View Full Version : Will MARION BARTOLI reach another slam final in her career?

Jul 7th, 2007, 12:01 AM
Ok, so I'm getting sick of the Marion threads now too, but this is a question I am really interested in asking.

How do people think Marion's career will be affected by this amazing result? Will she build on it and be considered a real contender for future slams? Will she reach a few quarter finals here and there but never repeat this form? Will she fall apart under the pressure and expectation?

This run was just so out of the blue - completely different to Ivanovic's at Roland Garros what with her tier 1 clay court title previously, her age, progression, her handy draw etc. - especially considering Marion had only ever reached the 4th round of a slam once before (FO '07).

How do you think the result tomorrow will affect her career? If she loses, how will the impact be different to if she wins?

This run is a little reminiscint of Stevenson's, Fernandez's, Lucic's etc.. (even though they only reached the semis of their best slams) and they didn't have any real slam success afterwards. However, Marion is a top 20 player, who has been very promising for a number of weeks now, which makes this tournament so different.

Anyway, the rambling is basically asking, 'will she reach another slam final?' and 'how will the result tomorrow affect the rest of her career?'.

Any thoughts?

I'm really not sure. I think it will be a little easier to decide after tomorrow. I think my gut feeling is that she will make a few quarter finals and maybe the odd semi, but not a final again. But I am NOT going to right her off - look what she proved here! I hope Marion gets herself into great physical shape though because if she can make the final of Wimbledon in good shape, who knows what she could do in peak condition?!

Jul 7th, 2007, 12:44 AM
It's possible. Some players improve. If someone like Safarova had a breakthru like this, I could understand it.
This girl doesn't have the movement or firepower of most of the slam contenders.

Jul 7th, 2007, 12:56 AM
I think everybody forgets something important. Bartoli is French. And like most French players, she is maturing later.
Remember when she was young, everybody noticed her and saw some potential. But it took time for her to be consistent and reach Top 20.
Now Im not sure why French people mature later in their career (Bartoli is still pretty young though) but we have numerous examples. Tauziat, Halard, Testud, Mauresmo, and even when you look at the young promising men like Gasquet or Monfils, it took them a while to confirm their junior results, unlike a Nadal or Djokovic.
I'm not saying Bartoli will be a Mauresmo, or a Gasquet, but who knows, she might do more in her still young career.

Jul 7th, 2007, 12:59 AM
I'll go with no, although i feel i may live to regret this.

Jul 7th, 2007, 01:10 AM
i think she can do it again

Jul 7th, 2007, 01:11 AM
I doubt it. If she does, congrats to her; if not, no thing on me.

Jul 7th, 2007, 01:15 AM
yeah she will. she's impressive and has a fighter's spirit.

Jul 7th, 2007, 01:16 AM
maybe she can,you know,nothing is impossible!!

Jul 7th, 2007, 01:24 AM
I think she will. What was most impressive about her was that she didn't choke, no sign of nerves!

Jul 7th, 2007, 01:27 AM
I'm so sick of people saying she doesn't have weapons. Her ground strokes are amazing and have been the best of all 128 players in the Wimbledon draw. She paints lines and doesn't make errors, you try to do that :rolleyes:

And who knows what this means for her career. We'll have to wait to find out.

Jul 7th, 2007, 01:27 AM
She hasen't even played this final yet! Give her a chance please.

Jul 7th, 2007, 09:45 AM
I say no again, but she's proven me wrong and I actually wouldn't mind it at all! :lol:

Jul 7th, 2007, 09:47 AM
I'm so sick of people saying she doesn't have weapons. Her ground strokes are amazing and have been the best of all 128 players in the Wimbledon draw. She paints lines and doesn't make errors, you try to do that :rolleyes:

And who knows what this means for her career. We'll have to wait to find out.


Who said she didn't have weapons? Of course she does - she's in the final of Wimbledon!!

She hasen't even played this final yet! Give her a chance please.

Again - :confused:

I've said "If she wins OR loses"

I'm asking what would happen in both circumstances. I haven't rooted Marion out of this final by any means. In fact, I think she has a very good chance to win and I would love the see that happen. Maybe some people will say it won't do women's tennis any favours, but who cares? She seems like a lovely girl with a big game, having the tournament of her life :)

Sam L
Jul 7th, 2007, 09:48 AM
I'll need to see more of her to make my decision. But I wouldn't be surprised if she reaches another Wimbledon final. Her strokes and playing style suits this surface, surprising given that she's two-handed on both sides.

Jul 7th, 2007, 09:49 AM
if she stays fit then yes

Jul 7th, 2007, 09:50 AM
never say never :lol:

Jul 7th, 2007, 10:01 AM
This slam isn't yet over and you're asking for another one?

Jul 7th, 2007, 10:01 AM
of course not

Alizé Molik
Jul 7th, 2007, 10:03 AM
i'm going to say maybe it's a bit early to ask these questions- do I think this was a fluke? No. She didn't pick up the racket yesterday, she's been playing for a really long time and she'll continue to play and improve and like everyone has seen - she can play free of nerves and she believes in herself so I think she can!

Jul 7th, 2007, 10:09 AM
Who knows. Maybe it is turning point of her career happening right now. This is unpredictable.

Jul 7th, 2007, 10:15 AM
I say NO

Jul 7th, 2007, 10:22 AM
She is only 22 and is clearly still improving. The fact that she isn't the fittest player out there actually makes it harder to assess because on one hand it is possible her lack of fitness could prevent her from maintaining the level she is currently playing but on the other hand clearly there is still alot of room for improvement. She currently on a 22-5 streak and has been getting better throughout that streak. But prior to that she was 9-12 for the year with some truly horrible losses.

Marion deserves her place in the final. She has most definately been one of the two best players in the tournament and her results over the last few weeks have kind of been building up to this climax. Still prior to this she really hadn't done anything close to this. I do agree with what Goldenlox said earlier in this thread very simply "some players improve". It is rare however to see that improvement occur as rapidly as it has here. Even the improvement Jankovic made last year leading to her semifinal at the US Open happened over a longer period than what we have seen here.

I don't really know what will happen from here to Bartoli. I wouldn't rule out the possibility that she could go on to win several slams and I wouldn't rule out the possibility that she will never reach another quarterfinal either. There are certainly precidents for both outcomes.

But so often in situations like this it comes down to the people the player is surrounded by. Players like Dokic, Stevenson, Lucic were unfortunately all surrounded by nutters. That makes a big differance. They showed a number of shots of Bartoli's father yesterday. He looked like a good man. He reactions were kind of funny actually, he looked like he was a stunned and shocked as the rest of us but realised he needed to keep a calm exterior and did it well. So with that in mind, yeah on balance i think she can have a great career. It might be a bit up and down but she has got the talent and this won't end up the only time that talent manifests itself. After much thought I will put myself on the line and say win or lose today she will achieve further success in slams including at least one Slam singles trophy after this tournament.

Jul 7th, 2007, 10:53 AM

DAVAJ MKirilenko
Jul 7th, 2007, 10:58 AM
I say no. I guess players are really warned now and with good tactics it will be hard for Bartoli to continue winning.
If she really gets fitter then maybe yes.

Jul 7th, 2007, 11:48 AM
No way.

Jul 7th, 2007, 11:49 AM
hmm I don't think so. but why not? ;)

Jul 7th, 2007, 01:02 PM