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SerenaSlams
Jun 23rd, 2007, 05:14 PM
By Duncan Bech, PA Sport
sportinglife.com

Serena Williams has come to terms with her French Open nightmare by vowing she will never again exit a tournament "without a fight".

Williams was left seething by her capitulation to Justine Henin in the quarter-finals at Roland Garros earlier this month, allowing the eventual winner to register a simple 6-4 6-3 victory.

Since then she has engaged in a period of soul-searching and the 25-year-old is now confident she will enter Wimbledon, which begins on Monday, a more resilient player.

"I've thought about that performance a lot. Maybe I was a bit crazy in that game," he said.

"I haven't really been able to come to a conclusion as to why I played not only so flatly, but so horrendously, outrageously, absurdly.

"It was one of the worst matches I've ever played and it's not going to happen again. Let me repeat that, it's not going to happen again.

"In future I won't go out without a fight. If I do go out, it's going to be with a punch and with a bang."

Williams endured an injury-hit season last year with a knee problem forcing her to withdraw from Wimbledon and the French Open.

Accusations her commitment to tennis was waning were levelled amid a backdrop of declining form as she slumped to 140 in the world rankings - her lowest position since 1997.

But her surprise victory at the Australian Open in January pointed to a revival which she is convinced will continue at Wimbledon, where she was crowned champion in 2002 and 2003.

"I'm here to compete. I think I'm the best player out there when I'm playing well," she said.

"Like I always say, when I'm playing well it's hard for anyone to beat me. It's just a fact. I think a lot of people understand that.

"I don't think anyone that has to play me goes home and shouts with joy, although they play really hard against me.

"Tennis has always been a priority in my life and right now it's the same priority.

"The fact that I'm feeling good and that I'm not suffering with any injuries makes it easier to make it a priority.

"I don't have to go out and be in so much pain while playing. It just shows the dedication I have for myself and tennis."

Williams has been impressed by the form of sister Venus, who missed the Australian Open with a wrist injury, and she expects the 23rd seed to make an impact at the All England Club.

"Venus is the best grass court player in the draw. With her serve, her return, her volleys, she's always one to watch.

"She's extremely fit - this is the fittest I've ever seen her. She's playing really well. She's moving like the wind."

Williams, the American seventh seed, faces a simple opener against Lourdes Dominguez Lino of Spain, who was knocked out in the opening round of last year's championships.

"I always take the first round extremely seriously. From then on I take the rest of my matches really seriously," said Williams.

"Everyone in the first round really wants to take out a seed or a top player. I'm always really focused on that."



Simply Stunning, Simply Serena
:worship: 57 Consecutive Weeks as World #1 :worship:
:worship: Olympic Gold Medalist ('00 Doubles w/ Venus) :worship:

:inlove:
Jun 23rd, 2007, 05:17 PM
Love it. :hearts:
Come on Serena. :armed: :yeah: :D

SoClose
Jun 23rd, 2007, 05:21 PM
C'mon Venus and Serena!

woosey
Jun 23rd, 2007, 05:22 PM
serena gives good quotes.

maximus82
Jun 23rd, 2007, 05:22 PM
She huffs, she puffs, but will she blow the house down?

I guess we'll see.

(but Serena, seriously, I've seen you play worse matches...your constant hyperbole is grating)

RenaSlam.
Jun 23rd, 2007, 05:23 PM
Let's go Rena and Vee!

Reuchlin
Jun 23rd, 2007, 05:23 PM
Why does she feel the need to keep saying the same old, same old "If I'm playing well, I'm the best..." blah blah blah. You will eat some humble pie at Wimbledon.

rottweily
Jun 23rd, 2007, 05:25 PM
Same old, same old.
Good to see that she still hasn't got a clue.

RenaSlam.
Jun 23rd, 2007, 05:26 PM
Why does she feel the need to keep saying the same old, same old "If I'm playing well, I'm the best..." blah blah blah. You will eat some humble pie at Wimbledon.

And Why do you people like you insist on responding to her interviews like this...

SHE SAYS IT ALL THE TIME, SHE HAS SAID IT FOR YEARS, GET OVER IT...do you honestly think she will stop?

Perhaps her attitude and confidence (arrogance :)) is why she is the best player of the decade.

Craigy
Jun 23rd, 2007, 05:28 PM
Why does she feel the need to keep saying the same old, same old "If I'm playing well, I'm the best..." blah blah blah. You will eat some humble pie at Wimbledon.

Because she is. When she's at her best she doesn't lose.

cellophane
Jun 23rd, 2007, 05:28 PM
"I haven't really been able to come to a conclusion as to why I played not only so flatly, but so horrendously, outrageously, absurdly.

Serena sure knows how to create the drama. :help: She was flat in that match though.

new-york
Jun 23rd, 2007, 05:31 PM
i hope the wind won't blow too much outside of the court lines.:angel:

cellophane
Jun 23rd, 2007, 05:32 PM
i hope the wind won't blow too much outside of the court lines.:angel:

:lol: at your avatar.

Tennisaddict
Jun 23rd, 2007, 05:33 PM
Nice words from Serena about Venus. I hope they´re actually true and not meant as a disguise for the bottom half. I´m glad she´s trying to figure out what went wrong at RG and that she will fight in all her matches no matter what the conditions are. Yesterday on Jonathan Ross she said she choked in that match. I frankly never want to see the Serena of the RG quarterfinal 2007 again.

Reuchlin
Jun 23rd, 2007, 05:33 PM
Because she is. When she's at her best she doesn't lose.

Whether she is or not isnt the point, does she need to repeat it ALL THE TIME?--we heard her the first time.

RenaSlam.
Jun 23rd, 2007, 05:34 PM
Whether she is or not isnt the point, does she need to repeat it ALL THE TIME?--we heard her the first time.

Yeah, and we hear you people all the time criticizing her for her words.

Why do you have to repeat this?

maximus82
Jun 23rd, 2007, 05:37 PM
Just a for instance of Serena playing worse: Wimbledon final vs. Maria.

Lulu.
Jun 23rd, 2007, 05:38 PM
Whether she is or not isnt the point, does she need to repeat it ALL THE TIME?--we heard her the first time.

She can say whatever she wants when she wants so if you don't like it then too damn bad

winone23
Jun 23rd, 2007, 05:41 PM
And Why do you people like you insist on responding to her interviews like this...

SHE SAYS IT ALL THE TIME, SHE HAS SAID IT FOR YEARS, GET OVER IT...do you honestly think she will stop?

Perhaps her attitude and confidence (arrogance :)) is why she is the best player of the decade.

:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:

Tennisaddict
Jun 23rd, 2007, 05:42 PM
Just a for instance of Serena playing worse: Wimbledon final vs. Maria.

I think there´s not much difference to the cause of her bad play. She was nervous and very tight in both matches. She just could not bring it against two quality opponents. I hope she will at this Wimbledon. It should be enough against almost anyone.

winone23
Jun 23rd, 2007, 05:45 PM
Nice words from Serena about Venus. I hope they´re actually true and not meant as a disguise for the bottom half. I´m glad she´s trying to figure out what went wrong at RG and that she will fight in all her matches no matter what the conditions are. Yesterday on Jonathan Ross she said she choked in that match. I frankly never want to see the Serena of the RG quarterfinal 2007 again.

I think it's true because a reporter who saw Venus and Serena practicing said that Venus looked fit and she was at the moment hitting clean balls.

winone23
Jun 23rd, 2007, 05:45 PM
Go Venus and Serena!!!!

nhissan
Jun 23rd, 2007, 05:47 PM
In before haters, eh!? too late f*ck...

ce
Jun 23rd, 2007, 05:49 PM
gooo serena and venus
i want doubles crown.....
and not to beat jj:lol:

VishaalMaria
Jun 23rd, 2007, 05:51 PM
What the hell?! Every single tennis player should believe they are the best when they go out on court! Serena is no different....the only difference is, is that she actually has the guts to say it from her mouth! I'd rather have a tennis player like Serena who actually shows us why she's the best [and is all walk as well as talk] rather than putting up with the antics of someone who is too weak mentally. If a player doesnt believe they are the best then they should retire.

AND HATERS!!!!, THIS IS THE ATTITUDE THAT MADE SERENA SO SUCCESSFUL. DUMBASSES.

winone23
Jun 23rd, 2007, 05:51 PM
gooo serena and venus
i want doubles crown.....
and not to beat jj:lol:

The hell with JJ, right now it's all about Serena.

manu
Jun 23rd, 2007, 06:00 PM
I don't have a problem with Serena saying she always wins when she plays her best. Because on any surface except clay, that would be the case. So she's (almost) right.

What I do have a problem with however, is that she's saying she played 'horrendously, absurdly'. She played well below her best and indeed looked somewhat flat troughout the match, but she didn't play 'horrendously'. Justine regularly forced her into errors, it was not like Serena was hitting out or in the net at every point. She just has a high risk game that is prone to producing errors when a rally extends to a certain amount of shots. I'm saying that, even if Serena had played her A game, she would always be prone to making errors because Justine is very capable of extending the points and rallies. Besides, even a Serena at her best isn't beating a Justine at her best on clay. I realize that this is Serena's way of pumping herself up and she's not going to change that, but I hope the fans realize that what she's saying is only part of the truth.

Calypso
Jun 23rd, 2007, 06:09 PM
Serena is so dramatic!
I hope she left the horrendous, absurd tennis in Paris:lol: .

I hope its true what she said about Venus:bounce: !

serenafan08
Jun 23rd, 2007, 06:19 PM
Serena seems focused and ready to play. I'm excited - this is going to be a good tournament I think. We could see an all-Williams final again...we'll see!!!

LindsayRulz
Jun 23rd, 2007, 06:22 PM
Go Serena! :armed:

Knizzle
Jun 23rd, 2007, 06:24 PM
Reuchlin did you not see Australia?? Miami??

pigam
Jun 23rd, 2007, 06:26 PM
good for Serena :yeah:

Rosslyn
Jun 23rd, 2007, 06:38 PM
if she's the best, why dont' show it on the court ?

this is serena's big return year and she has 2 titles while justine has 5 (on every surface) and she didn't even play in australia.

serena won in miami, yes, but how ? was totally outplayed then the drama starts: a little bit of screaming, bitching, racket smashing and voila: great victory. but it can happen only once like that, she will have to play a good match from start to finish and even then it will be very close. she's too inconsistant and it's almost impossible to see her winning 7 matches in wimbledon without some big drama

pigam
Jun 23rd, 2007, 06:40 PM
if she's the best, why dont' show it on the court ?

this is serena's big return year and she has 2 titles while justine has 5 (on every surface) and she didn't even play in australia.

serena won in miami, yes, but how ? was totally outplayed then the drama starts: a little bit of screaming, bitching, racket smashing and voila: great victory. but it can happen only once like that, she will have to play a good match from start to finish and even then it will be very close. she's too inconsistant and it's almost impossible to see her winning 7 matches in wimbledon without some big drama

there there, let's not get ahead of ourselves.
watch some video's of an inform Serena and be humble.
I have full confidence in Justine's game. full confidence. But I also have it in Serena's. and quite frankly, so should you. she's perfectly capable of playing 7 great matches. so don't get "over confident". Just rake it one match at a time... why the need to hype everything up so much. :shrug:

Rosslyn
Jun 23rd, 2007, 06:43 PM
there there, let's not get ahead of ourselves.
watch some video's of an inform Serena and be humble.
I have full confidence in Justine's game. full confidence. But I also have it in Serena's. and quite frankly, so should you. she's perfectly capable of playing 7 great matches. so don't get "over confident". Just rake it one match at a time... why the need to hype everything up so much. :shrug:

when this inform serena played ? it wasn't in miami for sure, and beating sharapova in aopen was terrible match. serena from 2002 doesn't exist anymore

pigam
Jun 23rd, 2007, 06:49 PM
when this inform serena played ? it wasn't in miami for sure, and beating sharapova in aopen was terrible match. serena from 2002 doesn't exist anymore

I'm really not too sure.
Look, just saying.
If Serena serves very well, it is always going to be hard to return against her, and if she gets the first "missile groundstroke" it will always be difficult to rally with her on grass.

I don't want to discuss this over and over again.
it would just be nice if every Justine fan respected Serena's game from the bottem of their hearts, and vice versa. Both players deserve as much, imo.

Thanx4nothin
Jun 23rd, 2007, 06:49 PM
Same old, same old.
Good to see that she still hasn't got a clue.

