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sorelbow
Jul 6th, 2002, 03:23 PM
mid way thru the match, i realised i was beginning to get upset with serena for getting the better of venus on most of the rallies. i was also starting to resent her serving better, hitting more winners. suddenly i realised i wanted venus to win, not serena - and that the results do matter.

i suppose that is what the williams domination mean - you have to take sides and pick one favourite.

midora
Jul 6th, 2002, 03:25 PM
I WILL NEVER TAKE SIDES. BUT I WILL SAY THAT EVERY VICTORY ONE HAS OVER THE OTHER IS A LITTLE BITTERSWEET. I CAN'T BE OUTRAGEOUSLY JUBILIANT LIKE THE WAY I AM WHEN THEY CRUSH NON-WILLAMS OPPONENTS.

tennischick
Jul 6th, 2002, 03:26 PM
hey Sorelbow (of rak-yak fame?). terrific post. i don't have this problem as i have always preferred Serena. but i agree that those fans who have always lumped them together now have an interesting new challenge. but for me it's always been Serena all the way. she just needed to shuck off Venus' protective/controlling arm and find her space. and now she's gone and done it! :) ;) ;)

RYNJ
Jul 6th, 2002, 03:26 PM
actually!!! I am getting bad vibes against Serena!!!

BUT, I will still root for her. BUT NO MORE when she faces Venus. Coz I can't stand it when Venus looses to ANYONE.

Becool
Jul 6th, 2002, 03:27 PM
I started to feel that way when Serena lost to Venus on US.
Well, Williams Fans the majority, ALWAYS had a preference for Venus. It was quite obvious to note on Williams forum for example. Serena had the preference of minority fans of both sister, as me fore example.

I will continue to support Venus, except when she faces Serena. It what has been going through all my tennis life. I think I won't change my way of support. I will keep supporting them both, but of course, when they face each other, then I would have to choose Serena, cause she is my favourite. As Venus if for most of Williams fans. I find it quite normal.

Bright Red
Jul 6th, 2002, 03:29 PM
After the THREE losses this year to baby Sis. I feel very much in the Venus camp. However, I still love Serena, I just root for Venus when the two meet.

irma
Jul 6th, 2002, 03:29 PM
I always rooted for Serena in their matches and I will continue to do so:D

RYNJ
Jul 6th, 2002, 03:31 PM
But I mean. If Venus is to loose to anyone, I would rather have it be Serena, not anyone else. Because when Venus looses to Serena it takes me about an hour to get over it. Where as when Venus lost to Monica in the Aus it took me A LONG TIME!!

Infiniti2001
Jul 6th, 2002, 03:34 PM
I've ALWAYS in my heart been ONLY a Venus fan--- I started rooting for her sister , because of the shit thrown at them on this board and everywhere else ... I see her as the ENEMY/DEVIL now. NO more support from Infiniti2001:P

P.S. for some reason I don't take Venus's loses to any other player this hard...:fiery:

CanIGetAWhat
Jul 6th, 2002, 03:35 PM
i've always like serena, but now, big sis has to teach little sis a lesson in respect! :p Venus, next time you meet Serena, humble her :p :mad:

Bright Red
Jul 6th, 2002, 03:38 PM
I feel the same way, Infiniti. It really hurt me to see Venus lose to Serena today. Baby Sis earned no points with me.

I will always root for Serena against everyone but Venus, though.

RYNJ
Jul 6th, 2002, 03:40 PM
Well if Venus wins the Acura Classic, it'll make up the Wimbledon loss. Coz SHE BETTER WIN IM NOT WATCHING THE FINALS THERE!!!!!!

Bероника
Jul 6th, 2002, 03:41 PM
I've always supported Venus more than young sister and this is how i'll keep.Hope Venus wins the next time!!!

kay
Jul 6th, 2002, 03:43 PM
Well, I must say that I too am very sad that Venus lost. I felt so sorry for her, but hey Serena played better. Venus will bounce back. I cant wait for the US Open, I hope there is another Williams v. Williams final, but with a different outcome. My girl hasnt won a GS yet and Serena is the only person to defeat V. in a Grand Slam final,(besides Hingis in 97?,I think).

Gumbycat
Jul 6th, 2002, 03:48 PM
I LOVE Both Venus and Serena the Same :) and always will :)

But I will be pulling for Venus to win The US Open because now Venus needs this Grand Slam :). I was pulling for Serena to Win the French Open and I was favoring Serena slightly this match at Wimbledon.

Althea
Jul 6th, 2002, 03:49 PM
things did change doing the match for me today. Initially like yourself wanted Serena to win then was really wishing Venus would give her a few spanking doing the match.

I don't see that I will have to make a definite decision on whom I want. It will vary - sometimes will be for Venus and other times for Serena.

sorelbow
Jul 6th, 2002, 03:56 PM
i don't mean to start a civil war amongst williams' fans. but mid-way through the match, when the emotional conflicts boiled over, that i realise that there is only one favorite for me - venus.

