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gopher
Jun 24th, 2007, 05:24 PM
Meeting in the final would have given a big advantage to Serena, as sheimproves in the last two stages of a tournament and has a psychological advantage in a Wimbledon final.

Thus, having to confront Serena in the quarters gives Justine an advantage the more she beat Serena in the quarters at Roland Garros easily.

Your opinion ?

Slutiana
Jun 24th, 2007, 05:28 PM
disagreed justine had surface advantage at RG and now serena has surface advantage here...

anyway...theres more than one match in a tournie and they havent even got there yet so STOP JINXING THEM!!

goldenlox
Jun 24th, 2007, 07:43 PM
I think Justine would be better off if Serena was on the other side, and had to beat both Amelei and Maria to reach the final.
Ideally, you want all of your major competitors on the other side of the draw.

Conor
Jun 24th, 2007, 07:48 PM
Agreed... Serena gets better as the tournament goes on. I think Justine would be more likely to beat her before the final rather than in it.

Apoleb
Jun 24th, 2007, 07:50 PM
It's a very slight advantage, but nothing to speak of. Serena will be on a mission, and making her beat herself will be one hell of a job, 1R or final.

gentle
Jun 24th, 2007, 07:55 PM
It doesn't matter, Serena will be up for revenge and with surface advantage!

Matt01
Jun 24th, 2007, 07:57 PM
First of all both players will have to beat their opponents in the first 4 rounds...


I agree that:

QF would be of Justine's advantage.
Grass surface would be of Serena's advantage.

mdterp01
Jun 24th, 2007, 07:59 PM
Surface matters and as much bravado as Serena showed at the French, she knew she was climbing an uphill battle. Serena is very capable of stepping it up in the quarters so I don't think Justine playing Serena in the quarters will give her any advantage. Again, if they both make it there. Lets not just automatically put them both there. Injury, loss....who knows what can happen. Lets just see how the tournament unfolds people. Upsets do happen.

RenaSlam.
Jun 24th, 2007, 07:59 PM
Doesn't matter.

If Serena has the "Eye of the Tiger" look in her eyes, watch the @#$@ out.

Thanx4nothin
Jun 24th, 2007, 08:30 PM
Serena's desire and intensity for revenge coupled with the surface will see Henin off IMHO.

No Name Face
Jun 24th, 2007, 08:36 PM
it shouldn't matter in this instance.

supergrunt
Jun 24th, 2007, 09:02 PM
I say yes because Serena doesn't want to have to play her best in a quaterfinal. She wants to build with every match. I think that if Serena wins this one, she will lose the first set. She'll probably go out there doing that "I'm just going to place the ball and not hit it hard" thing, and then fight back in the second and third sets.

DOUBLEFIST
Jun 24th, 2007, 09:14 PM
Unfortunately, I have to say yes. Though in this particular draw, Serena could very well be forced to get better SOONER rather than later, so she could very well be quite ready for Justine.

The thing that's always bothered me lately (meaning the past few years) about Serena is this notion of playing herself into a tournament. If you go back and look when Serena was utterly dominant, she was very Graf-like in that she was consistently strong throughout a tournament, handling people she was supposed to beat with ruthless efficiency.

I wish Serena would find THAT form, so I don't have to sweat early rounds.

thrust
Jun 24th, 2007, 09:58 PM
I do think it is an advantage for Justine to play Serena earlier than in the finals,as Serena tends to become more confident the futher she goes in a tournament.

sammy01
Jun 24th, 2007, 10:04 PM
in my mind this feels like i think it was 2004 when serena lost to capriati in the french qtrs then thrashed her in the wimbledon qtrs i think the same could happen here with this match! henins ans serena rivalry seems not very comptetive to me as justine hasnt won on a surface other than clay!

trufanjay
Jun 24th, 2007, 10:11 PM
It's not an advantage to Justine. The fact that it is on grass and at WIMBLEDON is an automatic advantage to Serena no matter what round it is.

Callystarr
Jun 24th, 2007, 10:15 PM
based on these comments looks like if Serena loses to Justine, the whole world will crumble.

trufanjay
Jun 24th, 2007, 10:15 PM
in my mind this feels like i think it was 2004 when serena lost to capriati in the french qtrs then thrashed her in the wimbledon qtrs i think the same could happen here with this match! henins ans serena rivalry seems not very comptetive to me as justine hasnt won on a surface other than clay!
And 2003 where Serena lost to Justine at RG and then crushed Justine at Wimbledon. Serena hates to lose to the same player twice in a row within close periods of time.

supergrunt
Jun 24th, 2007, 10:17 PM
Everyone is saying advantage Serena, but Justine hits it just as hard, if I'm being honest. :shrug:

Stamp Paid
Jun 24th, 2007, 10:18 PM
Ju fans psyching themselves up?

Mark Spruce
Jun 24th, 2007, 10:20 PM
Do not count the chickens before they hatch

saki
Jun 24th, 2007, 10:26 PM
I think it is better for Justine to play Serena in a QF than in a final.

That does not mean that I think that Justine will definitely win because it's a QF.

Plus, both women have four matches to play first.

franklinbouvier
Jun 24th, 2007, 10:37 PM
Other factors to take into account include Justine's recent run at Eastbourne.
On the one hand she'll have grass matches under her belt but on the other she could be tired going into Wimbledon.
If Serena comes out with all guns blazing then Justine might not be able to handle it.
Or Serena might have a mental wobble against Justine like at RG.
Anything could happen, really.

T-GIRL87
Jun 25th, 2007, 01:30 AM
I do feel Justine could have the huge advantage here. If she were to beat Serena in the quarters, a huge hurdle will be lifted off her shoulders. She goes through the draw knowing her toughest opponent is already out. While Serena is very mentally tough, she still can get nervous during big matches. Everybody thinks that Serena plays her best when she's fighting, but to me she plays better when she's calm and relaxed. Depending on how Serena handles the occassion, having to meet the best player in the world on a big stage, will play a huge role in the outcome of this match.

Veronique
Jun 25th, 2007, 03:09 AM
Serena's not losing. She's ready, and this is grass. She has revenge in her mind.

Junex
Jun 25th, 2007, 03:32 AM
Ju fans psyching themselves up?


:tape:

bandabou
Jun 25th, 2007, 05:17 AM
Let them win 4 matches each first, then we can discuss this..

Sam L
Jun 25th, 2007, 05:45 AM
Serena usually gets better and better through a draw so it's definitely more advantageous for Justine to play her sooner rather than later.

PLP
Jun 25th, 2007, 05:51 AM
No, I don't think it matters...if it was a 1st or 2nd rd then yes it would be to Justine's advatage considering how confident she should be coming in but by the quarters Serena should be quite 'played in' to the tournament.

Should they both get there (hopefully), the better player will win on the day.

rikvanlooy
Jun 25th, 2007, 02:21 PM
Serena usually gets better and better through a draw so it's definitely more advantageous for Justine to play her sooner rather than later.

Nobody of the current players has a better record than Justine playing in Qf's of slams. She almost never loses at the QF stage.

Just have a look at the difference between Serena and Justine. You will be amazed by the statistic.

It doesn't look good for Serena. Justine is always top at the QF stage, but she loses somewhat of her energy at the end of slams because she gets somewhat tired.

gopher
Jun 27th, 2007, 11:04 AM
1st round for Justine was impressive...

rikvanlooy
Jun 27th, 2007, 11:09 AM
Did somebody already have a look at the statistics on how Serena and Justine faired in QF slams ?