:confused:

Radix2
Jun 23rd, 2007, 06:54 PM
if she's the best, why dont' show it on the court ?

this is serena's big return year and she has 2 titles while justine has 5 (on every surface) and she didn't even play in australia.

serena won in miami, yes, but how ? was totally outplayed then the drama starts: a little bit of screaming, bitching, racket smashing and voila: great victory. but it can happen only once like that, she will have to play a good match from start to finish and even then it will be very close. she's too inconsistant and it's almost impossible to see her winning 7 matches in wimbledon without some big drama

Of course Justine has five titles, she played more tournaments than Serena. Theses two ladies are the best players out there right now.

What the hell is wrong with drama.

Kunal
Jun 23rd, 2007, 06:54 PM
makin the same noise...good i guess

Rosslyn
Jun 23rd, 2007, 06:58 PM
I'm really not too sure.
Look, just saying.
If Serena serves very well, it is always going to be hard to return against her, and if she gets the first "missile groundstroke" it will always be difficult to rally with her on grass.

I don't want to discuss this over and over again.
it would just be nice if every Justine fan respected Serena's game from the bottem of their hearts, and vice versa. Both players deserve as much, imo.

I agree, but it's time to call spade a spade...Henin is dominating women's tennis and is a favorite in every match. I'm pretty sure she can take her responsibilities on the court and beat everyone. It's time to have a winning approach, she can't always be underdog, it's time for her to come out of her shell and play to the best of her abilities. Again, this is 2007, not 2002

pigam
Jun 23rd, 2007, 07:02 PM
I agree, but it's time to call spade a spade...Henin is dominating women's tennis and is a favorite in every match. I'm pretty sure she can take her responsibilities on the court and beat everyone. It's time to have a winning approach, she can't always be underdog, it's time for her to come out of her shell and play to the best of her abilities. Again, this is 2007, not 2002

Fair enough, if that's how you feel.
I just wouldn't undersestimate Serena and at the very least, speak highly respectfull of her game, even if it's 2007 and no longer 2003.
Just like ti would be nice for some people to recognise Justine's tennis qualities, also off clay.

But yeah, I guess real tennis fans are able to do that, so it'sll good.
It's just too bad this board seems to be a reflexion of "the real world", far too much aggressive, antagonising and disrespectfull approach, if you ask me.

nhissan
Jun 23rd, 2007, 07:05 PM
pigam you are a real fan :rocker2:

Rosslyn
Jun 23rd, 2007, 07:06 PM
Of course Justine has five titles, she played more tournaments than Serena. Theses two ladies are the best players out there right now.

What the hell is wrong with drama.

well, I was thinking about situation when she's in losing position, then she will create some drama like in miami and if her opponent isn't focused on her own game, then it's over. Serena's fans complaining how she wasn't really fighting in FO. But it was a rare ocasion to see her behaving well on the court when she was losing. They expect her to scream and bitch and throw racket and then they know she's fighting

DOUBLEFIST
Jun 23rd, 2007, 07:06 PM
:lol: at Rottweily and Reuchlin! :haha:

Talk about obsessed with Serena! :ha: (I think they're secretely Serena fans in a weird way). Rosslyn your comments aren't even worth sincere consideration.

Pigam, nice comments. Sensible. I may not even remotely be a Juju fan, but I CERTAINLY respect her game.

I'm glad to see Serena has TRUE perspective on RG. She identified the fact that she did play weirdly (who could look at all those wacky slices and not say the same thing :lol: ) and that she did not FIGHT. For me it wasn't so much about the loss, after all, Justine was the favorite. She's the Queen of the clay and she proved it. It was HOW Serena lost, ie, without FIGHT! That was truly the WEIRDEST thing ever coming from Serena who has made her legend out of fighting.

It sounds like Serena is ready to fight again. As for the comments about Venus, I'll believe it when I see it (sorry). :shrug:

mdterp01
Jun 23rd, 2007, 07:07 PM
Jesus..its Serena's interview. She doesn't need any advice from you people on what she should or should not say. If you don't like it...too damn bad.

Rosslyn
Jun 23rd, 2007, 07:11 PM
Fair enough, if that's how you feel.
I just wouldn't undersestimate Serena and at the very least, speak highly respectfull of her game, even if it's 2007 and no longer 2003.
Just like ti would be nice for some people to recognise Justine's tennis qualities, also off clay.

But yeah, I guess real tennis fans are able to do that, so it'sll good.
It's just too bad this board seems to be a reflexion of "the real world", far too much aggressive, antagonising and disrespectfull approach, if you ask me.

I agree, but Justine is changed...to the point that it even doesn't matter what Serena or any other player does on the court. If they both play their best games, Justine wins, and it's even not that important match, she will have still a lot to do to win SF and finals

dwynn10
Jun 23rd, 2007, 07:12 PM
She huffs, she puffs, but will she blow the house down?

I guess we'll see.

(but Serena, seriously, I've seen you play worse matches...your constant hyperbole is grating)

Looks like the sisters are back in trash-talking mode, which has always been their natural tendency. Any earlier attempts at decorum and respect toward other players seem to have been just an act. Let's see if they can back up their loud mouth with loud action this time, unlike at the French Open.

CANDYCOATED
Jun 23rd, 2007, 07:15 PM
Of course Venus would look good on grass...you dont hardly have to hit many long rallies and its just a series of hard shots that will do the trick, and we all know the main weapon in Venus's arsenal is "hard flat shots"

Now when we leave grass and head over to a slower surface, we shall all see "just how good" venus is REALLY hitting, and im sure the return of 60 + unforced errors will return as well...'


shes lucky grass allows her to finish off points with one big shot....thats all im gonna say.

Serena: i believe her, shes gonna win wimbledon.

Marshmallow
Jun 23rd, 2007, 07:15 PM
I love to hear Serena talking that way, but i can't help but LMAO at her quotes on Venus. Pure comedy. 'Venus is moving like the WIND' :spit: Fittest she has ever seen her :tape: Which is why Venus looked like she needed an Oxygen tank during the third set of her match against Jankovic at the french :lol:

But either way, i wish them both the best, and hope they walk the walk.

CANDYCOATED
Jun 23rd, 2007, 07:17 PM
Here's another chest-thumping article:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19389636/

Looks like the sisters are back in trash-talking mode, which has always been their natural tendency. Any earlier attempts at decorum and respect toward other players seem to have been just an act. Let's see if they can back up their loud mouth with loud action this time, unlike at the French Open.

they can trash talk all they want, fact is Venus is playing like crap and not even the one tournament she could win all season long even if she is playing crap will ever change the fact that shes NO LONGER the player she once was, and CERTAINLY not in any position to talk smack about others...

Serena can talk the big talk, at least she can back it up....Venus has been a disaster however and should keep her trap shut.:help:

mdterp01
Jun 23rd, 2007, 07:18 PM
I agree, but Justine is changed...to the point that it even doesn't matter what Serena or any other player does on the court. If they both play their best games, Justine wins, and it's even not that important match, she will have still a lot to do to win SF and finals

Thats debatable but if thats what you believe...cool. I happen to believe as most others that when Serena is playing at her best, no one is beating her that day.

Mina Vagante
Jun 23rd, 2007, 07:20 PM
Because she is. When she's at her best she doesn't lose.

so true, even commentators have said.

vejh
Jun 23rd, 2007, 07:22 PM
Pigam, you are a treasure:)

Natasc
Jun 23rd, 2007, 07:25 PM
Same old, same old.
Good to see that she still hasn't got a clue.

agreed

and people, there's a line that defines very well the difference between "arrogance" and "confidence"
those 2 never walk together btw.....

volta
Jun 23rd, 2007, 07:28 PM
get it Rena :worship:

just hope she doesn't put lots of pressure on herself to win this and has some fun unlike on the FO but either way Go team Williams :bounce:

Yonexforever
Jun 23rd, 2007, 07:29 PM
Oh to hell with all you haters!
She says what she says.. like it or lump it!
I dont see anyone else giving any sound bites worth a damn!

CANDYCOATED
Jun 23rd, 2007, 07:30 PM
Thats debatable but if thats what you believe...cool. I happen to believe as most others that when Serena is playing at her best, no one is beating her that day.



i have one name for you: jennifer Capriati


forget her? thats right, she beat your "unbeatable" serena at "her best"

so that argument is debatable also....

Vlad Tepes
Jun 23rd, 2007, 07:31 PM
It's sickening to hear Serena saying such things about herself. LISTEN HERE, WOMAN!!!! IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW GOOD YOU ARE, YOU MAY BE THE FREAKING BEST PLAYER IN THE UNIVERSE AND WIN EVERY MATCH EASILY (WHICH IS CLEARLY NOT THE CASE), IT WOULD STILL BE A SIGN OF POOR UPBRINGING AND DISGUSTING ARROGANCE TO SAY SUCH A THING. LEARN SOME MODESTY FOR A CHANGE, IT DOESN'T HURT AND WOULD MAKE YOU AN OFF-COURT CHAMPION AS WELL. OH, AND TO ALL YOUR FANS FROM THE HOODS, WHO PROBABLY THINK IT'S VERY HIP TO TALK THAT WAY: JUST REFRAIN FROM YOUR USUAL BIASED AND IRRATIONAL COMMENTS, ALTHOUGH I SINCERELY DOUBT ANY OF YOU CAN DO THAT.
There, someone had to say it!

pigam
Jun 23rd, 2007, 07:33 PM
It's sickening to hear Serena saying such things about herself. LISTEN HERE, WOMAN!!!! IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW GOOD YOU ARE, YOU MAY BE THE FREAKING BEST PLAYER IN THE UNIVERSE AND WIN EVERY MATCH EASILY (WHICH IS CLEARLY NOT THE CASE), IT WOULD STILL BE A SIGN OF POOR UPBRINGING AND DISGUSTING ARROGANCE TO SAY SUCH A THING. LEARN SOME MODESTY FOR A CHANGE, IT DOESN'T HURT AND WOULD MAKE YOU AN OFF-COURT CHAMPION AS WELL. OH, AND ALL YOUR FANS FROM THE HOODS, WHO PROBABLY THINK IT'S VERY HIP TO TALK THAT WAY, JUST REFRAIN FROM YOUR USUAL BIASED AND IRRATIONAL COMMENTS, ALTHOUGH I SINCERELY DOUBT ANY OF YOU CAN DO THAT.
There, someone had to say it!

not really :unsure:
could have figured this thread would degrade quickly

Tennisaddict
Jun 23rd, 2007, 07:33 PM
I agree, but Justine is changed...to the point that it even doesn't matter what Serena or any other player does on the court. If they both play their best games, Justine wins, and it's even not that important match, she will have still a lot to do to win SF and finals

That is the most delusional comment I read in this thread so far. Justine is the better claycourter obviously, but do you really think she´s better than Serena on the faster surfaces? Justine has improved but she´s still not at Serena´s level when Serena plays her best. Serena beats Justine in the serve department alone without even bringing up their matchups in baseline rallies. I think you see what you want to see, but that´s not reality.

StarDuvallGrant
Jun 23rd, 2007, 07:35 PM
It's sickening to hear Serena saying such things about herself. LISTEN HERE, WOMAN!!!! IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW GOOD YOU ARE, YOU MAY BE THE FREAKING BEST PLAYER IN THE UNIVERSE AND WIN EVERY MATCH EASILY (WHICH IS CLEARLY NOT THE CASE), IT WOULD STILL BE A SIGN OF POOR UPBRINGING AND DISGUSTING ARROGANCE TO SAY SUCH A THING. LEARN SOME MODESTY FOR A CHANGE, IT DOESN'T HURT AND WOULD MAKE YOU AN OFF-COURT CHAMPION AS WELL. OH, AND TO ALL YOUR FANS FROM THE HOODS, WHO PROBABLY THINK IT'S VERY HIP TO TALK THAT WAY: JUST REFRAIN FROM YOUR USUAL BIASED AND IRRATIONAL COMMENTS, ALTHOUGH I SINCERELY DOUBT ANY OF YOU CAN DO THAT.
There, someone had to say it!

Not surprising this comes from a Justine fan. Typical really.

rottweily
Jun 23rd, 2007, 07:36 PM
:lol: at Rottweily and Reuchlin! :haha:


What's up?, I only told the obvious:

"Same old, same old.
Good to see that she still hasn't got a clue [why she lost at RG2007]."

mdterp01
Jun 23rd, 2007, 07:40 PM
i have one name for you: jennifer Capriati


forget her? thats right, she beat your "unbeatable" serena at "her best"

so that argument is debatable also....

