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Talula
Jun 24th, 2007, 01:29 PM
I've been away a while so sorry if this has already been covered. But I when I watched the BBC coverage of the Eastbourne final I'm sure the male commentator said that because of her foot injury Anastasia will never play again andis retiring. Virginia Wade then said how awful it was.

I was watchng it in a hotel room and I may have heard wrong. I knew Anastasia's foot was in bad shape etc., but had not heard she was actually calling it quits for good. Has anyone else heard anything - maybe I've missed a lot the last couple of months!

AnnaK_4ever
Jun 24th, 2007, 01:34 PM
http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=303728

Talula
Jun 24th, 2007, 03:03 PM
http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=303728

Thank you! As I said, I've been out the loop!

pwayne
Jun 24th, 2007, 03:31 PM
http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=303728


Unfortunately for her, she will be known as a on slam wonder(just like Clijsters) by winning Roland Garros in 2004. Then, they will say she won because of 3 reasons:
(1) Williams Sisters were injured
(2) Belgians were injuried and sick
(3) Dementieva was very nervous

Filippo-Nastya
Jun 24th, 2007, 03:49 PM
Williams Sisters were injured

Injured? They both reached the QF so...:rolleyes:

Lovesunair
Jun 24th, 2007, 09:07 PM
Unfortunately for her, she will be known as a on slam wonder(just like Clijsters) by winning Roland Garros in 2004. Then, they will say she won because of 3 reasons:
(1) Williams Sisters were injured
(2) Belgians were injuried and sick
(3) Dementieva was very nervous

Actually, Nastya beat Venus in QF and after that - Capriatti(who beat Serena previously) in great way.
About Belgians and Lena - it wasn't Nastya's problem at all. She showed great smart tennis - this'll be remember. Her win was absolutely deserved.

jazar
Jun 24th, 2007, 09:12 PM
we finally dont have to put up with her anymore

Craigy
Jun 24th, 2007, 09:12 PM
Unfortunately for her, she will be known as a on slam wonder(just like Clijsters) by winning Roland Garros in 2004. Then, they will say she won because of 3 reasons:
(1) Williams Sisters were injured
(2) Belgians were injuried and sick
(3) Dementieva was very nervous

She won it fair and square.

ys
Jun 24th, 2007, 09:22 PM
In few months Nastya will probably be as fat as Kafelnikov. I hope I won't have to se that.

schorsch
Jun 24th, 2007, 09:24 PM
leave anastasia alone will ya :p she's such a cool gal.

pcrtennis
Jun 24th, 2007, 09:47 PM
She may be a one slam wonder but anyone who tries to discredit Myskina's French Open win with a bunch of excuses is completely wrong. She would have beat just about everyone with the way she was playing in that tournament. She beat Venus, a hot Capriati and Dementieva among others. She earned that win. Hope she gets back on track.

Shvedbarilescu
Jun 24th, 2007, 09:49 PM
we finally dont have to put up with her anymore

Shame we still have to put up with your idiotic comments.

HarkleroadFan
Jun 24th, 2007, 09:52 PM
She was a bit of an old misery guts for me.

Reuchlin
Jun 24th, 2007, 09:53 PM
Shame we still have to put up with your idiotic comments.

:lol: :worship:

jazar
Jun 24th, 2007, 09:54 PM
Shame we still have to put up with your idiotic comments.

yeah, they are here for the long run

Talula
Jun 24th, 2007, 09:55 PM
In few months Nastya will probably be as fat as Kafelnikov. I hope I won't have to se that.

So, do you weigh Yevgeny personally? You will never have to se that. Or SEE tat.

HarkleroadFan
Jun 24th, 2007, 09:55 PM
I've been away a while so sorry if this has already been covered. But I when I watched the BBC coverage of the Eastbourne final I'm sure the male commentator said that because of her foot injury Anastasia will never play again andis retiring. Virginia Wade then said how awful it was.

I was watchng it in a hotel room and I may have heard wrong. I knew Anastasia's foot was in bad shape etc., but had not heard she was actually calling it quits for good. Has anyone else heard anything - maybe I've missed a lot the last couple of months!

Where?

Dave.
Jun 24th, 2007, 10:04 PM
I hope Anastasia continues. I didn't realise she even played the French Open:o I thought she haden't played for ages. I really want her to come back to the tour though, she shouldn't be retiring!

and she fully deserved the French Open title in 2004. She beat Kuznetsova saving match points 8-6 in the final set. Then Venus, Capriati and Dementieva all in straight sets. That is a very tough route through. I admire her mostly for her performance in the final. Her and Elena were both trying to become Russia's first Slam champion, and she didn't get nervous, Elena did. I was expecting Elena to settle first because she had been in bigger moments in her career before. Anastasia took the title really well.

