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drake3781
May 16th, 2007, 09:59 AM
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Strange bedfellows : A wolf and a donkey share a cage in the northwestern town of Patok in Albania, about 40 km from the capital Tirana. The donkey was brought into the enclosure to be fed to the wolf, which was caught in the northern Albanian mountains four months ago. The animals have since become attached to each other, cohabitating in the cage for the last 16 days.(AFP/Gent Shkullaku)

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I saw this strange story, and wondered, "What kind of place is Albania?"

Why are they capturing a wolf? Why would they try to feed a donkey to it? They both look miserable.

What do I know about Albania? Nothing, except the name of the capital.

Tell me things about Albania here, please.

Brett.
May 16th, 2007, 10:08 AM
Albania is a country between Spain and France. It is a very tiny country which same size as Liecherstein! ;)

Hayato
May 16th, 2007, 10:13 AM
Albania is a country between Spain and France. It is a very tiny country which same size as Liecherstein! ;)

:lol: That's Andorra ;)

Albania is above Greece but below Serbia...and next to Macedonia. It has a coastline on the west. It's one of the poorest countries in Europe, if not the poorest. But I think it has nice scenery...

James
May 16th, 2007, 10:49 AM
Albania is a country between Spain and France. It is a very tiny country which same size as Liecherstein! ;)

Maybe you better do your research before replying, Brett.


There is lots of info available:

Wikipedia (with lots of subarticles there):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albania

Albanian tourist organization:

http://www.albaniantourism.com/

Johno_uk
May 16th, 2007, 10:51 AM
Albania USED to be the poorest country in Europe, but it has had its title stolen!!
-By Moldova :rolleyes:

In Albania they speak Albanian :shocked:
It is the only majority muslim country in Europe. (Bosnia is about 50/50 muslim/ christian).

If you go to Greece you will be pestered by Albanian beggers, and they will try to 'wash' your car if you stop at traffic lights. If you sit in a cafe, kids about 5 years old, will come up to you with notes (in English) saying stuff like "My mother is dead, and I have leukemia. Please give me money".

The scenery is quite mountainous- I saw it from a plane.

FORZA SARITA
May 16th, 2007, 11:38 AM
Albania is a country between Spain and France. It is a very tiny country which same size as Liecherstein! ;)

:spit::haha::haha::spit::haha:

CooCooCachoo
May 16th, 2007, 11:40 AM
Albania is a country between Spain and France. It is a very tiny country which same size as Liecherstein! ;)

OMFG :spit:

:rolls:

Shoulderpova
May 16th, 2007, 11:43 AM
:lol:

Lord Nelson
May 16th, 2007, 12:53 PM
Albania has a semi-feudal system. It is one of the poorest nations of Europe. Maybe only Moldova is poorer then it. But since it is close to western europe and EU nations and has a small population, the standard of living of its citizens can improve substantially within 10 years.

Albania is 70% Muslim. state It used to be an isolationist stalinist state like North Korea under its lunatic leader, Hoxha. Its national hero is Skanderberg a Christian who converted to Islam and then back to Chrisitanity in 15th Century and who is a national hero for Albanians as well as Mother Theresa who actually was a Macedonian of Albanian heritage. It borders Kosovo whose people are Albanians but who speak a different dialect of Albanian and would rather have independance from Serbia as well as not merge with Albania. Kosovo will be like Taiwan, independant in all but name.
Oh and Jim Belushi has Albanian heritage.

Just Do It
May 16th, 2007, 01:24 PM
Albania :help:

ce
May 16th, 2007, 01:41 PM
albania is :lol: and:help:

Princeza
May 16th, 2007, 03:08 PM
Albania is a country between Spain and France. It is a very tiny country which same size as Liecherstein! ;)

Wow this is beyond what i could imagine reading here.

Hortie
May 16th, 2007, 03:16 PM
I visited Albania many years ago. It is a starkly beautiful country with lovely people. (And, of course, those Albanian bunkers are quite a sight to see.) Yes, it is quite poor. Hopefully, someday I will return.

V-MAC
May 16th, 2007, 05:21 PM
Albanians are suddenly popular in Ireland for giving us our only points in the Eurovision :lol:

Slumpsova
May 16th, 2007, 05:30 PM
can anyone give me some example of Albanian names? is it similar to Serbs name? you know like, -ic, -a :shrug:

Bart
May 16th, 2007, 05:37 PM
Albania is a country between Spain and France. It is a very tiny country which same size as Liecherstein! ;)

OMG :rolls:

Brαm
May 16th, 2007, 05:41 PM
Albania is a country between Spain and France. It is a very tiny country which same size as Liecherstein! ;)
:Liecherstein: :weirdo:

James
May 16th, 2007, 06:11 PM
:Liecherstein: :weirdo:

I can add that Andorra is 468 km2, while Liechtenstein is only 160.4 km2, so he got the same size thing wrong too.

CooCooCachoo
May 16th, 2007, 06:20 PM
I can add that Andorra is 468 km2, while Liechtenstein is only 160.4 km2, so he got the same size thing wrong too.

All in all, his post was one of the most intelligent ones ever made on TWATWorld, already not famous for its intellectual posters. :worship:

Lachrymarum
May 16th, 2007, 06:49 PM
Albania is a country between Spain and France. It is a very tiny country which same size as Liecherstein! ;)
I thought it was located in the U.S. - next to Mississippi?
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CooCooCachoo
May 16th, 2007, 06:51 PM
Isn't Albania the country where people with very pale skin and red eyes live?

:shrug: :scratch:

Bart
May 16th, 2007, 07:02 PM
Oh and here's some Albanian music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aPH4EM1MlY
:drool:

Just Do It
May 16th, 2007, 08:53 PM
He is from Australia, i can forgive him :angel:

QuicKyMonSter
May 16th, 2007, 08:59 PM
Albania is a country between Spain and France. It is a very tiny country which same size as Liecherstein! ;)
:o

If I were you I wouldn't read through this thread...:lol:
damn, maybe it's too late :awww:

Hayato
May 16th, 2007, 10:25 PM
Oh and here's some Albanian music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aPH4EM1MlY
:drool:

My 2nd favourite Eurovision song ever! :drool: But not the best performance :lol: Ledina is really a model not a singer :p

antonella
May 16th, 2007, 10:34 PM
I thought Albania was located in Middle-earth, bordering Mordor??

Serena-rules-no1
May 16th, 2007, 10:39 PM
I visited Albania many years ago. It is a starkly beautiful country with lovely people. (And, of course, those Albanian bunkers are quite a sight to see.) Yes, it is quite poor. Hopefully, someday I will return.

you'd be welcomed :)

Albanians are suddenly popular in Ireland for giving us our only points in the Eurovision :lol:

I heard also in Spain for giving them the 12 points
:p

can anyone give me some example of Albanian names? is it similar to Serbs name? you know like, -ic, -a :shrug:

nothing similar to serbian names, we're not slavic

typical names: Alban :shrug:, Ilir, Arber, Genti;

Serena-rules-no1
May 16th, 2007, 10:41 PM
Isn't Albania the country where people with very pale skin and red eyes live?