UMMM...I SAID IT WAS DEBATABLE SO WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKIN ABOUT?!!!! Its my OPINION...I said if you believed it about Justine than cool. I believe it about Serena (I.E. DEBATABLE) Jesus...someone call the short yellow bus.

Tennisaddict
Jun 23rd, 2007, 07:42 PM
they can trash talk all they want, fact is Venus is playing like crap and not even the one tournament she could win all season long even if she is playing crap will ever change the fact that shes NO LONGER the player she once was, and CERTAINLY not in any position to talk smack about others...

Serena can talk the big talk, at least she can back it up....Venus has been a disaster however and should keep her trap shut.:help:

:lol: at you guys Venus hasn´t even said anything and you are lumping her together. You are the only ones that are trastalking about something that wasn´t even said by Venus :lol:

Oh and Pigam thanks for your comments they are a real refreshment in the midst of many deluded Justine fans talking :yeah:

bandabou
Jun 23rd, 2007, 07:44 PM
Why do people see it as arrogance??? Why not look at it as being confident? Maybe Serena needs this so she can play good.

What she says is only how she feels about herself. What people expect of her? That she says: Whooooo....I'm SOOOOO afraid of that QF against Justine?

Rosslyn
Jun 23rd, 2007, 07:47 PM
Thats debatable but if thats what you believe...cool. I happen to believe as most others that when Serena is playing at her best, no one is beating her that day.

well, this is how I see it: some Serena fans are obsessed with 'Serena kicking Justine's ass at Wimbledon'. Why is that ? is it only because of FO ? For me, Wimbledon is much more than that, there are 126 other players in the draw. Are we going to hear and read every day same old stories and same old bragging from Serena's fans and Serena herself? I think we will, so next 2 weeks I'm staying out of this place.

Vlad Tepes
Jun 23rd, 2007, 07:48 PM
Look, I don't hate Serena and I respect what she has achieved. But I also admire modesty a lot, not taken to the extreme of course, but saying every time that you are the best and lose just because you played poorly, even if it's true is in bad taste. It's ok for her to speak her mind, by all means, and this is what she believes, but she could also give other players some credit when they deserve it. And right now she is #8 in the world, so she has a mountain to climb before she can back up her statements with an adequate ranking.

mdterp01
Jun 23rd, 2007, 07:49 PM
Hmmm lets see...#8 in the world going into Wimbledon or #81 heading into Australia. I think Serena has already proven she can climb mountains.

dwynn10
Jun 23rd, 2007, 07:50 PM
Oh to hell with all you haters!
She says what she says.. like it or lump it!
I dont see anyone else giving any sound bites worth a damn!

It's infantile behavior to label people who disagree "haterzz" and it's just as easy to lob back another label at people like you, but I won't play that game. Obviously, Serena can say whatever she wants and obviously people will feel free to give their opinions on her words, despite your effort to stop dissenting views :shrug:

Bijoux0021
Jun 23rd, 2007, 07:50 PM
I'm so happy Serena realized how horrible she played in the quarters in Paris. But more importantly, how she didn't put up a fight. Her lack of fight was a lot more disturbing to me than anything else. That was not Serena, the fighter, we all know she's always been. I wouldn't worry too much about how badly she'd played and lost, that I can take. Not to fight was a NO, NO.

I hope I never see that Serena again.

mdterp01
Jun 23rd, 2007, 07:50 PM
:lol: at you guys Venus hasn´t even said anything and you are lumping her together. You are the only ones that are trastalking about something that wasn´t even said by Venus :lol:

Oh and Pigam thanks for your comments they are a real refreshment in the midst of many deluded Justine fans talking :yeah:

Because some of these idiots can't separate Venus from Serena and do just what you said....lump them in together. I was thinking the same thing. Venus didn't even say a thing and here come the morons talkin about Venus needs to shut up. :rolleyes: Sit and spin!!

Vlad Tepes
Jun 23rd, 2007, 07:59 PM
Hmmm lets see...#8 in the world going into Wimbledon or #81 heading into Australia. I think Serena has already proven she can climb mountains.

Justine Henin and especially Kim Clijters also made amazing come-backs a few years ago and there never was any doubt in my mind that Serena would do the same. But it's one thing to climb fast when your very low and quite another to get back on top when there are only players like Justine, Maria, Jelena, etc. left in front of you. I know Serena has demolished Maria twice this year and proved she is a better player/fighter, but these girls play a lot more than Serena does and it will be very hard to pass them in the rankings. It's a bit amusing to claim you are the best although the rather objective ranking system says otherwise. Of course Serena has a lot of points to gain as she hasn't played too much last year, but then so does Justine, who has missed the Australian summer and everything between the US Open and the YEC.

vejh
Jun 23rd, 2007, 08:06 PM
Wow, there are about 3 Ju fans who dare to say Ju is up to the task and Serena's statements are a bit arrogant and they are labelled delusional. And the one fan who dare not to challenge Serena's statement is the best. LOL. Funny funny. In other words; every other fan should know their place.lol

pigam
Jun 23rd, 2007, 08:07 PM
Not surprising this comes from a Justine fan. Typical really.

and quite typical of you to only quote this post by one Justine fan :yeah:

Vlad Tepes
Jun 23rd, 2007, 08:12 PM
Well there are fans and fans, I guess I'm one who doesn't agree with such statements, while others may think otherwise. However, this doesn't have anything to do with me being a Justine fan, I would have reacted in the same way to any player stating such things, even to Justine (although in a milder voice, that's true :p ).

SJW
Jun 23rd, 2007, 08:14 PM
I'm pretty sure Henin doesn't need Serena to validate her existence so her fans should stop throwing tantrums.

"wah wah wah. Serena has confidence in her abilities. What about Justine??? WHAT ABOUT JUSTINE??? SAY HOW GOOD JUSTINE IS" :baby:

Bijoux0021
Jun 23rd, 2007, 08:15 PM
:lol: at Rottweily and Reuchlin! :haha:

Talk about obsessed with Serena! :ha: (I think they're secretely Serena fans in a weird way). Rosslyn your comments aren't even worth sincere consideration.

Pigam, nice comments. Sensible. I may not even remotely be a Juju fan, but I CERTAINLY respect her game.

I'm glad to see Serena has TRUE perspective on RG. She identified the fact that she did play weirdly (who could look at all those wacky slices and not say the same thing :lol: ) and that she did not FIGHT. For me it wasn't so much about the loss, after all, Justine was the favorite. She's the Queen of the clay and she proved it. It was HOW Serena lost, ie, without FIGHT! That was truly the WEIRDEST thing ever coming from Serena who has made her legend out of fighting.

It sounds like Serena is ready to fight again. As for the comments about Venus, I'll believe it when I see it (sorry). :shrug:
I agree. Serena has been saying these things about Venus all year, and for the most part, Venus has not lived up to those words. Obviously, Serena is worried about Venus, or she wouldn't feel the need to keep defending her inconsistencies this year. As long as Venus stays healthy, she'll soon get her game together, which is what I believe Serena is hoping for.

simba
Jun 23rd, 2007, 08:16 PM
wow, you guys take things too seriously. stop the drama, relaxe and enjoy Wimbledon.

StarDuvallGrant
Jun 23rd, 2007, 08:21 PM
I'm so happy Serena realized how horrible she played in the quarters in Paris. But more importantly, how she didn't put up a fight. Her lack of fight was a lot more disturbing to me than anything else. That was not Serena, the fighter, we all know she's always been. I wouldn't worry too much about how badly she'd played and lost, that I can take. Not to fight was a NO, NO.

I hope I never see that Serena again.

I think that was perhaps the most disappointing aspect of the FO loss, not necessarily the loss itself. It was just hard watching Serena like that, the energy was taken out even as a viewer.

StarDuvallGrant
Jun 23rd, 2007, 08:23 PM
and quite typical of you to only quote this post by one Justine fan :yeah:

When the only examples are what seem to be the norm and the same regular ones by Justine fans, yes, I'll quote them :yeah:

Bijoux0021
Jun 23rd, 2007, 08:26 PM
Why do people see it as arrogance??? Why not look at it as being confident? Maybe Serena needs this so she can play good.

What she says is only how she feels about herself. What people expect of her? That she says: Whooooo....I'm SOOOOO afraid of that QF against Justine?
That's exactly what they want. According to the haters, the Williams sisters are not allowed to be confident.

mykarma
Jun 23rd, 2007, 08:27 PM
Whether she is or not isnt the point, does she need to repeat it ALL THE TIME?--we heard her the first time.
We also read your post the first time.

Vlad Tepes
Jun 23rd, 2007, 08:27 PM
I'm pretty sure Henin doesn't need Serena to validate her existence so her fans should stop throwing tantrums.

"wah wah wah. Serena has confidence in her abilities. What about Justine??? WHAT ABOUT JUSTINE??? SAY HOW GOOD JUSTINE IS" :baby:

This has absolutely nothing to do with Justine, it's about Serena's cocky atitude. Of course Juju doesn't need Serena or her fans to acknowledge her acomplishments, she's a great champion and even they know it, although they may not always admit it.

Bijoux0021
Jun 23rd, 2007, 08:27 PM
I think that was perhaps the most disappointing aspect of the FO loss, not necessarily the loss itself. It was just hard watching Serena like that, the energy was taken out even as a viewer.
EXACTLY!

mykarma
Jun 23rd, 2007, 08:28 PM
In before haters, eh!? too late f*ck...
:lol::lol::lol:

Venus+Serena#1fan
Jun 23rd, 2007, 08:29 PM
I like hearing Serena say she will not go down without a fight, she could have truly done much better in her qf match in Paris, yet one must still realize that a very FLAT Serena still had a better result against Justine than JAnkovic or Ivanovic in the SF and Finals....

However, I just hope that Serena is able to stay on top of her game because Point Blank: IF she comes out playing like she did in the AO final on grass, she will undoubtedly blitz her way to the finals where only a top notch Venus would have a chance against her.

We know SErena's heart is a huge asset and weapon but hopefully she will just rely on her game and not have to fight!

adison-hingis
Jun 23rd, 2007, 08:30 PM
lol... Serena is just a wild girl

Nabalonge
Jun 23rd, 2007, 08:32 PM
This has absolutely nothing to do with Justine, it's about Serena's cocky atitude. Of course Juju doesn't need Serena or her fans to acknowledge her acomplishments, she's a great champion and even they know it, although they may not always admit it.

The Justine fans who came into this Serena thread made it about Justine. Don't be ignorant to that fact. SJW is correct in her assessment.

pigam
Jun 23rd, 2007, 08:33 PM
When the only examples are what seem to be the norm and the same regular ones by Justine fans, yes, I'll quote them :yeah:

I guess my English isn't good enough to understand that sentence.
too bad :shrug:

hablo
Jun 23rd, 2007, 08:36 PM
I'm pretty sure Henin doesn't need Serena to validate her existence so her fans should stop throwing tantrums.

"wah wah wah. Serena has confidence in her abilities. What about Justine??? WHAT ABOUT JUSTINE??? SAY HOW GOOD JUSTINE IS" :baby:

Well put.

SJW
Jun 23rd, 2007, 08:40 PM
It's sickening to hear Serena saying such things about herself. LISTEN HERE, WOMAN!!!! IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW GOOD YOU ARE, YOU MAY BE THE FREAKING BEST PLAYER IN THE UNIVERSE AND WIN EVERY MATCH EASILY (WHICH IS CLEARLY NOT THE CASE), IT WOULD STILL BE A SIGN OF POOR UPBRINGING AND DISGUSTING ARROGANCE TO SAY SUCH A THING. LEARN SOME MODESTY FOR A CHANGE, IT DOESN'T HURT AND WOULD MAKE YOU AN OFF-COURT CHAMPION AS WELL. OH, AND TO ALL YOUR FANS FROM THE HOODS, WHO PROBABLY THINK IT'S VERY HIP TO TALK THAT WAY: JUST REFRAIN FROM YOUR USUAL BIASED AND IRRATIONAL COMMENTS, ALTHOUGH I SINCERELY DOUBT ANY OF YOU CAN DO THAT.
There, someone had to say it!

How very fucking offensive.

