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Marcell
Jul 7th, 2007, 06:05 PM
Venus Williams wins 4th Wimbledon title

WIMBLEDON, England (AP) -Venus Williams giggled as she clutched the championship trophy against her chest, threw back her head and whooped at the sky.

Winning Wimbledon never gets old.

Williams won tennis' most prestigious tournament for the fourth time Saturday, beating surprising finalist Marion Bartoli 6-4, 6-1.

It was Williams' sixth Grand Slam title, and her first since winning Wimbledon in 2005. She was also the champion at the All England Club in 2000 and 2001.

At No. 31, Williams became the lowest-ranked women's winner in Wimbledon history. Plagued in recent years by injuries that sent her ranking sliding, she rediscovered her championship form this week on the surface that always seems to inspire her best efforts.

``It has been a long road back,'' Williams said during the trophy ceremony. ``I brought it together here against some of the best players in the world, including Marion.''

She lost 22 games in her final four matches, beating 2004 Wimbledon champion Maria Sharapova on Wednesday, 2004 U.S. Open champion Svetlana Kuznetsova on Thursday and French Open runner-up Ana Ivanovic on Friday.

``She loves the grass,'' said Williams' boyfriend, pro golfer Hank Kuehne. ``And she loves the environment here.''

Her father and coach, Richard, said that when his daughter was about 9, she declared she wanted to win Wimbledon more than anyone else.

``I think she can win three more,'' he said, ``and I would be disappointed if she did not.''

Williams is the fourth woman in the Open era to win four or more Wimbledon singles titles, joining Martina Navratilova (9), Steffi Graf (7) and Billie Jean King (4). King also won Wimbledon singles titles in 1966-67, before the Open era began in 1968.

On Sunday, Roger Federer will seek his fifth successive Wimbledon title against nemesis Rafael Nadal in a rematch of last year's final.

Williams' resurgence was reminiscent of the run to this year's Australian Open title by her sister Serena, who entered that tournament ranked 81st. Venus expressed gratitude to her sister - among others - during the trophy ceremony.

``Serena, she inspires me,'' Venus said. ``The Australian Open champion - I wanted to be like her.''

Serena, eliminated by top-ranked Justine Henin in the Wimbledon quarterfinals, watched from the stands as Venus turned in a workmanlike performance punctuated by occasional brilliance. She chased down shots all over the court, and her varied shotmaking ranged from delicate slices to a fearsome backhand overhead slam.

While the tournament was plagued by rain for much of the past two weeks, the final took place right on schedule - and in warm sunshine, the best weather of the fortnight.

Williams served out the first game at love, then broke serve when Bartoli double-faulted. They played 19 minutes before Bartoli won a game to make it 3-1, prompting cheers of encouragement from a Centre Court crowd eager for a competitive match.

And it was - for a while. The Frenchwoman, playing in her first Grand Slam final, settled down to reach 3-all. But she double-faulted for the fourth time for set point, and Williams converted by charging forward to put away a backhand volley.

She kept up the pressure to start the second set, winning the first three games. Both players then requested medical timeouts - Bartoli to have her left foot retaped, and Williams to have her upper left thigh taped.

Following the 11-minute interruption, the 19th-ranked Bartoli held serve to close to 3-1. She had rallied from a set down in her past three matches, including a shocking win Friday over Henin.

But this time, there would be no comeback.

Williams hit a backhand winner to break serve for 5-1, and closed out the victory with a 124-mph service winner that handcuffed a weary Bartoli.

The crowd roared as Williams raised her arms, grinned and, after shaking hands with her opponent, let out with an exultant ``Woooooo!''

With Wimbledon paying equal prize money to men and women for the first time this year, Williams won $1.407 million. Bartoli received $703,500. Williams has been among the most vocal proponents of equal prize money, and she broached the subject during the trophy ceremony, prompted a roar of delight from the crowd.

``Thank you, All England Club - we're playing under equal terms,'' she said.

Hashim.
Jul 7th, 2007, 06:08 PM
hope she is healthy ...

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 7th, 2007, 06:10 PM
I think she can win three titles at Wimbledon but they won't be Wimbledon titles.

She probably has enough in her to win two Wimbledon titles but I think she really wants to win the Olympics in 2012 at London which will be at Wimbledon and she'll do it.

Two Wimbledons and the 2012 Olympics which she and Sharapova really seem to want.