PLP
Jun 24th, 2007, 11:34 PM
I am not so sure. I think she needs a real break form the game, she shouldn't have played RG and I think it mentally threw her a bit. I still think she will be back next year, fully healed, that's my hope anyway. She has a unique game and personality, the tour is lacking a bit without her. :angel:

fammmmedspin
Jun 25th, 2007, 12:38 AM
Shame because the game has moved her way. The people who troubled her with the exception of Justine are all retired, semi retired or playing worse than they did in 2004. The youngsters are having difficulty playing two good tournaments in a row. With a decent shoulder and foot top five and top Russian would be on if she could match her 2004 level.

She may need motivation though and the Olympics and Russian Fed cup team would need her ranking there to be able to compete. Not sure if she would find watching Justine walk off unopposed with all the biggest trophies or beating a new generation of Russians worth it alone . The First thing though is she needs a foot.

ctan88
Jun 25th, 2007, 02:00 AM
Ohh Myskina .. what can we say? We'll miss your on court antics, personality and savy!

Corswandt
Jun 25th, 2007, 02:17 AM
Shame because the game has moved her way. The people who troubled her with the exception of Justine are all retired, semi retired or playing worse than they did in 2004. The youngsters are having difficulty playing two good tournaments in a row. With a decent shoulder and foot top five and top Russian would be on if she could match her 2004 level.

That is one big "if", considering how she played during say early 2006.

Plus her 2004 successes had as much to do with the lack of elite opposition as with her own level of play (Myskina's H2H against the Slam contenders of her generation is as awful as Schnyder's).

miffedmax
Jun 25th, 2007, 02:21 AM
Nasty was a hoot and a damn good player. I'll miss her.

strictennis
Jun 25th, 2007, 02:29 AM
2007: The waste of many retiring talents.

AnnaK_4ever
Jun 25th, 2007, 12:39 PM
That is one big "if", considering how she played during say early 2006.

Plus her 2004 successes had as much to do with the lack of elite opposition as with her own level of play (Myskina's H2H against the Slam contenders of her generation is as awful as Schnyder's).

Not quite true.
Schnyder vs { Serena, Venus, Capriati, Davenport, Henin, Clijsters, Sharapova, Mauresmo, Pierce, Kuznetsova, Dementieva } = 24-74 (24.5%)
Myskina vs { Serena, Venus, Capriati, Davenport, Henin, Clijsters, Sharapova, Mauresmo, Pierce, Kuznetsova, Dementieva } = 31-51 (37.8%)

Though I agree 2004 was exceptional season for Myskina in terms of H2H against the very best players. She went 0-2 vs Henin, 0-1 vs Clijsters, Mauresmo, and Serena, 2-2 vs Davenport, 1-0 vs Venus, 2-1 vs Capriati (total 5-8 and she should have beaten Henin at Olympics and Serena at YEC) but totally dominated fellow Russian Slam finalists: 3-0 vs Dementieva, 2-0 vs Kuznetsova, 3-1 vs Sharapova.

miffedmax
Jun 25th, 2007, 01:25 PM
Which goes to prove again--never, ever argue stats with AnnaK_Forever :lol:

rhz
Jun 25th, 2007, 01:43 PM
Her loss to Justine in Athens 2004 killed her motivation! She wanted to win the Gold so bad!

auntie janie
Jun 25th, 2007, 01:59 PM
Unfortunately for her, she will be known as a on slam wonder(just like Clijsters) by winning Roland Garros in 2004. Then, they will say she won because of 3 reasons:
(1) Williams Sisters were injured
(2) Belgians were injuried and sick
(3) Dementieva was very nervous

Doesn't matter what anyone says. Being called a "one-slam wonder" really means only won thing: YOU'VE WON A SLAM. :worship: And even her denigrators have to concede that a singles Slam title is the only prize that really counts in tennis. Nastya's name has been etched into the sport's history forever, and that won't change no matter what she decides to do from here on out. We love ya, kid. Enjoy your life. :hearts: :kiss: :wavey:

Corswandt
Jun 25th, 2007, 03:09 PM
Not quite true.
Schnyder vs { Serena, Venus, Capriati, Davenport, Henin, Clijsters, Sharapova, Mauresmo, Pierce, Kuznetsova, Dementieva } = 24-74 (24.5%)
Myskina vs { Serena, Venus, Capriati, Davenport, Henin, Clijsters, Sharapova, Mauresmo, Pierce, Kuznetsova, Dementieva } = 31-51 (37.8%)

A towering 13% above Schnyder. Wow.