Listen "oh great Justine fan", Serena doesn't owe Justine anything. Hell, she showed what grace and class she had by her reaction after Wimbledon 2003 and in their subsequent matches. She has extreme confidence in her abilities, and why shouldn't she? She is Serena Williams. I won't bore you with a list of her achievements, but if she thinks she's the best, then she's allowed to say it. If Seles was playing, or someone who had achieved more at the highest level of singles activity, then yes, it would be in poor taste. But in terms of singles slams, she is peerless. She has been there and done it all at all four majors.

This same attitude is what brought her all this success, and that is what is irritating you and your little "classy" buddies. She could very well lose in her first round match, but she believes in herself, her shots and her chances and that is what makes her a champion. You don't have to agree with what she says, and I wouldn't expect you to since very few of you lot can bring yourselves to appreciate everything she's done on the court, but she, like Federer, has earnt the right to talk shit because they have backed it up in their careers.

Now, if you could possibly refrain from your usual biased, irrational and disrespectful comments about Serena, her fans, and their class and background, you would see that you're guilty of everything Serena has done wrong in your eyes, and more. The thing is, she has the class and grace not to talk about her rival or her rivals fans how you (and some of your other little friends) have talked about her in this thread. She doesn't bitch about how someone and her sister is bad for tennis, or their supposed arrogance, or get her coach to wade in with his big mouth or other petty attributes that certain other players have been guilty of in the past. When asked directly about Henin she only has positive things to say, and that's what makes her and off-court champion.

StarDuvallGrant
Jun 23rd, 2007, 08:42 PM
I guess my English isn't good enough to understand that sentence.
too bad :shrug:

Your English doesn't have to be great to know what your group is like. I can only quote what Justine fans write. It is the regular negative and at times offensive remarks. The same old stuff. It is too bad that is their norm :shrug:

Vaidisova
Jun 23rd, 2007, 08:43 PM
S. Williams - 23 June


THE MODERATOR: First question for Serena, please.


Q. You and Venus are sitting around one day, and one of you says to the other, "Why don't we play doubles? We haven't played doubles in a long time." Is that about how it happened?
SERENA WILLIAMS: You know, we've always wanted to play doubles and keep up our doubles experience. We were like, okay, when we get better, when our bodies are feeling better, we're going to play doubles again.
It was just a matter of time of us getting more healthy. Now that we're healthy, we'll likely play doubles.

Q. Are you excited about that possibility?
SERENA WILLIAMS: I'm really excited. I can't wait for the first round. We take it very seriously. We love to play doubles, especially at Wimbledon.

Q. When you left the French Open you were saying, Going to go back to Florida, it's going to be hot, training is going to be hard, going to get me fit for Wimbledon. How did that all go?
SERENA WILLIAMS: Well, I was able to go home and train some more. Pretty redundant. I'm glad to be gone from that.

Q. How does it feel to be back at Wimbledon after year away?
SERENA WILLIAMS: It's awesome. I haven't played here in a while, so... I love Wimbledon. Obviously I love the courts. I look forward to it.

Q. What message do you think Wimbledon is sending with the equal prize money?
SERENA WILLIAMS: You know, I think it sends a great message. I mean, obviously back in the '70s, when Billie Jean King took a stand for women's tennis, I don't remember if it was six or eight, however other many players, they wanted equal prize money. '70s was a while ago. I wasn't even born then. It's taken this long to have equal prize money now at Wimbledon.
I think it's, uhm, a step in the right direction I mean just for not only tennis but just for women's sports, for women all around.

Q. You are not the No. 1 seed, but you're easily the betting favorite in this country to win this tournament. Do you feel confident about that, too?
SERENA WILLIAMS: I just feel really relaxed. I mean, I don't feel any pressure. I don't know. I feel really just like -- I don't know. I don't feel pressure at all.

Q. Confident?
SERENA WILLIAMS: I'm always confident. But I'm feeling really confident this week.

Q. When was the last time you were as fit and as well-prepared for Wimbledon?
SERENA WILLIAMS: I don't know (smiling). I have a bad memory, as I always say. Maybe the summer of '63 (smiling).

Q. At the Australian Open, nobody thought you would stand much of a chance. You won the whole thing. Are we going to see that Serena this time? You've been an unknown quantity because of your illnesses and injuries over the last few years. Which Serena is here at Wimbledon?
SERENA WILLIAMS: Well, I'm here to compete. I think the best Serena always shows up at any event whenever I'm healthy. For me it's always been about being healthy. I'm feeling pretty healthy. That's what matters.

Q. What type of statement do you think you've made with your commitment and your comeback from being at one of the lowest points in your career to having won a Grand Slam this year and to be much more at the top of your game?
SERENA WILLIAMS: Yeah, I think I just made a statement that, uhm, I'm still, I think, the best player out here when I'm playing well. Like I always say, when I'm playing well, it's hard for anyone to beat me.
It's just a fact. I think a lot of people understand that. I don't think anyone that has to play me goes home and shouts with joy. Granted, they play me really hard and that gives them more confidence to have a chance to beat me.

Q. What about in terms of the degree that tennis is a priority in your life? That's something that others have questioned.
SERENA WILLIAMS: Yes, that's also a statement I've made. I mean, tennis has always been a priority in my life. And right now, it's the same priority.
The fact that I'm feeling good and that I'm not suffering with any injuries right now, it makes it easier to make it a priority because you don't have to, like, go out and be in so much pain while you're playing or anything. It just shows the dedication I have for myself and the sport of tennis.

Q. That performance in your loss at the French Open, many of us have never seen you that flat in a performance before. Did you do some soul searching about that, why you came out and played an entire match in a flat emotional state?
SERENA WILLIAMS: Yeah, I did think about it a lot. I just think I was crazy maybe. I never really came to a conclusion as to why I played not only so flat but so horrendous, outrageously absurd. I think it was one of the worst matches I've ever played.

Q. How do you avoid that happening again?
SERENA WILLIAMS: It's not gonna happen again. I mean, it's not gonna happen again. I'm not gonna go out without a fight. If I do go out, it's going to be with a punch, with a bang, you know.

Q. How did you enjoy being on the Jonathan Ross show? What did you make of him?
SERENA WILLIAMS: Jonathan Ross is really a funny character. He made me laugh a lot. They cut out a lot of the interview, which I think was for the best (laughter).

Q. Were you swearing?
SERENA WILLIAMS: Not on my behalf (smiling).

Q. Do you feel hungrier than ever for success to win because of injuries?
SERENA WILLIAMS: I'm not eating as much, so... (Smiling). But I'm definitely more determined, definitely hungry, as you say, just because I enjoy playing and I enjoy winning and I enjoy the battle. I enjoy being out there.
My least favorite thing is to go home and watch someone else enjoy being out there. That's kind of tough.

Q. Have you informed Zina Garrison, or do you intend to inform her, that you will be in Stowe, Vermont, the week after this tournament?
SERENA WILLIAMS: Yeah, I have plans of being there. It's a shame it's right after Wimbledon. You know, I definitely plan on being there, not only supporting Zina but supporting my country, playing Fed Cup. I've already planned on being there. It's just like, I have a big summer coming up.

Q. Do you know if Venus has the same attitude right now?
SERENA WILLIAMS: Yeah, I believe she does have the same attitude. Like we said, not only for Zina, but just to play Fed Cup. We'd like to see the trophy back in the United States, where it belongs.

Q. Do you feel your hunger and drive and determination that you have now is partly because of the last few years, the injuries, the illnesses, it's kind of made you miss being at the top, whereas if you had been there and stayed at the top, maybe it would have been hard, as a lot of the girls find? Having been away from it for a while, maybe it's a good thing for you in one sense?
SERENA WILLIAMS: Well, I guess you can look at it optimistically like that. Ideally I would have preferred to, you know, be there and stay on the top throughout my whole career. I think that would have been perfect and fabulous.
But I think what makes a real champion is someone that can fall and dust themselves off and get up.

Q. What do you make of Centre Court this year? Obviously some changes. Do you think it will have any impact on the tennis?
SERENA WILLIAMS: I haven't seen Centre Court. I don't really know. It won't affect my tennis, per se. Maybe someone else's. You know, I grew up on some pretty tough courts. This is splendid compared to where I come from.

Q. You talk about the injuries and the fact you're pain-free now, do you put it down to a change of fortune, or do you think you're a lot smarter now and managing things a lot better in terms of just how you prepare, how you recuperate from matches, that sort of thing?
SERENA WILLIAMS: Medicines.

Q. Do you change how you go about it? You wouldn't think it would sort of change by accident that you would have a good run with injuries.
SERENA WILLIAMS: I don't know. I mean, maybe I'm doing different things that relate to my specific injuries that help me not have the same problems as before. I'm not doing anything too much different.

Q. Do you spend more or less time on the court, for example, in terms of practice hours?
SERENA WILLIAMS: I've never been one that's really huge on staying out on the court 12 hours a day. Venus always practices a lot, though.
It's about the same. Like I said, I'm just doing more things for my particular injury that helps me.

Q. Could Venus be one of your biggest challenges this year perhaps, one of your biggest rivals?
SERENA WILLIAMS: Yeah, I think she's the best grass court player in the draw. I think with her serve, her return, her volleys, you know, she's always one to watch.

Q. Tennis is about self-belief, isn't it? Although you're not No. 1 ranked in the world, do you believe you are the best player in the world among the women at the moment?
SERENA WILLIAMS: Like I said, I believe I'm definitely the best player if I'm playing well, it's hard for anyone to beat me. Like I said, it's not even a belief; it's more of a fact.

Q. There's always anticipation of you and your sister's style on court. Can you give us an idea of what you're wearing this year?
SERENA WILLIAMS: I'm wearing white for sure. That's definitely for sure. I'm sticking with that motif.

Q. Any particular style?
SERENA WILLIAMS: No, pretty similar to what I wore in Paris.

Q. Can you tell us what you think of the new look of Centre Court without the roof, if it reminds you of anywhere?
SERENA WILLIAMS: Yeah, no, I haven't seen it. I never really get a chance to see Centre Court too much, this Centre Court, too much before.

Q. Do you think it will change the atmosphere a lot with no roof?
SERENA WILLIAMS: I don't know. I think as long as the court is still there, for me it will be okay (laughter). I don't know if it's there or not. That's going to be a problem.

Q. What do you think of the opportunity to have points corrected?
SERENA WILLIAMS: It's great. I don't have to worry about hitting shots two feet in, having them called out. That's going to be real exciting.
I really like it. It works.

Q. Are the first few rounds always a bit of a concern, or do you think you're going to hit the ground running this year?
SERENA WILLIAMS: Always for me I take the first round extremely serious. From then on out I take the rest of my matches really serious. I just try to keep going.
Everyone in the first round really wants to take out a seed or a top player. I'm always really focused.

Q. You said when Venus is on, grass is a great surface for her, she's the best on grass. What is your assessment of where she is in her game and her fitness right now?
SERENA WILLIAMS: Yeah, I think Venus is extremely fit. I think this is the most I've ever seen her -- the fittest I've ever seen her, I should say. She's playing really well. She's moving like the wind.

Q. What are your expectations for her performance here?
SERENA WILLIAMS: I haven't thought about it. I try to focus on this side of the street more than anything (smiling). She's my sister. I love her dearly. I can guarantee you, she has the same answer.

Q. Apart from your sister, who else will you be watching out for this year?
SERENA WILLIAMS: You know, I'm definitely going to be watching a lot of Federer and Nadal. I would love to see another repeat of that final. I like Baghdatis.

Q. Who do you think would also be a threat on the women's tour apart from your sister?
SERENA WILLIAMS: You know, everybody. I mean, like I said, everyone I play plays really hard. The girl I played at the opening of the French Open, I thought she was the champ. Everyone I have to play plays tough.

Q. Where does Wimbledon come in your own sort of to-do list? If you were to win this time, how special would that be compared to other achievements you've had?
SERENA WILLIAMS: It would be awesome because obviously I wanted it when I won it, in the past. I mean, I really want it. You have to pay the price to get it. I think I paid the price. If not, there's always next year.

Q. What do you think it's like for Federer trying to go for five in a row, having gone for three in a row yourself?
SERENA WILLIAMS: Well, I mean, he doesn't seem to lose too much. I think he has a great chance. If I could, I'd put money on him. I don't know if I can or not (smiling). But, yeah, I think he has a really good chance.