Highlandman
Jul 7th, 2007, 06:11 PM
When she is healthy and no serious injuries it is possible, definitely.

supergrunt
Jul 7th, 2007, 06:12 PM
That's it? :(

mckyle.
Jul 7th, 2007, 06:13 PM
I want her to win at least six more, so I can see this face again:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a122/tennisfan1981/PICT0006.jpg

DemWilliamsGulls
Jul 7th, 2007, 06:17 PM
I want her to win at least six more, so I can see this face again:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a122/tennisfan1981/PICT0006.jpg

Yeah that damn cow didnt want Venus to have the same status as her , King and Graff...guess what baby..she is about to pass your stat..because your ancient ass can FORGET about seeing another Wimbledon single title. You gotta love Richard Williams and his predictions....he is offically my play uncle...lol

Slutiana
Jul 7th, 2007, 06:17 PM
I want her to win at least six more, so I can see this face again:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a122/tennisfan1981/PICT0006.jpg

can i use that as my avatar pleeease?

mckyle.
Jul 7th, 2007, 06:19 PM
can i use that as my avatar pleeease?


It's LoveFifteen's picture so you'll have to ask him :lol:

Thanx4nothin
Jul 7th, 2007, 06:30 PM
Venus could definitely win three more, but serena and her will trade then amongst themselves if they are healthy in coming years.

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 7th, 2007, 06:36 PM
Yeah that damn cow didnt want Venus to have the same status as her , King and Graff...guess what baby..she is about to pass your stat..because your ancient ass can FORGET about seeing another Wimbledon single title. You gotta love Richard Williams and his predictions....he is offically my play uncle...lol

Umm. Billie Jean King and Martina Navratilova have 18 Wimbledon titles each.
Venus has 6.
It took Martina 25 years to even catch up to Billie Jean King and yet somehow you think Venus can do it and she hasn't even accomplished one boxed set yet. :lol: :haha:

Keep dreaming. :wavey:

DemWilliamsGulls
Jul 7th, 2007, 06:40 PM
Umm. Billie Jean King and Martina Navratilova have 18 Wimbledon titles each.
Venus has 7.
It took Martina 25 years to even catch up to Billie Jean King and yet somehow you think Venus can do it and she hasn't even accomplished one boxed set yet. :lol: :haha:

Keep dreaming. :wavey:

Well they mentioned something to Venus being in the same league was graff, navitorlova and king..i thought that was it...either way the cookie crumble I still cant stand that cow lol...and I know she didnt want Venus to win lol

Tennisaddict
Jul 7th, 2007, 06:52 PM
Three more? Why not? If she stays healthy she can definitely do it. I still have not seen any other active player who is as good as Venus on grass.

LudwigDvorak
Jul 7th, 2007, 06:53 PM
Venus could honestly win every Wimbledon she enters in the next few years, just as long as you don't put her on Court 2. :tape: More than three wouldn't surprise me.

Shvedbarilescu
Jul 7th, 2007, 06:57 PM
Venus could definitely win three more, but serena and her will trade then amongst themselves if they are healthy in coming years.

Not so sure about this statement. Personally I would say Venus is always going to be substantially more likely to win Wimbledon than Serena.

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 7th, 2007, 07:15 PM
Three more? Why not? If she stays healthy she can definitely do it. I still have not seen any other active player who is as good as Venus on grass.

There's this girl named Serena.
Maybe you've heard of her. :p

I heard this girl has more variety, a tad bit more power on her shots, and a better second serve than Venus.

Vlad Tepes
Jul 7th, 2007, 07:17 PM
Now that seems too much! Venus is not so young and other girls will catch up to her. I think she could win 1 or 2 more, but not 3. Oh, and about the 2012 Olympics, Venus will be 32 at that time, so there will certanly be other favourites.

ico4498
Jul 7th, 2007, 07:24 PM
three more seems fairly attainable for my Queen.

course, all things seem la vie en rose right now ... :)

Shvedbarilescu
Jul 7th, 2007, 07:25 PM
There's this girl named Serena.
Maybe you've heard of her. :p

I heard this girl has more variety, a tad bit more power on her shots, and a better second serve than Venus.

I heard this Serena girl is much more injury prone, isn't nearly as good at the net, and is much slower. Sorry, but Venus is a better grasscourt player than Serena.

bunch_01
Jul 7th, 2007, 07:26 PM
Apples to apples always works best... If I'm reading this correctly Martina has 9 Wimbledon singles titles. The way the women's game is today I think the time is past for Venus to pick up five or six more plus the biological clock is a factor...but she might be able to move higher up on the list of all time winners. Billie Jean has 6 titles, Steffi has 7. You have to go back before WWII before you find any other players with more than 3.

Shvedbarilescu
Jul 7th, 2007, 07:26 PM
Now that seems too much! Venus is not so young and other girls will catch up to her. I think she could win 1 or 2 more, but not 3. Oh, and about the 2012 Olympics, Venus will be 32 at that time, so there will certanly be other favourites.

I actually agree with this too. Not too many Grand Slams are won by players over 28 years old these days.