:shrug: :scratch:

O RLY?
it's not like you havent seen my pic Tijn :rolleyes:

Just Do It
May 16th, 2007, 10:46 PM
Great thread.

Why :scratch:

Slumpsova
May 16th, 2007, 10:57 PM
you'd be welcomed :)



I heard also in Spain for giving them the 12 points
:p



nothing similar to serbian names, we're not slavic

typical names: Alban :shrug:, Ilir, Arber, Genti;
wow there is Albanian poster here :eek:
cool!

Serena-rules-no1
May 16th, 2007, 11:03 PM
wow there is Albanian poster here :eek:
cool!

wow, there's internet connection in our poor country :bounce:

Slumpsova
May 16th, 2007, 11:08 PM
wow, there's internet connection in our poor country :bounce:
i didn't mean that :rolleyes:
i must be surprised as well to see a poster from Uruguay, not b/c i'm not sure if there is internet connection in Montevideo but it's b/c i've never seen one before.

Serena-rules-no1
May 16th, 2007, 11:20 PM
i didn't mean that :rolleyes:
i must be surprised as well to see a poster from Uruguay, not b/c i'm not sure if there is internet connection in Montevideo but it's b/c i've never seen one before.

i was kidding of course ;)

Cat's Pajamas
May 16th, 2007, 11:55 PM
O RLY?
it's not like you havent seen my pic Tijn :rolleyes:

I think he was referring to Brettle's stupidty because albino's are pale and have red eyes, and Albino and Albania look alike in their spelling :o :)

Josh
May 17th, 2007, 12:27 AM
Oooh an Albanian in this thread with my old avatar! That must mean Albanians have good taste and a sense of humour! :yeah:

Serena-rules-no1
May 17th, 2007, 01:45 AM
Oooh an Albanian in this thread with my old avatar! That must mean Albanians have good taste and a sense of humour! :yeah:

only a small part of them :o

LoveFifteen
May 17th, 2007, 03:06 AM
Scarecrows, what is Albanian dick like? :drool:

drake3781
May 17th, 2007, 06:36 AM
wow, there's internet connection in our poor country :bounce:

Why do they do this strange and cruel thing with these animals, in your country? Do the people approve, and the laws allow it? :confused: :shrug:

CooCooCachoo
May 17th, 2007, 07:44 AM
O RLY?
it's not like you havent seen my pic Tijn :rolleyes:

Genci :haha: :hug:

CooCooCachoo
May 17th, 2007, 07:45 AM
Scarecrows, what is Albanian dick like? :drool:

:spit:

Serena-rules-no1
May 17th, 2007, 08:17 AM
Scarecrows, what is Albanian dick like? :drool:

you gotta try it to believe its awesomeness

Why do they do this strange and cruel thing with these animals, in your country? Do the people approve, and the laws allow it? :confused: :shrug:

there are many upsetting things happening here and giving a donkey for food to a wolf isnt something to worry about

Slumpsova
May 17th, 2007, 08:25 AM
you gotta try it to believe its awesomeness



there are many upsetting things happening here and giving a donkey for food to a wolf isnt something to worry about
like what?

Brett.
May 17th, 2007, 08:36 AM
:lol: That's Andorra ;)

Albania is above Greece but below Serbia...and next to Macedonia. It has a coastline on the west. It's one of the poorest countries in Europe, if not the poorest. But I think it has nice scenery...

Thank You! :kiss: I always get mixed up with countries which starts with "A" in Europe! :o

:spit::haha::haha:

:ras:

OMFG :spit:

:rolls:

:ras:

Wow this is beyond what i could imagine reading here.

Well, you're next-door neighbour to Andorra, and Australia (I'm from Melbourne) is way too far from Europe - Around 24 hours on flight! :p

OMG :rolls:

I certainly respect that! :p

All in all, his post was one of the most intelligent ones ever made on TWATWorld, already not famous for its intellectual posters. :worship:

:o :o

He is from Australia, i can forgive him :angel:

Thank You! :kiss:

Bart
May 17th, 2007, 09:59 AM
My 2nd favourite Eurovision song ever! :drool: But not the best performance :lol: Ledina is really a model not a singer :p

No, she doesn't have the best voice:lol: But I liked the song and the performance:p

Just Do It
May 17th, 2007, 11:21 AM
Scarecrows, what is Albanian dick like?

:haha: God, no !

drake3781
May 17th, 2007, 08:08 PM
like what?


Yes, like what? I'm curious.

And I still want to know what's up with that wolf and donkey. :p

overhanddiva
May 17th, 2007, 08:13 PM
They are lovers!!! Umm the donkey looks a little sickly.

SloKid
May 18th, 2007, 10:03 AM
Albania is a country between Spain and France. It is a very tiny country which same size as Liecherstein! ;)
You keep on surprising us every day. :haha:
Your potential is endless it seems.

Brett.
May 18th, 2007, 10:24 AM
Scarecrows, what is Albanian dick like? :drool:

I met a guy from Georgia and his dick is just :drool:. So i must they would be the same as Albandian. :kiss:

James
May 18th, 2007, 10:26 AM
I met a guy from Georgia and his dick is just :drool:. So i must they would be the same as Albandian. :kiss:

I almost read Nalbandian there. But it's Albanian. I am beginning to wonder now if this boy was from Georgia, USA and whether you know where Georgia is located.

Brett.
May 18th, 2007, 10:28 AM
I almost read Nalbandian there. But it's Albanian. I am beginning to wonder now if this boy was from Georgia, USA and whether you know where Georgia is located.

I know there is a state called "George in USA" but i'm talking about a country near Turkey! ;)

James
May 18th, 2007, 10:44 AM
I know there is a state called "George in USA" but i'm talking about a country near Turkey! ;)

George is the president, the state is Georgia. But you have the location of the country right this time.

Brett.
May 18th, 2007, 11:03 AM
Wtf? Why the hell that i said "George" anyway.

CooCooCachoo
May 18th, 2007, 11:51 AM
I met a guy from Georgia and his dick is just :drool:. So i must they would be the same as Albandian. :kiss:

Have you been home-schooled?

SloKid
May 18th, 2007, 12:44 PM
Have you been home-schooled?
Has he been schooled, period?

CooCooCachoo
May 18th, 2007, 01:37 PM
Has he been schooled, period?