Q. Obviously at the French we saw two Serbian players really come into form, Ivanovic and Jankovic. Is that the sign of a new breed of tennis player coming through, or do you expect it to be for a while Henin, Mauresmo, Sharapova that you're really fighting against in the latter stages of a tournament like this?
SERENA WILLIAMS: I think it's strange how they always come in twos, like Henin and Clijsters. Now it's like Ivanovic and Jankovic. I think they're really solid players. I think Jankovic is a really all-around court player.
I don't think it was a fluke or anything. I think they're around to stay.

Q. The Americans had a bad tournament last year. What do you think on behalf of the Americans this year?
SERENA WILLIAMS: Well, I wasn't here, so...

Q. I know, but...
SERENA WILLIAMS: That's the answer. That's why. So now that I'm here, it should be different.

Q. Right now Henin and Mauresmo are battling it out in the Eastbourne final. Are you happier that you're here, not playing in something competitive like that?
SERENA WILLIAMS: Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I just -- I've never really played a warm-up tournament before Wimbledon. This is I think the best route for me. I wouldn't want to play and have a day off, then play again. It rains a lot in Eastbourne. No, I'm glad they're duking it out over there.

Q. How do you fill your time when it rains here?
SERENA WILLIAMS: I have a lot of books. I read a lot.

Q. Will playing in the doubles help the singles as well? You could go all the way in both. Any danger of it being too heavy a load for you? Is that how you want it?
SERENA WILLIAMS: No, this is fine. I mean, it wasn't heavy when I did it. It won't be any different. It's like practicing, competing at the same time, getting extra practice. Maybe my volleys will be like unbelievable soon.

Q. At the French Open you might have heard about Federer, Djokovic, Nadal doing some karaoke to promote the tournament. If Wimbledon asked you to do the same thing, one would you do it and two, what would your tune be?
SERENA WILLIAMS: I don't sing.

Q. Not at all?
SERENA WILLIAMS: No, not at all. I don't sing. It wouldn't be fun. It would start raining.

Q. If you're well on form and fit, the best player here, but if Venus is the best grass court player, if you played in the final, who would win that?
SERENA WILLIAMS: Well, I said if I'm playing well it's hard for anyone to beat me, so... Hopefully that means I would win, yeah.

pigam
Jun 23rd, 2007, 08:43 PM
Your English doesn't have to be great to know what your group is like. I can only quote what Justine fans write. It is the regular negative and at times offensive remarks. The same old stuff. It is too bad that is their norm :shrug:

oh ok, thanks for letting me know about "my group" :weirdo:
you're right, no Justine fan ever calls out another Justine fan. nope, not in our group.

mykarma
Jun 23rd, 2007, 08:44 PM
well, this is how I see it: some Serena fans are obsessed with 'Serena kicking Justine's ass at Wimbledon'. Why is that ? is it only because of FO ? For me, Wimbledon is much more than that, there are 126 other players in the draw. Are we going to hear and read every day same old stories and same old bragging from Serena's fans and Serena herself? I think we will, so next 2 weeks I'm staying out of this place.
:wavey::wavey::bigwave::aparty::aparty::aparty:

SJW
Jun 23rd, 2007, 08:46 PM
This has absolutely nothing to do with Justine, it's about Serena's cocky atitude. Of course Juju doesn't need Serena or her fans to acknowledge her acomplishments, she's a great champion and even they know it, although they may not always admit it.

Of course Henin's accomplishments are noted. Every single Williams fan knows what she is capable of, and I'm sure you've read what kind words Serena has had to say about her, even after what happened. That doesn't change the fact that Serena has won Wimbledon 2 times. Of course she feels confident, grass is her surface.
She could very well lose to Henin on any surface, she is not invincible, but this suits her game so much that it's not rocket science that she is going to have extreme belief going into the Championships, moreso than any other tournament I believe.

And it obviously has something to do with Justine, because her fans are the only ones coming in here bitching about what she had to say.

MrSerenaWilliams
Jun 23rd, 2007, 08:49 PM
Good article :yeah: Great quotes, good to see her getting pumped for another glorious fortnight :yeah:

maja.amelie
Jun 23rd, 2007, 08:50 PM
Great Serena :worship: Please win that Wimby because we want to show Justine fans that you are the best.Cant stand Justine anymore :fiery:

StarDuvallGrant
Jun 23rd, 2007, 08:50 PM
oh ok, thanks for letting me know about "my group" :weirdo:
you're right, no Justine fan ever calls out another Justine fan. nope, not in our group.

:lol:

You're welcome :hug:

mykarma
Jun 23rd, 2007, 08:51 PM
How very fucking offensive.

Listen "oh great Justine fan", Serena doesn't owe Justine anything. Hell, she showed what grace and class she had by her reaction after Wimbledon 2003 and in their subsequent matches. She has extreme confidence in her abilities, and why shouldn't she? She is Serena Williams. I won't bore you with a list of her achievements, but if she thinks she's the best, then she's allowed to say it. If Seles was playing, or someone who had achieved more at the highest level of singles activity, then yes, it would be in poor taste. But in terms of singles slams, she is peerless. She has been there and done it all at all four majors.

This same attitude is what brought her all this success, and that is what is irritating you and your little "classy" buddies. She could very well lose in her first round match, but she believes in herself, her shots and her chances and that is what makes her a champion. You don't have to agree with what she says, and I wouldn't expect you to since very few of you lot can bring yourselves to appreciate everything she's done on the court, but she, like Federer, has earnt the right to talk shit because they have backed it up in their careers.

Now, if you could possibly refrain from your usual biased, irrational and disrespectful comments about Serena, her fans, and their class and background, you would see that you're guilty of everything Serena has done wrong in your eyes, and more. The thing is, she has the class and grace not to talk about her rival or her rivals fans how you (and some of your other little friends) have talked about her in this thread. She doesn't bitch about how someone and her sister is bad for tennis, or their supposed arrogance, or get her coach to wade in with his big mouth or other petty attributes that certain other players have been guilty of in the past. When asked directly about Henin she only has positive things to say, and that's what makes her and off-court champion.
You must spread reps around...:worship::worship::worship:

:inlove:
Jun 23rd, 2007, 08:51 PM
Q. The Americans had a bad tournament last year. What do you think on behalf of the Americans this year?
SERENA WILLIAMS: Well, I wasn't here, so...

Q. I know, but...
SERENA WILLIAMS: That's the answer. That's why. So now that I'm here, it should be different.

:bowdown: :hearts: :drool:

treufreund
Jun 23rd, 2007, 08:56 PM
It's sickening to hear Serena saying such things about herself. LISTEN HERE, WOMAN!!!! IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW GOOD YOU ARE, YOU MAY BE THE FREAKING BEST PLAYER IN THE UNIVERSE AND WIN EVERY MATCH EASILY (WHICH IS CLEARLY NOT THE CASE), IT WOULD STILL BE A SIGN OF POOR UPBRINGING AND DISGUSTING ARROGANCE TO SAY SUCH A THING. LEARN SOME MODESTY FOR A CHANGE, IT DOESN'T HURT AND WOULD MAKE YOU AN OFF-COURT CHAMPION AS WELL. OH, AND TO ALL YOUR FANS FROM THE HOODS, WHO PROBABLY THINK IT'S VERY HIP TO TALK THAT WAY: JUST REFRAIN FROM YOUR USUAL BIASED AND IRRATIONAL COMMENTS, ALTHOUGH I SINCERELY DOUBT ANY OF YOU CAN DO THAT.
There, someone had to say it!

Wow. Could not have put it better myself. :worship:

hablo
Jun 23rd, 2007, 09:01 PM
Thanks for posting that interview, Vaidisova.
Very long but a nice read.

treufreund
Jun 23rd, 2007, 09:02 PM
Q. The Americans had a bad tournament last year. What do you think on behalf of the Americans this year?
SERENA WILLIAMS: Well, I wasn't here, so...

Q. I know, but...
SERENA WILLIAMS: That's the answer. That's why. So now that I'm here, it should be different.

:bowdown: :hearts: :drool:

well your sister was there and you insist that she is so great. really a truly incredibly tasteless horrid comment. :mad:

mdterp01
Jun 23rd, 2007, 09:04 PM
Thanks for posting the ENTIRE interview. It was actually a very good interview. Serena is always great when it comes to the press and giving interviews. The detractors will have their usual negative comments but...Serena fans...really...who gives a shyt what they have to say? :lol:

MrSerenaWilliams
Jun 23rd, 2007, 09:05 PM
well your sister was there and you insist that she is so great. really a truly incredibly tasteless horrid comment. :mad:

....although there was the matter of the injured wrist that caused her to take a 3 month break from the tour and need surgery, then take another 4 month break :rolleyes:

She said when they're healthy clown :o

rottweily
Jun 23rd, 2007, 09:06 PM
well your sister was there and you insist that she is so great. really a truly incredibly tasteless horrid comment. :mad:

You can't blame her for forgetting that :p

StarDuvallGrant
Jun 23rd, 2007, 09:12 PM
well your sister was there and you insist that she is so great. really a truly incredibly tasteless horrid comment. :mad:

You find that comment horrid but you applauded a Justine fan calling Serena fans from the hood for instance. The poor upbringing, condescending attitude and irrational comments belong to Justine fans. I continue to see what pigam is so proud of.

dwynn10
Jun 23rd, 2007, 09:19 PM
And it obviously has something to do with Justine, because her fans are the only ones coming in here bitching about what she had to say.

Oh, stop the beligerent generalizing. Here's one tennis fan who's neither a fan of the classless Henin nor the trash-talking Serena. I'm allowed to root for someone else, like Jankovic, on this board, right?

hacberto
Jun 23rd, 2007, 09:20 PM
I'm sure one of my babies will win Wimbledon

Come on Venus and Serena!!

:bounce:

mdterp01
Jun 23rd, 2007, 09:20 PM
You find that comment horrid but you applauded a Justine fan calling Serena fans from the hood for instance. The poor upbringing, condescending attitude and irrational comments belong to Justine fans. I continue to see what pigam is so proud of.

:worship: Well certainly hypocrisy is expected from that lot.

:inlove:
Jun 23rd, 2007, 09:22 PM
Wow. Could not have put it better myself. :worship:

I don't doubt that. :help: :o

Bijoux0021
Jun 23rd, 2007, 09:25 PM
Thanks for posting the ENTIRE interview. It was actually a very good interview. Serena is always great when it comes to the press and giving interviews. The detractors will have their usual negative comments but...Serena fans...really...who gives a shyt what they have to say? :lol:
DITTO!

winone23
Jun 23rd, 2007, 09:27 PM
Why are you haters so concerned with Serena??? Why would you even bother to read an interview Serena did if she always says "arrogant" things??? You haters are losers. Worry about your own words and stop getting your blood pressure up because Serena is confident and ready to win. I can smell the fear seeping from the pores of you haters. I suggest you haters get some Febreze to cover up the odor

winone23
Jun 23rd, 2007, 09:31 PM
Because some of these idiots can't separate Venus from Serena and do just what you said....lump them in together. I was thinking the same thing. Venus didn't even say a thing and here come the morons talkin about Venus needs to shut up. :rolleyes: Sit and spin!!

:lol: :lol: :worship: :worship:

Bijoux0021
Jun 23rd, 2007, 09:32 PM
Why are you haters so concerned with Serena??? Why would you even bother to read an interview Serena did if she always says "arrogant" things??? You haters are losers. Worry about your own words and stop getting your blood pressure up because Serena is confident and ready to win. I can smell the fear seeping from the pores of you haters. I suggest you haters get some Febreze to cover up the odor
:haha:

So true!

faste5683
Jun 23rd, 2007, 09:32 PM
Oh, stop the beligerent generalizing. Here's one tennis fan who's neither a fan of the classless Henin nor the trash-talking Serena. I'm allowed to root for someone else, like Jankovic, on this board, right?

Because you are new here, I need to explain something: You, as a tennis fan here at WTA World have certain obligations which MUST be followed; the main being that you either hate or love Justine or Serena and let that be known as loudly or crudely as possible. You see, young newbie, this is what we do here, 24/7, 365 days a year (including the Christmas holidays).

This was a pretty good 6th post. But please, in the future, please try to slag Serena's or Juju's ass.

:wavey:

Donatello
Jun 23rd, 2007, 09:40 PM
Give Serena a break for not having fresh material each and every time there is an interview or press release.

And PS, Serena is not mental, there is no doubt that she purposely repeats this tough talk over and over, for herself to believe she can always play even better and for the opponents to believe the same.