Tennisaddict
Jul 7th, 2007, 07:31 PM
There's this girl named Serena.
Maybe you've heard of her. :p

I heard this girl has more variety, a tad bit more power on her shots, and a better second serve than Venus.

Serena? Who is that?

No, but seriously what you say about Serena is true but on grass Venus IMO is the superior player even to Serena altough she´s a close second. Serena´s best surface IMO is fast and slow hardcourts.

Wannabeknowitall
Jul 7th, 2007, 07:33 PM
I heard this Serena girl is much more injury prone, isn't nearly as good at the net, and is much slower. Sorry, but Venus is a better grasscourt player than Serena.

Really?
Serena has beaten Venus twice in Wimbledon finals.
All of a sudden she can't do it again?

It's one thing to underestimate Venus on grass, it's another thing to think Serena can't/won't catch up to Venus at Wimbledon.

Tennisstar86
Jul 7th, 2007, 07:41 PM
Really?
Serena has beaten Venus twice in Wimbledon finals.
All of a sudden she can't do it again?

It's one thing to underestimate Venus on grass, it's another thing to think Serena can't/won't catch up to Venus at Wimbledon.

Lets look at those 2 wimbledon Finals.
The first one Venus palyed poorly, she just couldnt handle playing her sister for a title who as Richard said is "meaner" than her sister which is why shes better. (this i agree with) and it was evident in the 2003 wimbledon final where an Injured Venus serving like 64 mph first serves pushed the match to 3 sets, almost had the chance to serve it out in the second while Serena was on the other side of the net playing her hardest calling Vee a "b****" under her breath(yes the camera zoom in on her say it) she barely got it to 3 sets to win.

So yes, i saw Venus is the best player on grass, and Serena will have a tough time catching her titles on the grass of Wimbledon.

frontier
Jul 7th, 2007, 10:04 PM
I think Venus is at home at Wimbledon and Serena in Australia she really likes Melbourne.I think this win will motivate Serena to work harder and try to win the USA OPEN.

frontier
Jul 7th, 2007, 10:13 PM
Now that seems too much! Venus is not so young and other girls will catch up to her. I think she could win 1 or 2 more, but not 3. Oh, and about the 2012 Olympics, Venus will be 32 at that time, so there will certanly be other favourites.venus is going to be around till she is 33yrs thats what she said.look at sugiyama she is 32yrs but she is still competetive what can stop venus who is more atheletic than sugiyama.Venus moves better than Nicole Ana Hantukova, pova who are all younger than venus. Her movement at wimbledon was superior to all the above mentioned and as long as she is heathy watch out.

rjd1111
Jul 7th, 2007, 10:34 PM
Now that seems too much! Venus is not so young and other girls will catch up to her. I think she could win 1 or 2 more, but not 3. Oh, and about the 2012 Olympics, Venus will be 32 at that time, so there will certanly be other favourites.


How about the 2008 Olympics

rjd1111
Jul 7th, 2007, 10:37 PM
I actually agree with this too. Not too many Grand Slams are won by players over 28 years old these days.


We are talking about Williams Sisters, Not other players.

Foxy
Jul 8th, 2007, 04:16 AM
Venus can win other titles as well if she trains, gets fit and healthy and makes up her mind.

People forget that Venus is only 15 months older than Serena.

There's no reason she can't win many more titles. If healthy opponents at their best is not winning, then there is no reason she won't win quite a bit more.

God knows she has the best court coverage, speed that hasn't gone away, a big serve and a great net game and reach.

She just has to dedicate herself in every area and stay focused.

Like MJF said, there is no reason for Venus not to be winning other majors because she has the game to do so.

AcesHigh
Jul 8th, 2007, 04:58 AM
Really?
Serena has beaten Venus twice in Wimbledon finals.
All of a sudden she can't do it again?

It's one thing to underestimate Venus on grass, it's another thing to think Serena can't/won't catch up to Venus at Wimbledon.

Serena is not as good as Venus on grass... especially now. Serena has lost a step and doesn't seem to flatten out her strokes. Her new approach seems to put more spin and play safer. Also, her first serve isn't as big and her net game is.. ehhh.

Venus's movement, first serve, and flatter, more powerful strokes would be too much for Serena.

Btw, VEnus was severely injured in that 2003 final.

DOUBLEFIST
Jul 8th, 2007, 06:17 AM
Vee could win five more.

friendsita
Jul 8th, 2007, 06:28 AM
COULD BE.

Shvedbarilescu
Jul 8th, 2007, 06:41 AM
Serena is not as good as Venus on grass... especially now. Serena has lost a step and doesn't seem to flatten out her strokes. Her new approach seems to put more spin and play safer. Also, her first serve isn't as big and her net game is.. ehhh.