I was going to add that, but I thought it was harsh :p

Slumpsova
May 18th, 2007, 01:53 PM
I met a guy from Georgia and his dick is just :drool:. So i must they would be the same as Albandian. :kiss:
would you please trying to recognize Albania? first Andorra and now this :rolleyes:
such an ignorant person :p

James
May 18th, 2007, 01:57 PM
would you please trying to recognize Albania? first Andorra and now this :rolleyes:
such an ignorant person :p

Your first sentence does not run all that smoothly either. :p

Just Do It
May 18th, 2007, 02:10 PM
This thread is funny :lol:

Qrystyna
May 18th, 2007, 02:23 PM
Albania's old president was sort of like a Kim Jong-Il type, I know that...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7XHDluJtS8

:tape:

©@®eLess
May 18th, 2007, 04:53 PM
This thread is funny :lol:

Hilarious :lol: :lol:

gumoll
May 18th, 2007, 05:00 PM
Albania is a country between Spain and France. It is a very tiny country which same size as Liecherstein! ;)
:rolls:

Serena-rules-no1
May 18th, 2007, 10:27 PM
Albania's old president was sort of like a Kim Jong-Il type, I know that...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7XHDluJtS8

:tape:

uncle Enver :awww:

Just Do It
May 18th, 2007, 10:33 PM
wow Albania is really popular here :eek:

tennismaster8820
May 18th, 2007, 10:43 PM
:haha: at this thread!
Nice posts Brett! :yeah:

Brett.
May 19th, 2007, 11:42 AM
Hey guys, What so funny about my first post? :shrug: It just a mistake :p! Everyone makes mistake and you got to respect that. To Slokid, You are extremely immature to me only when you post something which aren't true!

drake3781
May 27th, 2007, 06:44 AM
Here is something nice happening in Albania.

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20070524/i/r4245649658.jpg

A cat licks a puppy near the town of Mamurras, 50 km (31 miles) from Tirana, May 24, 2007. The cat, which had lost her kitten, started caring for the puppies after their mother was killed by a car. REUTERS/Arben Celi (ALBANIA)



http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20070524/capt.sge.gru38.240507233621.photo00.photo.default-357x512.jpg

Taking care : A cat nurses a puppy near the town of Mamurras, 50 km from capital Tirana.



http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20070524/i/r2794832599.jpg


http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20070524/i/r1653119617.jpg


That last picture is :lol:

Brett.
May 27th, 2007, 07:42 AM
Last pic, that dog is biting on a cat's nipple! :scared:

CrossCourt~Rally
May 27th, 2007, 07:52 AM
Thanks for bumping this thread back up. I missed it the first time around...:silly:

Slumpsova
May 27th, 2007, 08:50 AM
Here is something nice happening in Albania.

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20070524/i/r4245649658.jpg

A cat licks a puppy near the town of Mamurras, 50 km (31 miles) from Tirana, May 24, 2007. The cat, which had lost her kitten, started caring for the puppies after their mother was killed by a car. REUTERS/Arben Celi (ALBANIA)



http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20070524/capt.sge.gru38.240507233621.photo00.photo.default-357x512.jpg

Taking care : A cat nurses a puppy near the town of Mamurras, 50 km from capital Tirana.



http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20070524/i/r2794832599.jpg


http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20070524/i/r1653119617.jpg


That last picture is :lol:
:awww:
but i think when the puppies grow up, they might bite the cat's nips off :help:

drake3781
May 27th, 2007, 08:58 AM
:awww:
but i think when the puppies grow up, they might bite the cat's nips off :help:


The cat will stop them nursing when the time is right; don't worry. :wavey:

Darop.
May 27th, 2007, 09:21 AM
Yes, like what? I'm curious.

And I still want to know what's up with that wolf and donkey. :p

Like they just got out of a war and dictatorship ended not too long ago, if I'm not mistaken.

Many Albanians emigrated to Italy, and they get treated like complete scum here which is horrible :sad:, they get blamed for every crime that happens and everybody thinks that ALL Albanians do nothing all day and are always up to no good, when really it's the italians who are the real scum.

FORZA SARITA
May 27th, 2007, 11:10 AM
Like they just got out of a war and dictatorship ended not too long ago, if I'm not mistaken.

Many Albanians emigrated to Italy, and they get treated like complete scum here which is horrible :sad:, they get blamed for every crime that happens and everybody thinks that ALL Albanians do nothing all day and are always up to no good, when really it's the italians who are the real scum.

:o

AceTennisGrrrl
May 27th, 2007, 11:26 AM
Last pic, that dog is biting on a cat's nipple! :scared:

Biting? Please tell me you are not serious :tape: :spit:

AceTennisGrrrl
May 27th, 2007, 11:27 AM
Albania is a country between Spain and France. It is a very tiny country which same size as Liecherstein! ;)

OMFG :haha:

SloKid
May 27th, 2007, 12:14 PM
To Slokid, You are extremely immature to me only when you post something which aren't true!
I'd reply, but I have nooooooo clue what you're saying right there.

Lord Nelson
May 27th, 2007, 02:53 PM
Like they just got out of a war and dictatorship ended not too long ago, if I'm not mistaken.

Many Albanians emigrated to Italy, and they get treated like complete scum here which is horrible :sad:, they get blamed for every crime that happens and everybody thinks that ALL Albanians do nothing all day and are always up to no good, when really it's the italians who are the real scum.
well you are no better then them. Some stereotype against Albanians and you stereotype against Italians. Therefore what you all think has to be natural. Also Albanians also live in Switzerland and there is communal tension between them and others. So it is not just in italy and yes they do seem to have intergration problems.

Just Do It
May 27th, 2007, 03:08 PM
Many Albanians emigrated to Italy, and they get treated like complete scum here which is horrible , they get blamed for every crime that happens and everybody thinks that ALL Albanians do nothing all day and are always up to no good, when really it's the italians who are the real scum.

In Serbia this is true for 90% Albanians !

Brett.
May 28th, 2007, 02:20 AM
I'd reply, but I have nooooooo clue what you're saying right there.

Four words that i want to say, "Talking behind my back". You're saying that you have no clue, is because you're afraid of what everyone's opinion are.

Qrystyna
May 28th, 2007, 05:08 PM
I found out that the tour company who I'm using for my vacation this summer offers tours to Albania... I'm thinking of going next year. :D

Qrystyna
May 28th, 2007, 05:11 PM
Like they just got out of a war and dictatorship ended not too long ago, if I'm not mistaken.

Yes, Albania has had a troubled history. The one-party dictatorship ended in 1992 with a transfer to multi-party rule. But then in 1997 there was chaos as many Albanians, unfamiliar with the workings of a market economy, put all their money into pyramid schemes, and the economy collapsed entirely, spilling into chaos and anarchy for awhile. Nowadays the country seems to be a bit more stable politically, although I know there is still a lot of economic problems with a certain amount of the population still relying on subsistence agriculture, but apparently the amount of Albanians migrating out of the country has been decreasing with more opportunities becoming available. It's supposed to be a beautiful country and a very unique place to visit.

Chris 84
May 28th, 2007, 09:29 PM
Four words that i want to say, "Talking behind my back". You're saying that you have no clue, is because you're afraid of what everyone's opinion are.

English isn't your first language, is it? :awww:

drake3781
Jun 10th, 2007, 07:56 AM
Albania hopes for Kosovo reassurance from Bush

By Benet Koleka
Jun 10, 2007

TIRANA (Reuters) - U.S. President George W. Bush on Sunday visits Albania which hopes to receive reassuring words on backing for its NATO membership bid and the future independence of breakaway Kosovo.

The capital Tirana was festooned with U.S. flags, welcome banners and huge posters of a smiling Bush.

On the penultimate stop in his eight-day European tour there will be none of the protests that greeted his visits to Germany and Italy, only a nation welcoming him with open arms.

