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RVD
May 13th, 2007, 09:26 PM
Does anyone here timeshare? Do you know anyone who does?

I tried it way back in the 80s. I bought into a timeshare package in Las Vegas. :tape: What a #@*! ripoff!!
But to think that people still buy into this scam, after so many have been proven to be run by scam artists, just blows my mind!!!! And the ones that are legit charge you some ungodly amount for an ungodly length on time. :scared:

I just watched a timeshare infomercial for Lake Tahoe. The place looked incredible [as well they usually do on TV or in a brochure...], but overall, how in the world could timeshare possibly work? I can almost see where the rich or well-off could benefit from such a thing. But if you think about it, they have the income to build a summer home or chalet. Then again, maybe it's the rich who own the dummy corporations who offer these loan-shark timeshare contracts? :hehehe: :lol:

mykarma
May 13th, 2007, 09:40 PM
Does anyone here timeshare? Do you know anyone who does?

I tried it way back in the 80s. I bought into a timeshare package in Las Vegas. :tape: What a #@*! ripoff!!
But to think that people still buy into this scam, after so many have been proven to be run by scam artists, just blows my mind!!!! And the ones that are legit charge you some ungodly amount for an ungodly length on time. :scared:

I just watched a timeshare infomercial for Lake Tahoe. The place looked incredible [as well they usually do on TV or in a brochure...], but overall, how in the world could timeshare possibly work? I can almost see where the rich or well-off could benefit from such a thing. But if you think about it, they have the income to build a summer home or chalet. Then again, maybe it's the rich who own the dummy corporations who offer these loan-shark timeshare contracts? :hehehe: :lol:
I have a friend that uses hers and seems to enjoy it but I've also heard some real horror stories. I heard to never buy a timeshare from the agent but buy it from someone that is trying to get out of one because they're so difficult to get rid of.

RVD
May 13th, 2007, 10:04 PM
I have a friend that uses hers and seems to enjoy it but I've also heard some real horror stories. I heard to never buy a timeshare from the agent but buy it from someone that is trying to get out of one because they're so difficult to get rid of.I've heard of countless who initially thought they'd struck gold after signing a contract. Only to discover les than a year later that they could have purchased a house for what they paid. :lol:
And yeah, the penalty for breaking the contract is outlandish. That's why I used the term 'loan-shark' when describing the contratcs. :)
My sister was the last to buy into one some years ago. I teased her about not listening to me and she gets sooo pissed. :haha: That was some serious money down the drain!

Pheobo
May 13th, 2007, 11:28 PM
oh, the burdens of people with money to waste.

ShotSpot
May 13th, 2007, 11:33 PM
Well actually it depends who you buy into.
Marriott offers great Timeshares in Florida. Finding a hotel in which you pay $500 dollars a night isn't as cheap as paying a flat rate of 2000 for maintenance etc. It's like living in a Condo! Maybe you shouldn't buy into such cheap companies, that's probably your problem... go for the brand name.

drake3781
May 14th, 2007, 12:36 AM
(It's so hard typing on this graygreen background. :tape: )

My parents have had two timeshares for as long as I can remember. I think they are both Marriott. They go to the place they love every year, same week. It's on the beach. It is two bedrooms, and a sofabed iin the living room if more than four go. Living room, dining area, and a good kitchen with appliances, dinnerware, etc. One bathroom at each bedroom.

My brothers usually go, and golf, etc.

Then they have another one that they "bank" which means they trade it in every year and go somewhere else. There is a long list of places they can choose from, and they can go any week they want, assuming there is one banked that is available. They use this one when they plan to go somewhere else, such as to visit relatives or a specially-planned trip. Once I went with them to Cancun - very nice place. I guess this one is Marriott also.

They also get a lot of bonuses when they bought them, such as Marriott points that they can be used at hotels, and bonus week(s) that can be used at other Marriott timeshares anywhere.

I don't think they were very expensive. They found deals when buying them, and of course they can sell them for close to or maybe more than what they paid.

