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Mother_Marjorie
May 23rd, 2007, 11:37 PM
Cheney's lesbian daughter gives birth

'This is a blessing from God. It is not a political statement'

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Posted: May 23, 2007
4:38 p.m. Eastern

Vice President Dick Cheney and his wife, Lynne, beam with pride as they hold their 6th grandchild, Samuel David Cheney

Mary Cheney, the lesbian daughter of Vice President Dick Cheney, became a mother today when she gave birth to a baby boy.

Samuel David Cheney was born at 9:46 a.m., weighing 8 pounds, 6 ounces, at Sibley Hospital in Washington, D.C.

Samuel is the sixth grandchild for Vice President Cheney.

"The vice president is pleased to be a grandfather for the sixth time," spokeswoman Megan McGinn said.

According to reports, Mary's homosexual partner of 15 years, Heather Poe, "will have no legal relationship with her child. She can't adopt as a second parent. She won't have her name on the birth certificate."


Mary Cheney's pregnancy caused a stir with traditional family activists, including James Dobson, chairman of Colorado-based Focus on the Family.

"We should not enter into yet another untested and far-reaching social experiment, this one driven by the desires of same-sex couples to bear and raise children," Dobson said last December. He said his position was not intended to "harm or insult women such as Cheney and Poe."

At a New York forum last winter, Mary Cheney said: "This is a baby. This is a blessing from God. It is not a political statement. It is not a prop to be used in a debate by people on either side of an issue. It is my child." But she added that "every piece of remotely responsible research" had shown "no difference between children who are raised by same-sex parents and children raised by opposite-sex parents."

Cheney has been with Poe for 15 years, and the couple has not disclosed how Mary became pregnant.

President Bush told People magazine in December that Mary Cheney would be "a loving soul to her child."

The remark came in response to a question about his 2005 comment to the New York Times, as he noted: "I believe children can receive love from gay couples but the ideal is – and studies have shown that the ideal is where a child is raised in a married family with a man and a woman."

"The vice president took me aside and gave me the good news. He and his wife, Lynne, are very happy for Mary," Bush said. "I think Mary is going to be a loving soul to her child. And I'm happy for her."

Pureracket
May 23rd, 2007, 11:44 PM
http://www.drudgereport.com/

Pureracket
May 23rd, 2007, 11:47 PM
.......Who will grow up to be a good Republican and work hard to deny his mother basic civil rights. He'll go to church and call her a sinner who has been touched by SATAN....!!!

Mother_Marjorie
May 23rd, 2007, 11:50 PM
.......Who will grow up to be a good Republican and work hard to deny his mother basic civil rights. He'll go to church and call her a sinner who has been touched by SATAN....!!!
Its pretty sad that someone spends their entire existance fixated on being either a Republican or Democrat. You know who I'm talking about, those "touched" ones who take the birth of a child, and attempt to turn it into something ugly and political....the same thing that Mary Cheney fights against.

Your soul is doomed to hell. There is nothing about you that is good.

Pureracket
May 24th, 2007, 12:09 AM
Its pretty sad that someone spends their entire existance fixated on being either a Republican or Democrat. You know who I'm talking about, those "touched" ones who take the birth of a child, and attempt to turn it into something ugly and political....the same thing that Mary Cheney fights against.

Your soul is doomed to hell. There is nothing about you that is good.Oh, please....you and Mary and Dick can go to hell. This current administration has done more to polarize "marginalized" people than any other. Hell, one of the primary issues of the entire election was Mary's own party denying the rights of people just like her.

....and your "Greater than Thou" ass knows nothing of the finality of my soul. Go and spew your hate and your fearmongering rhetoric somewhere else, babe.