During the seven-hour visit, starting at 10 a.m. (0800 GMT), Bush will get Albania's highest medal, a street named after him, his picture on commemorative stamps, and an enthusiastic welcome by hundreds of thousands of people.

"The historic visit of President Bush comes at a moment when our bilateral relations are at the highest peak, when Albania is seriously working to receive an invitation for membership by ... NATO and at a key moment for the settlement of Kosovo's final status," Albanian Foreign Minister Lulzim Basha said.

Albanians have been enthusiastic about the West since the collapse of the isolationist Stalinist regime in 1990.

Their good relations with the United States were cemented in 1999, when then president Bill Clinton pushed for intervention in Kosovo, Serbia's breakaway province with an ethnic Albanian majority.

NATO expelled Serb troops accused of killing civilians in a war with separatists, and the United Nations took over.
The United States is the strongest backer of a U.N. plan to make Kosovo independent this year, a move blocked by Russia, a Serbian ally.

During his visit to Italy on Saturday, Bush said the United Nations Security Council must act on the plan now.

The Albanians hope for even stronger words, and there is persistent speculation, constantly denied, he might fly over to the province, a helicopter ride away, for a surprise visit to reassure Kosovo's 90-percent Albanian majority of U.S. support for their independence.

Albania sees Bush's visit, the first by a U.S. president, as reward for its support over Afghanistan and Iraq, where Albania has a small contingent, and for giving refuge to some former Guantanamo detainees who cannot return to their home countries.

Albanians think the visit could affect U.S. policy on Kosovo, and want to make sure Bush has no doubts about their loyalty.

Parliament authorized the entry of more than 500 U.S. Marines into Albania, and no Albanian forces will be allowed to carry guns near the president.

Manholes along Tirana's main road, where he will pass, have been welded shut, and media reported that Arab nationals were under surveillance by the secret service.

A Stalinist-era hall was being remodeled for the visit, with bathrooms re-done with luxury furnishings.

In a village he is due to visit, high profile locals -- the barber and the baker -- were competing on who will give him the best present, which could see Bush go home with a lute, the helmet of Albania's national hero Skanderbeg and silverware.

One in three of Albania's 3.3 million people said they wanted to see him, leading police to issue a public appeal for citizens not to come out on balconies, windows or terraces so as not to alarm U.S. snipers.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/WireStory?id=3263175&page=2

njnetswill
Jun 10th, 2007, 06:48 PM
A European country whose people love Bush?

A MUSLIM country?!

What type of people are these Albanians anyway. :unsure: :lol:

Just Do It
Jun 10th, 2007, 06:53 PM
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A European country whose people love Bush?

A MUSLIM country?!

What type of people are these Albanians anyway.

He is a national hero there ... people adore him ... Albanian goverment would kiss Bush's ass , trust me !!! Also Bill Klinton is a big hero there aswell, just because American goverment is against Serbia and now Busch thinks Kosovo should be independent !

Tractable nation, I feel sorry for them ! :hug:

Lord Nelson
Jun 10th, 2007, 07:20 PM
A European country whose people love Bush?

A MUSLIM country?!

What type of people are these Albanians anyway. :unsure: :lol:

Georgia, a European Christian nation was also very enthusiatic about Bush.
I always had respect for Georgians and Albanians. The minority albanians who are not muslims are well treated. Of course in Kosovo the serbs are not. But Albanians and kosovars are moderates. They are more into nationalism then Islamism.

But of course I don't want Kosovo to get its independance. I like Albanians and Kosovars, but only to a certain point. ;)

drake3781
Jun 10th, 2007, 11:33 PM
OMG, the news is showing Bush in Albania right now. He is being mobbed by people who love him! Shaking his hand and touching his face.

The news said Albania put his face on a postage stamp, named a street after him, and hundreds of mothers are naming their babies "George".

:tape: :help: :p

CrossCourt~Rally
Jun 10th, 2007, 11:41 PM
OMG, the news is showing Bush in Albania right now. He is being mobbed by people who love him! Shaking his hand and touching his face.

The news said Albania put his face on a postage stamp, named a street after him, and hundreds of mothers are naming their babies "George".

:tape: :help: :p


:help:

Tennis-Chick
Jun 10th, 2007, 11:42 PM
OMG, the news is showing Bush in Albania right now. He is being mobbed by people who love him! Shaking his hand and touching his face.

The news said Albania put his face on a postage stamp, named a street after him, and hundreds of mothers are naming their babies "George".

:tape: :help: :p

Really?!?! :lol: :tape: :help:

Apoleb
Jun 11th, 2007, 12:16 AM
OMG, the news is showing Bush in Albania right now. He is being mobbed by people who love him! Shaking his hand and touching his face.

The news said Albania put his face on a postage stamp, named a street after him, and hundreds of mothers are naming their babies "George".

:tape: :help: :p

Well, I guess they should take him if they want.

njnetswill
Jun 11th, 2007, 12:48 AM
Part of me actually feels good for Bush. It must be nice to be adored like that.

Just Do It
Jun 11th, 2007, 11:24 AM
Part of me actually feels good for Bush. It must be nice to be adored like that.

:haha:

Just Do It
Jun 11th, 2007, 11:28 AM
OMG, the news is showing Bush in Albania right now. He is being mobbed by people who love him! Shaking his hand and touching his face.

The news said Albania put his face on a postage stamp, named a street after him, and hundreds of mothers are naming their babies "George".

I am watching that for the whole weekend :tape:

P.S Albanians are giving BILL KLINTON as a name for their children ... that is really popular now :tape:

rada
Jun 11th, 2007, 11:49 AM
Georgia, a European Christian nation was also very enthusiatic about Bush.
I always had respect for Georgians and Albanians. The minority albanians who are not muslims are well treated. Of course in Kosovo the serbs are not. But Albanians and kosovars are moderates. They are more into nationalism then Islamism.

But of course I don't want Kosovo to get its independance. I like Albanians and Kosovars, but only to a certain point. ;)

yes independence would be wrong.

drake3781
Jun 11th, 2007, 06:31 PM
I am watching that for the whole weekend :tape:

P.S Albanians are giving BILL KLINTON as a name for their children ... that is really popular now :tape:

The whole name? Or just the Bill? Do they know the name is William? :confused:

drake3781
Jun 11th, 2007, 06:35 PM
Note to Lord Nelson:

Please stop badrepping me, and sending me PMs. I'm only posting news articles or expressing my opinion. I'm not doing something negative on the message board.

If you don't like the news articles or my opinions, then write back IN THE THREAD!!

Lord Nelson
Jun 11th, 2007, 07:18 PM
Note to Lord Nelson:

Please stop badrepping me, and sending me PMs. I'm only posting news articles or expressing my opinion. I'm not doing something negative on the message board.

If you don't like the news articles or my opinions, then write back IN THE THREAD!!
When did I send you a pm? I haven't done that in a loooong time and fret not have no intention of doing so. As for my rep it was harmless. It was not a bad rep. The only bad thing was its color, red. The text was more or less neutral. Don't tell me that you are one of those who pays attention to the color of your reps. :rolleyes:

Yes, I did not approve that you seemed to not appreciate what the Albanians were doing. You also did not mention that many Albanians also anmed their kids Bill Klinton. You were only focusing on Bush.

