past 15 years
at WIMBLEDON. I don't care if women's tennis is considered
lopsided , at least there's interesting personalities. Was it
only me or what? Wasn't Hewitt kind of a dull person to
watch? I knew things were going from bad to worst when
Hewitt vs Henman was what the some people said everyone(?)
was waiting for. ROTF.

Women's tennis is better than men's tennis hands down.
Look how everyone knows players by their first names..
"Jennifer, Monica, Venus, Serena, Anna....."

Do people get excitied talking about "Leyton? Thomas?"

The men's final was a dullfest. I didn't care if the
Williams/Williams final looked like an exhibition match;
at least they have charisma; which is more than I could
say for David Nalbandian.

When the "streaker" was the star ; you know there's
a problem.

Bright Red
Jul 8th, 2002, 12:16 PM
I watched a little bit of it, and yes it was boring. Not because of UE's or anything, but more because I really didn't care who won. I stopped watching it early in the first set, and a few hours later went to the website to see who won.

angele87
Jul 8th, 2002, 12:18 PM
I think this:

Women's tennis is better than men's tennis hands down.
Look how everyone knows players by their first names..
"Jennifer, Monica, Venus, Serena, Anna....."

Can pretty much be explained by this:

The women are considered sex objects, and personalities. They are not respected as athletes.

The men are seen as athletes first, so everything else becomes blurred.

joneg2
Jul 8th, 2002, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by Rebecca
RACISM.

Could someone explain to me the difference in someone saying "Come on Jenn, save tennis from the Black people", and someone saying "Come one Andy, save tennis from the Spaniards and South Americans"?

It is racism either way.

Why am I the only one who seems to see this?

Very interesting... I sought of agree... and then weevee posted his answer where he/she made some poignant retorts. Now I'm thinking... maybe there is a difference? :wavey:

P.S. All of Wimbledon this year, on both sides, wasn't as dramatic as any of us would have liked; if the truth be told. Doesn't matter who was in the finals(or any match for that matter)... just wasn't as many "classic" or epic struggles as the tennis enthusiast would have liked! IMHO.

Viva
Jul 8th, 2002, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by Rebecca
YOu want to know the MAIN difference between the men and women?

Not the way they play, not the pay difference - look at how the media threats them.

The women are considered sex objects, and personalities. They are not respected as athletes.

The men are seen as athletes first, so everything else becomes blurred.

If the media paid as much attention the mens "assets" and "personalities" as they did the women, those of you who say that the ATP has more personality or good stories would realize how very wrong those comments were.

Completely agree! :)

eshell
Jul 8th, 2002, 06:35 PM
The men's final was very boring. I'm happy for Lleyton and all Hewitt fans.

BUT, there was neither drama nor suspense. If one can watch this match with two baseliners who play similar games and not complain about quality, then the same standard could be applied to the Williams Sisters.

(oops! That's a topic for another thread...sorry. :) )

xan
Jul 8th, 2002, 07:51 PM
The mens final WAS boring. I don't think anyone could say it was one of the great finals. Dull baseline rallies reminiscent of Sanchez Vicario v Coetzer AND a non-competitive match.

Nalbandian was clearly overawed by the occasion, and only played well for the short period between the two rainbreaks. There was never the slightest doubt as to the outcome - and that takes all tensio out of a match. Little wonder the mens Final was beaten soundly in the US ratings by the Womens DOUBLES Final.

Dirty Sanchez
Jul 8th, 2002, 08:27 PM
It wasn't Hewitt's fault he was given Nalbadian to play in the final.

David just wasn't up to the task and he froze on centre court.

I reckon, if it was Malisse it would have been a longer and more competitive match and in fact if the semi between Xavier & David hadn't been stopped due to bad light Malisse would have stormed the fifth set and made the final.

Anyway, CONGRATS LLEYTON!

Crazy Canuck
Jul 9th, 2002, 12:02 AM
We don't know for sure that Malisse would have given Hewitt a better match. David beat Malisse fair and square, so that is how it goes.Personally I found both his and Hewitt's comments afterwards to be funny and charming :)


Weevee - thanks for the reply. We don't totally agree, but I respect your opinion on the matter.

"There is a huge and obvious difference between racism and nationalism. Those people who are hoping to save tennis from black people are racist and EuroAmerican. Those people who want to save tennis from South Americans are nationalistic and AngloAmerican."

I understand the difference between nationalism and racism. But race, does not just have to refer to colour. When he insults people from Spain or Argentina, he is refering to specific races of people - from those nations. He targetting specific places in the world - esp. Spain, with his comments. WHy not "Andy, save tennis from the rest of the world!" That would be nationalistic.
What he did, is clearly targetting a dislike for certain areas of the world.