Venus's movement, first serve, and flatter, more powerful strokes would be too much for Serena.

Btw, VEnus was severely injured in that 2003 final.

100% agree. Very well put post.

Larrybidd
Jul 8th, 2007, 06:50 AM
If Richard says 3 more, who are any of us to say no? When has Richard been wrong about his girls? People thought he was crazy when he said his girls would rule the tennis world. People thought he was crazy when he said Serena would be better than Venus. People thought he was crazy when he predicted Venus, not the AO '07 champion Serena would win this year! If I was in Vegas at the sports books, I'd want to consult Richard Williams first. The guy scary for being right so much.

ico4498
Jul 8th, 2007, 07:35 AM
If Richard says 3 more, who are any of us to say no? When has Richard been wrong about his girls? People thought he was crazy when he said his girls would rule the tennis world. People thought he was crazy when he said Serena would be better than Venus. People thought he was crazy when he predicted Venus, not the AO '07 champion Serena would win this year! If I was in Vegas at the sports books, I'd want to consult Richard Williams first. The guy scary for being right so much.

no shit.

Sam L
Jul 8th, 2007, 07:52 AM
If Richard says 3 more, who are any of us to say no? When has Richard been wrong about his girls? People thought he was crazy when he said his girls would rule the tennis world. People thought he was crazy when he said Serena would be better than Venus. People thought he was crazy when he predicted Venus, not the AO '07 champion Serena would win this year! If I was in Vegas at the sports books, I'd want to consult Richard Williams first. The guy scary for being right so much.

I'm sure there are also times when he got wrong that we didn't hear about.

Aside from that...

I predicted Venus to be in this final but not Serena so obviously I too thought Venus, not the AO'07 champion Serena that had more a chance of winning.

I too recognized way back in 1998 Sydney tournament when Serena bt Lindsay in three sets that Serena will be one day a more complete player than Venus.

So really it's not that special.

BTW, he also said that Serena shouldn't have played that QF match against Justine and that she would seriously injure herself if she did. Obviously she didn't and survived just fine.

PLP
Jul 8th, 2007, 07:57 AM
Venus should win at least 2 more (in singles), and it's definitely possible for her to win more than that, depending on how long she plays. Not only was her game something to behold in this final, but her focus was great, consistent throughout the entire match. I consider her the favorite to win in NY now...VEE!!! :kiss:

PLP
Jul 8th, 2007, 08:06 AM
``Thank you, All England Club - we're playing under equal terms,'' she said.

I love Vee! She deserves the money and I am glad she was such a vocal proponent in making the change.
:worship:

Thanks for the article BTW.

die_wahrheit
Jul 8th, 2007, 08:09 AM
I think she can win three titles at Wimbledon but they won't be Wimbledon titles.

She probably has enough in her to win two Wimbledon titles but I think she really wants to win the Olympics in 2012 at London which will be at Wimbledon and she'll do it.

Two Wimbledons and the 2012 Olympics which she and Sharapova really seem to want.

2012... Venus will be 32. Imagine how old she 'll be looking.
Kind of Navratilova

die_wahrheit
Jul 8th, 2007, 08:12 AM
I want her to win at least six more, so I can see this face again:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a122/tennisfan1981/PICT0006.jpg

Is that MacGyver?

ico4498
Jul 8th, 2007, 08:17 AM
I too recognized way back in 1998 Sydney tournament when Serena bt Lindsay in three sets that Serena will be one day a more complete player than Venus.

dang Sammy, never knew you had the gift! they're some psychic twins out there claiming they got 9-11 before yah. show 'em up sammy, you're the real deal. provide documents to back up your incredible tales! :bounce:

Bijoux0021
Jul 8th, 2007, 01:33 PM
One thing that has not been said in this thread is that throughout the Williams sisiters' tennis careers, they have never played lots of tennis. Unlike other players who'd worn themselves out in just a few years by playing too much, Venus and Serena have always taken lots of time off, especially if they are injured. They focused on other things in their lives and not worried about tennis. So when they are in their thirties, they'll still have plenty of gas left in their tanks.

Larrybidd
Jul 8th, 2007, 04:08 PM
BTW, he also said that Serena shouldn't have played that QF match against Justine and that she would seriously injure herself if she did. Obviously she didn't and survived just fine.

Richard never said that she would injure herself, he said she could injure herself. I've never known Richard to be so negative as to PREDICT injury.

When Richard he was running the girls career, he was prone to withdraw the girls for so much as a hangnail. Now that the girls are of age and make those calls, they are biased in favor of playing thru injuries if possible. That is perfectly logical as Richard is risk averse when it comes to his daughters careers and doesn't want the guilt associated with pushing them to play hurt, should the unthinkable happen.