Just Do It
Jun 11th, 2007, 08:26 PM
The whole name? Or just the Bill? Do they know the name is William?

Yes :tape: I watched that on one Serbian TV !

drake3781
Jun 11th, 2007, 11:15 PM
When did I send you a pm? I haven't done that in a loooong time and fret not have no intention of doing so. As for my rep it was harmless. It was not a bad rep. The only bad thing was its color, red. The text was more or less neutral. Don't tell me that you are one of those who pays attention to the color of your reps. :rolleyes:

Yes, I did not approve that you seemed to not appreciate what the Albanians were doing. You also did not mention that many Albanians also anmed their kids Bill Klinton. You were only focusing on Bush.


You PM'd me recently and I don't want your Reps, messages, and PMs. I pay attention to what I want to. Write your response in the thread, as you did here. It is not necessary to continue the information in my reps and PMs. That is all.

drake3781
Jun 11th, 2007, 11:17 PM
Yes :tape: I watched that on one Serbian TV !

But I still don't understand. :lol:

First of all, the name is spelled Clinton, not Klinton. So are they spelling it Klinton?

And how are they named, considering they have - I presume - another family last name? Do they have Bill as first name, Klinton as middle name, and family name as last name?

I'm really curious about this. :p

©@®eLess
Jun 12th, 2007, 12:50 AM
and they probably say it Billj Cljinton....

:lol: intern joke...only Ex-Yu know what i;m talking about...hahahahahaha

anyway ... you know what state of the country is once they start calling babies after foreign leader.... First they praised USSR...then went to lick China's ass....and now gp knees down to blow USA...they tried every position with every country....too bad nothing good turned out of it....

And after the Bush speech...tv station put on the parts of Tirana Bush won't see...only 150m from there....looks worse then Baghdad....also they have problems with water and electric power...and since Kosovo is rich in both...of course they want to get it....who wouldn't. Well atleast when Basque country, Corsica, Scotland, Norther Ireland and other parts demand independence...Serbian leaders will be there to offer them help and support...after all if one gets it...why shouldn't the others...? Fair and square...as would EU say...its a voice of people...

drake3781
Jun 22nd, 2007, 10:20 PM
President Bush was in Albania. He thought he was going to Albany. Anyway, he ended up in Albania ... and somebody stole his watch. Bush is upset. He is really angry. He said he now has no choice but to bomb Iran. --David Letterman

Serena-rules-no1
Jul 5th, 2007, 09:43 PM
Like they just got out of a war and dictatorship ended not too long ago, if I'm not mistaken.

Many Albanians emigrated to Italy, and they get treated like complete scum here which is horrible :sad:, they get blamed for every crime that happens and everybody thinks that ALL Albanians do nothing all day and are always up to no good, when really it's the italians who are the real scum.

most of immigrants are hard workers, working all day long and doing the hardest works, cleaning toilets, in agriculture and construction but of course they are never mentioned in newspapers and TVs while the idiots that commit the crimes that are the minority do and that's how the stereotypes are created. I dont blame Italians or any other nationalities for their bad opinion about us as I've seen what scum of people have immigrated there from here but they should keep in mind coz there arent only Albanians doing those and the majority is done by their own citzens

Also Albanians also live in Switzerland and there is communal tension between them and others. So it is not just in italy and yes they do seem to have intergration problems.

true that, isolated for decades, never used to international relations, hard for them being integrated

In Serbia this is true for 90% Albanians !

how many Albanians live in Serbia? :confused:

I found out that the tour company who I'm using for my vacation this summer offers tours to Albania... I'm thinking of going next year. :D

you'd be welcomed, the tourism is growing slowly but surely, though the infrastructure and transportation sucks a big one

Yes, Albania has had a troubled history. The one-party dictatorship ended in 1992 with a transfer to multi-party rule. But then in 1997 there was chaos as many Albanians, unfamiliar with the workings of a market economy, put all their money into pyramid schemes, and the economy collapsed entirely, spilling into chaos and anarchy for awhile. Nowadays the country seems to be a bit more stable politically, although I know there is still a lot of economic problems with a certain amount of the population still relying on subsistence agriculture, but apparently the amount of Albanians migrating out of the country has been decreasing with more opportunities becoming available. It's supposed to be a beautiful country and a very unique place to visit.

:wavey: good knowledge about the recent history. but it was the period from 1945 to 1990 that has affected more the economy and wellfair of the people

A European country whose people love Bush?

A MUSLIM country?!

What type of people are these Albanians anyway. :unsure: :lol:

we're not a muslim country, the majority is muslim but there are plenty of catholics, orthodoxs and protestants and unlike many other countries there has never been a war in the name of religion here, smth to be a little proud of.
what type? you can find all species here, from illiterates to Nobel prize candidates

He is a national hero there ... people adore him ... Albanian goverment would kiss Bush's ass , trust me !!! Also Bill Klinton is a big hero there aswell, just because American goverment is against Serbia and now Busch thinks Kosovo should be independent !

Tractable nation, I feel sorry for them ! :hug:

Actually the love for americans has started long time ago, before the Kosovo situation. Probably the fact that we were isolated and the USA were the symbol of freedom. After the fall of communism there was an American senator that came here in 1991 and you wouldnt believe the amount of people that were in the main square to greet him. Most of people here don't care much about the Kosovo situation, America is the epitome of 'hope' for some people here and Bush's visit here was just seen as hope for a better future. We're trying to have good relations with America since Europe is closing the doors for us.

OMG, the news is showing Bush in Albania right now. He is being mobbed by people who love him! Shaking his hand and touching his face.

The news said Albania put his face on a postage stamp, named a street after him, and hundreds of mothers are naming their babies "George".

:tape: :help: :p

the name George would sound very weird for a baby here, but I might call my next higuana like that

President Bush was in Albania. He thought he was going to Albany. Anyway, he ended up in Albania ... and somebody stole his watch. Bush is upset. He is really angry. He said he now has no choice but to bomb Iran. --David Letterman


1 day after his visit all over the world they showed the 'stolen' watch episode.
the folloing day not many TVs and newspapers bothered to admit that the news waas wrong and that he put himself the watch in the pocket. It's obvious how bad foreigners try to make us look like

drake3781
Jul 5th, 2007, 09:53 PM
Actually the love for americans has started long time ago, before the Kosovo situation. Probably the fact that we were isolated and the USA were the symbol of freedom. After the fall of communism there was an American senator that came here in 1991 and you wouldnt believe the amount of people that were in the main square to greet him. Most of people here don't care much about the Kosovo situation, America is the epitome of 'hope' for some people here and Bush's visit here was just seen as hope for a better future. We're trying to have good relations with America since Europe is closing the doors for us.


Can you find out which senator?



the name George would sound very weird for a baby here, but I might call my next higuana like that


:p



1 day after his visit all over the world they showed the 'stolen' watch episode.
the folloing day not many TVs and newspapers bothered to admit that the news waas wrong and that he put himself the watch in the pocket. It's obvious how bad foreigners try to make us look like

Don't worry... it wasn't to make Albanians look bad, it was a joke on Bush (who most American's don't like).

