One would think that he had learnt better from his initial row with Islam, but apparently not...
Anger at Pope's Brazil comments
Indigenous leaders in Brazil have reacted angrily to Pope Benedict's comments that their predecessors had willingly converted to Christianity.
One Amazon Indian leader, Jecinaldo Satere Mawe, said the Pope's remarks had been arrogant and disrespectful.
Pope Benedict XVI told Latin American bishops in Brazil that American Indians had been "silently longing" to become Christians 500 years ago. :tape:
The Pope has now returned home after his five-day trip to Brazil.
The Vatican has made no further comment.
The BBC's Emilio San Pedro said the Pope had said the Christianisation of the region had not involved an alienation of the pre-Colombian cultures. :eek:
Our correspondent said Pope Benedict also made no mention of the violent history that followed or the documented decimation of native cultures in favour of the Christian model Conquistadores and other Europeans colonisers.
He said the comments had even been criticised by the Catholic Church's Indian advocacy group in Brazil, which described the Pope's statement as wrong and indefensible.
May 16th, 2007, 11:13 AM
He is the pope and not some member of a leftist party.
For God's sake. :rolleyes:
May 16th, 2007, 11:35 AM
He was basically saying the truth. As for those who complain they can leave the church anytime they want to. So they should stop shedding their crocodile tears.
May 16th, 2007, 11:47 AM
^^Most of them are leaving anyway; the Protestant church is rapidly growing in South America.
May 16th, 2007, 01:26 PM
what is funny is Protestant church seems more fundementalist then the catholic church. Say what you want to about Pope Benedict, he is no way as rigid as Falwell and Sharpton. The protestants are converting more than Catholics or at least that seems to be the case. Obviously their praying is more 'hip' then that of Catholics but their leaders are more forceful and have a less humanist message. Many of them don't believe that they should turn the other cheek if they are struck on the other one. Actually now that I think about it the protestants may not be so bad after all.
May 16th, 2007, 06:05 PM
Sharpton - rigid?
Falwell and Sharpton - that's an odd duo to use for comparison for
Falwell led a Baptist congregation, from the ground up, formed a PAC, formed
a university, and moved into many mainstream avenues in politics and business
and education. Like him or hate him, the guy was never afraid to speak, or
guest on a show or medium, he stood by what he said, and if wrong, backed down.
The guys heyday was in the 80's. I am amused to see so many fixated on him as if
in 2007 he was The Pope. He was a Baptist preacher with a big following, not much
more. He made a lot of money, but, most of it went back into the university and
church in comparison to what he could have kept.
Sharpton, rigid and fundamentalist? Really, where? He's a politician. A social activist.
The guy ran for President. He runs a church and PAC. He's Jesse Jackson's #1 foe on most things.
A writer and speechmaker, and a very wealthy man. His personal life is not exactly rigid and
fundamentalistic....... He's a political activist and corporate spokesman.
The Pope is more like Sharpton than Falwell. The Pope will promote sheltering of illegal aliens,
bashing the USA, while being silent on Iran, North Korea, China, etc. He'll bash the death penalty,
and yet be silent on genocide in Darfur and China and Tibet and elsewhere.
The Pope went there to try to remind Brazil it is a largely Catholic nation.
One where the Church did in fact impose a faith upon those who did not ask for it
originally...by force in large part. There are many wrongs the Church did then,
and does now.
However, it also did a great deal of good- then, and it does now.
This Pope, right or wrong, has a tendency to put his foot in his mouth,
and then later on to retreat somehow with a phrase to mullify what he said.
Actually, Islam is moving fast around the world, including South America.
Evangelical faiths are also growing among Latinos worldwide, in the USA
among illegal aliens, it grows very fast. It allows some to finally look
at something beyond what they felt was their mandated faith. Many stay,
Why should he try to be a role model for political correctness? That's not his job.
He's to spread the message of The Catholic Church, raise awareness about abortion,
raise money for The Church...etc.
If he would go after the pedophiles in the Church, I'd say he was on the right track.
Until then,he's just doing what all Popes do.....
May 16th, 2007, 06:07 PM
It is a shame the news media did not give the Brazil visit much
Then again, the media here doesn't give anything of value much coverage.
We're too busy getting Paris Hilton and Brett Farve stories....and not
enough on Iraq War progress/setbacks, record revenue from taxes, Kansas
tornado problems, Florida fires, or illegal alien bills in Congress. No,
we get Anna Nicole Smith ad nauseum, and she's dead already.
May 16th, 2007, 06:25 PM
Surprised to see you praise Sharpton, Samsung. The guy has veered to the far left. Though he also is a black nationalist. yes, I do think that Falwell had some rigid ideals but he also was a great leader. So my opinion on him is mixed. I certainly prefer him to Sharpton. But I prefer Jesse Jackson, Bill Graham and Pat Robertson to him. I have great respect for Robertson....Even Louis Farrakhan is not so bad. He is hated by the wahhabists snd is a moderate who has reformist ideas. Oh and an enemy of the wahhabists is a friend of mine. :lol:
Islam is not the fastest growing religion in South America. Don't scare us Sammy. ;)