So I'm not really clear on what type of problems you had, but I can tell you a lot of people are happy with the timeshares they have. Maybe try Marriott, if you have had bad luck with others. OBviously you have to choose a reputable company, and you should get recommendations/feedback from others who have experience with the company.

Fingon
May 14th, 2007, 02:24 AM
Does anyone here timeshare? Do you know anyone who does?

I tried it way back in the 80s. I bought into a timeshare package in Las Vegas. :tape: What a #@*! ripoff!!
But to think that people still buy into this scam, after so many have been proven to be run by scam artists, just blows my mind!!!! And the ones that are legit charge you some ungodly amount for an ungodly length on time. :scared:

I just watched a timeshare infomercial for Lake Tahoe. The place looked incredible [as well they usually do on TV or in a brochure...], but overall, how in the world could timeshare possibly work? I can almost see where the rich or well-off could benefit from such a thing. But if you think about it, they have the income to build a summer home or chalet. Then again, maybe it's the rich who own the dummy corporations who offer these loan-shark timeshare contracts? :hehehe: :lol:

Some people still falls for the Nigeria scam, I don't know why you are surprised, human stupidity gets worse and worse and when you throw greed in the mix it becomes brain damage.

RVD
May 14th, 2007, 02:56 AM
Some people still falls for the Nigeria scam, I don't know why you are surprised, human stupidity gets worse and worse and when you throw greed in the mix it becomes brain damage.True. They'll always be suckas out there to take advantage of. Not to mention the ever-changing face of the grift. :)

Rocketta
May 14th, 2007, 03:03 AM
I have one. :o

but it's an hour away from my house near the water and I get to use it all year. :shrug:

but it is a scam......however, a lot of times only thing left is to make the best of it. :)

Wigglytuff
May 14th, 2007, 03:15 AM
i think the idea of paying for something all year that you can only use 3 weeks out of the year seems REALLY REALLY retarded. why not put that money into a high yield savings account and then go on your vacation 3 weeks a year that seems A LOT cheaper.

Rocketta
May 14th, 2007, 03:28 AM
i think the idea of paying for something all year that you can only use 3 weeks out of the year seems REALLY REALLY retarded. why not put that money into a high yield savings account and then go on your vacation 3 weeks a year that seems A LOT cheaper.

I only did for tax purposes just didn't work out as beneficial as I hoped. :shrug:

Wigglytuff
May 14th, 2007, 03:31 AM
I only did for tax purposes just didn't work out as beneficial as I hoped. :shrug:

i dont know anything about taxes, how would that have helped your taxes?

Rocketta
May 14th, 2007, 03:36 AM
i dont know anything about taxes, how would that have helped your taxes?

mortgage interest

Wannabeknowitall
May 14th, 2007, 03:42 AM
I just look at the commercials on The Tennis Channel and I've always wondered who would actually do it.
Well now it seems I got my answer. :tape:
They should do a WTAworld timeshare commercial for The Tennis Channel, this way maybe more people would be duped into doing it. :lol:

Wigglytuff
May 14th, 2007, 03:48 AM
mortgage interest

i'm sorry can u explain that to me in more detail... as i dont really know anything about how the tax system works.

drake3781
May 14th, 2007, 04:05 AM
i'm sorry can u explain that to me in more detail... as i dont really know anything about how the tax system works.


Mortgage interest is a tax deduction. As are property taxes that you pay on your property.

Say you own a $100,000 home, have paid $20,000, and have a $80,000 mortgage.
Say your monthly mortage payments are $800, for a total of of $9600 per year.
And say in the current year, $4000 of that was interest.

On your tax return, you first enter all of your income (wages, interest earned, etc.) then you calculate deductions from the earnings, before calculating your tax owed.

Say your total income was $50,000.
Instead of paying income tax on the $50,000, you deduct $4,000 and you own tax only on $46,000 of income.

Also as a property owner, you pay property tax. That amount is also decucted from your incomve.

So say you paid $2,000 in property taxes for the year.

Then you calculate your tax owed on only $44,000.

This is just a quick but basic explanation, ignoring other income and deductions..

