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JackWalker
May 18th, 2007, 05:30 AM
I read this report on yahoo and had some questions I hope some of you are able to answer. I have a illegal friend in college, so I'm hoping for the best. Here's the article:

"The proposed agreement would allow illegal immigrants to come forward and obtain a "Z visa" and after paying fees and a $5,000 fine ultimately get on track for permanent residency, which could take between eight and 13 years. Heads of households would have to return to their home countries first."

1. Does anyone know how much these "fees" would cost? Ballpark?
2. "Heads of households would have to return to their home countries first." Can someone explain that sentence please? What makes someone the head of the household? Why would they have to return to their home country first?
3. My college friend, 20, has been in the US illegally since he was 7. He came from another country with a Visa, but stayed in the US once it expired. He has no green card, but does have a social security and driver's liscence. His social security says "not valid for work" but some of the places he applied for did not ask him for it, so he didn't have to show it. He has always payed his taxes. Like I mentioned, he is going to the same University I am. So, what do you guys think will end up happening to my friend if this law passes?

samsung101
May 18th, 2007, 04:48 PM
The USA right?
Anyone can enter at any time w/o any penalty....that's pretty much the way things go.

Return to home countries first? That's nice language put in by Ted Kennedy and John McCain -
two huge blowhards - to appease people. See, they have to go home first...sure, they do.

It will never hold, never pass that way.

No, it will be made easier.


Then again, your friend is here illegally.
He should probably go home.
Any other nation in the world would do that.

But, the USA, come on over...all you idiots and dolts actually waiting in line
to enter legally around the world....hoping to achieve a dream by getting here...
why follow the law. You have a better shot of doing it illegally.

There are laws, but, hey, who pays attention to them? No one.

Stay around long enough, and you'll get amnesty with a handshake.

You can get tons of free benefits right now being illegal.

If you don't like your name or social security number, just buy another
one at the local corner or DMV office in the parking lot.

fufuqifuqishahah
May 18th, 2007, 05:06 PM
how stressful it must be to live in a country illegally

Philbo
May 18th, 2007, 05:09 PM
How did he get into a university course as an illegal citizen?

Samsung - Boo HOO.

Infiniti2001
May 18th, 2007, 05:34 PM
Tell your friend to see an attorney ASAP.

woosey
May 18th, 2007, 05:41 PM
how stressful it must be to live in a country illegally


it is a choice they made. people always forget this part.

selesfan1
May 18th, 2007, 10:06 PM
Well, your friend being 7 probably wasn't a choice. To answer the question many people can enroll in a university becasue many have abandoned the social security number thing because of security concerns. He really should see an attorney.

JackWalker
May 19th, 2007, 08:23 AM
How did he get into a university course as an illegal citizen?

Samsung - Boo HOO.

He has an id, drivers's liscence, and social security. He also went to a very prestigious high school in southern California. I think there is a law at the University which allows people who have been in the US for longer than 10 years, and completed high school in the US, to attend eventhough the may be illegal.

JackWalker
May 19th, 2007, 08:25 AM
thanks for all the answers guys. i talked to him yesterday and he said he is definetely going to see an attorney. can someone please answer questions 1 and 2? thank you.

kiwifan
May 19th, 2007, 02:22 PM
thanks for all the answers guys. i talked to him yesterday and he said he is definetely going to see an attorney. can someone please answer questions 1 and 2? thank you.

1 and 2 aren't things that have been finalized/put into practice so just skip to the "see an attorney" stage :p...

...as some cynics have stated, I doubt paying (there will be 'hardship' exceptions added over time ;) ) or leaving the country (after enough stories of cute little babies crying as their illegal Mommies leave them behind :rolleyes: ) will be enforced.