Infiniti2001
May 24th, 2007, 02:15 AM
'This is a blessing from God. It is not a political statement'

The hell it is :lol: Why are Darth and Ice Lady posing with the kid? Where are it's parents? :shrug::help:

tennislover
May 24th, 2007, 02:17 AM
:awww::cool:
sweet cub

Pureracket
May 24th, 2007, 09:07 PM
The hell it is :lol: Why are Darth and Ice Lady posing with the kid? Where are it's parents? :shrug::help::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:I heard somebody else referring to this man as "Darth" today. Ya'll need to stop.....lol.

samsung101
May 24th, 2007, 09:46 PM
6 grandkids.

The other daughter has 5 kids?

Wow.

Busy women there.

How come the partner isn't sharing the name?
Heck, old Brangelina hyphenated the name for
the adopted and natural kids. Legally, they can
do it w/o any problem at all. You can name your
kid whatever you want, and give guardianship and
joint custody to whomever you wish.




The Cheney's have had an openly gay daughter for what, 20 years now.


They've spoken of it for years.
I never get why so many pounce on them for
this. The guy is a Republican with a gay
daughter who lives a private life. Big deal.
If it's cool w/his kid, it's fine w/me.

His personal position has never changed either.

He personally doesn't have a big problem with gay marriage,
but, does think it is up to each state to decide. Is not a big
backer of the const. amendment pushed by Bush. He favors civil
unions, as does Bush.

Pretty much the same position old Bill and Hillary Clinton have had for
years.


With all due respect, the daughter has achieved a great deal in her career,
in her personal life, and lives her life as she pleases. Good for her.

Say what you will about old Dicky, his love for his family, and theirs for
him is genuine. Just stay away from hunting with the little one Dick.

griffin
May 24th, 2007, 09:54 PM
You know who I'm talking about, those "touched" ones who take the birth of a child, and attempt to turn it into something ugly and political....the same thing that Mary Cheney fights against.


Oh please. I wholeheartedly agree that a child shouldn't be used as a political football, but Mary Cheney has been more than happy to let her personal life be exploited for political purposes. She's done it herself, and she's let her father's political campaigns, the Bush administration, and previous employers (like Coors Brewing) do it as well. So I don't have a lot of sympathy, and I don't think her critics should be held to a standard she won't hold for herself.

Live by the sword....

But congratulations to the whole family, and I hope when the buzz wears off that they have the brains to protect this precious child and move to a less anti-gay state.

Pureracket
May 25th, 2007, 01:30 AM
Oh please. I wholeheartedly agree that a child shouldn't be used as a political football, but Mary Cheney has been more than happy to let her personal life be exploited for political purposes. She's done it herself, and she's let her father's political campaigns, the Bush administration, and previous employers (like Coors Brewing) do it as well. So I don't have a lot of sympathy, and I don't think her critics should be held to a standard she won't hold for herself.

Live by the sword....

But congratulations to the whole family, and I hope when the buzz wears off that they have the brains to protect this precious child and move to a less anti-gay state.:worship::worship::worship::worship::worship :

Scotso
May 25th, 2007, 01:43 AM
Why are Darth and Ice Lady posing with the kid? Where are it's parents? :shrug::help:

Surely you're not suggesting we put pictures of those queers and their bastard child out there for all to see?

Mother_Marjorie
May 25th, 2007, 02:09 AM
Oh please. I wholeheartedly agree that a child shouldn't be used as a political football, but Mary Cheney has been more than happy to let her personal life be exploited for political purposes. She's done it herself, and she's let her father's political campaigns, the Bush administration, and previous employers (like Coors Brewing) do it as well. So I don't have a lot of sympathy, and I don't think her critics should be held to a standard she won't hold for herself.

Live by the sword....

But congratulations to the whole family, and I hope when the buzz wears off that they have the brains to protect this precious child and move to a less anti-gay state.
I think what most bed-wetting liberals would prefer is that Mary Cheney be defiant, reject her parents, put on a pair of Birkenstocks, move to Canada and protest.