TSequoia01
Jul 6th, 2002, 03:56 PM
I love both Sisters and emotionally I stay out of it. May the best Sister that day win. I feel a little sad for Venus but am happy for Serena. Balances out for me. :cool:

venusfan
Jul 6th, 2002, 03:58 PM
I loved Venus since I saw her at the '97 Open and only became a fan of Serena because she's her sis.. well, now I cant stand Serena. How dare she humiliate Venus like this. And I think Venus needs to get her damm act togather.. stop always trying to defend Serena. She is almost 21 years, old, get over it Venus. Kick her ass whenever u play... It is almost guaranteed that Serena will end the year #1.

I will root for Serena when she's playing, but not when she's playing Venus. I am so #)((@#((0 mad right now. I cant even stand seeing Serena pictures right now. DAMMIT

eshell
Jul 6th, 2002, 03:58 PM
I cheer for them both equally except when they play each other. Then I cheer for Venus.

If I had to choose, my loyalties lie with Venus.

I'm the oldest and would hate to lose to my younger brother. :)

"Topaz"
Jul 6th, 2002, 04:03 PM
Before the match, I was slightly rooting for Venus. Maybe it was deeper than I thought. Midway through, I was strongly supporting Vee. Now, I find myself somehow sad. Yet, I love Serena's game and fire on the court.

Yep, yep, we'll have to take side. Mine is Venus and I am sad.
Bye!

harloo
Jul 6th, 2002, 05:31 PM
Calling Serena a devil is mean spirited and downright nasty Infiniti and Bright Red agreeing is a suprise to me. And I can't believe this is coming from some VENUS FANS, but I really know the truth now. You guys are not sister fans, you are Venus fans. It's not Serena's fault that she has been the best player this year, what do you expect her to do. Oh I know, roll over in the past and give the match to Venus.

I truly felt sad after the match for Vee, I saw the look on her face. I really wanted her to win this time, but Serena was just better today. Vee will be motivated to do better, and I hope she does but if Serena keeps winning then so be it.

What's more dissapointing is coming on this site and reading some of these scandalous comments about Serena from Venus fans like a tennis match between the two is the end of the world if Serena wins.

Ughhhhh!!!!! I can't even believe this. :mad: :mad:

Cam'ron Giles
Jul 6th, 2002, 05:56 PM
I agree with harloo. I cant believe a split in the Williams fan base :sad:

nysaga
Jul 6th, 2002, 06:05 PM
The reason there are many Venus fans in here is because she the more successful sister the last 2 years but things are changing quicklyl. There will be many more Serena fans starting today.

Jovon
Jul 6th, 2002, 06:15 PM
I hope there is no divison here cause I love both of the sisters and sometimes I want Venus to win and sometimes I want Serena to win. I think I favor Venus more though, but I think most Williams fans favor one slightly more. I would never root against them with any other opponent.

I hope Williams fans will continue to support both ladies. Venus has been the best player out there for a while so let Serena have her time. There is room at the top for both and that is exactly where they are now. So lets enjoy this!!!!!


STAND STRONG AND TOGETHER WTA FAMILY!!!!!! :wavey:

Volcana
Jul 6th, 2002, 06:19 PM
For me, it's the same as it ever was. I root for both of them except when they play each other. Then I hope they both play well but Venus wins. Today was not My Lady's day.

Infiniti2001
Jul 6th, 2002, 06:19 PM
Get over yourself Harloo. I'm just stating how I feel...

P.S. I don't only support Venus when she is winning--- I was a fan when she was getting her ass kicked left , right, and center earlier in her career and I will continue to be .

moon
Jul 6th, 2002, 06:43 PM
ditto Infiniti.
Harloo, I think you're overreacting a bit...

btw--I'm not as bummed as I was after FO. Venus looked a little bit like when Serena won USO 99, and we all know what happened after that... Venus will be on a tear this summer. :)

Infiniti2001
Jul 6th, 2002, 06:47 PM
btw--I'm not as bummed as I was after FO. Venus looked a little bit like when Serena won USO 99, and we all know what happened after that... Venus will be on a tear this summer


OMG Moon, I said the same thing to a friend this morning... I knew I have seen this look on her face before.

Sean
Jul 6th, 2002, 06:52 PM
I always knew most Williams fans favoured Venus.

Trust me u will start wanting Serena to lose to other players too., because you want Venus to be no 1.

You just cant support 2 players eqaully it dosent work.

venusfan
Jul 6th, 2002, 06:56 PM
SERENA HAVE A 1000 LEAD ON EVERYONE. AND SHE DIDN'T EVEN PLAY AUSTRALIA

nikita771
Jul 6th, 2002, 06:57 PM
Although I lean more towards Venus, I would never root against Serena. Although I like Venus, I like the Williams sisters even more. If Venus isn't number 1, then I want Serena to hold that honor. I think that it's possible to root for both of them, but choose one when they go head to head. There's nothing wrong with that, as long as we don't go overboard with the bashing. I was sad for Venus today, but even more so - I was proud of Serena. She played great and she deserved the title.

