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evadafan
Jul 6th, 2002, 08:22 PM
2. Venus Williams (0-6)
3. Jennifer Capriati (3-8)
4. Monica Seles (did not play)
5. Kim Clijsters (did not play)
6. Jelena Dokic (did not play)
7. Justine Henin (2-3)
8. Martina Hingis (1-4)
9. Lindsay Davenport (did not play)
10. Amelie Mauresmo (0-4)



Others of note:
Kournikova (1-2)
Schnyder (2-1)

Becool
Jul 6th, 2002, 08:28 PM
Getting by this statics, Jennifer is the only one threating Serena :o

arn
Jul 6th, 2002, 08:32 PM
And Justine is also doing well :) Only 1 set behind :)

Nimi
Jul 6th, 2002, 10:47 PM
of course Jenny!

i must say that i think that if Jenny & Venus would have met this year Jenny would have won

Jordan.
Jul 6th, 2002, 10:58 PM
Vera Zvonareva also took a set off of her :rolleyes: :D :bounce:

DEETHELICK
Jul 6th, 2002, 11:02 PM
At first I thought Venus and Jen would be Serena's main challengers.

Jen seems to be Serena's main competitor. She has taken 3 sets of Serena and had very close sets determined by only 1 break in their matches. Venus has yet to take a set off her.

They key to Jen's rivalry with Serena is that she is not afraid of Serena. I think most girls get intimidated after a while. Jen doesn't seem to and responds quite well to Serena's challenge. It is more mental than anything, although both their FH are great!

I was really looking forward to a Jen-Serena SF at Wimby!

Now we'll have to wait until God knows when! :(

villa
Jul 6th, 2002, 11:32 PM
The only reason serena has dropped sets to jen is becuase she has always played some what sloppey in their matches, look at the unforced error count from serena, whereas against venus especially today and miami serena was in the zone and played perfect tennis.

Lol at jen beating venus, jen had her best year last year and couldn't beat her, what makes u think that she could do it this player considerably worse.

Monica_Rules
Jul 6th, 2002, 11:35 PM
Patty Schnyder is doing well against her:D

Kart
Jul 6th, 2002, 11:43 PM
JenCap seems to have the game most suited to handling Serena - she's fast on court and her groundstrokes hardly ever break down. She had set points in Miami this year as well so they've had pretty close matches, even in Serena's straight set wins.

evadafan
Jul 7th, 2002, 03:37 AM
I don't know why some think Jen is doing so bad this year. At least she's won a grand slam.

Cybelle Darkholme
Jul 7th, 2002, 03:48 AM
Its not that shes doing badly, its that she's not living up to her potential. The fact that she has won a grandslam and no other tournament is the reason people are giving her flack. The point is since she won a grandslam she should be winning lesser tournaments and shes not doing that.

Jen had close matches with serena but she is not the top ten player who beat serena this year, justine is (though it was a close thirdset tie break).

Berlin_Calling
Jul 7th, 2002, 03:54 AM
Justine is a good opponent for Serena. Even though she lost to Serena at the Italian, it was in a close two sets. Berlin was very close also, but that day, coming out in Justine's favor.
I think if Serena had played Monica, Kim, or Jelena this year, she would have dumped them in two easy sets. Can't say that about Lindsay, if she was playing though.
BTW, Good Job Anna!!! Stretching Serena, the best deserved #1 in a while, to three close sets!:D

evadafan
Jul 7th, 2002, 03:59 AM
I think Serena would have had problems with Monica. They had very close matches late last year, which they split. Serena can't depend on Monica to choke matches away like Justine. And who knows about Kim, she did beat Venus in Hamburg. Dokic probably would've been an easy victory.

Experimentee
Jul 7th, 2002, 07:48 AM
Serena doesnt depend on Justine to choke matches away. I dont know where you get that from. To win against Justine you have to play well. Shes choked about twice in her career and now everyone who beats her wins because she choked. :rolleyes:

Informative
Jul 7th, 2002, 10:45 AM
Why would anyone say that Jennifer Capriati has done "well" against Serena? Serena has beaten Jennifer five straight times and Jennifer has never beaten Venus in her entire career (she is 0-4 lifetime and 0-3 over the past year). Capriati is 4-10 lifetime against Serena and Venus in her career, and is 0-4 against Serena this year. As for Jennifer beating Venus: It simply hasn't happened and until it does happen (and I mean more than once or twice, LOL) all this ill-informed talk about Capriati being truly competitive with either Serena or Venus is not true based on the actual objective record. ONE tournament win (the AO, 2002) in the past 12 months by Capriati does not in any way equal the 8 tournament wins and two GS wins of Venus and 7 tournament wins, 3 GS wins of Serena over this same 12 month period! Gimme a break! Let's be honest for once...

eshell
Jul 7th, 2002, 03:18 PM
Well said, informative! I agree with your observation. :)

mboyle
Jul 7th, 2002, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by Informative
Why would anyone say that Jennifer Capriati has done "well" against Serena? Serena has beaten Jennifer five straight times and Jennifer has never beaten Venus in her entire career (she is 0-4 lifetime and 0-3 over the past year). Capriati is 4-10 lifetime against Serena and Venus in her career, and is 0-4 against Serena this year. As for Jennifer beating Venus: It simply hasn't happened and until it does happen (and I mean more than once or twice, LOL) all this ill-informed talk about Capriati being truly competitive with either Serena or Venus is not true based on the actual objective record. ONE tournament win (the AO, 2002) in the past 12 months by Capriati does not in any way equal the 8 tournament wins and two GS wins of Venus and 7 tournament wins, 3 GS wins of Serena over this same 12 month period! Gimme a break! Let's be honest for once...

Gee I did not know that there are 6 grand slams a year (2 for Venus, 3 for Serena, 1 for Jenn):rolleyes: And about Jenn not living up to her potential, she simply only plays the big tournaments, and why don't we say Kim Clijsters or Martina Hingis, or anyone else but the Williams sisters are not living up to their potential? They also only win one title of any importance a year (and some play 31 tournaments a year like Jelena Dokic and STILL can only win tier 3s and 4s). Jennifer has said it before: that she only cares about grand slams. If Jennifer played more tier twos and threes, she would also have a barrel load of titles.

mboyle
Jul 7th, 2002, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by eshell
Well said, informative! I agree with your observation. :)

Informative was not informative. He was either lying or not paying attention to the facts. Jenn and Venus have the same number of grand slams, and Venus has played more tournaments this Year. (stupid for Jenn though, she really should play more tournaments). The fact is that Jenn does more against Serena than Venus does. So Jenn has lost to Serena 4 times this year, Venus has also lost 3! Serena is just unbeatable, and Venus can't even beat her right now.