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Mikey B
Apr 2nd, 2007, 04:45 PM
bad news guys, maria has withdrawn from fed cup and charleston due to her hamstring and a shoulder injury... which is new news to me but she said she's had it since hong kong back in january!!!

check out her official site for all the info...

the next time we'll see her is rome, hopefully...

nelsondan
Apr 2nd, 2007, 04:53 PM
when I read this---first post in "what's wrong with maria?", I wondered.

The problem was her serve, than Serena's returns. Serena returns well, but even she can't keep breaking a good server. Apart from the DFs, Maria's serve was weak and didn't dominate the points as it needed to - or normally does. She was serving first serves at 90 mph and average 97 - a bit different from the 117 she was managing at the USO and at times in Oz. even against venus her serve was much better, up to 115 at times, and averaging 105. No wonder they were hiot back with interest.

So what is the matter with maria's serve. Injury, yips, or what????




So---in a way----this is not completely bad news---if it is a physical thing which can be fixed.

Aravanecaravan
Apr 2nd, 2007, 05:23 PM
I knew it wasn't right. In OZ, I knew from her first match against Pin that her serve was off--10 mph on average at least. No one wanted to believe it, but if you watched T&S, it was obvious. All through the AO. When I saw the reruns of Hong Kong after that, I was convinced. It was not the same Maria as at the tail end of 2006. At no point in 2007 has she served remotely the way she is able. Some matches were better (or worse) than others, but even when she was serving better, still, way too much inconsistency to be "Maria".

This is actually good news, as far as I'm concerned. Not that Maria is hurt, obviously. I hope she recoveres quickly and completely. But it should be piece of mind for all concerned about her that this is not the real Maria Sharapova we've been seeing. Tough and gritty, good enough to beat all but a few, but obviously hurt.

Sad that Maria will not be able to represent Russia in Fed Cup--I am sure Goldenlox et al will have a field day with that one--but better that she take the time to get well and not do damage that will be irreparable. I've said before that I believe Maria is managed well--scheduling, doctors, etc. Now I am sure of it. They could have let her play and ruin her career. Fortunately, they didn't.

Get well, Masha, and know that your fans believe in you 150%.

LDF
Apr 2nd, 2007, 05:24 PM
I knew it wasn't right. In OZ, I knew from her first match against Pin that her serve was off--10 mph on average at least. No one wanted to believe it, but if you watched T&S, it was obvious. All through the AO. When I saw the reruns of Hong Kong after that, I was convinced. It was not the same Maria as at the tail end of 2006. At no point in 2007 has she served remotely the way she is able. Some matches were better (or worse) than others, but even when she was serving better, still, way too much inconsistency to be "Maria".

This is actually good news, as far as I'm concerned. Not that Maria is hurt, obviously. I hope she recoveres quickly and completely. But it should be piece of mind for all concerned about her that this is not the real Maria Sharapova we've been seeing. Tough and gritty, good enough to beat all but a few, but obviously hurt.

Sad that Maria will not be able to represent Russia in Fed Cup--I am sure Goldenlox et al will have a field day with that one--but better that she take the time to get well and not do damage that will be irreparable. I've said before that I believe Maria is managed well--scheduling, doctors, etc. Now I am sure of it. They could have let her play and ruin her career. Fortunately, they didn't.

Get well, Masha, and know that your fans believe in you 150%.

Great post - I agree with everything you've said :)

Get well soon, Maria :awww: :hug:

xan
Apr 2nd, 2007, 05:25 PM
Yeah. it was obvious. But a lot of people didn't notice her serve was so off in pace as well as accuracy - which suggests an injury.

Hope she makes a quick recovery.

But Mikey - I don't like the thread title. it's so negative.

Lefty.
Apr 2nd, 2007, 05:26 PM
Ah, that's why she's really been playing sub-par this year. :sad:

Hope you will get well soon Maria. :hug:

Emina.
Apr 2nd, 2007, 05:29 PM
will they fine her for withdrawing? :o

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Princeza
Apr 2nd, 2007, 06:04 PM
i was waiting so much for her fed cup debut :sobbing:
i hope she'll get well soon

Rod the Bama
Apr 2nd, 2007, 08:36 PM
I think Masha is making the right move withdrawing. I had a feeling that there something wrong with her physically. I hope she gets well soon and returns injury free. :hearts:

dybbuk
Apr 2nd, 2007, 08:38 PM
Masha :sad: get well soon :hug:

Сузи
Apr 2nd, 2007, 09:44 PM
Well I'm glad that we finally know whats wrong with her but sad that she won't be playing for a while. But i prefer her taking the time that she needs off and coming back 100% rather than continue to see her struggle. Get well soon Masha! :hug:

-SheLL-
Apr 3rd, 2007, 12:03 AM
:awww: Masha... :hug: get better soon...

Dan23
Apr 3rd, 2007, 12:04 AM
all I can say is :bigcry:

Dan23
Apr 3rd, 2007, 12:08 AM
I haven't wanted to talk a lot about my injuries, but I'm afraid it has become obvious that I am having some problems with my right shoulder and left hamstring. I hurt my shoulder right before I started playing in Hong Kong, and kept hoping that I could work through it. I was told by doctors I had pretty severe inflammation, but decided to give it a shot. I think the anti-inflams and treatment helped me get through H.K and Australia. Unfortunately, my shoulder hasn't been able to be normal on its own, without the medicine.

My doctors have a positive outlook, despite telling me I cannot play for a while. They said I must drop out of the next two events, but they are confident that, with five or six weeks of rest, I will be ready for the next events. I am especially bummed about the Fed Cup, as I was looking forward to playing in Moscow, and representing my country in a team environment for the first time. I will be speaking with the Russian Federation soon about future matches. The Family Circle Cup is always a great event, and a tournament I look forward to competing in again.

It's difficult for me to take time off from tennis, but the first thing is my health and that's something that I have made a big priority in my career. I can only look forward to getting back on the court ASAP. Thanks, as always, for your support.
:sobbing: why didnt she just pull out of Tokyo and IW :shrug: :crying2:

the cat
Apr 3rd, 2007, 12:28 AM
Perhaps huge appearance fees are involved Dan. Maria should not have been playing injured. Now her confidence is ruined and she needs some time off to recover from her injuries.

Dan23
Apr 3rd, 2007, 12:43 AM
Perhaps huge appearance fees are involved Dan. Maria should not have been playing injured. Now her confidence is ruined and she needs some time off to recover from her injuries.
Yeah im sure thats what it is (esp for Japan)...now shes left with hardly any more ranking points than she would have had if she'd skipped tournaments and another ruined lead up to RG and Wimbledon

Andy.
Apr 3rd, 2007, 01:49 AM
Well at least we know whats been behind all her problems. I hope this break will do the trick and she will come back healthy and refreshed. Its been a really tough start to the season for her but Im sure she will bounce back from this and plus she does have points to defend for a while. Get well soon Masha.

myxomatosis
Apr 3rd, 2007, 02:42 AM
Downward spiral? Nah. :p
It's a tough time for sure, but it's not like Maria hasn't gone through rough patches before. Could be a bumpy ride for a while, but Maria ain't tough as nails for nothin. We all saw how she played at the USO. She'll be back at that level, given time to heal and regain her confidence. :yeah:

Andy.
Apr 3rd, 2007, 03:34 AM
I actually think it might help Maria to have this break and refresh not only her body but her mind. She seems like she just needs some time away to collect her game and her thoughts and when she is ready to come back she will come back strongly.

bellascarlett
Apr 3rd, 2007, 03:58 AM
oh this is really starting to be a nightmare of a start of the year for Maria and for us, her fans. :crying2: :sobbing: :tears: It's just so dissapointing how things could turn so quickly. She was playing so well at the end of last year and she had arguably her best year. This sucks. But we've known something was up since the start of the year. Hopefully with this long break, she gets to completely heal and gets to sort out everything that needs sorting out. Rest that mind and body and get that confidence up up up.

I just want this tennis nightmare to end quickly! Maria, you better win Wimbledon or the USO this year! :( ;)

Fed Cup without Maria again. :sad: This would have been the best debut as it would be against a beatable team. I think the next maybe the US? :unsure:

Lefty.
Apr 3rd, 2007, 04:03 AM
Well most likely the US since Justine and Kim aren't playing for Belgium and we have Venus and Serena. I would personally be :tape: at our team if we don't win at least 4-1 though. :o :lol: But even if Russia plays against the US if both win their ties this time around, I don't know if Venus and Serena will play in the tie after Wimbledon. So the US might be beatable at that time.

dybbuk
Apr 3rd, 2007, 04:35 AM
I personally would hope for a tie between Venus/Serena and Maria/Kuzy :hearts:

Shimizu Amon
Apr 3rd, 2007, 04:46 AM
It doesn't come as a shock to me. The way Masha was playing already suggested the possibility of an injury. I just think it's too bad that she played such a long time with an injury.
Hope she will take her time to heal. :hug: get well soon Masha.

TaliaSecondServe
Apr 3rd, 2007, 06:02 AM
They could have let her play and ruin her career. Fortunately, they didn't.

Why did they let her play in AO if "I was told by doctors I had pretty severe inflammation"?
I don't know it seems Maria just has clear priorities such as GS and American hard tournies. Other than that when it comes to clay or something she is injured. I don't blame her or anything..
It's just a matter of priorities still. If she was injured in January she could take a break then to recover and be ready for clay season. Probably that not very wise from the point that she has much more chances on hard, but that could be wise from the point of not making the injury worse.
Maria, get well soon and make your health a real priority :hug:

Steve-o
Apr 3rd, 2007, 06:48 AM
Not good. I wish Maria had sat out some of the early season instead of playing injured. She has made some bad decisions this year, without doubt. :sad:

Il Primo!
Apr 3rd, 2007, 06:55 AM
It saddens me to know her injured. Hope her mind/head is not hurt as well.
Take a good rest and come back stronger Maria :hug:

Maria Croft
Apr 3rd, 2007, 10:18 AM
I noticed her swing on her serve looked weird sometimes (even posted something about that in another thread) so this isn't really a big surprise, still I really didn’t put much thought into it. I hope she can get over this quickly, it took her forever to heal probably from her last shoulder injury (that misdiagnosed rib)

And again the horrible thread title, what’s up with that…..

At least now we know what's wrong and we can hope for a good and fast recovery, feel better Maria! :)

Emina.
Apr 3rd, 2007, 10:23 AM
we need a '' Get Well Soon Masha'' cheering thread ;) :)

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swissmr
Apr 3rd, 2007, 10:23 AM
I wouldn't say the downward spiral continues. I would say the upward spiral begins :cool:
If she takes time to properly recover from this injury then finally we can get the Maria of 2006 back. I think she will defend her US Open at least and hopefully she can win wimbledon.

Btw I just remembered - a few weeks ago i downloaded one of Maria's Hong Kong matches from the video vault out of curiosity, and during a few of the changeovers she was stretching her shoulder.

Emina.
Apr 3rd, 2007, 10:26 AM
Btw I just remembered - a few weeks ago i downloaded one of Maria's Hong Kong matches from the video vault out of curiosity, and during a few of the changeovers she was stretching her shoulder.

i remember there were some pictures too :awww:

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ImaVeggie
Apr 3rd, 2007, 10:59 AM
Are there any specifics? What is specifically wrong with her shoulder and hamstring? Anyone know?

Aravanecaravan
Apr 3rd, 2007, 02:24 PM
LOL at how the trolls in GM are trying to spin this. She'd either be too scared to play if she withdrew or she's too dumb because she played with an injury. She's in a catch 22 no matter what she does, because every week we hear how it's an "epidemic" of player withdrawals on the WTA. Don't think for a minute that the press and other haters wouldn't have barbequed Maria if she had withdrawn from IW or Miami.

The best one is that this is the "real" Sharapova and she's making excuses because she got waxed by a healthy Serena.

Riiiiight. Barring the third set of their WTA YEC final, Serena's never been injured during or for *any* of their matches. But you can't get a Williams fan to stop rationalizing long enough to realize that. I guess they believe that Saferova, Rodionova, and Bammer are all better than Maria....add Ivanovic and Zvonareva too--they took 6-1 sets off of Masha. Does anyone really think that would ever happen to a healthy Sharapova?

It's as though none of them ever saw Maria play tennis before. How much thinking does it really take to realize that at a minimum, Sharapova's serve is off a good 10% in terms of speed from where it has been the past two years?

I also reported this a week ago when I got back from Miami--apart from her slower serve, I noticed that on her returns against Chan and Venus Williams she was not putting much on them except for a few isolated points during the match. She was not hitting as hard as Maria Sharapova typically hits, that's for sure. I thought it might have been wind-related, but now we know differently.

Just get better, Maria. When you're healthy, you're the best.

Kitten63
Apr 3rd, 2007, 11:02 PM
Get well soon Maria!

xan
Apr 4th, 2007, 01:55 PM
How can i live with no Maria for six weeks ?

As for her play, I thought she was very good on everything but serve. if she can beat Venus injured, she must be doing something right.

Dan23
Apr 4th, 2007, 02:11 PM
Yea...6 more weeks of no Maria on a tennis court :( :banghead:

Martian Jeza
Apr 4th, 2007, 02:23 PM
Yea...6 more weeks of no Maria on a tennis court :( :banghead:

better this than having an underachieving Maria on courts, don't you think so ?

Maria Croft
Apr 4th, 2007, 02:49 PM
How can i live with no Maria for six weeks ?

As for her play, I thought she was very good on everything but serve. if she can beat Venus injured, she must be doing something right.

I realised this today as well :sad:

Martian Jeza
Apr 4th, 2007, 02:53 PM
As I said to Dan on MSN, better 6 weeks than 3 years 1/2 ... So cheer up Masha fans ;)

Aravanecaravan
Apr 4th, 2007, 03:06 PM
How can i live with no Maria for six weeks ?

As for her play, I thought she was very good on everything but serve. if she can beat Venus injured, she must be doing something right.

I don't think beating Venus was anything particularly special--other than to say "take that". I DO think her injury affected the pace and depth on her groundsrokes. I was sitting behind the south baseline at Key Biscayne, in section 417, right where Maria said she'd have to see it from (i.e., high up) to evaluate her game, and I thought it was pretty obvious that she wasn't hitting with all that much depth. Part of that was because she was trying to control her shots in the wind, but it was apparent that when she stepped in to tee off on a short ball, it didn't have the "oompf" it normally does.

Let's put it this way--Maria didn't beat Venus because of the quality of tennis she was playing. She can play infinitely better than that. She won because of her superior mental strength, and her ability to fight. That can get her through 95% of the time. But to win big matches, she is going to need to be healthy.

Lefty.
Apr 4th, 2007, 04:32 PM
better this than having an underachieving Maria on courts, don't you think so ?

Yes, I think that's very true. It's better to wait out this six weeks and have her winning matches she should be and having her be back to her normal self than having her play all through this and be having disappointing losses to people she shouldn't be losing to.

nelsondan
Apr 4th, 2007, 04:41 PM
You get used to seeing pictures posted of maria almost daily, and playing a couple of events each month---and then---she is gone.

I am not complaining---just savoring the anticipation of her return.

XCoco
Apr 5th, 2007, 02:59 PM
The post was posted since Monday :eek: . I just know she won't for a while right now :sad: . It's a shame she won't play for the Fed Cup.

Get well soon Maria :wavey: .

Doc
Apr 5th, 2007, 03:03 PM
It's a pity for Maria not to play Fed Cup. But maybe later.

I hope Maria takes a good break and can come back on top form for the French and Wimbledon.

Il Primo!
Apr 5th, 2007, 03:08 PM
Everyone is so sad in here :hug: . It's only physical don't worry. She still have a great technique in her serve/BH. Maria, rest and regroup :hug:

We should do a poll to guess the moment she will bounce back :p.

quahogster
Apr 12th, 2007, 05:39 AM
I know, too much depression in here.

Relax like Masha is probably doing right now. We'll all still be here when she comes back. :)