Dava
Jul 5th, 2007, 09:57 PM
I have actually been to Albania. It is a really beautiful country with some breathtaking countryside however the cities and towns are also breathtaking for completly the wrong reasons. It is very poor in some places, and seems to be a place where the rich have everything and the poor have nothing with nobody in between. However they all own Mercs regardless of class, but they are probably stolen.

Serena-rules-no1
Jul 5th, 2007, 10:07 PM
Can you find out which senator?

:p

Don't worry... it wasn't to make Albanians look bad, it was a joke on Bush (who most American's don't like).

I'll try to find who it was, maybe not a senator but it was some guy in American government :shrug: I was too young back then.

it was made against Bush but haters were quick tagging albanians as thieves

Serena-rules-no1
Jul 5th, 2007, 10:13 PM
I have actually been to Albania. It is a really beautiful country with some breathtaking countryside however the cities and towns are also breathtaking for completly the wrong reasons.

too true

when were you here? coz some things have changed recently


However they all own Mercs regardless of class, but they are probably stolen.
;)

Slumpsova
Jul 5th, 2007, 10:16 PM
scarecrows :hug:
keeping the faith :yeah:

drake3781
Jul 5th, 2007, 10:21 PM
I'll try to find who it was, maybe not a senator but it was some guy in American government :shrug: I was too young back then.

OK, I'll try to research it also.


it was made against Bush but haters were quick tagging albanians as thieves

No, I just want to reassure you that the perception of the Americans watching it would be to laugh at Bush (and nobody would have any idea where Tirana is so would not think badly of Albanians). Bush is a big joke here and that was another laugh at him only, not your country.

Serena-rules-no1
Jul 5th, 2007, 10:21 PM
scarecrows :hug:
keeping the faith :yeah:

are you living in Thailand?

I have a chance to go to the Universiade but looks a bit unlikely now :(

Serena-rules-no1
Jul 5th, 2007, 10:24 PM
No, I just want to reassure you that the perception of the Americans watching it would be to laugh at Bush (and nobody would have any idea where Tirana is so would not think badly of Albanians). Bush is a big joke here and that was another laugh at him only, not your country.

for americans yes, but in some European countries they just wait for an occasion to have a go at Albanians


hmmm, I'm sounding a bit paranoid but actually I dont give a rat's ass

Serena-rules-no1
Jul 5th, 2007, 10:27 PM
OK, I'll try to research it also.



found it

actually it was the secretary of state James Baker

drake3781
Mar 6th, 2008, 09:03 AM
Boat Sinking Kills 16 in Albania

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: March 6, 2008
Filed at 1:58 a.m. ET

TIRANA, Albania (AP) -- A boat carrying partygoers celebrating the birthday of 5-year-old twins sank overnight in a lake near the capital, killing 16 people, including the two children, police said Thursday.

The boat belonged to a restaurant on the shores of Lake Farka, about three miles east of the capital, Tirana. It had a capacity of seven, but was transporting 20 people from the restaurant when it sank shortly after midnight, Tirana police spokeswoman Alma Katragjini said.


Authorities believe the boat capsized because it was overloaded.

Four people survived, Katragjini said. Three hours after the sinking, authorities had collected 16 bodies from the lake: seven men, seven women and the 5-year-old twin boys, she said.

Fourteen of the dead belonged to two families, while two of the bodies could not immediately be identified, but were believed to be those of family friends, Katragjini said.

Outside the Tirana morgue, men wept and held each other as relatives and friends gathered to claim the bodies.

Lakeside and seaside restaurants are popular in Albania, but most are within easy reach of roads. The one on Lake Farka was more remote, and a small boat was often used to ferry passengers to it.

Just Do It
Mar 6th, 2008, 11:01 AM
Drug traffic · Albania
V6teusu3-Rk

And one more ...

Rule of the Gun - Albania
OFUAwa6LbCU


:yeah:

Jovana.
Mar 6th, 2008, 11:38 AM
I thought Albania was located in Middle-earth, bordering Mordor??

:rolls: :haha: :rolls: :haha:

Slumpsova
Mar 6th, 2008, 12:30 PM
stop insulting Albania. you Serbs are so mean :rolleyes:

Just Do It
Mar 6th, 2008, 12:44 PM
stop insulting Albania. you Serbs are so mean :rolleyes:

Who is insulting Albania here ?

Slumpsova
Mar 6th, 2008, 12:47 PM
Who is insulting Albania here ?
ok i was wrong. i mean stop making fun of Albania.
HighHopes and antonella :rolleyes:

Just Do It
Mar 6th, 2008, 12:56 PM
ok i was wrong. i mean stop making fun of Albania.
HighHopes and antonella :rolleyes:

I just went through the whole thread and I have to say it is HILARIOUS. As for me posting those videos, that is Albanian reality, and there are many similar and even worse videos on youtube about Albania, so I dont know why would it be wrong to post them here :shrug:

Slumpsova
Mar 6th, 2008, 01:02 PM
I just went through the whole thread and I have to say it is HILARIOUS. As for me posting those videos, that is Albanian reality, and there are many similar and even worse videos on youtube about Albania, so I dont know why would it be wrong to post them here :shrug:
maybe i didn't mean you :confused:

Just Do It
Mar 6th, 2008, 01:16 PM
maybe i didn't mean you :confused:

WTF is this Tuna ? WTF ?


:bolt:

Slumpsova
Mar 6th, 2008, 01:23 PM
WTF is this Tuna ? WTF ?


:bolt:
:help:
don't tell me you didn't know :tape:

Just Do It
Mar 6th, 2008, 01:27 PM
:help:
don't tell me you didn't know :tape:

No, I just discovered while going through this thread :o

I was wondering who is this jerk :spit:

Szavaysova ? WTF ? :spit:

Slumpsova
Mar 6th, 2008, 01:30 PM
No, I just discovered while going through this thread :o

I was wondering who is this jerk :spit:

Szavaysova ? WTF ? :spit:
just bc i think all bad jokes here aren't funny doesn't mean i'm a jerk, you punk! :rolleyes:

Just Do It
Mar 6th, 2008, 01:38 PM
just bc i think all bad jokes here aren't funny doesn't mean i'm a jerk, you punk! :rolleyes:

I am not talking just about this thread, we argued throught the whole week in GM aswell. I did not know that was you :tape:

Slumpsova
Mar 6th, 2008, 01:43 PM
I am not talking just about this thread, we argued throught the whole week in GM aswell. I did not know that was you :tape:
did whe argue? :confused:
i think it was a chit-chat thing :)

Petkorazzi
Mar 6th, 2008, 01:47 PM
I met a guy from Georgia and his dick is just :drool:. So i must they would be the same as Albandian. :kiss:

:help:.

Petkorazzi
Mar 6th, 2008, 01:47 PM
It also took me time to realize Szavaysova is tunafish. :lol:

Just Do It
Mar 6th, 2008, 01:48 PM
did whe argue? :confused:
i think it was a chit-chat thing :)

I dont know, but what the heck is Jankovic doing in your signature ? We really should stop talking here.

