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Nicolás89
Jun 22nd, 2007, 07:59 PM
(3)Jankovic vs (WC)Keothavong
Shaughnessy vs Gadjosova
Dulko vs Daniilidou
Ondroskova vs (26)Safarova

(18)Bartoli vs Pennetta
(Q)Govortsova vs Arn
Kanepi vs Malek
Tanasugarn vs (16)Peer

(9)Hingis vs (WC)Cavaday
Nakamura vs Sucha
Wozniak vs Granville
Lepchenko vs (20)Bammer

(31)Krajicek vs Obziler
Kloesel vs (WC)O'Brien
(WC)Kutuzova vs Poutchek
Kerber vs (8)Chakvetadze


i dont expect martina to go further than the quarters anyway,im a bit scared about that third round with sybille, but i think she has great draw :D

Cat's Pajamas
Jun 22nd, 2007, 08:05 PM
Anna will beat her in straight sets.

If Martina in good form can't beat Sugiyama on grass, I doubt bad-form Martina can beat Chak on grass :spit:

Nicolás89
Jun 22nd, 2007, 08:09 PM
they both have similar games but martina does everything better :shrug:

Bruno71
Jun 22nd, 2007, 08:12 PM
It's not a great draw for a player returning after a layoff really. Bammer, Chakvetadze, Jankovic, Peer, & Bartoli all have some grass court matches under their belt...I think it'll be difficult for Martina to get through this draw. But she has the ability, obviously, if she can re-find her game quickly.

Max565
Jun 22nd, 2007, 08:17 PM
How great is it that Martina gets the easy draw when she's not in form... :rolleyes:

Ryan
Jun 22nd, 2007, 08:40 PM
Hingis was NOT in form last Wimbledon - anyone who says that either didn't see her play or is a complete moron. I think the layoff will be good for her, but I expect a really tough match against Chak in the 4th round, where Martina would have to play really well to win.

Bruno71
Jun 22nd, 2007, 08:42 PM
Folks, don't underestimate Bammer. She's a careful player but has hidden weapons. I'd say an in-form Martina would beat her, but after the layoff it'll be a tough match for her.

Max565
Jun 22nd, 2007, 08:54 PM
Folks, don't underestimate Bammer. She's a careful player but has hidden weapons. I'd say an in-form Martina would beat her, but after the layoff it'll be a tough match for her.

Yeah. Although their head to head is heavily in favour of Hingis, Bammer is still a formidable opponent.

goldenlox
Jun 22nd, 2007, 08:57 PM
This is the softest quarter. Great opportunity for a lot of players to make a Wimbledon semi.

Ryan
Jun 22nd, 2007, 08:57 PM
Bammer on GRASS is another story from Bammer on clay. She's not that good on it, and if Hingis has any semblance of good form she'll win.

Alexj
Jun 22nd, 2007, 09:10 PM
Martina will lose to one of these three: Nakamura, Bammer, or Chakvetadze
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~Marion Bartoli~ Anna Chakvetadze~ Ana Ivanovic~ Jelena Jankovic~ Patty Schnyder~ Daniela Hantuchova~ Vera Zvonareva~ Dinara Safina~ Alona Bondarenko~ Nadia Petrova~ Elena Dementieva~

Bruno71
Jun 22nd, 2007, 09:12 PM
Bammer on GRASS is another story from Bammer on clay. She's not that good on it, and if Hingis has any semblance of good form she'll win.

Bammer's very good on grass...I've watched her play a couple of matches. I'm not trying to say she's great on it or she'd beat Martina, just saying she's not a player to sleep on on any surface.

PLP
Jun 22nd, 2007, 09:13 PM
Bammer on GRASS is another story from Bammer on clay. She's not that good on it, and if Hingis has any semblance of good form she'll win.

Yep, and let's not forgot Martina beat Bammer in str8 sets earlier this year, 6-0, 6-2. Of course Sybille can have her day, and she is in great form this year, but her daughter might be peeved if her mom beats her favorite player, LOL!
Should Anna and Martina meet in the 4th rd, I would still favor Hingis. Though Anna is in good form and has quite a good season already, her Wimbledon record is 2-2, Martina's is 21-7, even though it is her worst slam. I would be more scared should Hingis have to play Misa! (Though both matches could be :drool: )

Anyway, every match for Martina will be tough as she is completely cold. But as others have stated unlike last year, Martina comes into Wimbledon fresh. Last year she was already spent by the Grass-court season.

Come on Martina!!!! :hearts:

Viktymise
Jun 22nd, 2007, 09:14 PM
Weakest quater by far. Jankovic will make the semi's probably defeating Chaky in the quaters, unless Chaky can have a breakthrough in the big slams matches

Hingie
Jun 22nd, 2007, 11:32 PM
Anna will beat her in straight sets.

If Martina in good form can't beat Sugiyama on grass, I doubt bad-form Martina can beat Chak on grass :spit:

Please tell me you are not serious?!?

Marti played absolute crap against Sugiyama last year. Fluff forehands that pretty much did nothing and played most of the match scared and with very little penetration on the groundstrokes.

If she has been training and she has confidence, she should get through to play Jelena and then anything can happen. :drool:

Wannabeknowitall
Jun 22nd, 2007, 11:34 PM
Folks, don't underestimate Bammer. She's a careful player but has hidden weapons. I'd say an in-form Martina would beat her, but after the layoff it'll be a tough match for her.

I don't think many are underestimating Bam Bam.
Martina did crush her earlier this year.
I know Bam Bam's weaknesses and her strengths and even with Martina a bit rusty, Martina has enough in her game to take full advantage of this draw.

Derek.
Jun 22nd, 2007, 11:35 PM
I hope she can get past Chakvetadze.

Jankovic would be tough.

Wannabeknowitall
Jun 22nd, 2007, 11:53 PM
I think Martina could actually win this slam if the right things happen.

1) She has to make the semis.
2) Mauresmo makes the finals from the bottom half.
3) Justine makes the semis from her part of the draw.

I think Chakvetadze is dangerous on this surface but she's not a player Hingis hasn't seen before and beaten before.

I consider this surface to be Jankovic's worse surface because power and counter-punching has to the ability to drain her match after match.
If Hingis is going to outwit her, it will be on grass.

Justine might have gotten to two finals at Wimbledon but she is vulnerable on this surface.
Again if Martina is going to beat her, it probably will be on grass.

I think Mauresmo is playing good enough to make the finals again of this slam.
It wouldn't be the first player Hingis has beaten in a final of a slam who tried to serve and volley their way to it (Wimbledon 1997).

If those three things happen I think Martina could be in a good position to win this slam.

If they don't, she's fucked.

Reuchlin
Jun 23rd, 2007, 12:11 AM
I think Martina could actually win this slam if the right things happen.

1) She has to make the semis.
2) Mauresmo makes the finals from the bottom half.
3) Justine makes the semis from her part of the draw.

I think Chakvetadze is dangerous on this surface but she's not a player Hingis hasn't seen before and beaten before.

I consider this surface to be Jankovic's worse surface because power and counter-punching has to the ability to drain her match after match.
If Hingis is going to outwit her, it will be on grass.

Justine might have gotten to two finals at Wimbledon but she is vulnerable on this surface.
Again if Martina is going to beat her, it probably will be on grass.

I think Mauresmo is playing good enough to make the finals again of this slam.
It wouldn't be the first player Hingis has beaten in a final of a slam who tried to serve and volley their way to it (Wimbledon 1997).

If those three things happen I think Martina could be in a good position to win this slam.

If they don't, she's fucked.

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LeRoy.
Jun 23rd, 2007, 12:17 AM
I think most of these young players like Anna C have never played anyone like Martina before amd that alone makes Hingis a fave going into the match. That said Hingis has to be in a reasonably good form to even get that far.

Nicolás89
Jun 23rd, 2007, 12:27 AM
I think Martina could actually win this slam if the right things happen.

1) She has to make the semis.
2) Mauresmo makes the finals from the bottom half.
3) Justine makes the semis from her part of the draw.

I think Chakvetadze is dangerous on this surface but she's not a player Hingis hasn't seen before and beaten before.

I consider this surface to be Jankovic's worse surface because power and counter-punching has to the ability to drain her match after match.
If Hingis is going to outwit her, it will be on grass.

Justine might have gotten to two finals at Wimbledon but she is vulnerable on this surface.
Again if Martina is going to beat her, it probably will be on grass.

I think Mauresmo is playing good enough to make the finals again of this slam.
It wouldn't be the first player Hingis has beaten in a final of a slam who tried to serve and volley their way to it (Wimbledon 1997).

If those three things happen I think Martina could be in a good position to win this slam.

If they don't, she's fucked.

martina will find a way to screw it all, even if what you say really happens :lol:

Nicolás89
Jun 23rd, 2007, 12:28 AM
like i said if martina makes the quarter then ill be a complete person

Lunaris
Jun 23rd, 2007, 05:58 AM
Bammer on GRASS is another story from Bammer on clay. She's not that good on it, and if Hingis has any semblance of good form she'll win.
I thought that too, but I was wrong. Bammer is better on faster surfaces. Hingis will have a tough time to beat her and I don't think she will succeed. And if she does, then Chakvetadze will oust her in next round.

hingisGOAT
Jun 23rd, 2007, 06:53 AM
I am very pleased with Martina's draw. I know anything can happen, but I think she'll likely coast through her first two rounds. That will give her enough match play to beat Bammer, and if she beats Bammer I think she'll definitely be able to beat Anna C. Anna just isn't strong enough, isn't fast enough to trouble Martina. So I think as long as Hingis is eager to win, she will make it to the quarterfinals.

From there, it is anyone's guess...

Hashim.
Jun 23rd, 2007, 07:06 AM
c'mon Martina..

Hingie
Jun 23rd, 2007, 07:30 AM
Based on the draw Hingis has been given, it's quite an exciting prospect what could happen in this tournament.

So much depends on how she'll come back from injury though. She doesn't normally play lead in tournaments to Wimbledon so the timing could be good for her.

She's gotta believe in herself though. It's been too long since we've seen Hingis at her best and i think tennis fans need to be reminded of how brilliant she is.

:bounce:

martinafan
Jun 23rd, 2007, 07:45 AM
I really liked the draw when I saw it, and it is a good draw considering some of the other players she could have been drawn against

It's just such an unkonwn really....how will martina come back from her injury?

Even if her injury is 100% healed (which i hope it is if she intends on playing) - what martina will show up? the passive or aggressive martina?!?!

All in all, I really hope she can get to the quarters.....a win over jankovic to see hingis in the semi's would make me ecstatic!

But she could just as easily have a disaster and lose to Bammer 3R

Kunal
Jun 23rd, 2007, 07:55 AM
yea she wont go that deep not in the current form

Max565
Jun 23rd, 2007, 09:18 AM
:help: :help: :help: :help: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

:o :o :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :wavey:

Max565
Jun 23rd, 2007, 09:21 AM
I don't really think she'll go that far... mainly because of her injury and lack of match play. However, if she was healthy and hadn't had a bad injury, she would have breezed to the QF ;)

Russianboy
Jun 23rd, 2007, 09:23 AM
they both have similar games but martina does everything better :shrug:

Anna can the the ball harder than hingis

Max565
Jun 23rd, 2007, 09:24 AM
Anna can the the ball harder than hingis

Yes, but not considerably to trouble Hingis

Russianboy
Jun 23rd, 2007, 09:26 AM
Yes, but not considerably to trouble Hingis

We'll see :)

Max565
Jun 23rd, 2007, 09:34 AM
We'll see :)

Yeah, I actually think Anna might beat Martina IF they both reach that round. It'll be a combination of a tired, therefore passive Martina playing badly and Anna playing extremely well (but not overpowering her, she might beat Hingis at her own game)

CORIA01
Jun 23rd, 2007, 10:46 AM
I Do Not Find Hingis Draw That Easy!
Chakvetadze Jankovic And Even Bammer Could Be A Threat!

go hingis
Jun 23rd, 2007, 12:29 PM
I hope she has a good Wimbledon.

Nicolás89
Jun 26th, 2007, 12:42 AM
omg :scared:

please martina dont screw this one up :scared: :shout:

Mark for Martina
Jun 26th, 2007, 01:06 AM
I think the grass is like the fast indoor courts of Tokyo for Martina... She employs the same tactics here... If she takes the ball early and makes the move to net, she could be effective enough to go deep and maybe give everyone a few surprises...

LeonHart
Jun 26th, 2007, 01:15 AM
I agree. Martina last year at Wimbledon was not the aggressive shotmaking Martina that won her Wimbledon in 1997. To be honest the 3rd set today was al ot better than Martina last year lol.

Nicolás89
Jun 26th, 2007, 02:13 AM
I think the grass is like the fast indoor courts of Tokyo for Martina... She employs the same tactics here... If she takes the ball early and makes the move to net, she could be effective enough to go deep and maybe give everyone a few surprises...

the difference is that she looks so confident and confortable on green set but she looks very shaky and weak on grass :sad:

rommel99
Jun 26th, 2007, 02:16 AM
i miss her.. I wish i could watch her match on wednesday

pwayne
Jun 26th, 2007, 02:22 AM
Martina needs to play better to get past Bammer in round 3 because I have her losing there.

Nicolás89
Jun 27th, 2007, 08:04 PM
now the things are alot easier....

égalité
Jun 27th, 2007, 08:06 PM
Well so much for that Bammer thing.

Max565
Jun 27th, 2007, 08:15 PM
Well so much for that Bammer thing.

:lol: I know, it's now gotten a lot more easier for the Swiss Miss. :wavey: :) Having said that, Granville apparently is very good on grass :sad: :tape:

Wannabeknowitall
Jun 27th, 2007, 08:27 PM
:lol: I know, it's now gotten a lot more easier for the Swiss Miss. :wavey: :) Having said that, Granville apparently is very good on grass :sad: :tape:

Laura isn't too bad on hard courts either.
The last time Martina and Granville played, Martina crushed her.

Like Bam Bam, there's a lot of weakness in Granville's game that Martina can manipulate.
Martina has actually shown more growth in her game in the last few years than Granville would like to hope for.
Martina has gotten a feel for the grass, as long as she doesn't look ahead to the 4th round she should be fine.