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TSequoia01
Jul 4th, 2002, 11:33 PM
I get the impression that Chris Evert brings up the topic of the Sisters and match fixing to try and force Venus and Serena to play well. I mean to send a message to both Ladies that the establishment will be watching. Leave some blood on the court, prove to us this is real. Well forget it Chris, the Sisters are in the final and there absolutely is not a damn thing that you can do about it. :p :p :p :eek:

persond
Jul 4th, 2002, 11:42 PM
:wavey: Hi TSequoia01:wavey:

I think she harps on it so much because there's little else for which to complain!!!:cool: :cool:

I mean, the Sisters have so improved, the announcers must "dig" really deep, to find the negative aspects to talk about.:) :)

joneg2
Jul 5th, 2002, 12:33 AM
Hey TS......01. You make an excellent point. I was wondering why she brought it up again, as if to bait the other announcers, see what they thought. It was clear to me that she believes that there is definitely some truth to the rumors. This surprised me.

neorules
Jul 5th, 2002, 12:56 AM
Everyone knows its Venus's turn to win.

TSequoia01
Jul 5th, 2002, 01:06 AM
Originally posted by joneg2
Hey TS......01. You make an excellent point. I was wondering why she brought it up again, as if to bait the other announcers, see what they thought. It was clear to me that she believes that there is definitely some truth to the rumors. This surprised me.

Kudos to Bud Collins for shooting her hata conspiracy down. It is almost a lobbying effort from Chrissie for legislation to prevent an all William's final. Think it cannot happen? Let the Sisters show up in the finals of the Open and the outcry will be big. Amelie, Sabbatini, and others are in the news media complaining about these finals. Trust me, they will not allow Black folks to keep controlling these million dollar events. There outward excuse will be the matches are boring or noncompetitive when in reality it's really resentment of the Williamses power to decide the outcomes if they so choose. Think the powers that be will take their word for it? They will change the rules.


Hi back at ya Persond :wavey:

neorules
Jul 5th, 2002, 01:21 AM
Lest the sisters not forget--match fixing could put them in prison. In any other sport if it is proven a game or match is fixed, the participants are penalized banned or sentenced. Just because you are in a position to fix the match doesn't make it right.

CHOCO
Jul 5th, 2002, 01:26 AM
Huh...?????

CHOCO
Jul 5th, 2002, 01:33 AM
TSequoia01 - you're spot on with your observation. Not only Chris, but other announcers and before you know it, sports talk show announcers will parrot this nonsense.

It seems they go by the theory that if you throw enough mud against the wall (slander and libel), some of it will probably stick.

You would think these tennis announcers would soak up the ever increasing popularity of the WTA.

Bright Red
Jul 5th, 2002, 01:44 AM
It baffles me that you hear that same comment everywhere. I agree that it's just that there's nothing else to say (apart from giving the Sisters their due).

Lisbeth
Jul 5th, 2002, 01:47 AM
What is the psychology of Chris Evert full stop? She just likes to express ill-thought out opinions a lot, in my view.

TSequoia01
Jul 5th, 2002, 01:50 AM
Originally posted by neorules
Lest the sisters not forget--match fixing could put them in prison. In any other sport if it is proven a game or match is fixed, the participants are penalized banned or sentenced. Just because you are in a position to fix the match doesn't make it right.

Neorules what would convince you that the Sisters donot fix their matches. I mean what could they say? Is there anything? Do you really want to believe anything they have to say? :confused:

TSequoia01
Jul 5th, 2002, 01:54 AM
Originally posted by Bright Red
It baffles me that you hear that same comment everywhere. I agree that it's just that there's nothing else to say (apart from giving the Sisters their due).

Donot be baffled Bright Red there is a compaign being waged against the Sisters. Ray Charles can see this one. Three out of four slam finals is a bit much for some folks. It is about power plain and simple. :cool:

neorules
Jul 5th, 2002, 05:22 AM
All I'm looking for is that each of them give the best effort that they can. If that happens some high level tennis should be seen. Hopefully there won't be a repeat of the tank in Key Biscayne.

supremeross
Jul 5th, 2002, 03:12 PM
Jealousy. Plain and simple, old fashion jealousy. Venus and Serena have accomplished feats that Chris Everet and her sister never even dreamed about. Now Venus and Serena are the top players and winning grand slams consistently. She's got to find some way to belittle and throw dirt on their accomplishments.

Helen Lawson
Jul 5th, 2002, 03:32 PM
Chris and McEnroe also brought up the "she plays like a man" and "half a man" comments made by Davenport and Hingis over 3 years ago yesterday during the Mauresmo match. If the match-fixing topic is tired, the "half a man" topic belongs in a museum next to some fossils. They will talk about anything to fill air time no matter how inane.

TSequoia01
Jul 5th, 2002, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by Helen Lawson
Chris and McEnroe also brought up the "she plays like a man" and "half a man" comments made by Davenport and Hingis over 3 years ago yesterday during the Mauresmo match. If the match-fixing topic is tired, the "half a man" topic belongs in a museum next to some fossils. They will talk about anything to fill air time no matter how inane.

Helen you just cannot compare the two. The "She plays like a man" or the "half a man" comments are juvenile while being accused of match fixing is libel.

:cool:

Helen Lawson
Jul 5th, 2002, 04:51 PM
It's slander, libel is written. Stating or writing that there have been accusations or suspicions of match-fixing is true. Therefore, it is neither slander nor libel. One of their own family members has stated that at least one match was fixed. The fact he made the statement is true. Therefore, reporting on it and that there is a controversy about it and that some believe the matches to be fixed is 100% true. It does not expose one to civil liability to state what one believes. I can say anything I want about anyone to the public if I preface it with that it is my own belief or my own opinion.

TSequoia01
Jul 5th, 2002, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by Helen Lawson
It's slander, libel is written. Stating or writing that there have been accusations or suspicions of match-fixing is true. Therefore, it is neither slander nor libel. One of their own family members has stated that at least one match was fixed. The fact he made the statement is true. Therefore, reporting on it and that there is a controversy about it and that some believe the matches to be fixed is 100% true. It does not expose one to civil liability to state what one believes. I can say anything I want about anyone to the public if I preface it with that it is my own belief or my own opinion.

I stand corrected on the Legality of it all. Just let me say then it's irresponsible. To get on national media and spew accusations with no basis in fact. To say I believe that the matches were predetermined and not say why, or give evidence that formed that belief is unbelieveable. Anyone can say or do that with no real basis in fact. As far as that National Enquirer article, if it was true, where are the charges? You mean the WTA did not check that out? Come on!

Helen Lawson
Jul 5th, 2002, 05:22 PM
I think the allegations are stupid as well. They are old and tired. Personally, I do not think they fix matches and most people I think do not think they are fixed either. It is yet another thing the media and others constantly report on because it might make headlines.