Wigglytuff
May 14th, 2007, 04:25 AM
Mortgage interest is a tax deduction. As are property taxes that you pay on your property.

Say you own a $100,000 home, have paid $20,000, and have a $80,000 mortgage.
Say your monthly mortage payments are $800, for a total of of $9600 per year.
And say in the current year, $4000 of that was interest.

On your tax return, you first enter all of your income (wages, interest earned, etc.) then you calculate deductions from the earnings, before calculating your tax owed.

Say your total income was $50,000.
Instead of paying income tax on the $50,000, you deduct $4,000 and you own tax only on $46,000 of income.

Also as a property owner, you pay property tax. That amount is also decucted from your incomve.

So say you paid $2,000 in property taxes for the year.

Then you calculate your tax owed on only $44,000.

This is just a quick but basic explanation, ignoring other income and deductions..

hmmm interesting. i see. ok

LoveFifteen
May 14th, 2007, 05:51 AM
I can think of a bigger scam!

$25 to become a "Lifetime Member of WTAWorld" :help:

Meesh
May 14th, 2007, 02:07 PM
i think the idea of paying for something all year that you can only use 3 weeks out of the year seems REALLY REALLY retarded. why not put that money into a high yield savings account and then go on your vacation 3 weeks a year that seems A LOT cheaper.

That's what my friends and I do.... we all opened a savings account and did direct deposit for a year to rent a cabin for a week in the mountains of NC . Right before we leave we order debit cards from the bank and our entire trip (food, gas , lodging, ) was paid for.

It took my dad forever to get out of his timeshare in Hutchinson Island FL. He owned it during the really bad hurricanes in 83 or 84... and the timeshare got hit. so did my dad w/ the fee's.

My next trip is Machu Pichu in Peru and we are getting ready to start planning and figure out how much we need to put away for it.

Wannabeknowitall
May 14th, 2007, 02:20 PM
I can think of a bigger scam!

$25 to become a "Lifetime Member of WTAWorld" :help:

:lol:
I mentioned that before and that thread disaapeared. :unsure:
I equated it to the postal service stamps.
I don't think the admin like people questioning their intent though.
But I'll give it two years before the premium lifetime members have to pay another 25 bucks to be premium lifetime members.

SJW
May 14th, 2007, 02:59 PM
We have one in Barbados...even though we have land there, and most of my family still live there, the place was cheap and beautiful because it was brand new.

The fact that its in Barbados gives us a lot of points which we use to go other places. I think it was a great investment.

Here it is:

http://www.thecrane.com/

LoveFifteen
May 14th, 2007, 04:18 PM
:lol:
I mentioned that before and that thread disaapeared. :unsure:
I equated it to the postal service stamps.
I don't think the admin like people questioning their intent though.
But I'll give it two years before the premium lifetime members have to pay another 25 bucks to be premium lifetime members.


I will TOTALLY become a Premium Lifetime Member if it will give me protection from being banned and blank check to resume my completely irrational, embarrassingly childish Henin hate campaign! :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:

Rocketta
May 14th, 2007, 04:24 PM
I will TOTALLY become a Premium Lifetime Member if it will give me protection from being banned and blank check to resume my completely irrational, embarrassingly childish Henin hate campaign! :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:

don't bother it won't all it will do is donate the $25...saw someone get permabanned the other day. :)

Fingon
May 14th, 2007, 04:56 PM
i think the idea of paying for something all year that you can only use 3 weeks out of the year seems REALLY REALLY retarded. why not put that money into a high yield savings account and then go on your vacation 3 weeks a year that seems A LOT cheaper.


do you know any word other than retarded? I guess you are called that often that's why you use it so much.

Fingon
May 14th, 2007, 04:59 PM
Mortgage interest is a tax deduction. As are property taxes that you pay on your property.

Say you own a $100,000 home, have paid $20,000, and have a $80,000 mortgage.
Say your monthly mortage payments are $800, for a total of of $9600 per year.
And say in the current year, $4000 of that was interest.

On your tax return, you first enter all of your income (wages, interest earned, etc.) then you calculate deductions from the earnings, before calculating your tax owed.