Shane54
Jul 6th, 2002, 07:08 PM
I am totally shocked by the comments about Serena. Serena has grown on me. Yes, I am a Jenn fan first but I also like Serena. All this time I really thought most W fans liked Rena too. It seems as though everyone's true self is coming out. Rena good luck. Not only do you have to hear it from non W fans but Venus fans as well. Serena you are talented and great! Keep up the good work and Watch out for big sis and Jenn(had to slip that one in there)! at the US Open.

I believe for sure now that these victories by Rena, have really separated the two in fans minds and will no longer be seen as "one". Watch out for some fierce competetive matches in the future. The cat has been let out the bag.....

Jovon
Jul 6th, 2002, 07:15 PM
Although I lean more towards Venus, I would never root against Serena. Although I like Venus, I like the Williams sisters even more. If Venus isn't number 1, then I want Serena to hold that honor. I think that it's possible to root for both of them, but choose one when they go head to head. There's nothing wrong with that, as long as we don't go overboard with the bashing. I was sad for Venus today, but even more so - I was proud of Serena. She played great and she deserved the title.

Great post nikita771 and I agree 100%!:)




WILLIAMS TENNIS ASSOCIATION FAN FOREVER! :wavey:

Bright Red
Jul 6th, 2002, 07:43 PM
harloo

Please don't think that I in any dislike Serena. She is without a doubt one of my two favorites. See my post in the Poll thread I set up

BrianII
Jul 6th, 2002, 07:47 PM
Ditto nikita771 and Jovon....... anyway my feelings have always been that venus reacts very strongly to adversity and gets a little complacent when things come to easy ...so i don't see her losing to serena as a negative ..she used to lose to lindsay like this and then she turned it around, when serena won the first slam venus was the most determined i have ever seen her at Wim '00....they've always pushed each other ....and thats the true sibling rivalry between them, that one always wants to able to do what the other one has done ....overall its just " bad new getting worse" for the rest of the tour players.

Becool
Jul 6th, 2002, 08:14 PM
SERENA HAVE A 1000 LEAD ON EVERYONE. AND SHE DIDN'T EVEN PLAY AUSTRALIA

But she won Scottsdale, Miami, Rome, did finals of Berlin, won Roland Garros and Wimbledon......

And you still have a doubt??? :rolleyes:

Please accept it.. Serena is the new number one...

joao
Jul 6th, 2002, 08:47 PM
I've always liked better Venus! I'm sad today bc she lost but I'd rather see her lose against Serena than anybody else! As long as Venus and Serena stay on top, things will be just fine!

Having said that, I'd rather see Venus on top though! And Serena can defeat Venus as many times she wants but pleaaaaaaaaase not in GS!!!!!!!!!!!!! Serena can have all the TierI and Venus the GS!!!!!!!!!!!!!That would be the ideal scenario!!!!!!!!!

C'mon Venus!!!!! 2002 USO is the last GS of the year! And you know you want that one more than any other tournament now!!!!!!!

Ntosake
Jul 6th, 2002, 09:04 PM
Like others have stated, I am a fan of the Williams SISTERS, and I disagree that you cannot support 2 players equally. I've been doing it all the time, and it works for me.

They are 2 distinct players, yet I love them both, and when they face each other, I simply say that whoever is the best that day will win.

Never had to chose one over the other, and won't do it now. They are both the best of the best.

(Now can we all have a group hug in here or something?)

:) :angel: :kiss:

persond
Jul 6th, 2002, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by Ntosake
Like others have stated, I am a fan of the Williams SISTERS, and I disagree that you cannot support 2 players equally. I've been doing it all the time, and it works for me.

They are 2 distinct players, yet I love them both, and when they face each other, I simply say that whoever is the best that day will win.

Never had to chose one over the other, and won't do it now. They are both the best of the best.

(Now can we all have a group hug in here or something?)

:) :angel: :kiss:

:wavey: Hi Ntosake:wavey:

You said it best, those are my sentiments, exactly. And, I send you the BIGGEST HUG ever!!!:hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:

Halardfan
Jul 6th, 2002, 10:06 PM
I think that Wlliams fans as a whole have leant towards Venus in the past, whereas neutrals like me have tended to prefer Serena.

Ive long thought Serena was the physically better player, but I wondered she if had her sisters mental strength. Now she does...maybe no one can stop her in the big tournies.

I certainly wanted Serena to win, and expected her to. :)

Trouble is, if Venus starts being widely seen as the underdog of the two, my in-built preference for the underdog might kick in, and I might start prefering Venus.

But I find it easier to warm to Serena, she is a more emotional prescence of court, more expressive...she wears her heart on her sleeve throughout, which I find appealing. :)

VS Fan
Jul 6th, 2002, 10:30 PM
I am just glad that they FINALLY played a matcg against each other, that will be hard for their detractors to claim was "orchistrated". This WAS a hard hitting, competetive match, which I think will be the norm from them from now on.