Jovana.
Mar 6th, 2008, 02:15 PM
ok i was wrong. i mean stop making fun of Albania.
HighHopes and antonella :rolleyes:

:spit: i'm just laughing at the post,not making fun of anyone...btw. thěs thread is just ridicilous.

drake3781
Mar 6th, 2008, 06:51 PM
:spit: i'm just laughing at the post,not making fun of anyone...btw. thěs thread is just ridicilous.

This is my favorite "pet" thread. :lol:

drake3781
Mar 6th, 2008, 06:59 PM
Drug traffic · Albania
V6teusu3-Rk

And one more ...

Rule of the Gun - Albania
OFUAwa6LbCU


:yeah:

The second one is very good so far! Couldn't watch it all now but will definitely come back to that one.

The first one... seems to be missing context. Can you provide any?

Thanks for these videos; post a few more if you know of good ones.

Just Do It
Mar 6th, 2008, 07:46 PM
The first one... seems to be missing context. Can you provide any?

Dont worry, watch it again, some people just need more time.

Slumpsova
Mar 6th, 2008, 07:59 PM
The second one is very good so far! Couldn't watch it all now but will definitely come back to that one.

The first one... seems to be missing context. Can you provide any?

Thanks for these videos; post a few more if you know of good ones.
:wavey:

drake3781
Mar 22nd, 2008, 07:51 AM
Death toll from Albanian ammunition dump blast climbs to 21

Published: March 21, 2008
TIRANA, Albania (http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/03/21/europe/EU-GEN-Albania-Explosion.php#): Albanian soldiers sifting through the wreckage of an ammunition depot that exploded last weekend found two more bodies Friday, raising the death toll to 21, the military said.
Officials said about 1,000 soldiers and other rescue workers were searching for more victims, and six U.N. experts arrived Friday on a two-week mission to help local authorities with the search and cleanup effort.
The blast March 15 near the capital, Tirana, injured more than 300 people, destroyed 412 homes, damaged 3,800 others and scattered artillery shells over some 15 square miles (40 square kilometers).
Prime Minister Sali Berisha's spokeswoman, Juela Mecani, said it was still unclear how many people were missing from the explosions at Gerdec village. She said DNA tests would be needed to identify some victims.
Earlier, Albanian officials had put the number of missing at three.
The government has said the blast was accidentally triggered during work to dispose of surplus Communist-era ammunition. Three people have been arrested on suspicion of negligence.
But Berisha said Friday he could not exclude the possibility of "a terrorist act." He added, however, that he had no evidence to back up such a possibility.
About 15 families have been sheltered in tents in areas cleared of unexploded ammunition near their destroyed houses. Some 1,400 tons of artillery shells were stored at Gerdec.
Opposition parties have called for Berisha's resignation over the explosions, and staged a protest march through central Tirana late Friday. Thousands of protesters walked peacefully along Tirana's main Martyrs of the Nation Avenue and left lit candles on the steps of Berisha's office.
The opposition accuses Berisha of corrupt deals involving the sale of surplus weaponry, and of mismanaging the disposal of ammunition.
Defense Minister Fatmir Mediu resigned after the blasts, and he was questioned as a witness Thursday by investigators.
U.S. President George W. Bush on Friday sent a letter of condolence to Albanian President Bamir Topi.
"Albania's determination to rid itself of dangerous excess munitions is commendable, and few countries can match its record," Bush wrote. "The incident in Gerdec shows us again how vital it is for Albania and the international community to remain committed to programs that safely dispose of this danger to public safety."
About 100,000 tons of excess ammunition, comprised largely of Russian and Chinese artillery shells made in the 1960s or earlier, are stored in former army depots across Albania.
NATO members, including the U.S., Canada and Norway, have been helping the Balkan country with the weapons disposal.
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/03/21/europe/EU-GEN-Albania-Explosion.php

drake3781
Mar 22nd, 2008, 08:00 AM
This story is horrifying.

===============

KLA sold Kosovo Serb organs in Albania"21 March 2008 | 14:11 -> 19:23 | Source: B92, Beta
BELGRADE -- The prosecutor is to look into the sale of organs of Kosovo Serbs who vanished during and after the 1999 bombing.


“We are checking some informal statements we obtained through operative work that, in 1999, two trucks carrying imprisoned Kosovo Serbs were sent to Albania,” said War Crimes Prosecutor Vladimir Vukčević.

He said that the informal information had been obtained from Hague Tribunal investigators.


According to those sources, there are unregistered mass graves with bodies of murdered Serbs in Albania.


In her book, “The Hunt”, to be published in Italy on April 3, the former Hague Tribunal Chief Prosecutor Carla Del Ponte states that, during investigations into war crimes committed by the Kosovo Liberation Army, KLA, against Serbs and other non-Albanians, the prosecutor’s office was informed that persons who disappeared during the Kosovo conflict were used in organ smuggling operations.


The office obtained information that UNMIK investigators and officials had received from groups of so-called reliable journalists, according to whom, Kosovo Albanians had transferred 300 Serb and other non-Albanian hostages in trucks to northern Albania in the summer of 1999.


Those prisoners were first imprisoned in camps in places like Kukes and Tropoje.


According to journalist sources, the younger and fitter prisoners were examined by doctors, got food and were not beaten. After that, they were kept in custody in other centers in Burel and the surrounding area.


One group was held in barracks behind a yellow house some twenty kilometers to the south of that town, states the former prosecutor.


One room in that yellow house, according to the journalists, served as an operation room where doctors extracted prisoners’ organs.


Afterwards, the organs, according to the sources, were sent abroad from Rinas airport near Tirana where they were used in transplantations for patients who had paid for it.


Daily Večerenje Novosti brings more details from the book, which says that the Hague and UNMIK investigators, and several journalist, along with an Albanian prosecutor, made a trip to the yellow house in 2003.


"It was now white," Del Ponte writes. "Despite the fact that investigators discovered traces of yellow paint on it, the owner denied it was ever repainted."


In its vicinity, investigators also found pieces of gauze, used syringes, two plastic IV solution bags, "petrified in mud", empty medicine bottles, including muscle relaxants used during surgeries.


Inside the house itself, forensics discovered traces of blood on the walls and on the floor in one of the rooms. A section of the floor, sized 180 by 60 centimeters, was clean.


"The owner of the house offered a series of explanations to the investigators when it came to the origin of the blood traces. First, he said that his wife gave birth in that room many years ago. But when the wife made her statement and said that all their children were born elsewhere, he claimed that his family used the room to slaughter animals in order to celebrate a Muslim holiday," Del Ponte writes.


As for the Albanian prosecutor who accompanied them, the former chief Hague prosecutor says he at one point bragged he had cousins who were KLA members.


"There are no graves of Serbs here," the Albanian official said. "But, if they took the Serbs from the Kosovo border and killed them, they did the right thing".


Describing detailed information she has on the matter, Del Ponte writes that detectives had had to give up on this case because further investigation had proved "impossible:.

Aloimeh
Mar 22nd, 2008, 09:39 AM
This story is horrifying.