Nabalonge
Jun 23rd, 2007, 09:41 PM
Back to this being about Serena. I am happy to read and hear she's ready to fight. I think that is all we can ask of her. It is good Serena is confident and I believe that Wimbledon is the surface and event she can put that confidence on display.

rottweily
Jun 23rd, 2007, 09:41 PM
You find that comment horrid but you applauded a Justine fan calling Serena fans from the hood for instance. The poor upbringing, condescending attitude and irrational comments belong to Justine fans. I continue to see what pigam is so proud of.

You ignored the remark here.
Serena insulted all American players at Wimbledon last year, including her own sister, with that remark.

Donatello
Jun 23rd, 2007, 09:44 PM
Because you are new here, I need to explain something: You, as a tennis fan here at WTA World have certain obligations which MUST be followed; the main being that you either hate or love Justine or Serena and let that be known as loudly or crudely as possible. You see, young newbie, this is what we do here, 24/7, 365 days a year (including the Christmas holidays).

This was a pretty good 6th post. But please, in the future, please try to slag Serena's or Juju's ass.

:wavey:

lol :worship: I 've just recently figured out how it really works over here.

OrdinaryfoolisNJ
Jun 23rd, 2007, 09:45 PM
I'm allowed to root for someone else, like Jankovic, on this board, right?

I'll join you. I'm a huge fan of Serena's, but I want Jelena to get her break through GS. She's working so hard this year, I'm cheering for both her and Serena and don't care which one wins this thing so long as its one of them. :smoke: :smoke:

Thkmra
Jun 23rd, 2007, 09:47 PM
if she's the best, why dont' show it on the court ?

this is serena's big return year and she has 2 titles while justine has 5 (on every surface) and she didn't even play in australia.

serena won in miami, yes, but how ? was totally outplayed then the drama starts: a little bit of screaming, bitching, racket smashing and voila: great victory. but it can happen only once like that, she will have to play a good match from start to finish and even then it will be very close. she's too inconsistant and it's almost impossible to see her winning 7 matches in wimbledon without some big drama

:lol: :lol: Bitching:lol: :lol:

dwynn10
Jun 23rd, 2007, 09:50 PM
Because you are new here, I need to explain something: You, as a tennis fan here at WTA World have certain obligations which MUST be followed; the main being that you either hate or love Justine or Serena and let that be known as loudly or crudely as possible. You see, young newbie, this is what we do here, 24/7, 365 days a year (including the Christmas holidays).

This was a pretty good 6th post. But please, in the future, please try to slag Serena's or Juju's ass.

:wavey:


LOL. Thanks for the pointers! Boy, if that's all people do around here, the scope and range of topics discussed would seem rather limited. I have no problem with Serena being the hot button du jour because of her recent interview, and I must admit it's fun to get into a flame war over a certain topic - up to a certain point. Beyond that though, there are other players who might merit a few threads of their own every now and then. Or is the aura radiated by Henin and Serena so awesome and bright that no one else matters? (To tell the truth, as long as no one talks about the oh-so-sexy blonde banshee, it's more than OK with me - there, did I just alienate every fan on this forum now? :D )

rottweily
Jun 23rd, 2007, 09:53 PM
LOL. Thanks for the pointers! Boy, if that's all people do around here, the scope and range of topics discussed would seem rather limited. I have no problem with Serena being the hot button du jour because of her recent interview, and I must admit it's fun to get into a flame war over a certain topic - up to a certain point. Beyond that though, there are other players who might merit a few threads of their own every now and then. Or is the aura radiated by Henin and Serena so awesome and bright that no one else matters? (To tell the truth, as long as no one talks about the oh-so-sexy blonde banshee, it's more than OK with me - there, did I just alienate every fan on this forum now? :D )

Check out the post counts in the respective fan forums and you will know enough:
Serena 11,207
Justine 52,354
Obviously there are more Serena fans on this board so simple statistics tell us that GM is dominated by Serena fans.
Most other fans keep their delusional thoughts for the fan forums...

winone23
Jun 23rd, 2007, 09:58 PM
Check out the post counts in the respective fan forums and you will know enough...

Fan forums are one thing, we are talking about GM. Serena getting all the attention on GM.

rottweily
Jun 23rd, 2007, 10:06 PM
Fan forums are one thing, we are talking about GM. Serena getting all the attention on GM.

Check my edited post ;)

Bijoux0021
Jun 23rd, 2007, 10:10 PM
You ignored the remark here.
Serena insulted all American players at Wimbledon last year, including her own sister, with that remark.
All of a sudden you care about American players being insulted? Serena's words have so much power, don't they?. I can see why her haters are obsessed with her every word. I love it!

rottweily
Jun 23rd, 2007, 10:11 PM
All of a sudden you care about American players being insulted? Serena's words have so much power, don't they?. I can see why her haters are obsessed with her every word. I love it!

Why all of a sudden?
So you think it's ok that she insulted all American players at Wimbledon last year?

winone23
Jun 23rd, 2007, 10:13 PM
Check my edited post ;)

Serena's popularity transcends her fan forum.

winone23
Jun 23rd, 2007, 10:13 PM
All of a sudden you care about American players being insulted? Serena's words have so much power, don't they?. I can see why her haters are obsessed with her every word. I love it!

Got em' :lol: :lol: :lol:

rottweily
Jun 23rd, 2007, 10:13 PM
Serena's popularity transcends her fan forum.

You obviously don't get it do you :devil:

winone23
Jun 23rd, 2007, 10:17 PM
You obviously don't get it do you :devil:

I get. I'm just toying with you now since you seem to be lingering in a GM thread about Serena, instead to chatting it up with Justine fans in her forum.

rottweily
Jun 23rd, 2007, 10:22 PM
I get. I'm just toying with you now since you seem to be lingering in a GM thread about Serena, instead to chatting it up with Justine fans in her forum.

You should be the one chatting this up in Serena's forum, see no point in chatting this up in Justine's forum.
If the original poster didn't post it at GM, I wouldn't even know about these blatant insulting remarks.

supergrunt
Jun 23rd, 2007, 10:28 PM
I love how Serena makes these comments that piss off deluded Justine fans! :haha:

winone23
Jun 23rd, 2007, 10:32 PM
You should be the one chatting this up in Serena's forum, see no point in chatting this up in Justine's forum.
If the original poster didn't post it at GM, I wouldn't even know about these blatant insulting remarks.

Why go to Serena's forum when all her fans are on GM??? Plus Justine fans like you are so much fun. :hug:

supergrunt
Jun 23rd, 2007, 10:33 PM
There are so many Serena fans to combat all of the Serena hater-vermin that infest the GM. :wazzup:

rottweily
Jun 23rd, 2007, 10:34 PM
I love how Serena makes these comments that piss off deluded Justine fans! :haha:

Ah the ubertroll has arrived.

mdterp01
Jun 23rd, 2007, 10:34 PM
I love how Serena makes these comments that piss off deluded Justine fans! :haha:

I know right. :lol: A case study truly needs to be done on some of these people as to why they are so ridiculously engaged in the words of someone who plays a sport. :rolleyes: I don't get it. Surely, there are much more important things to get your panties in a bunch about. PRIORITIES?!!!!

mdterp01
Jun 23rd, 2007, 10:35 PM
Why go to Serena's forum when all her fans are on GM??? Plus Justine fans like you are so much fun. :hug:

And such easy targets! :lol: BULLSEYE!!!!!! :lol:

mdterp01
Jun 23rd, 2007, 10:37 PM
There are so many Serena fans to combat all of the Serena hater-vermin that infest the GM. :wazzup:

:worship:

tard~tard
Jun 23rd, 2007, 11:08 PM
This may sound off topic, but it isn't.
In regard to what Serena says in her interviews, or whomever
you will meet in real life or on the internet.

If you really want to know a person, all it takes is patience
and observation. Look for patterns in behaviour, take your time
and think about what you saw, heared, felt. Analize.
The patterns you will discover will reveal everything you want
to know about someone's personality and coping styles.

Just a tip. ;)

cnelson575
Jun 23rd, 2007, 11:37 PM
Her excuses and cocky attitude and constant statments of what will never
happen again is getting tired. There are other players that can say that
if there playing there best its very hard to beat them as well. Serena get
over yourself and put your game were your mouth is, that is all that matters
in the end.

supergrunt
Jun 23rd, 2007, 11:51 PM
Her excuses and cocky attitude and constant statments of what will never
happen again is getting tired. There are other players that can say that
if there playing there best its very hard to beat them as well. Serena get
over yourself and put your game were your mouth is, that is all that matters
in the end.

Serena has certainly put her money where her mouth is.

supergrunt
Jun 23rd, 2007, 11:52 PM
and there is a difference between arrogance and confidence.

rottweily
Jun 23rd, 2007, 11:55 PM
and there is a difference between arrogance and confidence.

Indeed she tries to build up a facade of confidence with being arrogant. If it works is still to be seen, it didn't at RG.

supergrunt
Jun 23rd, 2007, 11:59 PM
Indeed she tries to build up a facade of confidence with being arrogant. If it works is still to be seen, it didn't at RG.

:confused:

Serena's been genuinely confident from day one, and it has worked pretty well so far in my eyes.

supergrunt
Jun 24th, 2007, 12:00 AM
ATLEAST BETTER THAN JUSTINE'S APPROACH!!! :p :crazy: :wazzup: :dance: :rolls:

rottweily
Jun 24th, 2007, 12:03 AM
ATLEAST BETTER THAN JUSTINE'S APPROACH!!! :p :crazy: :wazzup: :dance: :rolls:

Offical retard and troll having a brain malfunction ?

supergrunt
Jun 24th, 2007, 12:07 AM
Offical retard and troll having a brain malfunction ?

8>6. My brain's workin' fine hun!!!! :p :lol: :bounce: :D :wavey: :haha: :woohoo: :banana: :aparty: :nerner:

No Name Face
Jun 24th, 2007, 12:11 AM
serena i want you to win this, so please do so.

rottweily
Jun 24th, 2007, 12:15 AM
8>6. My brain's workin' fine hun!!!! :p :lol: :bounce: :D :wavey: :haha: :woohoo: :banana: :aparty: :nerner:
You just edited it in time to cover up you can't count :lol:

paichan
Jun 24th, 2007, 12:15 AM
Yeah Serena is making arrogant statements what else is new? she's doing her. Let the head games begin

mdterp01
Jun 24th, 2007, 12:47 AM
Indeed she tries to build up a facade of confidence with being arrogant. If it works is still to be seen, it didn't at RG.

Good lord...how long are people going to refer to Roland Garros? Is that the only argument you can use. "Well it didn't work at Roland Garros"..."Well it didn't work at Roland Garros".

mdterp01
Jun 24th, 2007, 12:49 AM
8>6. My brain's workin' fine hun!!!! :p :lol: :bounce: :D :wavey: :haha: :woohoo: :banana: :aparty: :nerner:

And thats just going on singles. 15>6 I say. Its always nice to slap the trolls back to reality who are claiming that Justine is close to overtaking Serena in terms of slams. Dream on!

serenafann
Jun 24th, 2007, 01:04 AM
YEA,Serena I like your fiesty contemplative atittude.I want you to always be your true self in every match and don't let the crowd or the surface undermine that.

Keadz
Jun 24th, 2007, 01:09 AM
I read an article today in an Australian newspaper that Venus and herself are using gold encrusted racquet's from Wilson. Serena's frame will be black while Venus' will be white, and they will both have the gold dusted shoes that Maria has aswell. Also that Alicia Molik is going to win!!!

serenafann
Jun 24th, 2007, 01:17 AM
Hmmm lets see...#8 in the world going into Wimbledon or #81 heading into Australia. I think Serena has already proven she can climb mountains.

That's So damn true.:)

DOUBLEFIST
Jun 24th, 2007, 01:27 AM
What's up?, I only told the obvious:

"Same old, same old.
Good to see that she still hasn't got a clue [why she lost at RG2007]."

Obviously, the "obvious" is LOST on you!

She lost at RG because she was OUT PLAYED! PERIOD!

Now, we could debate for an eternity as to WHY she was out played, but frankly, I just think it gets down to Justine being better than her on clay.

As to not having a clue, you'd be lucky to have as few clues as Serena, maybe you'd win the Aussie and the Ericson as well! :lol: But somehow, I think those clues would be lost on you too.

Borris
Jun 24th, 2007, 01:32 AM
Same old story,
But in the end, she'll will be not able to cope with Henin's variation again, and she'll accuse herself of "beating herself" ..... again.

trufanjay
Jun 24th, 2007, 01:34 AM
Same old story,
But in the end, she'll will be not able to cope with Henin's variation again, and she'll accuse herself of "beating herself" ..... again.
I wouldn't be so sure of that if I were you.