TennisGuy21
Jun 25th, 2007, 03:12 PM
Good bye Myskina! You were the first player I ever saw live!

AnnaK_4ever
Jun 25th, 2007, 03:57 PM
A towering 13% above Schnyder. Wow.

First, I said "not quite true".
Second, yes, Statistics-wise 13% is a very big difference. Even 5% is a big difference.
For example, Mauresmo (much more respected player and by no means one slam wonder) is 50-58 (46%) combined vs Serena, Venus, Capriati, Davenport, Henin, Clijsters, Sharapova, Pierce, Kuznetsova, Dementieva while Myskina is 30-43 (41%) vs aforementioned players. 46% vs 41% - does it mean Amelie is not a threat for big players too? Obviously it doesn't.

Corswandt
Jun 26th, 2007, 02:58 AM
First, I said "not quite true".
Second, yes, Statistics-wise 13% is a very big difference. Even 5% is a big difference.
For example, Mauresmo (much more respected player and by no means one slam wonder) is 50-58 (46%) combined vs Serena, Venus, Capriati, Davenport, Henin, Clijsters, Sharapova, Pierce, Kuznetsova, Dementieva while Myskina is 30-43 (41%) vs aforementioned players. 46% vs 41% - does it mean Amelie is not a threat for big players too? Obviously it doesn't.

You deviously manipulate the samples to get the results you want.

For instance, I clearly stated "Slam contenders of her generation", yet you go on and include Sharapova because Myskina has a good H2H towards her while Schnyder's is shite.

Lies, damned lies and statistics.

Ravsieg
Jun 26th, 2007, 08:32 AM
Arguments aside, it'll be a shame to see the player that got me interested in tennis bowing out in such a bad fashion.

:sad:

Vlad Tepes
Jun 26th, 2007, 08:42 AM
She may be a one slam wonder but anyone who tries to discredit Myskina's French Open win with a bunch of excuses is completely wrong. She would have beat just about everyone with the way she was playing in that tournament. She beat Venus, a hot Capriati and Dementieva among others. She earned that win. Hope she gets back on track.

About anyone is right, but everyone got very lucky with Justine's exit. Otherwise I think a healthy Henin would have gone for the double without too much trouble. At least Henin managed to win a dream prize during those tough times: a shiny Olympic medal :worship:
Goodbye Anastasia, I've always liked her fighting spirit and her matches against Juju. Have a wonderful life and don't hesitate to return to the game, should you feel up to it. :kiss: :wavey:

Ben.
Jun 26th, 2007, 08:53 AM
well what ever happens to nastya, i hope she is happy & that she enjoys her life. why is nearly every poster so negative on here :( really :rolleyes:

AnnaK_4ever
Jun 26th, 2007, 01:08 PM
You deviously manipulate the samples to get the results you want.

For instance, I clearly stated "Slam contenders of her generation", yet you go on and include Sharapova because Myskina has a good H2H towards her while Schnyder's is shite.

Lies, damned lies and statistics.

:rolleyes:
Sharapova won her first Slam the same year as Myskina did it. Even if I exclude Masha from H2Hs Schnyder's winning ratio is 25%, Myskina's one is 36%. The difference is still big.
And what is "Schnyder's generation"? She first broke into Top-10 for like ten weeks in 1998-1999. Should I count her H2Hs vs Novotna (2-6), Sanchez (2-6), Martinez (3-8) instead of H2Hs vs Sharapova and Kuznetsova? In that case Patty's numbers would be even worse.
Sure, Schnyder defeated much more top-tenners overall than Myskina (35 vs 22), but unlike Myskina she hardly beat them in finals or semifinals of big events. That's why Myskina won 1 GS, 2 Tier I, and 3 Tier II and Schnyder won 1 Tier I and 1 Tier II.

Oh... and I believe it's hard to manipulate the facts but it's easy to manipulate the bold statements.

Corswandt
Jun 27th, 2007, 01:48 AM
:rolleyes:
Sharapova won her first Slam the same year as Myskina did it. Even if I exclude Masha from H2Hs Schnyder's winning ratio is 25%, Myskina's one is 36%. The difference is still big.

That was a start. Maybe we're actually going somewhere. Now remove Dementieva, who has been an intermittent Slam contender at best. Unsurprisingly included because Myskina has a favourable H2H towards her while Schnyder's is about even. Remove Kuznetsova as well, for the same reason(s).