However, even in the most conservative families, where gays aren't "kept in the closet" it is love that prevails. And the Cheney's have obviously embraced their daughter, partner and newest grandchild, in spite of their political opponents who would rather drive a wedge between their family than celebrate the diversity they so claim to embrace.

I guess you didn't get the memo, but their are gays that live and thrive, even in the most conservative parts of the country. Case in point, the creation of a Gay and Lesbian Community Center ten years ago in the heart of the redneck Ozarks, only blocks away from the National Headquarters of the National Assemblies of God.

Whatever state Mary Cheney's daughter is raised in will be okay as long as that child is loved, by its mother, surrogate mother, grandparents, cousins, aunts and uncles. That's all that ultimately matters. Not what Griffin thinks.

Mother_Marjorie
May 25th, 2007, 02:12 AM
6 grandkids.

The other daughter has 5 kids?

Wow.

Busy women there.

How come the partner isn't sharing the name?
Heck, old Brangelina hyphenated the name for
the adopted and natural kids. Legally, they can
do it w/o any problem at all. You can name your
kid whatever you want, and give guardianship and
joint custody to whomever you wish.




The Cheney's have had an openly gay daughter for what, 20 years now.


They've spoken of it for years.
I never get why so many pounce on them for
this. The guy is a Republican with a gay
daughter who lives a private life. Big deal.
If it's cool w/his kid, it's fine w/me.

His personal position has never changed either.

He personally doesn't have a big problem with gay marriage,
but, does think it is up to each state to decide. Is not a big
backer of the const. amendment pushed by Bush. He favors civil
unions, as does Bush.

Pretty much the same position old Bill and Hillary Clinton have had for
years.


With all due respect, the daughter has achieved a great deal in her career,
in her personal life, and lives her life as she pleases. Good for her.

Say what you will about old Dicky, his love for his family, and theirs for
him is genuine. Just stay away from hunting with the little one Dick.
Sam, do you get the feeling that some of these people resent the fact that Mary Cheney gets full support from her parents about her sexuality and her decisions on how she chooses to live her life?

Perhaps they are jealous, because they've not been able to achieve that type of acceptance, even within the most liberal of families?

Pureracket
May 25th, 2007, 01:55 PM
Sam, do you get the feeling that some of these people resent the fact that Mary Cheney gets full support from her parents about her sexuality and her decisions on how she chooses to live her life?

Perhaps they are jealous, because they've not been able to achieve that type of acceptance, even within the most liberal of families?I'm sure you, even with your deluded mind, don't believe this.

griffin
May 25th, 2007, 02:39 PM
I guess you didn't get the memo, but their are gays that live and thrive, even in the most conservative parts of the country. Case in point, the creation of a Gay and Lesbian Community Center ten years ago in the heart of the redneck Ozarks, only blocks away from the National Headquarters of the National Assemblies of God.

Oh, I'm quite familiar with the concept of lgbt people living in conservative parts of the country - I used to be one of them.

If you'd stop trying to look tough and defiant long enough to think, you'd realize that the policies of the administration - and the companies - Mary Cheney has worked for have made life for queers in conservative areas and everywhere else a lot more hostile.

And I'm quite happy for Mary that her parents accept and respect her, at least in private, and that they're willing to pose for pictures with their grandchild. It just seems a bit hollow to me that they don't love their daughter and grandchild enough to speak out against laws that prevent the boy from having any legal relationship with Mom Heather, and in the case of Virginia, prevents his parents from having ANY legal or even contracted relationship (VA law specifically states that any agreement between a same-sex couples that tries to mimic marriage - forget marriage and civil unions, it explicitly rejects domestic partnerships of any type.)

You'd think they'd be willing to at least say that's unfair.

Knizzle
May 25th, 2007, 02:46 PM
.......Who will grow up to be a good Republican and work hard to deny his mother basic civil rights. He'll go to church and call her a sinner who has been touched by SATAN....!!!Someone said that to you before?

griffin
May 25th, 2007, 05:57 PM
It's been said to me. Variants thereof - not just that I'm a sinner or that lesbianism is abhorrent to god, but that my being gay is the devil's work. I've had it screamed at me, and "explained" calmly.