Borris
Jun 24th, 2007, 01:41 AM
I wouldn't be so sure of that if I were you.

Well, from what I saw in the Eastbourne matches, Henin improved her grasscourt-game alot this year.
If she plays like she did this week, I'll think she'll frustrate Serena a lot.

I just hope Justine doesn't give it away like she did in Miami.

vejh
Jun 24th, 2007, 01:41 AM
I see Serena's feeling good again after that blog she recently wrote.

trufanjay
Jun 24th, 2007, 01:56 AM
Well, from what I saw in the Eastbourne matches, Henin improved her grasscourt-game alot this year.
If she plays like she did this week, I'll think she'll frustrate Serena a lot.

I just hope Justine doesn't give it away like she did in Miami.
Justine is in very good form and could cause problems for Serena. But you don't know what Serena will bring to the table if they play. By that time Serena will have possibly taken out Molik, Stosur and Hantuchova, all very good warmups before playing Justine. Henin is improving and seems confident but Serena is just so much better on grass and Henin's game doesn't bother Serena on grass. Justine's ball will sit up high because she hits with more topspin than needed sometimes, her second serve will be attacked, and she may be more hesitant than usual to come in. On top of Serena's obvious confidence she has so much going for her in this potential quarterfinal match.

vejh
Jun 24th, 2007, 02:04 AM
Isn't it an incorrect assumption to day "Serena's so much better on grass" than Justine? Have you seen Ju on grass?? She's so good on the stuff; from her height, movement, tough 2nd serve, to slices, spectacular return and variations on the bh, volleys..she's pretty darn good herself. I can imagine what Serena might bring to the table, it can't be any better than her best, and I've seen her in full flight on grass, yet I still see Henin as a super force to be reckoned with. I know Henin hasn't won A GS on grass, but her qualities speak so loudly for themselves, even though she still doesn't have that unswayed belief on non-clay courts.

DOUBLEFIST
Jun 24th, 2007, 02:36 AM
I just hope Justine doesn't give it away like she did in Miami.

"I just hope Justine doesn't give it away..." = claiming she "beat herself."

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds. :rolleyes:

DemWilliamsGulls
Jun 24th, 2007, 02:55 AM
Baby sister has come TO PLAY !!! That's what I want to hear...I'm glad she's confident..if you dont have confidence in yourself ...then nobody else will. Serena does not have to fear ANYBODY on this tour..I dont care how much they've improved...I've said it once and I'll say it again..NOBODY can beat a Williams Sister when they are on their game...I hope Venus has the same approach as Serena coming into wimbledon......I cant WAIT till monday!

mykarma
Jun 24th, 2007, 03:22 AM
"I just hope Justine doesn't give it away..." = claiming she "beat herself."

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds. :rolleyes:
:worship::worship::worship:

TSequoia01
Jun 24th, 2007, 04:13 AM
Serena at her best would be serving powerful first serves in all 4 corners of the box. Getting service aces and short replys that are simply put away. She would dominate second serves intimidating the server. Her groundstrokes would be crushing off of both sides but especially the forehand. Remember, Rena is not only a power player her greatest strength is her preciision on those power strokes. They go deep close to the lines and in the corners. In addition she would be mixing it up a bit with angles, drops, and lobs when necessary. No need for patience here, 2,3 and winner. Yes let the princess of power reign.

10s4life
Jun 24th, 2007, 04:23 AM
Same old, same old.
Good to see that she still hasn't got a clue.

:worship: :worship:

Veronique
Jun 24th, 2007, 04:29 AM
This was supposed to be a thread about the Williams and their readiness at Wimbledon. How did it turn into a Serena vs Justine thread? Somebody should go and start a thread about Justine and her readiness for Wimbledon.

Serena hasn't been healthy for Wimbledon since 2004, so I'm so glad to hear she's ready to go this time around. Until proven otherwise, I don't see how she can lose to anybody here including Venus if she's playing the way she can. Bring it on baby, bring it on!

10s4life
Jun 24th, 2007, 04:57 AM
This was supposed to be a thread about the Williams and their readiness at Wimbledon. How did it turn into a Serena vs Justine thread? Somebody should go and start a thread about Justine and her readiness for Wimbledon.

Serena hasn't been healthy for Wimbledon since 2004, so I'm so glad to hear she's ready to go this time around. Until proven otherwise, I don't see how she can lose to anybody here including Venus if she's playing the way she can. Bring it on baby, bring it on!


i got a feeling after the tournaments over it'll turn out serena wasn't healthy for this tournament either.

TSequoia01
Jun 24th, 2007, 05:05 AM
i got a feeling after the tournaments over it'll turn out serena wasn't healthy for this tournament either.


see a few are upset because Serena talked a little smack. :p A stressed out Serena usually keeps very quiet and says all the pc things. A smack talking Serena is dangerous. Hey ladies, be very affraid. Her practices must be going very well.

StarDuvallGrant
Jun 24th, 2007, 05:11 AM
"I just hope Justine doesn't give it away..." = claiming she "beat herself."

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds. :rolleyes:

Basically.

rgarros
Jun 24th, 2007, 05:38 AM
hey, earth to serena. you can beat up on yourself all you want and be as graceless a loser as possible, but the fact remains: justine beat your sorry ass! and guess what? it'll happen again next week. hopefully, you'll have learned to congratulate your opponent by then instead of blaming it all on your poor self. somehow, though, i doubt it.:p

W!MBLEDON
Jun 24th, 2007, 05:41 AM
Serena Williams has come to terms with her French Open nightmare by vowing she will never again exit a tournament "without a fight".

I'm getting really sick of this. She's saying that she lost because she went 'without a fight'? Yeah. I'm sure she did. :rolleyes: She thinks that she can beat anyone if she tries. She has a really fat attitude. I just wish she'd shut up and acknowledge the fact that her OPPONENT BEAT HER! Jeez!

rgarros
Jun 24th, 2007, 05:46 AM
EXACTLY! of course, losing gracefully is not in the sisters' vocabulary...:lol:

darrinbaker00
Jun 24th, 2007, 06:01 AM
EXACTLY! of course, losing gracefully is not in the sisters' vocabulary...:lol:
You show me someone who's always gracious in defeat, and I'll show you someone who's comfortable with losing. May Venus and Serena always, AND THE ROCK MEANS ALWAYS, be arrogant. ;)

Diesel
Jun 24th, 2007, 06:09 AM
EXACTLY! of course, losing gracefully is not in the sisters' vocabulary...:lol:

Yep. You've got it. Serena should take grace and class lessons from you :haha:

10s4life
Jun 24th, 2007, 06:18 AM
see a few are upset because Serena talked a little smack. :p A stressed out Serena usually keeps very quiet and says all the pc things. A smack talking Serena is dangerous. Hey ladies, be very affraid. Her practices must be going very well.

serena seems to talk smack every match. i guess apparently its her style. i still think she would be better showing "cool confidence" rather than "street-fight cocky." to me this sort of talk is disrespectful toward her opponents, and shows a certain insecurity, kind of a bully's attitude.

lets the games began.

friendsita
Jun 24th, 2007, 06:21 AM
That was the real Ree!

10s4life
Jun 24th, 2007, 06:24 AM
That was the real Ree!

even a broken clock is right twice a day.

veesbest
Jun 24th, 2007, 06:57 AM
shes a little to confident about her sister i think venus has maria in the 16s or quaters

Denise4925
Jun 24th, 2007, 08:27 AM
:lol: at Rottweily and Reuchlin! :haha:

Talk about obsessed with Serena! :ha: (I think they're secretely Serena fans in a weird way). Rosslyn your comments aren't even worth sincere consideration.

Pigam, nice comments. Sensible. I may not even remotely be a Juju fan, but I CERTAINLY respect her game.

I'm glad to see Serena has TRUE perspective on RG. She identified the fact that she did play weirdly (who could look at all those wacky slices and not say the same thing :lol: ) and that she did not FIGHT. For me it wasn't so much about the loss, after all, Justine was the favorite. She's the Queen of the clay and she proved it. It was HOW Serena lost, ie, without FIGHT! That was truly the WEIRDEST thing ever coming from Serena who has made her legend out of fighting.

It sounds like Serena is ready to fight again. As for the comments about Venus, I'll believe it when I see it (sorry). :shrug:

:worship: :worship: :worship: :D

Denise4925
Jun 24th, 2007, 08:28 AM
I agree, but Justine is changed...to the point that it even doesn't matter what Serena or any other player does on the court. If they both play their best games, Justine wins, and it's even not that important match, she will have still a lot to do to win SF and finals

:haha: :haha: :haha:

Denise4925
Jun 24th, 2007, 08:29 AM
Looks like the sisters are back in trash-talking mode, which has always been their natural tendency. Any earlier attempts at decorum and respect toward other players seem to have been just an act. Let's see if they can back up their loud mouth with loud action this time, unlike at the French Open.

Was this an interview with Venus AND Serena or just Serena? :scratch:

Denise4925
Jun 24th, 2007, 08:32 AM
they can trash talk all they want, fact is Venus is playing like crap and not even the one tournament she could win all season long even if she is playing crap will ever change the fact that shes NO LONGER the player she once was, and CERTAINLY not in any position to talk smack about others...

Serena can talk the big talk, at least she can back it up....Venus has been a disaster however and should keep her trap shut.:help:

You are one confused person. You said the same thing about Serena in another thread. :help:

Denise4925
Jun 24th, 2007, 08:35 AM
It's sickening to hear Serena saying such things about herself. LISTEN HERE, WOMAN!!!! IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW GOOD YOU ARE, YOU MAY BE THE FREAKING BEST PLAYER IN THE UNIVERSE AND WIN EVERY MATCH EASILY (WHICH IS CLEARLY NOT THE CASE), IT WOULD STILL BE A SIGN OF POOR UPBRINGING AND DISGUSTING ARROGANCE TO SAY SUCH A THING. LEARN SOME MODESTY FOR A CHANGE, IT DOESN'T HURT AND WOULD MAKE YOU AN OFF-COURT CHAMPION AS WELL. OH, AND TO ALL YOUR FANS FROM THE HOODS, WHO PROBABLY THINK IT'S VERY HIP TO TALK THAT WAY: JUST REFRAIN FROM YOUR USUAL BIASED AND IRRATIONAL COMMENTS, ALTHOUGH I SINCERELY DOUBT ANY OF YOU CAN DO THAT.
There, someone had to say it!

Talk about poor upbringing. :unsure:

Denise4925
Jun 24th, 2007, 08:37 AM
What's up?, I only told the obvious:

"Same old, same old.
Good to see that she still hasn't got a clue [why she lost at RG2007]."

OMG, why would she? She's only won 8 grand slams and 28 titles and one of them being RG, beating Justine many times on the way. So, she of all people wouldn't have a clue as to why she lost RG 2007. Since you do, why don't you write an open letter to her. :wavey:

Denise4925
Jun 24th, 2007, 08:48 AM
How very fucking offensive.

Listen "oh great Justine fan", Serena doesn't owe Justine anything. Hell, she showed what grace and class she had by her reaction after Wimbledon 2003 and in their subsequent matches. She has extreme confidence in her abilities, and why shouldn't she? She is Serena Williams. I won't bore you with a list of her achievements, but if she thinks she's the best, then she's allowed to say it. If Seles was playing, or someone who had achieved more at the highest level of singles activity, then yes, it would be in poor taste. But in terms of singles slams, she is peerless. She has been there and done it all at all four majors.

This same attitude is what brought her all this success, and that is what is irritating you and your little "classy" buddies. She could very well lose in her first round match, but she believes in herself, her shots and her chances and that is what makes her a champion. You don't have to agree with what she says, and I wouldn't expect you to since very few of you lot can bring yourselves to appreciate everything she's done on the court, but she, like Federer, has earnt the right to talk shit because they have backed it up in their careers.

Now, if you could possibly refrain from your usual biased, irrational and disrespectful comments about Serena, her fans, and their class and background, you would see that you're guilty of everything Serena has done wrong in your eyes, and more. The thing is, she has the class and grace not to talk about her rival or her rivals fans how you (and some of your other little friends) have talked about her in this thread. She doesn't bitch about how someone and her sister is bad for tennis, or their supposed arrogance, or get her coach to wade in with his big mouth or other petty attributes that certain other players have been guilty of in the past. When asked directly about Henin she only has positive things to say, and that's what makes her and off-court champion.