Say your total income was $50,000.
Instead of paying income tax on the $50,000, you deduct $4,000 and you own tax only on $46,000 of income.

Also as a property owner, you pay property tax. That amount is also decucted from your incomve.

So say you paid $2,000 in property taxes for the year.

Then you calculate your tax owed on only $44,000.

This is just a quick but basic explanation, ignoring other income and deductions..

I don't know the US system, but in Canada that just wouldn't work.

You cannot deduct interest payment unless they are related to an income generating business, neither the property taxes or your home and certainly not of one used for recreating purposes.

They way it might work for time sharing is if you don't actually use it but rent it, in that case you are generating income that is taxable and you can deduct any expenses on that property.

Rocketta
May 14th, 2007, 05:04 PM
It works both ways for Time Shares....the loan is technically a mortgage and the interest is deductable as is all mortgage interst. The catch-22 is you have to itemize to use it and it's usually hard to have enough itemized deductions to be more beneficial than the standard deduction. :shrug:

LoveFifteen
May 14th, 2007, 05:11 PM
don't bother it won't all it will do is donate the $25...saw someone get permabanned the other day. :)

:sobbing:

I'm so sad that I'll get it trouble if I ever make fun of Justine's herpes and failed marriage courageous struggles against adversity.

Helen Lawson
May 14th, 2007, 06:47 PM
It depends what you want it for. If you enjoy/plan on going to the same place every year for vacation for many years, then it's not a bad deal, much cheaper and nicer than a hotel in most instances. If you have a good one (location and time), then you can also trade for other week(s) at other locations. Like around Disney there are loads of genuinely nice timeshares that are goregous and if you have young children and plan to come to Disney/Universal mots years for m 10-15 years, then it's a deal and far nicer than a hotel, at least nicer than something that's less that $300-$400 a night.

RVD
May 14th, 2007, 09:24 PM
It depends what you want it for. If you enjoy/plan on going to the same place every year for vacation for many years, then it's not a bad deal, much cheaper and nicer than a hotel in most instances. If you have a good one (location and time), then you can also trade for other week(s) at other locations. Like around Disney there are loads of genuinely nice timeshares that are goregous and if you have young children and plan to come to Disney/Universal mots years for m 10-15 years, then it's a deal and far nicer than a hotel, at least nicer than something that's less that $300-$400 a night.Still, if your first second and third choice destinations are completely booked, what then? A trip to Death Valley, USA? :lol:

Also, if you're going to pay that much money, then you should be buying the property outright. And not having some strange folks from around the world with their weird sexual fetishes and habits damaging and contaminating the place. :scared: :tape: Though it's probably different with a hotel timeshare because you have a regular daily staff and clean-up crew.

Rocketta, I feel ya on that tax break idea. But how can you generate enough to claim on your taxes? :shrug: You'd have to own the timeshare unit. And by the time that happens, you'd be mummified. :lol: :lol:

Helen Lawson
May 14th, 2007, 09:28 PM
Still, if your first second and third choice destinations are completely booked, what then? A trip to Death Valley, USA? :lol:

Also, if you're going to pay that much money, then you should be buying the property outright. And not having some strange folks from around the world with their weird sexual fetishes and habits damaging and contaminating the place. :scared: :tape: Though it's probably different with a hotel timeshare because you have a regular daily staff and clean-up crew.

Rocketta, I feel ya on that tax break idea. But how can you generate enough to claim on your taxes? :shrug: You'd have to own the timeshare unit. And by the time that happens, you'd be mummified. :lol: :lol:

I believe the better ones are thoroughly cleaned after use, hon! I've been through some time-share stuff because I know people who sell, plus you get free stuff. Some of them are gorgeous!

Helen Lawson
May 14th, 2007, 09:29 PM
Mortgage interest is a tax deduction. As are property taxes that you pay on your property.

Say you own a $100,000 home, have paid $20,000, and have a $80,000 mortgage.
Say your monthly mortage payments are $800, for a total of of $9600 per year.
And say in the current year, $4000 of that was interest.

On your tax return, you first enter all of your income (wages, interest earned, etc.) then you calculate deductions from the earnings, before calculating your tax owed.

Say your total income was $50,000.
Instead of paying income tax on the $50,000, you deduct $4,000 and you own tax only on $46,000 of income.

Also as a property owner, you pay property tax. That amount is also decucted from your incomve.

So say you paid $2,000 in property taxes for the year.

Then you calculate your tax owed on only $44,000.

This is just a quick but basic explanation, ignoring other income and deductions..

Can you deduct the mortgage interest and property taxes off a second home or a vacation home? I don't think you can do that on a rental property, but I honestly don't know.

drake3781
May 14th, 2007, 10:11 PM
Can you deduct the mortgage interest and property taxes off a second home or a vacation home? I don't think you can do that on a rental property, but I honestly don't know.


That, I don't know. You mght be right.

RVD doesn't seem to be reading or acknowledging what was written by me/you/others about the nicer/more reputable timeshares. I guess reading the thread title, he/she din;t ask for adivce/info from those happy wtih it, :shrug:

RVD
May 15th, 2007, 02:16 AM
That, I don't know. You mght be right.

RVD doesn't seem to be reading or acknowledging what was written by me/you/others about the nicer/more reputable timeshares. I guess reading the thread title, he/she din;t ask for adivce/info from those happy wtih it, :shrug:Huh? What? Did you say something? :lol:

Naw, but I did reply to Helen's #28 post with my #29. I posted an acknowledgment on the 'cleaner unit' aspect. :lol:

But sure, in direct response to there being good ones out there...
They are certainly the exceptions, IMHO. It's possible that you don't agree, but are these things regulated at all? If not, and I can't locate any documentation that says otherwise, how can the point be made that the scam -properties don't outnumber the reputable ones? Moreover, not everyone wants to timeshare through a hotel, and hotels don't service every part of the globe.
Some like the mountains, or a small island locale. So that alone rules out Helen’s faves. ;)

I liken the timeshare racket to the weight-loss, vitamin, insurance, and pyramid rackets out there, in that some actually meet with success. But the vast majority don’t.

P.S.
I swear to all that is good in the world that I posted a reply to your #6. For some odd reason, I can't locate it. It’s possible that I accidentally deleted it, or that it simply failed to post. :shrug:
But I basically stated that your parent's timeshare packet sounds great, but they were more the exception, not the rule. And that I wouldn't dare ask about the details of their contract, because I didn't want to be nosey.

Please pardon the misunderstanding. I wasn't trying to ignore you, Helen, or anyone else. :angel:

Wigglytuff
May 15th, 2007, 03:31 AM
I can think of a bigger scam!

$25 to become a "Lifetime Member of WTAWorld" :help:

sure if you are counting pennies. i dont know that kind of poverty. :wavey: thankfully i have a JOB and if i see something that i like i can give money to it. thats why i give to charity, :wavey: . one day you will have enough money that you can afford to give $25 to support a website and help pay for bandwidth.

drake3781
May 15th, 2007, 04:49 AM
Huh? What? Did you say something? :lol:

Naw, but I did reply to Helen's #28 post with my #29. I posted an acknowledgment on the 'cleaner unit' aspect. :lol:

But sure, in direct response to there being good ones out there...
They are certainly the exceptions, IMHO. It's possible that you don't agree, but are these things regulated at all? If not, and I can't locate any documentation that says otherwise, how can the point be made that the scam -properties don't outnumber the reputable ones? Moreover, not everyone wants to timeshare through a hotel, and hotels don't service every part of the globe.
Some like the mountains, or a small island locale. So that alone rules out Helen’s faves. ;)

I liken the timeshare racket to the weight-loss, vitamin, insurance, and pyramid rackets out there, in that some actually meet with success. But the vast majority don’t.

P.S.
I swear to all that is good in the world that I posted a reply to your #6. For some odd reason, I can't locate it. It’s possible that I accidentally deleted it, or that it simply failed to post. :shrug:
But I basically stated that your parent's timeshare packet sounds great, but they were more the exception, not the rule. And that I wouldn't dare ask about the details of their contract, because I didn't want to be nosey.

Please pardon the misunderstanding. I wasn't trying to ignore you, Helen, or anyone else. :angel:


Well, thanks! I guess you are a name-changed ReeVeeDynasty? Or am I crazy? :wavey:

Anyway, if you are interested in doing it again, just check out Marriott. You got me curious and I checked... looks like you can buy one for less than $10,000. Then you just use it or exchange it every year. Can be anywhere in the world, and the Marriott properties are always very nice. (They are well-known for choosing excellent locations.)

BTW these are NOT hotels. They are condo-type timeshare units. Here is the one in Kauai, for example, an easy flight for you. ;) And the main page shows all the locations you can swap for. And you can swap for others outside the Marriott network, too.

http://www.vacationclub.com/resorts/ka/default.jsp

This is a beautiful place - 2 BR - ioceanfront - n South Carolina. Floating week. Asking price is $8900 (fees are $700/yr) and you can make a lower offer, and it includes a free week anywhere, which the owner has banked. It is deeded, whcih means it is yours to sell or will to your children.

http://www.buyandselltimeshares.com/timeshare/26693

I'm not trying to - or interested in - pushing you on this but just wanted you to know that it's not all bad if you buy with the right company.

======================================

How are you doing? Long time, no see! :wavey:

Wigglytuff
May 15th, 2007, 05:04 AM
10,000$ !!!!


that fucking crazy. depending on what you do for vacation that can be as many as 12 vacations, (putting it in a high yield account it will earn 450$ year one. less year two because you take out 1,000. and so on for next years) thats with transport and meals included. but all in all that sounds like a waste of money. WASTE.
hell not all vacations need cost 1,000. one of my plans it go on on "whale watch weekend) three days, guaranteed to see some whales includes all transport, food, and housing for just $650. leaving $350 in the account to earn interest for use next year.

sorry, i guess if thats what you WANT to do, its not a scam because scams trick you into doing something different than what you would expect, but you know what you are doing and its want you, its all good, but for me i know i would find other ways to spend that money and have more fun.

mandy7
May 15th, 2007, 06:41 AM
sure if you are counting pennies. i dont know that kind of poverty. :wavey: thankfully i have a JOB and if i see something that i like i can give money to it. thats why i give to charity, :wavey: . one day you will have enough money that you can afford to give $25 to support a website and help pay for bandwidth.

what a load of crap
i got a job, i can afford it, i mean $25, that's like €20,-/€21,-
yet i ain't gonna pay for a bigger avatar
and a signature with images of a kiddy cartoon

and good on ya for giving to charity :yeah:
i do it too
but bandwidth ain't on my charity list
:wavey:

RVD
May 15th, 2007, 06:42 AM
Well, thanks! I guess you are a name-changed ReeVeeDynasty? Or am I crazy? :wavey:

Anyway, if you are interested in doing it again, just check out Marriott. You got me curious and I checked... looks like you can buy one for less than $10,000. Then you just use it or exchange it every year. Can be anywhere in the world, and the Marriott properties are always very nice. (They are well-known for choosing excellent locations.)

BTW these are NOT hotels. They are condo-type timeshare units. Here is the one in Kauai, for example, an easy flight for you. ;) And the main page shows all the locations you can swap for. And you can swap for others outside the Marriott network, too.

http://www.vacationclub.com/resorts/ka/default.jsp

This is a beautiful place - 2 BR - ioceanfront - n South Carolina. Floating week. Asking price is $8900 (fees are $700/yr) and you can make a lower offer, and it includes a free week anywhere, which the owner has banked. It is deeded, whcih means it is yours to sell or will to your children.

http://www.buyandselltimeshares.com/timeshare/26693

I'm not trying to - or interested in - pushing you on this but just wanted you to know that it's not all bad if you buy with the right company.

======================================

How are you doing? Long time, no see! :wavey:Yep. I'm the new and hopefully improved version of ReeVeeDynasty. :lol: I felt it was time to shed my skin. :D

Both are beautiful looking properties for sure. Though it's hard to tell how much the photos have been retouched. Know what I mean? :)

I also see where the second one's calender allows for scheduling all the way through 2017, but doesn't list which dates are already reserved. :fiery: This was typically the problem I had with my package. I could never get it when I wanted it, unless I reserved 3 years out. Plus, there was always someone with a Premium or Platinum Package who'd slip in and snag my date. :lol: I can laugh now, but back then it wasn't funny because my investment wasn't working for me.

Still, at $8,900.00 to $10,000.00 a contract [not including maintenance fees], you want to go when you want, where you want, no matter the season. But yeah, I suppose it works for some. I'm picky though. ;) :wavey:

mandy7
May 15th, 2007, 06:43 AM
Anyhow, one of my clients has a 2nd house in spain,
not very deductable.
but he's 60 and looking to move there when he stops working in 5 years
such a nice old man by the way

RVD
May 15th, 2007, 07:26 AM
Anyhow, one of my clients has a 2nd house in spain,
not very deductable.
but he's 60 and looking to move there when he stops working in 5 years
such a nice old man by the wayHe paid off his contract in full and owns it now?
That's GREAT!!
I just wonder how many years it took, and what the final payoff was?

mandy7
May 15th, 2007, 07:28 AM
He paid off his contract in full and owns it now?
That's GREAT!!
I just wonder how many years it took, and what the final payoff was?

i dunno, he's onlybeen my client for a year
before that his business was handled by my ex-colleague
(i work at an accounting-firm by the way)

Wigglytuff
May 15th, 2007, 01:37 PM
what a load of crap
[COLOR=navy]i got a job, i can afford it

of course you can :lol: :lol: :tape: :tape: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

mandy7
May 15th, 2007, 01:41 PM
haha, 1st you doubt i'm a girl, now you doubt i have a job :lol:
that's great
you're sooooooooooooooooooooooo funny :hug:

Wigglytuff
May 15th, 2007, 01:42 PM
Yep. I'm the new and hopefully improved version of ReeVeeDynasty. :lol: I felt it was time to shed my skin. :D

Both are beautiful looking properties for sure. Though it's hard to tell how much the photos have been retouched. Know what I mean? :)

I also see where the second one's calender allows for scheduling all the way through 2017, but doesn't list which dates are already reserved. :fiery: This was typically the problem I had with my package. I could never get it when I wanted it, unless I reserved 3 years out. Plus, there was always someone with a Premium or Platinum Package who'd slip in and snag my date. :lol: I can laugh now, but back then it wasn't funny because my investment wasn't working for me.

Still, at $8,900.00 to $10,000.00 a contract [not including maintenance fees], you want to go when you want, where you want, no matter the season. But yeah, I suppose it works for some. I'm picky though. ;) :wavey:

baby you dont need improvement :kiss: :hearts: :hearts:

anyway, like you said for 8k i want to go where i want, when i want and not have to share :ras:

RVD
May 15th, 2007, 08:58 PM
baby you dont need improvement :kiss: :hearts: :hearts::lol:
And neither do you, you round pink puffy softy. :drool: :kiss: :lol:
anyway, like you said for 8k i want to go where i want, when i want and not have to share :ras:Yeah. I'm used to this little thing called 'convenience', at my discretion. :lol:

Wigglytuff
May 16th, 2007, 04:10 AM
:lol:
And neither do you, you round pink puffy softy. :drool: :kiss: :lol:
Yeah. I'm used to this little thing called 'convenience', at my discretion. :lol:

:lol: :lol:

:worship: :worship: :worship: on all counts!!!

nikita771
Jul 2nd, 2007, 02:12 PM
I have a time share and I love it. I haven't traveled out of the USA yet, but I have found it to be well worth it. I am able to deduct the interest from my taxes each year and I will own it. So, it is willable and if it's ever sold - my money isn't gone. I've stayed in some wonderful places and have zero regrets. Granted, it's not for everyone - but the fact that I'm not limited to the property that I purchased makes it's interesting.