Can't speak to the political affiliation of the people in question though.

Helen Lawson
May 25th, 2007, 06:45 PM
The hell it is :lol: Why are Darth and Ice Lady posing with the kid? Where are it's parents? :shrug::help:


The few pictures of Mary Cheney that I've seen, she's henious. I think that's half the reason she's not in a lot of these "official" photos. I mean, she makes your Rosies and Martinas look like lipstick lesbians!

griffin
May 25th, 2007, 06:47 PM
No kidding, she and Candace Gingrich are pictured in the dictionary under the "bad lesbian hair" entry :lol:

Helen Lawson
May 25th, 2007, 06:51 PM
No kidding, she and Candace Gingrich are pictured in the dictionary under the "bad lesbian hair" entry :lol:


The one I saw of her, she had a mullet! And not a good complexion, either.

I wonder, if she was totally hot, like Anjelina Jolie hot, would she be in more photos, or not.

samsung101
May 25th, 2007, 06:54 PM
The 'policies' of this administration?

Which one?

What signed law, bill, has the Bush-Cheney Administration
made into law that affected gay Americans any differently
than pre-January 2001?

Zero.

He has not signed one gay related bill from Congress. Zero.

He's a Republican.
For many gays, that's enough to label him Satan w/o doing anything
at all. But, his record is rather blank on gay issues.

But, Clinton-Gore didn't do much.
RINO Arnold isn't doing much here.
Congress ain't doing much, and hasn't been.


When the San Francisco Mayor defied the law of California,
ratified in approval again by the liberal voters of California -
to stay with the male-female marriage law only - the feds did
not interfere. That was the State that took it to court, and
the court, said, stop it Mayor.The law is still on the books
in California. Ditto for other states.

Bush only said he approves of and supports the grassroots
movement for a Const. male-female marriage amendment only.
Because each and every state would then have to say yes or
no to it. Letting each state have a voice.

The Marriage Act of the 90's.

That was William Jefferson Clinton.

He could have vetoed that bill, he did not.
He signed it, and campaigned on it.
For all his promises and gleeful approval
from the gay political community, Bill
signed the law.
Don't Ask, Don't Tell - he approved it to
continue, and defended it for years.




If anything, the policies of this administration have
been tremendously oblivous to most gay issues.

Cheney's openly gay daughter worked on his campaign as
a person - not as THE openly gay daughter, her partner is
with her as her all the time, and is presented and accepted
by all as her life long partner. Bush has quite a few openly
gay personnel in the White House, including in the State Dept.
and White House. He just doesn't publicize it much, because
that's not why they were hired. They were hired on talent.

Isn't that what we're aiming for?

What tv show, movie, radio, star, etc. has been told to stay in
the closet because of George W. Bush? No one. If anything, as has
been the pattern for years, the gay Hollywood/entertainment players,
actors, producers, scripts, top films, etc. have increased, not decreased
in this so called era of attacks on freedom of expression.

Pureracket
May 25th, 2007, 07:37 PM
But, Clinton-Gore didn't do much.
. Republican mantra, "....bu,.....bu,.....but Clinton did it."

Pureracket
May 25th, 2007, 07:42 PM
Someone said that to you before?Yes.

Knizzle
May 25th, 2007, 07:49 PM
Yes.LOL, damn!

Knizzle
May 25th, 2007, 07:56 PM
It's been said to me. Variants thereof - not just that I'm a sinner or that lesbianism is abhorrent to god, but that my being gay is the devil's work. I've had it screamed at me, and "explained" calmly.

Can't speak to the political affiliation of the people in question though.I'm sorry you had to go through that, I hope at least a few of those people were in their right mind.