:worship: :worship: :worship: Not only was it offensive, but classless and racially insensitive. :fiery:

Denise4925
Jun 24th, 2007, 08:54 AM
well your sister was there and you insist that she is so great. really a truly incredibly tasteless horrid comment. :mad:

And, this comment isn't? :confused:

AND TO ALL YOUR FANS FROM THE HOODS, WHO PROBABLY THINK IT'S VERY HIP TO TALK THAT WAY:

You bowed down to it. Hypocrite :rolleyes:

Denise4925
Jun 24th, 2007, 08:59 AM
Check out the post counts in the respective fan forums and you will know enough:
Serena 11,207
Justine 52,354
Obviously there are more Serena fans on this board so simple statistics tell us that GM is dominated by Serena fans.
Most other fans keep their delusional thoughts for the fan forums...

I wish you'd keep yours there. :rolleyes:

Denise4925
Jun 24th, 2007, 09:01 AM
Why all of a sudden?
So you think it's ok that she insulted all American players at Wimbledon last year?

Do you think it's okay to insinuate that an entire fan base is black, just because the two players are black and say that we are all from the "hoods", have terrible upbringings, and are classless?

Denise4925
Jun 24th, 2007, 09:04 AM
This may sound off topic, but it isn't.
In regard to what Serena says in her interviews, or whomever
you will meet in real life or on the internet.

If you really want to know a person, all it takes is patience
and observation. Look for patterns in behaviour, take your time
and think about what you saw, heared, felt. Analize.
The patterns you will discover will reveal everything you want
to know about someone's personality and coping styles.

Just a tip. ;)

Yeah, we've done that with Justine. :wavey:

Denise4925
Jun 24th, 2007, 09:05 AM
Indeed she tries to build up a facade of confidence with being arrogant. If it works is still to be seen, it didn't at RG.

But, it worked in Miami :D

Denise4925
Jun 24th, 2007, 09:09 AM
Isn't it an incorrect assumption to day "Serena's so much better on grass" than Justine? Have you seen Ju on grass?? She's so good on the stuff; from her height, movement, tough 2nd serve, to slices, spectacular return and variations on the bh, volleys..she's pretty darn good herself. I can imagine what Serena might bring to the table, it can't be any better than her best, and I've seen her in full flight on grass, yet I still see Henin as a super force to be reckoned with. I know Henin hasn't won A GS on grass, but her qualities speak so loudly for themselves, even though she still doesn't have that unswayed belief on non-clay courts.

Wow, really? Because I saw a lot of ugly UFE's by her today and I really wasn't impressed with her grasscourt game.

Denise4925
Jun 24th, 2007, 09:10 AM
Well, from what I saw in the Eastbourne matches, Henin improved her grasscourt-game alot this year.
If she plays like she did this week, I'll think she'll frustrate Serena a lot.

I just hope Justine doesn't give it away like she did in Miami.

Wow, hypocrisy at it's best.

Sammy 4 eva!!!
Jun 24th, 2007, 09:12 AM
Sam will take her down lol!

faste5683
Jun 24th, 2007, 10:37 AM
Wow, really? Because I saw a lot of ugly UFE's by her today and I really wasn't impressed with her grasscourt game.

Lol. If you're not impressed with Henin's grass court game, you're not impressed by anybody's grass court game.

As for unforced errors, did you noticed that they played in a mini-hurricane today?

Lol.

bandabou
Jun 24th, 2007, 11:32 AM
i got a feeling after the tournaments over it'll turn out serena wasn't healthy for this tournament either.

Maybe...but hey, she already got two of dem dishes. Soooo....I know certain players are still dying for just ONE. It's cool though. We'll see.

mykarma
Jun 24th, 2007, 01:46 PM
Talk about poor upbringing. :unsure:
:lol::lol::lol:

winone23
Jun 24th, 2007, 01:48 PM
Justine fans :help: :help: :tape: :tape:

mykarma
Jun 24th, 2007, 01:54 PM
Yeah, we've done that with Justine. :wavey:
:tape::lol:

Denise4925
Jun 25th, 2007, 12:28 AM
Lol. If you're not impressed with Henin's grass court game, you're not impressed by anybody's grass court game.

As for unforced errors, did you noticed that they played in a mini-hurricane today?

Lol.

That's not true, because I am impressed with the best grass courters' games, i.e. Venus, Serena and Maria. And, no I'm not impressed with her grass court game, because it's still not on par, in my opinion, with Serena, Venus and Maria's level on grass at their best. I hope for her sake, that is not the best she has to offer on grass.

No, I didn't notice a mini-hurricane during the match.

Apoleb
Jun 25th, 2007, 12:39 AM
The people that think Serena is "arrogant" are justified in thinking this way, and so are the people who like her for being (what they call) confident. Everyone likes a certain personality.

Personally, I have 2 theories on why Serena likes to talk big:

1) To put psychological pressure on her opponents.
2) If it's not 1, then I think she's immature or she may have some insecurity issues. Everyone knows she's extremely hard to beat when on form, so I don't see the point of repeating it 100000 times, and it's definitely not hard to give your opponents credit.

franklinbouvier
Jun 25th, 2007, 12:45 AM
That's not true, because I am impressed with the best grass courters' games, i.e. Venus, Serena and Maria. And, no I'm not impressed with her grass court game, because it's still not on par, in my opinion, with Serena, Venus and Maria's level on grass at their best. I hope for her sake, that is not the best she has to offer on grass.

No, I didn't notice a mini-hurricane during the match.
How can you be so blind?
If Justine didn't have a good to great grass court game she wouldn't have won Eastbourne twice and reached the Wimbledon final twice.
The Williams sisters may have a better grass court record but give credit where it's due.

Thanx4nothin
Jun 25th, 2007, 12:49 AM
Lol. If you're not impressed with Henin's grass court game, you're not impressed by anybody's grass court game.

As for unforced errors, did you noticed that they played in a mini-hurricane today?

Lol.

That's a peculiarly subjective thing to say for you, Justine doesn't have as good a grass court game as say a Venus, Serena, Sharapova..so just because you are impressed by her on grass doesn't mean everyone will be. I on the other hand was quite impressed.

Thanx4nothin
Jun 25th, 2007, 12:51 AM
That's not true, because I am impressed with the best grass courters' games, i.e. Venus, Serena and Maria. And, no I'm not impressed with her grass court game, because it's still not on par, in my opinion, with Serena, Venus and Maria's level on grass at their best. I hope for her sake, that is not the best she has to offer on grass.

No, I didn't notice a mini-hurricane during the match.

Wind was there, mini hurricane is a drastic over exaggerration. As usual.:confused:

Denise4925
Jun 25th, 2007, 01:04 AM
The people that think Serena is "arrogant" are justified in thinking this way, and so are the people who like her for being (what they call) confident. Everyone likes a certain personality.

Personally, I have 2 theories on why Serena likes to talk big:

1) To put psychological pressure on her opponents.
2) If it's not 1, then I think she's immature or she may have some insecurity issues. Everyone knows she's extremely hard to beat when on form, so I don't see the point of repeating it 100000 times, and it's definitely not hard to give your opponents credit.

How is the answer to that question immature? Why would Serena be insecure with all that she's accomplished?

Couldn't a third theory be that she gets the same questions from interviewers in every tournament and she just has stock answers?? I mean, the same questions 1000000 times, get the same answers 1000000 times.

I'm trying to understand how in answering this question she could possibly give credit to her opponents when the question was about her?

Q. What type of statement do you think you've made with your commitment and your comeback from being at one of the lowest points in your career to having won a Grand Slam this year and to be much more at the top of your game?
SERENA WILLIAMS: Yeah, I think I just made a statement that, uhm, I'm still, I think, the best player out here when I'm playing well. Like I always say, when I'm playing well, it's hard for anyone to beat me.
It's just a fact. I think a lot of people understand that. I don't think anyone that has to play me goes home and shouts with joy. Granted, they play me really hard and that gives them more confidence to have a chance to beat me.

Where in this is she supposed to give credit to her opponents and how is she being arrogant with answering what statement she thinks her comeback has made?

Denise4925
Jun 25th, 2007, 01:16 AM
How can you be so blind?
If Justine didn't have a good to great grass court game she wouldn't have won Eastbourne twice and reached the Wimbledon final twice.
The Williams sisters may have a better grass court record but give credit where it's due.

I never said she didn't have a good grass court game. I said I wasn't impressed, because frankly I've seen better. There's a difference.

She may have won Eastbourne twice and reached the Wimbledon final twice, but she's also lost in the first round twice.

The reason the WS have a better grass court record is because they are the best on the surface when they are at their best. Maybe you should give credit where it's due.

shap_half
Jun 25th, 2007, 03:31 AM
I'm not very familiar with Serena's performances on clay, but she doesn't exactly play well on it. When she's playing against power players on clay, she can manage and do the hitting game, but when she plays against players who knows how to work it on the surface, she usually has a much harder time getting her groove together and winning the match. One example is the Vera Z match in '02, where Vera pushed her to three sets, and had a legitimate shot at winning. So when she plays against one of the best clay courters of all time, did she really expect to come out and play a great clay court game and beat Justine? I don't really know why she feels the need to whine about this loss. She should just accept the fact that clay is not her surface, she lost to someone who is 324903783210743473129843 times better than her on it, and move on. Instead she wants to make it seem like Justine just stood there and fed her crap shots, and Serena threw that match away. As if Serena's really gonna blow Justine off the court if she had just buckled down and focused on her performance.

Justine has 4 RG titles, Serena has 2 clay titles in total.

Denise4925
Jun 25th, 2007, 03:39 AM
I'm not very familiar with Serena's performances on clay, but she doesn't exactly play well on it. When she's playing against power players on clay, she can manage and do the hitting game, but when she plays against players who knows how to work it on the surface, she usually has a much harder time getting her groove together and winning the match. One example is the Vera Z match in '02, where Vera pushed her to three sets, and had a legitimate shot at winning. So when she plays against one of the best clay courters of all time, did she really expect to come out and play a great clay court game and beat Justine? I don't really know why she feels the need to whine about this loss. She should just accept the fact that clay is not her surface, she lost to someone who is 324903783210743473129843 times better than her on it, and move on. Instead she wants to make it seem like Justine just stood there and fed her crap shots, and Serena threw that match away. As if Serena's really gonna blow Justine off the court if she had just buckled down and focused on her performance.

Justine has 4 RG titles, Serena has 2 clay titles in total.
:rolleyes: And one of those titles she beat Justine on and the other is an RG title.

All of the rest of your post is just :bs:

bandabou
Jun 25th, 2007, 07:09 AM
I'm not very familiar with Serena's performances on clay, but she doesn't exactly play well on it. When she's playing against power players on clay, she can manage and do the hitting game, but when she plays against players who knows how to work it on the surface, she usually has a much harder time getting her groove together and winning the match. One example is the Vera Z match in '02, where Vera pushed her to three sets, and had a legitimate shot at winning. So when she plays against one of the best clay courters of all time, did she really expect to come out and play a great clay court game and beat Justine? I don't really know why she feels the need to whine about this loss. She should just accept the fact that clay is not her surface, she lost to someone who is 324903783210743473129843 times better than her on it, and move on. Instead she wants to make it seem like Justine just stood there and fed her crap shots, and Serena threw that match away. As if Serena's really gonna blow Justine off the court if she had just buckled down and focused on her performance.

Justine has 4 RG titles, Serena has 2 clay titles in total.

Hmmm..I kinda agree...Serena in top flight CAN challenge Justine on clay, but that Serena is no longer there, so you are right. Serena should just accept the RG loss..

But in the same vein: Why are Justine-fans crying about the loss in Miami? Afterall, Justine has never beaten Serena on non-clay surfaces.

rottweily
Jun 25th, 2007, 11:47 AM
she lost to someone who is 324903783210743473129843 times better than her on it

And Justine can even play 9000 notches better on clay than she did in that match :devil:

winone23
Jun 25th, 2007, 12:02 PM
And Justine can even play 9000 notches better on clay than she did in that match :devil:

rottweily get it up already!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Denise4925
Jun 26th, 2007, 04:41 AM
And Justine can even play 9000 notches better on clay than she did in that match :devil:

True, which is why it's obivous she just showed up because Serena wasn't there at all.

:wavey: