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TeeRexx
Jul 5th, 2002, 01:59 PM
A very surprising reaction from two players that I repected.
I think they should rethink their training and attitudes real quick.
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all-Williams final WIMBLEDON, England (AP) -- Justine Henin and Amelie Mauresmo aren't so sure another all-Williams Grand Slam final is a good thing for women's tennis.

Of course, they are the players who lost to the sisters in the Wimbledon semifinals Thursday.

"That's good for them," the sixth-seeded Henin said. "But I think that maybe the crowd likes also to see the other players in different Grand Slam finals."

She was beaten by two-time defending champion Venus 6-3, 6-2 in a rematch of the 2001 final. Serena followed by defeating No. 9 Mauresmo 6-2, 6-1.

It will be the third Williams vs. Williams Grand Slam championship match in the last 10 months. Venus won at the U.S. Open, while Serena won at the French Open.

"It's a little bit sad for women's tennis, but maybe it's not the point of view for everybody," Mauresmo said. "People are going to get bored about it. It was already the final at the French Open. I can't count how many people since yesterday told me, 'We don't want Williams final."

"You know, some people think like this. Some people think it's good. Everyone has a different opinion."

Not surprisingly, Venus has a different take on the subject.

"It's good for tennis," she said. "It's good for Serena and I more than anything."

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I am also worrying what else this jealousy over the Williams may span in the weak minded people that are out in the public.

Well, anyway f*ck them.

Beat
Jul 5th, 2002, 02:12 PM
well, you left out too much of what else they said. go back and re-read the interviews.

jmaffi2
Jul 5th, 2002, 02:26 PM
Well said Tee,

Amelie displayed the worst case of SOUR GRAPES i've seen in recent years from a tennis player...SORE LOSER

Anyway, F*uck 'em too. Sure going to enjoy the Finals on Saturday...

GO VENUS GO SERENA....

RAA
Jul 5th, 2002, 02:27 PM
who cares what they said??!! lets be happy about Serena vs. VEnus, Grand Slam Act II
Both Henin and Mauresmo had great tournaments and should be congratulated for their efforts.

Helen Lawson
Jul 5th, 2002, 02:28 PM
What is wrong with what she said? Some people told her they did not want to watch. She says she thinks it is boring but that others might feel another way. Big deal! I like a broad who speaks her mind.

mom3
Jul 5th, 2002, 02:30 PM
F*ck you too you are a stupid fan, and speak about what you don't know and hear :mad:
Amélie said Serena was too good for her, and how she can't do anything but loose that match :fiery:

TeeRexx
Jul 5th, 2002, 02:37 PM
mom3 - When the Williams lost to these players, there was never anything said by either VENUS or SERENA that was anything but complimentary.

These two made international statements despariging the Williams because they lost.

Yeah, f*ck them and YOU too!

Josh
Jul 5th, 2002, 02:38 PM
Good effort from Tee to get one or two lines from an interview completely out of context.

Yes Justine is a really sore loser, especially after all the praise she gave to the sisters :rolleyes:

Q. Was Venus just too good today?
JUSTINE HENIN: I think she was too strong, too good. She didn't do a lot of mistakes. She didn't let me play. She was so aggressive, so powerful, so what could I do? I started good the beginning of the match was fine, but I had to do many rallies to win the point, and that was hard.
So, no, she was simply better than me today, a lot better.

Q. What are your thoughts on an all-Williams final, that it's hard for sisters to play.
JUSTINE HENIN: I suppose that it's hard. I will never be in this situation. But I suppose that for sisters to play each other, I think it can be difficult. I understand that. Yeah, it's hard. I think they are the No. 1, No. 2 in the world. That's normal because they are the two best players in the world. But, okay, it's hard also for the other players because we have to fight a lot but we will continue. They are No. 1, No. 2, and that's a normal situation. But I'm playing for myself, and I will just try to continue on the way I did in this tournament.

Q. Do you get the feeling that the Williams sisters are pulling away from the rest of the pack, separating themselves?
JUSTINE HENIN: Yeah, I think now they are two best players in the world, and we can see it on court. So, yeah.

Q. Obviously it's good for the Williams family that they're in many finals and Grand Slams against each other. What do you think the effect is on tennis and the perceptions of the sport?
JUSTINE HENIN: I think it's difficult and maybe too early to say anything. But for sure they were both of them US Open, French Open, probably Wimbledon here. So, yeah, that's good for them. But I think that maybe the crowd like also to see the other players in different final Grand Slams.
But if they are in the final, that's because they're playing so well. So, I mean, it's a difficult situation.

I can't find Momo's interview??? :confused:

griffin
Jul 5th, 2002, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by jmaffi2

Amelie displayed the worst case of SOUR GRAPES i've seen in recent years from a tennis player...SORE LOSER



Oh you have GOT to be kidding me - either that or you haven't read many interviews.


Go here:
http://www.wimbledon.com/news/interviews/5e799577731bb13f00256beb00629c09.html
Click on the "Amelie Mauresmo Interview - Day 9" link. When the new window opens up, you'll see that there is a link for her Day 10 interview on the left side. (thanks to jabberwocky for posting these instructions earler)

Yes, she did say that too many all Williams finals could get boring, and that it was sad for women's tennis that the rest of the field was so far behind.

She DID NOT say that was Venus or Serena's fault. She also gave Serena a ton of praise for the way she played (funny how THAT bit hasn't been quoted - but I suppose it doesn't support the points some people are trying to make)

The quotes that have some of you screaming were taken WAY out of context and twisted - just as in the past people have taken quotes from Venus and Serena about what went wrong with their games during losses as "proof" that they were arrogant and never gave their opponents proper credit. What you're doing to Amelie and Juju right now is no more fair than what was done to malign the Williams sisters,

Personally, I think Amelie's an intelligent woman and I think she should have known to choose her words more carefully. But frankly if we all parsed our own statements in half so much detail as we did every last thing the players say, the discourse on this board would be a hell of a lot more constructive and intelligent.

RAA
Jul 5th, 2002, 02:42 PM
Yes, I do think what Momo said was taken out of context.
As were Venus' remarks about Steffi not being a [good] grass court player.

whorehand
Jul 5th, 2002, 02:45 PM
They both speak the truth. If you see the crowds at wimbledon, they always cheer for the venus/serena's opponents. People want to see a bit of variety and new winners. But if henin, mauresmo and co. think the williams sisters are ruining the game, why dont they do something about it. Easier said than done though.

Josh
Jul 5th, 2002, 02:45 PM
Thanks Griff! Why do they make it so tough to find an interview lol.

Volcana
Jul 5th, 2002, 02:46 PM
I can't see anything at all wrong with what Justine said.

And Amelie had just been beaten pretty badly AFTER handling Jenn pretty easily. Finding out that Serena was that much better than Jenn had to be shock. Sure Venus and Serena never say things like that after losses, but they, Venus esp. grew up in the publlic eye. They are quite media-savvy.

And while I do raher like All-Williams finals, I rather enjoyed the OZ final too, and there was nary a Williams in sight. I think jumping on the players every time they display an emotional that isn't straight out of Martha Stewart is simply unfair.

persond
Jul 5th, 2002, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by RAA
Yes, I do think what Momo said was taken out of context.
As were Venus' remarks about Steffi not being a [good] grass court player.

:D RAA,

I think that's called "selective reasoning"!!:D :D

griffin
Jul 5th, 2002, 03:01 PM
lol, yes it is. Seems to be a lot of that going around these days.

RAA
Jul 5th, 2002, 03:10 PM
I always think its very important to read an entire post-match interview and not rely on the one or two quotes that journalists use to write their story. Even though Jen sticks her foot in her mouth quite a bit too, I think the press does pick one or two statements that sound *particularly* bad and play on those.

If possible, its best to actually SEE and HEAR the press conference, because the players tone of voice and facial expression really affects how you could interpret their remarks.

Hingis' press conferences used to really irritate me until I saw a few tapes of them. Yes, she can be blunt, but most of the times her remarks less grating (to me) when I saw her actually say them as oppose to reading about one or two lines in a press conference.

jmaffi2
Jul 5th, 2002, 03:14 PM
Griffin

There's really no need to write like an ASS...why dont you post some more instructions on how to copy and paste?? GEE i could really do with some help!!!

FYI i have read tons of interviews from losing tennis players over the years. May be Amelies wasnt exactly the worst but she sure does come close..
So if Amelie is saying that its not Venus or Serena's fault that an All-Williams finals is boring and sad for womens tennis then its only logical not to come out with bitchy stupid comments pointing to Venus/Serena. ITS HER OWN FAULT FOR PLAYING LIKE A LAME DUCK , perhaps a few more practice sessions would be highly recommended.

One thing for sure though... Saturday's finals is gonna be awesome!
Got some centre court tickets i could give you( if you happen to be anywhere near london SW19) so that you can watch and relay to Amelie on how Tennis should be played..

Brαm
Jul 5th, 2002, 03:17 PM
Oh Teerexx... You're such a pathetic person...

griffin
Jul 5th, 2002, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by jmaffi2
Griffin

There's really no need to write like an ASS...

Well then, don't.

I will agree with you about one thing - I'm looking forward to the final, too, although you'll have a much better view than I will from my living room.

Jay
Jul 5th, 2002, 03:19 PM
Tee Texx, you've done it again. Another unintelligent and biased thread aimed at causing trouble.

As Griffin and Josh have rightly pointed out you have done a 'tabloid' and selected only a couple of lines from an interview and delibrately left out all the other lines that contradict your one dimensional opinions.

Incidently Justine and Amelie are sore losers and so is Jelena, Venus, Serena, Kim and all the others. I've seen or rather heard plenty of locker room temper tantrums last week to know what I'm talking about.

Every single tennis pro, WTA and ATP, hates losing. They have to. It is so competitive and if you don't have that attitude you won't make it on either tour.

So I don't object to the title of your thread, just the way you have presented it to make out that Justine and Amelie are lacking in good manners or respect to their fellow pros.

As much as I'm a fan of Venus I reported an incident involving Venus where she was disrespectful to her fellow pros. I noticed that you had no comment to make about that and I can understand that because there was no defence.

You need to learn a little humilty towards other players. But I know you won't. You can't help it, it's in your nature to do what you do.

the_ancyent_marinere
Jul 5th, 2002, 03:31 PM
Itīs stupid trying to create more animosity by bringing up these apparently negative reactions (if there really were any, that is) towards yet another Williams sister final. Why, TeeRex, focus on other things then their success? Venus and Serena won, right? So, try and be happy about it and donīt stir up any more trouble.

The Williamses have brought womens tennis to a new dimension, that many have said and I cannot disagree. However, they have been paced by the rivalry of a handful other great players, such as Hingis, Davey, Cappy, Seles ... Henin and Mauresmo! Personaly, I think that Jenniferīs three GS-wins motivated Venusī and Serenasī obviously syncronized peaked performances.

servenrichie
Jul 5th, 2002, 03:51 PM
Tee, keep the threads rolling!

bilal
Jul 5th, 2002, 03:56 PM
Blown out of proportion...

Antigone
Jul 5th, 2002, 04:04 PM
First of all: "Man you guys are hostile."
Second of all: Ok Serena and Venus are the top players of the world @ this moment, that's a known fact. But like many others, I think it isn't such a good thing 4 tennis, it's no fun watching a game and knowing who's going to win?! Unless it's Venus vs. Serena :)

Greetz

Ms. Lively
Jul 5th, 2002, 04:06 PM
Justine and Amelie are telling the truth. Do you want them to be fake and tell lies, by saying how wonderful another all Williams final is?

persond
Jul 5th, 2002, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by Ms. Lively
Justine and Amelie are telling the truth. Do you want them to be fake and tell lies, by saying how wonderful another all Williams final is?

It's not really a matter of being fake, but of good sportsmanship!! You lose some and you win some. Let's suppose the Williamses weren't fake and in their interviews said something like...Oh, I just tapped that azz of hers real good.!!

What's your opinion about a scenario such as I described above??
I thought so!!!

vw43
Jul 5th, 2002, 04:17 PM
I disagree that another all Williams final is sad for the game of tennis. However, I don't see anything wrong with someone else having a different opinion.

TeeRexx: It's seems your antics have been called out. This is the part where you apologize for your oversights and start focusing on the positive fact that your faves are kicking serious ass.

Julie
Jul 5th, 2002, 04:47 PM
Thumbs up to those who took the time to spell it out as it really was.

That said another pointless thread trying to berate players rather than celebrate their achievements. I wouldnt be true to form if i didnt close this one as i did others but once again PM me if you have justifiable objections and i will re-consider.