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Vlad Tepes
Jun 22nd, 2007, 11:21 AM
How do you feel about this draw, I think it sucks! Why do the 2 best players have to meet so early again? :fiery:

Demska
Jun 22nd, 2007, 11:23 AM
I expect a similar result to the French.

jimbo mack
Jun 22nd, 2007, 11:26 AM
it's not fair...maria gets lucky yet again. she's also a b*tch without even trying lol

rollypooly
Jun 22nd, 2007, 11:27 AM
While I fully believe in Juju's skills and definitely think she'll win the match, I know that Serena is a lot better on grass than she is on clay... and it definitely doesn't seem fair that they have to play again- plus, Serena is ranked differently this time (she's #7 instead of #8). Definitely not fair.

Allez-H
Jun 22nd, 2007, 11:27 AM
I'm actually quite pleased about it. I'd rather have Justine play her in the quarters than in the final.

Effy
Jun 22nd, 2007, 11:30 AM
it's not fair...maria gets lucky yet again. she's also a b*tch without even trying lol

u r a bitch, troll and loser with very hard trying to insult a person u dont even know. Serena???111!!!

mdterp01
Jun 22nd, 2007, 11:32 AM
Hopefully the round in which they are meeting won't mean anything regarding "its easier to get Serena in the quarters than the final". She needs to bring it. If they both meet for the matchup, I say the Serena fire is in it this time. She won't have the French crowd to worry about pissing them off and boo-ing her and is on her territory now. Surface matters and this ain't clay. Serena wants a third Wimbledon title.

Vlad Tepes
Jun 22nd, 2007, 11:34 AM
I'm actually quite pleased about it. I'd rather have Justine play her in the quarters than in the final.

You have a point there, but it's somehow unfair to know one of them will have to bow out in the QF. At least we'll all appreciate Justine even more if she's able to make it 6 straight slam finals she has played. :bounce:

bellascarlett
Jun 22nd, 2007, 11:35 AM
it's not fair...maria gets lucky yet again. she's also a b*tch without even trying lol

As opposed to you who's trying very very hard...unsuccessfully i might add. :lol: :help:

Zweli
Jun 22nd, 2007, 11:38 AM
Who knows they might both not make the QF.Well if they do ,Serena will prevail, i have no doubt about that.

Bruno71
Jun 22nd, 2007, 11:39 AM
Who knows they might both not make the QF.Well if they do ,Serena will prevail, i have no doubt about that.

I have absolutely no doubt that barring injury, Justine will make the QF...Poutchkova or Bondarenko are not gonna beat her. Serena could possibly have a struggle with Hantuchova but I think she makes the quarters too. If they meet, I think it'll be a great match ;)

Yonexforever
Jun 22nd, 2007, 12:13 PM
You all can best believe is they both get there, we will see a return of that intensity from Serena we saw against Maria in Australia.
All long stares and big serves!

Russianboy
Jun 22nd, 2007, 12:15 PM
If I would be a Serena fan I would be totally happy :lol:

DavidEllul
Jun 22nd, 2007, 12:31 PM
allez justine!

bandabou
Jun 22nd, 2007, 12:35 PM
Hmmm....waaayyy too early meeting for them. should be at least a SF, but ok. Should be better match than the French, if they both make it so far.

tae04
Jun 22nd, 2007, 12:37 PM
Serena will hopefully run her over like in 2003. When she lost at Paris then met her at Wimbledon.

LegionArgentina
Jun 22nd, 2007, 12:38 PM
Cravero could beat Justine in the first round.

nhissan
Jun 22nd, 2007, 12:39 PM
I don't see how Justine can beat Serena on grass

Craigy
Jun 22nd, 2007, 12:39 PM
I don't see how Justine can beat Serena on grass

:weirdo:

Shinjiro
Jun 22nd, 2007, 12:40 PM
Serena will hopefully run her over like in 2003. When she lost at Paris then met her at Wimbledon.
i'm not so sure, back in 2003 she was a better player
but i agree it will be better than at the French, at least for Serena.

Dexter
Jun 22nd, 2007, 12:42 PM
I love it! As someone already pointed out it's better for Justine to play Serena before the final. ;)

Allez!

winone23
Jun 22nd, 2007, 12:42 PM
vamos Serena!!

maryjane
Jun 22nd, 2007, 12:43 PM
it's nice when they meet.i like to see how they face eachother.i hope serena will win.

GrandSlam05
Jun 22nd, 2007, 12:49 PM
I hope it's a great match!

SJW
Jun 22nd, 2007, 01:27 PM
Decent draw for Serena. She's the only Wimbledon champion in the top half.
It could have been worse...she could have drawn former champions Mauresmo or Sharapova in the QF.

Henin's the best
Jun 22nd, 2007, 01:37 PM
Serena wants a third Wimbledon title.

And Justine wants her first Wimbledon even more!:devil:
Actually I'd rather see a Venus vs. Justine match in the QF than serena vs. Justine. A serena-Justine final would have been great.:worship:

Bijoux0021
Jun 22nd, 2007, 01:40 PM
Hopefully the round in which they are meeting won't mean anything regarding "its easier to get Serena in the quarters than the final". She needs to bring it. If they both meet for the matchup, I say the Serena fire is in it this time. She won't have the French crowd to worry about pissing them off and boo-ing her and is on her territory now. Surface matters and this ain't clay. Serena wants a third Wimbledon title.
:worship: :worship: :worship:

Bijoux0021
Jun 22nd, 2007, 01:43 PM
Decent draw for Serena. She's the only Wimbledon champion in the top half.
It could have been worse...she could have drawn former champions Mauresmo or Sharapova in the QF.
I'm sure Mauresmo or Sharapova would have worried more about facing Serena in the quaters than the other way around.

chris whiteside
Jun 22nd, 2007, 01:46 PM
Maybe Venus can rise to the occasion and do us all a favour.

I know the draws are random but I'm sick and tired of the Russian World #2 constantly getting easier ones.

SJW
Jun 22nd, 2007, 01:48 PM
I'm sure Mauresmo or Sharapova would have worried more about facing Serena in quaters than the other way around.

Completely missed the point.

!<blocparty>!
Jun 22nd, 2007, 01:50 PM
YES YES YES YES YES!

I'm going to the QF and will most likely have front row seats for this match. :angel:

But, Serena will win easily, and it will totally suck.

The other QF's bore me. :( LMFAO @ Jankovic's draw.

franklinbouvier
Jun 22nd, 2007, 01:56 PM
I'm looking forward to it.
Whatever the outcome, I expect it'll be a wonderful match.
Neither player will simply roll over and let the other win.

K-Dog
Jun 22nd, 2007, 02:05 PM
Serena def. got shafted in the draw. Molik, Stosur, Hantuchova, and then she meets Justine. Tough road for Serena for sure. Perhaps all the tough players prior to Justine will be to Serena's advantage. She's have great practice at returning some great servers from round 2 on. Justine's serve won't be so tough once Serena gets there. This will be the obvious big match, but I feel that if Serena really is intense and wants this title, she'll win this match. Too much power from the serve, returns, and groundstrokes. Justine beat Serena in Paris using defense. That doesn't quite work at Wimbledon. Oh, and hopefully Serena doesn't try that stupid slicing shit like she did against JH at RG.

patricio
Jun 22nd, 2007, 02:06 PM
I expect a similar result to the French.
Jaja in grass????

This time Justine goes home in semis.

It reminds me of capriati v. SWilliams, the used to get QF all the time.

trufanjay
Jun 22nd, 2007, 02:08 PM
If it were Venus with the tough draw then I would be very worried. But Serena will not lose to someone who she is not supposed to. On grass that's nobody!

On clay I have to admit I was worried for Serena when she played Justine. This is Wimbledon, Justine fans should be worried.

rottweily
Jun 22nd, 2007, 02:08 PM
Justine beat Serena in Paris using defense.
Big LOL :lol:
Should I make a compilation of the points where she bossed Serena around :D
She used her impeccable defence and offence.

Bijoux0021
Jun 22nd, 2007, 02:10 PM
Completely missed the point.
You missed the point, or I missed the point?

Anyway, my point was, Serena wouldn't worry about facing either Mauresmo or Sharapova in the quarters, if that's what you meant when you said Serena's draw could have been worse if she had to face either one instead of Henin.

Bijoux0021
Jun 22nd, 2007, 02:17 PM
Serena def. got shafted in the draw. Molik, Stosur, Hantuchova, and then she meets Justine. Tough road for Serena for sure. Perhaps all the tough players prior to Justine will be to Serena's advantage. She's have great practice at returning some great servers from round 2 on. Justine's serve won't be so tough once Serena gets there. This will be the obvious big match, but I feel that if Serena really is intense and wants this title, she'll win this match. Too much power from the serve, returns, and groundstrokes. Justine beat Serena in Paris using defense. That doesn't quite work at Wimbledon. Oh, and hopefully Serena doesn't try that stupid slicing shit like she did against JH at RG.
Let's hope so. I would love to know who came up with this ridiculous idea to play that stupid slicing shit at the FO instead of playing her own game.

Knizzle
Jun 22nd, 2007, 02:18 PM
If Serena won't beat her on grass, she won't beat her anywhere.

rottweily
Jun 22nd, 2007, 02:18 PM
Let's hope so. I would love to know who came up with this ridiculous idea to play that stupid slicing shit at the FO instead of playing her own game.

Wasn't that her surprise for RG?

Bijoux0021
Jun 22nd, 2007, 02:22 PM
Wasn't that her surprise for RG?
If that was her surprise, she did surprise me when I saw her kept playing all those slices.

cellophane
Jun 22nd, 2007, 02:25 PM
Justrena? :hearts: Hoping for a result similar to Paris. :devil: Should be a better match, hopefully.

nhissan
Jun 22nd, 2007, 02:26 PM
:weirdo:

what's wrong with you?

Reuchlin
Jun 22nd, 2007, 02:31 PM
Oh brother...here go all the Williams fans with their "If [insert Williams sister] wants it enough it doesn't matter what the other players do." BULLSHIT. Serena and Venus are BOTH shitting their pants at the thought of playing Justine and Maria so early.

K-Dog
Jun 22nd, 2007, 02:34 PM
Big LOL :lol:
Should I make a compilation of the points where she bossed Serena around :D
She used her impeccable defence and offence.

I never said that she didn't use any offense. She did. But she relied on her defense, just like in 2003 at RG. Look what happened at Wimbledon. Justine couldn't get on top of any shots and was bossed around pretty much the whole match. I don't think that Serena will play as well in this quarter as she did in the semis in 2003, but I think she will have enough offense and serving to get through Justine. The only reason that Justine can dictate against Serena is because they were playing on a slower surface. Justine even admits that on clay against the power hitters, she has more time to organize her game. She is most vunerable on faster surfaces than any other surfaces. That's a fact by looking at her track record. This match will be tight, but if Serena is confident and believes in herself, she'll win whether it be two or three sets.

trufanjay
Jun 22nd, 2007, 02:37 PM
Oh brother...here go all the Williams fans with their "If [insert Williams sister] wants it enough it doesn't matter what the other players do." BULLSHIT. Serena and Venus are BOTH shitting their pants at the thought of playing Justine and Maria so early.
I disagree with that. Venus and Serena are not scared to play anyone. I have enough respect for Justine and Maria to not make that statement about them. And if they were uneasy (which they aren't) to play anyone why would it be at Wimbledon where they play better than everyone else.

.ivy.
Jun 22nd, 2007, 02:38 PM
it's not fair...maria gets lucky yet again. she's also a b*tch without even trying lol

Seriously, when I checked the draw this morning I was like WTF?! I was hoping for a Wimbledon final between these two, but it's another QF matchup. And who gets a fucking cakewalk? ...Sharapova, of course. :o

Apoleb
Jun 22nd, 2007, 02:39 PM
Seriously, when I checked the draw this morning I was like WTF?! I was hoping for a Wimbledon final between these two, but it's another QF matchup. And who gets a fucking cakewalk? ...Sharapova, of course. :o

How is it a cakewalk when she has to meet Venus in the 4th round? :weirdo:

SJW
Jun 22nd, 2007, 02:41 PM
Oh brother...here go all the Williams fans with their "If [insert Williams sister] wants it enough it doesn't matter what the other players do." BULLSHIT. Serena and Venus are BOTH shitting their pants at the thought of playing Justine and Maria so early.

And JH and Maria are just jumping at the thought of playing the sisters at Wimbledon.

trufanjay
Jun 22nd, 2007, 02:41 PM
I never said that she didn't use any offense. She did. But she relied on her defense, just like in 2003 at RG. Look what happened at Wimbledon. Justine couldn't get on top of any shots and was bossed around pretty much the whole match. I don't think that Serena will play as well in this quarter as she did in the semis in 2003, but I think she will have enough offense and serving to get through Justine. The only reason that Justine can dictate against Serena is because they were playing on a slower surface. Justine even admits that on clay against the power hitters, she has more time to organize her game. She is most vunerable on faster surfaces than any other surfaces. That's a fact by looking at her track record. This match will be tight, but if Serena is confident and believes in herself, she'll win whether it be two or three sets.
True, look at what happened to her at last year's US Open against Maria. I never expected Sharapova to win like that. Yes the match was sort of close and Justine wasn't serving too well but it was the power that got to Justine IMO. Henin was rushed and didn't have many opportunities to show off her game. Venus did it, Serena did it and I was a little shocked to see Sharapova do it.

ampers&
Jun 22nd, 2007, 02:43 PM
i look forward to this match. hopefully they'll both make it that far and Serena prevails this time. that French Open defeat was very hard for me to swallow and i won't be satisfied until Serena beats her with a similar score or totally demolishes her.

K-Dog
Jun 22nd, 2007, 02:48 PM
I agree ^^^^^. Although, I'll take a win no matter how, as long as she's not exhausted or injured doing it. To be honest, Jankovic's little tier 3 sweep on grass isn't impressing me that much. If Serena isn't dead from her match with Justine, she'll crush Jelena on the grass.

.ivy.
Jun 22nd, 2007, 02:51 PM
How is it a cakewalk when she has to meet Venus in the 4th round? :weirdo:

You and I both know that that all depends on how Venus plays.

Craigy
Jun 22nd, 2007, 02:54 PM
what's wrong with you?

Nothing. I just have a brain and know that Justine can beat Serena. It's not impossible.

Apoleb
Jun 22nd, 2007, 02:55 PM
You and I both know that that all depends on how Venus plays.

So what? She got on her way someone who could be extremely dangerous. This isn't an easy draw for her or a cakewalk.

cellophane
Jun 22nd, 2007, 02:56 PM
You and I both know that that all depends on how Venus plays.

Who would you prefer as a 4th round match - Dementieva or Venus? :tape:

TennisGuy21
Jun 22nd, 2007, 03:01 PM
This is great! Because either way Serena is gaining points and justine can only lose them. Plus the last time Serena was beat at the french by Justine, well.. We all know how she was whipped off the court at wimbledon. I think this looks very good for Serena, she is going to have the confidence of the grass, and she will be able to take care of Jelena to meet Venus in the Finals!!

manu
Jun 22nd, 2007, 03:03 PM
I think Serena would the (slight) favourite to win this one if it happened. She'd have to get trough Molik and probably Hantuchova (and Bartoli too? Not sure), who are all good grass-court players. I don't think she is as good as she was back in 2003, and Justine is a better grass-court player now than 4 years ago IMO, but I still think Serena has more weapons on grass. Let's hope for an exciting match though!

SerenaWFan
Jun 22nd, 2007, 03:10 PM
In a way I'm glad because, I really want them to play eachother again after the French, cause I know that Serena will totally be out for revenge. This is not only reminding me of 2003 when Serena lost to Justine at RG and then destroyed her at Wimbledon, but also it's even more reminiscent of 2004, when Serena lost to Capriati in the quaters of RG and then demolished her in the quaters of Wimbledon.

Vlad Tepes
Jun 22nd, 2007, 03:19 PM
Justine is probably playing the best game of her career right now, so all that happened in the past should be left there. Serena will be the favourite going into this match, no doubt, but only just. This was the worst draw possible for both of them and I think they'll both want to settle who's boss, so here's hoping for a match to remember.

Vlad Tepes
Jun 22nd, 2007, 03:23 PM
I'm sure that Serena will be hungry to win this encounter, but I also think it means even more for Justine, who needs a Wimbledon crown to cast away any doubt about her belonging to the all-time greats. If Serena wins, it won't mean very much, as it is her best surface and it would be expected more or less. However, if Justine wins and finally triumphs at SW 19, that would clearly place Serena at the #2 spot for this season at least.

Chunchun
Jun 22nd, 2007, 03:24 PM
sounds like 2003...I would expect to see a on fire Serena who's hungry for revenge

RenaSlam.
Jun 22nd, 2007, 03:25 PM
Serena will beat her on grass.

nhissan
Jun 22nd, 2007, 03:28 PM
Nothing. I just have a brain and know that Justine can beat Serena. It's not impossible.

:ignore:

Ntour
Jun 22nd, 2007, 03:42 PM
all this serena really wants number three so she wil win wasy does't mean that much, i recall her saying she really wanted FO #2 as well?

i will consider serena the slight favourite, an of course there is no shame losing to serena on grass, but don't count justine out she could be playing tactically her best at the moment

Ntour
Jun 22nd, 2007, 03:43 PM
sounds like 2003...I would expect to see a on fire Serena who's hungry for revenge

no offense but this isn't quite the serena on 2003
nor is it the justine of 2003, so really it could go either way

DavidEllul
Jun 22nd, 2007, 04:05 PM
this is going to be a really exciting one

azinna
Jun 22nd, 2007, 04:09 PM
Another quartefinal? Already? :lol: Serena just has a knack for drama. She just seems to always repeat-meet the current best: Hingis, Jennifer, Venus, Maria, now Justine. Basically, once a player moves into the Mansion, Serena comes knocking at the gate, eviction team in tow, asking for the deed, checking to see if it was notarized.....

Movement- and match-fitness-wise, Serena's not yet the player she was in 2003, while Justine has decidedly improved in tactics and confidence. Still, Serena at her aggressive best (AO final and some matches in Miami) will definitely handcuff Justine into enough forced errors. I think things depend most on Serena's emotional level come D-Day. She has a post-2003 tendency to at times put too much pressure on herself and come out of the gates stumbling with nerves. If she can avoid that, I can't see Justine taking this.

Hashim.
Jun 22nd, 2007, 04:09 PM
this time the result:unsure:

Experimentee
Jun 22nd, 2007, 04:10 PM
I hate the draw too. Its not fair that these two always have to meet while the others have an easy road to the final :mad:

Lulu.
Jun 22nd, 2007, 04:16 PM
It's on now :armed:

Thanx4nothin
Jun 22nd, 2007, 04:20 PM
Serena in straight sets, similar score to the french, only a reversal of the winner. Serena has too much for Justine on grass.

K-Dog
Jun 22nd, 2007, 04:23 PM
yup Serena is like @ 70% of her 2003 level while Justine is better than she was at 2003. But I still would like Serena to win. Only thing better than that would be Venus dusting Sharapova 1 & 1. :)

Serena at RG was 70% of her normal self. The Oz Open final and the matches prior to Peer at Miami were all matches that Serena played like she was playing in 2003.

pigam
Jun 22nd, 2007, 04:24 PM
serena clearly is the favourite on grass.
Ju will really have to get into her head that she will have to be attacking, and not Serena. But off course, easier said than done against serena on grass.

But let's just wait and see. It isn't there yet. Anything could happen before the QF's. But, isn't it strange, Ju and Venus never seem to raw eachoter early, and Ju and Serena attract like magnets to iron (sic?)

cartmancop
Jun 22nd, 2007, 04:26 PM
Sucks that they meet early again! Should have been a SF or Final... I think it will be similar score to the French, but a different winner :devil: actually I think it can be a great 3 set classic :)

VishaalMaria
Jun 22nd, 2007, 04:37 PM
Serena should take this but I think the scoreline will be something like 7-5 6-3 in favour of Serena.

The Roland Garros match has no indication; that was Serena's eight red clay match in two years whereas Justine was obviously the most confident on the surface [winning the previous two Roland Garros'].

Brownl
Jun 22nd, 2007, 05:14 PM
YES YES YES YES YES!

I'm going to the QF and will most likely have front row seats for this match. :angel:

But, Serena will win easily, and it will totally suck.

The other QF's bore me. :( LMFAO @ Jankovic's draw.

I hope serena win

SAEKeithSerena
Jun 22nd, 2007, 05:41 PM
You all can best believe is they both get there, we will see a return of that intensity from Serena we saw against Maria in Australia.
All long stares and big serves!


i totally agree

supergrunt
Jun 22nd, 2007, 05:43 PM
I think that people are grossly under-estimated Justine and her desire :( - and it just might be our downfalls! :tears:

Stamp Paid
Jun 22nd, 2007, 05:48 PM
If Serena won't beat her on grass, she won't beat her anywhere.I'm saying.

franklinbouvier
Jun 22nd, 2007, 05:49 PM
I agree people underestimate Justine's chances.
She may not have won Wimbledon (yet) but she's reached the final twice.
She CAN play very well on grass and she will in the QF whether against Serena (if they both reach that stage) or anyone else.
If they meet, it'll be a classic match. I hope.

supergrunt
Jun 22nd, 2007, 05:51 PM
yeah they said the same thing about their match at the French :(

Pasta-Na
Jun 22nd, 2007, 06:16 PM
hope juju will win :p

Lolo8
Jun 22nd, 2007, 06:18 PM
I really have my doubts for Serena in this match. If Serena were meeting Justine in a semi-final or final, I would most definitedly give Serena the edge here, but something tells me that Justine will be looking to prove herself against Serena on grass. In seeing the wimbeldon party pics, she's really looking more fit and in shape, hopefully her improved fitness will fare for her in the coming matches.

tennisjunky
Jun 22nd, 2007, 06:24 PM
it's not a given that serena will win. wouldn't be shocked if justine pulled the mild upset, but we cant forget that the surface makes serena weapons that much more difficult to play against. if serena is on, cant see justine beating her. but if serena is playing nervous tennis with unforced errors than it could complicate things for her.

still hope, pray, and want serena in straights.

Thanx4nothin
Jun 22nd, 2007, 06:26 PM
I think that people are grossly under-estimated Justine and her desire :( - and it just might be our downfalls! :tears:

What do you mean OUR downfalls, our attitudes don't dictate the winner of a match...only the players attitudes. I however have not underestimated Justine, it could really go either way. 60:40 for Serena...on the grounds that her serve is a lot better.

Tennisaddict
Jun 22nd, 2007, 06:44 PM
I think it´s actually good that they´re meeting in the quarters. If Serena comes out ready to do battle she will win this match. Besides Serena will have had tough matches against Molik and Stosur when and if she reaches the quarters. Just no replay of her on-court attitude at RG. That was a dissapointing display.

supergrunt
Jun 22nd, 2007, 06:46 PM
What do you mean OUR downfalls, our attitudes don't dictate the winner of a match...only the players attitudes. I however have not underestimated Justine, it could really go either way. 60:40 for Serena...on the grounds that her serve is a lot better.

yes, it is the karma :apumpkin:

Beny
Jun 22nd, 2007, 06:46 PM
I expect a similar result to the French.

Me too.;)

I just can`t see Justine lose in the QF. no matter who her opponent is.
Justine will win this match.

schorsch
Jun 22nd, 2007, 06:47 PM
thats the best thing ever. coz i dont want both of them reaching the semis :haha: well, i know it sounds mean, but i wouldnt want it to happen.

serenafan08
Jun 22nd, 2007, 07:34 PM
Serena will win if they play each other. Her power is magnified on grass, and that will rob Justine of time to set up her shots. Matches on clay don't always indicate how well a player can play. Clay can make the best champions look totally human, which is why it's so difficult to play on it. That said, it makes what Justine has done at Roland Garros even more incredible. It takes a special fortitude to play on clay, and it's something that Justine has naturally and something that players like Serena have to work harder at. But this is grass, and it tends to favor power. Serena can overpower anybody because she can take the first strike either on her serve or when she's returning serve. That's her biggest weapon. Serena will beat Justine - but they have to make it there first!

faste5683
Jun 22nd, 2007, 08:33 PM
You all can best believe is they both get there, we will see a return of that intensity from Serena we saw against Maria in Australia.
All long stares and big serves!


:lol: Juju don't care about no stares - the serves are a different matter, however. Stares don't hurt, 120 mph serves down the T-bone do...

:wavey:

Matt01
Jun 22nd, 2007, 08:39 PM
I would have loved to see a Justine vs. Serena final :sad:

Hopefully it will be a good match, though (in case they will really play...).

bandabou
Jun 22nd, 2007, 08:42 PM
serena clearly is the favourite on grass.
Ju will really have to get into her head that she will have to be attacking, and not Serena. But off course, easier said than done against serena on grass.

But let's just wait and see. It isn't there yet. Anything could happen before the QF's. But, isn't it strange, Ju and Venus never seem to raw eachoter early, and Ju and Serena attract like magnets to iron (sic?)

Odd indeed..possibly 3rd meeting already this year, yet no Juju vs Vee in sight..

heytennis
Jun 22nd, 2007, 08:42 PM
Hopefully they will be on opposite sides of the draw for the USO.

In this case, I think it will be a fantastic 3 setter!

faste5683
Jun 22nd, 2007, 08:46 PM
You know, grass courts can get slippery - the footing is certainly not like on a hard-court.

I really believe that with the way Juju is moving and volleying she can take Serena down this time.

'Rena will have to serve huge in order to win.

We'll have to wait and see...

:wavey:

DOUBLEFIST
Jun 22nd, 2007, 08:50 PM
Serena will prevail IF her serving is big AND effecient. That's the key to her game. When that serve is clicking all other aspects of her game vastly improve! She serves great, she wins going away. If she struggles, I look for Juju to pull the upset. Serena isn't in her '03 form, and Henin is playing better than she's ever played. Sorry guys, but it's true.

The draw, however, can be a huge blessing for Serena. Those are some tough people she could potentially face, and they will force her to tune her game EARLY- especially Hanty. Consequently, I expect Serena to be more ready ready for Justine's level of play than the reverse.

Anyway, GoooooOOOOOOO Serena!!!!!!!!!

faste5683
Jun 22nd, 2007, 08:51 PM
I don't see how Justine can beat Serena on grass


:tape:

Me either.

:tape:

:wavey:

RAA
Jun 22nd, 2007, 08:54 PM
<sigh> I was annoyed at the draw too if only because I feel like we have seen this match up recently and I was looking to see something else..

I think serena will prevail.. but Justine will not go without a fight.

DA FOREHAND
Jun 22nd, 2007, 08:57 PM
let's put it this way if they both start the match the way they played at the French, Serena will win.

Bruno71
Jun 22nd, 2007, 09:06 PM
There are so many X factors coming into this match. Serena hasn't played a tournament match on grass since 2005. Justine is in form but grass isn't her most suitable surface. Serena is a tougher out in a semi or a final than a quarter. Justine's 1st serve % is often very low. I've seen Justine on grass, so I'd hesitate to make a prediction until I see Serena this year...but my guess is Serena takes this one in a barnburner.

trufanjay
Jun 22nd, 2007, 09:07 PM
If Serena gets into a quarterfinal with Justine then she will most likely win. This is not Paris. Justine will do well but when it comes down to it the match is in Serena's hands. If Serena plays well then she will win. It's really simple.

Serena has only had maybe three or four bad matches this year. On average, healthy Serena has been pretty solid. This is Serena's first Wimbledon in over a year and she will make the most of it. Based on Serena's history, this is where she would make her move. I can't remember the last time Serena played two ugly matches in a row against the same player. In terms of history, surface and mental factors, the odds are heavily against Justine.

MrSerenaWilliams
Jun 22nd, 2007, 09:07 PM
Clay muted Serena's power and slowed her movement. Grass accentuates all of the strengths in her game, I don't see her losing. Yes I know Justine has improved, but her best shot was last year, and Serena's a better grass courter than Amelie, and I'm not saying Serena will spank her, but I think she'll win.

Her movement looked SO awkward in that quarterfinal. She was sliding away from the ball, not into the ball, and that's the FIRST way to lose on clay, especially to someone as prolific as Justine. On grass, she doesn't have those issues, and I think that her level of confidence will be higher too, knowing that she's got 2 Wimbledon title to Justine's 2 finalists, as opposed to Justine's 3 Roland Garros titles to Serena's 1.

Not to mention that Venus and Serena are playing doubles, and every year that they have played a doubles match, at least one Williams sister has WON the title (they entered the draw in 1998, but they withdrew before their first match). And in 2001, Serena really should have been the that final too. She was still deep in her choker phase and choked away that quarterfinal to Jennifer, and would have (based on form and history) defeated Henin to get to the final. Doubles works wonders for the game of Venus and Serena because it forces them to work on their weaknesses (hitting exclusively on one side, volleying, hitting smarter vs. hitting harder), and that's DANGEROUS for the rest of players in the draw, including the top 2 seeds.

I think if they do meet, it could be a much better match than the FO match, but it could be the same as the FO match, just with the winning player changing ;)

master40
Jun 22nd, 2007, 09:13 PM
Well, it is ok... It is way better than Serena meeting Sharapova, Jankovic or Mauresmo before who are way bigger threads.

pigam
Jun 22nd, 2007, 09:16 PM
Well, it is ok... It is way better than Serena meeting Sharapova, Jankovic or Mauresmo before who are way bigger threads.

threads :hearts:

pkilli
Jun 22nd, 2007, 09:21 PM
It's a shame to see Justine and Serena drawing in the quarters again!

Serena is very tough opponent to beat on any surface and especially on Grass, but I think Justine has definitely potential this year to win against Serena considering how well Justine is playing now on Grass. Based on Eastbourne matches she didn't took any time adjusting on Grass and her serve is consistently over 60% and Justine improved her volley skills tremendously. Justine also serving tactically very good against all the power players this year and had a lot of success winning those matches quite easily.

Hots4Safin
Jun 22nd, 2007, 09:32 PM
Another quartefinal? Already? :lol: Serena just has a knack for drama. She just seems to always repeat-meet the current best: Hingis, Jennifer, Venus, Maria, now Justine. Basically, once a player moves into the Mansion, Serena comes knocking at the gate, eviction team in tow, asking for the deed, checking to see if it was notarized.....

Movement- and match-fitness-wise, Serena's not yet the player she was in 2003, while Justine has decidedly improved in tactics and confidence. Still, Serena at her aggressive best (AO final and some matches in Miami) will definitely handcuff Justine into enough forced errors. I think things depend most on Serena's emotional level come D-Day. She has a post-2003 tendency to at times put too much pressure on herself and come out of the gates stumbling with nerves. If she can avoid that, I can't see Justine taking this.



A very funny and true observation about Serena knocking on the mansion gates. But all this about Serena not being the player she was in 2003...of course she's not. She's 4 years older. I think she's made some slight changes in her game since then but for the most part it's quite similiar. And the comparison to 2003 is a fair one b/c things are going very much the same way. The only big difference is that this year Serena was out of control during the RG match. Or should I say, she never had the control...which is understandable b/c her clay prep this year was piss-poor...unlike 2003. So I don't get why people can say she's not the same level player she was then. I think she is...and so do Sharapova, Vaidasova, Janko, and JH.

-VSR-
Jun 22nd, 2007, 09:41 PM
Clay muted Serena's power and slowed her movement. Grass accentuates all of the strengths in her game, I don't see her losing. Yes I know Justine has improved, but her best shot was last year, and Serena's a better grass courter than Amelie, and I'm not saying Serena will spank her, but I think she'll win.

Her movement looked SO awkward in that quarterfinal. She was sliding away from the ball, not into the ball, and that's the FIRST way to lose on clay, especially to someone as prolific as Justine. On grass, she doesn't have those issues, and I think that her level of confidence will be higher too, knowing that she's got 2 Wimbledon title to Justine's 2 finalists, as opposed to Justine's 3 Roland Garros titles to Serena's 1.

Not to mention that Venus and Serena are playing doubles, and every year that they have played a doubles match, at least one Williams sister has WON the title (they entered the draw in 1998, but they withdrew before their first match). And in 2001, Serena really should have been the that final too. She was still deep in her choker phase and choked away that quarterfinal to Jennifer, and would have (based on form and history) defeated Henin to get to the final. Doubles works wonders for the game of Venus and Serena because it forces them to work on their weaknesses (hitting exclusively on one side, volleying, hitting smarter vs. hitting harder), and that's DANGEROUS for the rest of players in the draw, including the top 2 seeds.

I think if they do meet, it could be a much better match than the FO match, but it could be the same as the FO match, just with the winning player changing ;)

Excellent post! :yeah:

Thanx4nothin
Jun 22nd, 2007, 09:57 PM
:worship: :devil: :) Excellent post! :yeah:

I second that an excellent post.

Donatello
Jun 23rd, 2007, 05:34 AM
Serena could possibly have a struggle with Hantuchova
no
Justine beat Serena in Paris using defense. That doesn't quite work at Wimbledon. Oh, and hopefully Serena doesn't try that stupid slicing shit like she did against JH at RG.

what's so stupid about slicing ?

Big LOL :lol:
Should I make a compilation of the points where she bossed Serena around :D
She used her impeccable defence and offence.

Yeah, offense, like hitting winners for instance, what was the difference in winners ?

Let's hope so. I would love to know who came up with this ridiculous idea to play that stupid slicing shit at the FO instead of playing her own game.

Slicing is not stupid, go ask Justine.

Justine is probably playing the best game of her career right now, so all that happened in the past should be left there. Serena will be the favourite going into this match, no doubt, but only just.

You have missed a couple of Henin interviews and should also take a look at the rankings and last year's results to see who's the favorite.


Anyway the draw sucks, this should be the final. The no.1 should always meet the no.8 in the QF.

10s4life
Jun 23rd, 2007, 05:44 AM
there are better players in marias half than serena. the serena williams fans were hoping to get another injured sharapova instead?

Sir Stefwhit
Jun 24th, 2007, 11:52 PM
In terms of excitement, it's true, no other matchup would make as good a final as Serena vs. Justine. But the way the draw turned out, there's potential for a lot of intriguing and mouth-watering finals. For old times sake it could be fun to have a Serena vs. Venus final. Or how about a rematch of last years final, that could be fun especially considering how close their (Juju & Momo) last match was. Or what about a Venus vs. Justine rematch or a Maria vs. Serena rematch, both Justine and Serena would love to avenge their Wimby loses and both are in better positions to do so. There's a ton of ways for this draw to play out and I think the final could really be something special, even if it's not a Justine vs. Serena final.