===============

KLA sold Kosovo Serb organs in Albania"21 March 2008 | 14:11 -> 19:23 | Source: B92, Beta
BELGRADE -- The prosecutor is to look into the sale of organs of Kosovo Serbs who vanished during and after the 1999 bombing.


“We are checking some informal statements we obtained through operative work that, in 1999, two trucks carrying imprisoned Kosovo Serbs were sent to Albania,” said War Crimes Prosecutor Vladimir Vukčević.

He said that the informal information had been obtained from Hague Tribunal investigators.


According to those sources, there are unregistered mass graves with bodies of murdered Serbs in Albania.


In her book, “The Hunt”, to be published in Italy on April 3, the former Hague Tribunal Chief Prosecutor Carla Del Ponte states that, during investigations into war crimes committed by the Kosovo Liberation Army, KLA, against Serbs and other non-Albanians, the prosecutor’s office was informed that persons who disappeared during the Kosovo conflict were used in organ smuggling operations.


The office obtained information that UNMIK investigators and officials had received from groups of so-called reliable journalists, according to whom, Kosovo Albanians had transferred 300 Serb and other non-Albanian hostages in trucks to northern Albania in the summer of 1999.


Those prisoners were first imprisoned in camps in places like Kukes and Tropoje.


According to journalist sources, the younger and fitter prisoners were examined by doctors, got food and were not beaten. After that, they were kept in custody in other centers in Burel and the surrounding area.


One group was held in barracks behind a yellow house some twenty kilometers to the south of that town, states the former prosecutor.


One room in that yellow house, according to the journalists, served as an operation room where doctors extracted prisoners’ organs.


Afterwards, the organs, according to the sources, were sent abroad from Rinas airport near Tirana where they were used in transplantations for patients who had paid for it.


Daily Večerenje Novosti brings more details from the book, which says that the Hague and UNMIK investigators, and several journalist, along with an Albanian prosecutor, made a trip to the yellow house in 2003.


"It was now white," Del Ponte writes. "Despite the fact that investigators discovered traces of yellow paint on it, the owner denied it was ever repainted."


In its vicinity, investigators also found pieces of gauze, used syringes, two plastic IV solution bags, "petrified in mud", empty medicine bottles, including muscle relaxants used during surgeries.


Inside the house itself, forensics discovered traces of blood on the walls and on the floor in one of the rooms. A section of the floor, sized 180 by 60 centimeters, was clean.


"The owner of the house offered a series of explanations to the investigators when it came to the origin of the blood traces. First, he said that his wife gave birth in that room many years ago. But when the wife made her statement and said that all their children were born elsewhere, he claimed that his family used the room to slaughter animals in order to celebrate a Muslim holiday," Del Ponte writes.


As for the Albanian prosecutor who accompanied them, the former chief Hague prosecutor says he at one point bragged he had cousins who were KLA members.


"There are no graves of Serbs here," the Albanian official said. "But, if they took the Serbs from the Kosovo border and killed them, they did the right thing".


Describing detailed information she has on the matter, Del Ponte writes that detectives had had to give up on this case because further investigation had proved "impossible:.




Yeah, give 'em independence, they "deserve" it. :rolleyes:

Epigone
Mar 23rd, 2008, 09:02 AM
Yeah, give 'em independence, they "deserve" it. :rolleyes:Then send them a shipment of arms :yeah:

link (http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2008&mm=03&dd=20&nav_id=48619)

Elwin.
Mar 23rd, 2008, 10:58 AM
Albania is a country between Spain and France. It is a very tiny country which same size as Liecherstein! ;)

:haha: :smash:

flyingmachine
Mar 23rd, 2008, 01:03 PM
Albania is a country between Spain and France. It is a very tiny country which same size as Liecherstein! ;)
OMG :haha: :haha: :haha: :rolls:
This post won the post of the week. :lol: :tape:

Slumpsova
Mar 23rd, 2008, 04:05 PM
there's no such contry called Liecherstein :rolleyes:

Brett.
Mar 23rd, 2008, 04:20 PM
there's no such contry called Liecherstein :rolleyes:

I can't spell that bloody long name next door to Switzerland :rolleyes:

drake3781
Oct 28th, 2008, 07:49 PM
Latest: Albanian Kosovo Muslim terrorist hackers have hacked Jelena Jankovic's website.


http://www.jj-jelenajankovic.com/



www.jj-jelenajankovic.com (Hacked by Kosova Hackers Group)

Just Do It
Oct 28th, 2008, 10:45 PM
Serbian prosecutor in Albania to probe organ trafficking

TIRANA, Albania – Albania's top prosecutor on Monday met the Serbian war crimes prosecutor who is probing claims that guerrillas killed Serb prisoners for their organs during the 1999 Kosovo war.

Vladimir Vukcevic handed the Albanian prosecutor the material the Serb side has gathered on the case so far, his spokesman Bruno Vekaric said. Vukcevic is probing claims that mass graves containing the remains of slain Serbs could be hidden in Albania.

Vekaric said Monday's meeting was very good "despite totally different positions" on the case. He said the US embassies in Belgrade and Tirana played an important role in setting up the meeting.

Kosovo and Albania have denied any knowledge of the alleged crimes.

Albanian Prosecutor-General Ina Rama said Albania would supply "all the required support" to facilitate Vukcevic's work, according to her spokeswoman, Holta Zhiti.

Allegations of organ-trafficking involving Serbs killed during Kosovo's 1998-99 war first surfaced in a book by the former chief UN war crimes prosecutor Carla Del Ponte.

In "The Hunt: War Criminals and Me," Del Ponte wrote that, according to her sources, between 100 and 300 mostly Serb civilians were transported by truck from Kosovo to a house near the Albanian town of Burrel, about 55 miles (90 kilometers) north of the capital, Tirana.

There, the younger ones allegedly were picked out and killed by Kosovo guerrillas, and their organs were later sold abroad, the book says.

Albanian Foreign Minister Lulzim Basha has called the allegations "inventions and absurdities."

Thousands of people were killed in Kosovo as Serb security troops cracked down on ethnic Albanian separatists. The conflict ended after NATO bombed Serbia in 1999.

Hundreds of Serbs and ethnic Albanians are still missing from the war. Kosovo declared independence from Serbia on February 17. - AP

miffedmax
Oct 28th, 2008, 11:43 PM
When I was in grad school my roommate and I subscribed to "Albania Today", a propaganda publication of the old communist government.

Apparently, everything there used to be named after Enver Hoxha, the loopy dictator. It was such woefully bad propaganda. I'm sure I'm still on an FBI list somewhere.

Slutati
Oct 29th, 2008, 12:31 AM
Albania is a country between Spain and France. It is a very tiny country which same size as Liecherstein! ;)
:haha::rolls:
OMG, this is fantastic :lol:

Brett.
Oct 29th, 2008, 04:55 AM
Shut up! :o :lol:

Danči Dementia
Oct 29th, 2008, 05:13 AM
:awww: :hug:


:rolls:

Lin Lin
Oct 29th, 2008, 08:34 AM
:eek::haha: