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tennisIlove09
Apr 1st, 2007, 06:29 PM
...will she be patient enough on the clay to win another French Open? Justine will be even tougher ont he clay to beat ...
Serena's serve has to be more consistent (like it was in Australia) as opposed to the finals of Miami to do well.

paranr
Apr 1st, 2007, 06:31 PM
...will she be patient enough on the clay to win another French Open? Justine will be even tougher ont he clay to beat ...
Serena's serve has to be more consistent (like it was in Australia) as opposed to the finals of Miami to do well.

no , she is gonna lose to Shahar in the quarter-finals!

serenafan08
Apr 1st, 2007, 06:37 PM
no , she is gonna loose to Shahar in the quarter-finals!

You know, I was thinking about that. If there's a chance for Shahar to beat Serena, it will be on clay. Clay will give Shahar the slower pace and chance to chase down more of Serena's balls and frustrate her into errors. I still think Serena can beat Shahar on clay, but it will be tough.

To answer the initial post, the answer is quite clear - Serena can do anything she puts her mind to. If she wants to win Roland Garros, she can do it.

Bruno71
Apr 1st, 2007, 07:21 PM
Serena will be a devil on clay, but I still see her as playing the role of spoiler for Justine. I could see Serena easily beating just about any other player on clay, but Justine to me is the queen of clay until we see otherwise. And I'm not saying that's impossible, just unlikely in my mind.

Serenita
Apr 1st, 2007, 07:52 PM
Nice to see Serena is the player to Beat!!

VS Fan
Apr 1st, 2007, 08:28 PM
In 2002 Serena played close and lost a tiebreak in Berlin, then WON a close match in Rome. Then WON the RG, but Justine had lost in early rounds.

In 2003 at RG, Serena was leading 4-2 30-0 in the third when the "incident" occured. She then lost 5-7.

The only clay match tha Juju won going away was Charleston in 2003.

So, what I am saying is that Serena has been VERY competitive on clay with Juju. ...Even though her W-L vs Juju on this surface is 1-3.

MrSerenaWilliams
Apr 1st, 2007, 09:14 PM
I think it'll be a very competitive clay season between the two of them. When Justine's not there, Serena will propably win the title, and vice-versa. I hope they meet in the RG final :hearts: ( :secret: or Venus v. Serena:hearts::angel: )

jdyshrky
Apr 1st, 2007, 09:24 PM
Little things such as court surface are really irrelevant when it comes to Serena Williams. We can speculate and moot the point but really the only factor in any of her matches is herself. At the beginning of January this year I and many other fans were suprised when she won a round in the AusOpen, now we assume she'll win the French, isnt it funny how things change so quick...cr-cr-cr-crazy!

Bruno71
Apr 1st, 2007, 09:25 PM
In 2002 Serena played close and lost a tiebreak in Berlin, then WON a close match in Rome. Then WON the RG, but Justine had lost in early rounds.

In 2003 at RG, Serena was leading 4-2 30-0 in the third when the "incident" occured. She then lost 5-7.

The only clay match tha Juju won going away was Charleston in 2003.

So, what I am saying is that Serena has been VERY competitive on clay with Juju. ...Even though her W-L vs Juju on this surface is 1-3.

Matches, win-loss records, surface records, etc. from 4 & 5 years ago deserve a look, but they cannot possibly tell the story of 2007. People who were going by results from back then would never in their wildest imaginations have allowed the possibility of Justine having match points on Serena on a hardcourt yesterday. I base my opinion of the clay matchup more on the recent play of both players on the surface. Serena is a big question mark there though, I'll grant you.

Serena!
Apr 1st, 2007, 09:35 PM
yeah she'll be good but if she plays justine she'll have to be better

Chrissie-fan
Apr 1st, 2007, 09:44 PM
I think it'll be a very competitive clay season between the two of them. When Justine's not there, Serena will propably win the title, and vice-versa. I hope they meet in the RG final :hearts: ( :secret: or Venus v. Serena:hearts::angel: )
Since Serena won't be the No 2 seed it's entirely possible that they will have to play each other in the semis or quarter finals though (assuming that both win their matches in the earlier rounds).

Steffica Greles
Apr 1st, 2007, 10:01 PM
Well. Serena defeated Justine in the 2002 Italian Open final, just the week after Justine had defeated her in the final of Berlin.

After the Rome final, Justine herself said that there was nothing she had been able to do -- Serena had played too well.

I myself remember that Serena was incredibly focused during the 2002 clay season because she BADLY wanted a second grandslam title after almost 3 years without one.

And she played breathtakingly in her synchronisation of brutal power hitting and court coverage, overcoming Pierce, Capriati and an altogether more experienced clay court player than herself in Venus.

nytrainer
Apr 1st, 2007, 10:10 PM
Serena will have to pick up her conditioning and have much better foot work to beat Henin on clay. Fortunately, Henin and Mauresmo are great clay court players and Serena will not beat them unless she works for it.

I think Serena is a great athlete and a fantastic player. However, I want her to get it together and live up to her true potential. I am glad that she is a fighter and I get pumped up when she wins but her half strokes, mishits and poor footwork have to go.

Hopefully she will get it together for the clay court season and we fans get to see some good tennis along with the drama.

DavidEllul
Apr 1st, 2007, 10:11 PM
Serena could possibly win the French this year.

But i still give the edge to justine.. she is simply amazing on clay, especially in Roland Garros which is so damn emotional for her

K-Dog
Apr 1st, 2007, 11:18 PM
Serena is going to need to work on her footwork and movement for the clay. She was sluggish throughout Miami with her footwork and speed around the court expect in instances where she really needed to get to a ball. I'm sure she's working on it, but one of the most vital aspects of clay-court tennis is movement. She'll need to pick that up not only in order to beat Justine, but other top players on the dirt.

tennisjunky
Apr 1st, 2007, 11:34 PM
serena's not a rookie she knows what it takes. the first tournament will be getting the rust off. when is the last time she played a competitve match on clay? been a few years and no matter what she's rusty on clay. dont expect much from her at her first tourny, but by the time the french comes around she'll be peaking. going to be more surprised if she doesnt win.

Babolatpro880
Apr 1st, 2007, 11:38 PM
Since Serena won't be the No 2 seed it's entirely possible that they will have to play each other in the semis or quarter finals though (assuming that both win their matches in the earlier rounds).

No one said that they'd definitely meet in the final. The poster said "hope."

tennisjunky
Apr 1st, 2007, 11:44 PM
doesnt matter when they play, it will be fun. sometimes the best matches are the qfs or sfs. would be nice to have an epic final between two big names.

SAEKeithSerena
Apr 1st, 2007, 11:45 PM
can't wait to watch her play on clay. i really think she will win the title this year.

Orion
Apr 1st, 2007, 11:56 PM
We have to see her play on clay first. I can think of four players who have better odds than most to beat Serena on clay, but it's moot until we know how they all do this clay season.

archie4
Apr 2nd, 2007, 12:05 AM
What does Serena's pre-French Open schedule look like? I know she is playing Charleston a week from now. Is she signed on to Berlin or Rome (I doubt she would play both)?

Marshmallow
Apr 2nd, 2007, 12:16 AM
She has shown patience through out Miami. I see Serena getting better and better with more play, i think by RG her level of play will be better. I think if she stays fit, she has a great shot, even with Justine in the final.

And just curious, when nadia beat justine those two times on clay last year, was henin playing poorly, or did Petrova use the right kind of play. Kuznetsova also had match points against henin at RG 2005. Point is, Henin is not invincible on clay. The fact that she will be fav, may also work in Serena's favour.

Oh i can't wait. *explodes*

Wiggly
Apr 2nd, 2007, 12:20 AM
I think this season is goign to be VERY exciting with Serena and Justine fighting for every prestigious Title.

They will finish #1 and #2. Kinf of Federer and Nadal with huge lead over #3.

MrSerenaWilliams
Apr 2nd, 2007, 12:23 AM
What does Serena's pre-French Open schedule look like? I know she is playing Charleston a week from now. Is she signed on to Berlin or Rome (I doubt she would play both)?

She signed up for Berlin, and from Venus and Serena for Real, it seems a foregone conclusion that she'll play Roma. She LOVES it, and has never missed it, during a healthy season.

So Charleston, Berlin, Rome....(a lot like 2002 ;) )

Brooklyn90
Apr 2nd, 2007, 12:27 AM
and she also said in a press conference that she wanted to pick up a third clay court tournament.

sfselesfan
Apr 2nd, 2007, 12:37 AM
I think Shahar's game is well suited for clay. I think she's got a chance of taking Juju out.

SF

VeeReeDavJCap81
Apr 2nd, 2007, 12:40 AM
In 2002 Serena played close and lost a tiebreak in Berlin, then WON a close match in Rome. Then WON the RG, but Justine had lost in early rounds.

In 2003 at RG, Serena was leading 4-2 30-0 in the third when the "incident" occured. She then lost 5-7.

The only clay match tha Juju won going away was Charleston in 2003.

So, what I am saying is that Serena has been VERY competitive on clay with Juju. ...Even though her W-L vs Juju on this surface is 1-3.

Yup and that Charleston match was on green clay, go figure. All their matches on RED clay have been close.

spartanfan
Apr 2nd, 2007, 12:47 AM
Serena has been talking about winning RG again since the 2005 AO. I think she really wants it bad and will go into the clay court season with a real intent and focus. She may be a pit rusty in Charleston, but I wouldn't be suprised if she made the finals. I see Serena as a real contender for the RG title.

#1Davenport
Apr 2nd, 2007, 01:08 AM
I think Serena will do awesome in the clay court season... as long as her knee holds up. Its doing fine on the hard courts, but on clay the points are much more physical and longer. If her knee remains healthy, she is a definate threat for Roland Garros!

Derek.
Apr 2nd, 2007, 01:21 AM
She definitely is a favorite even at Roland Garros.

It would be interesting to see a match vs. Justine on clay.

CORIA01
Apr 2nd, 2007, 12:38 PM
I Really Do Not Give Her Many Chances To Win On Clay( Her Weak Surface) But Everything Is Possible

mauresmofan
Apr 2nd, 2007, 02:36 PM
Serena will have to play great to beat Justine in RG - Justine will make her work hard for it and Serena will have to prize that trophy out of Justine's cold dead hands!

hingis-seles
Apr 2nd, 2007, 03:02 PM
Serena still hasn't convinced me that she can win a second RG title. The stars fell right into place for her to pick up the one Slam that should have eluded her (a lot like how Hingis won Wimbledon in 1997). She's still a force to be reckoned with and I'll be watching her progress this clay-court season with a lot of interest. She's definitely brought the excitement back in women's tennis.

Volcana
Apr 2nd, 2007, 04:14 PM
We have to see her play on clay first. I can think of four players who have better odds than most to beat Serena on clay, but it's moot until we know how they all do this clay season.Four!?!? Can't think of four. Serena's a very accomplished clay court player, holding Tier I titles, and Roland Garros. And surely this weekend proved she can be successful resorted to an offspeed game against even the best of the other players.

Williams Rulez
Apr 2nd, 2007, 04:23 PM
i'd say Justine is the favourite on clay definitely.. Serena is not as fast as in 02, 03.. and movement is just so important on clay..

and given what Justine has accomplished on clay, I do think that Justine is the player to beat. Serena is possibly 2nd on that list though, there isn't a more accomplished player on clay after Justine that is active right now..

Jevel
Apr 2nd, 2007, 04:58 PM
Justine's best surface is clay, while it's Serena worst surface. Serena will have to pick up her conditioning and play higher percentage tennis(moving the ball around before hitting the kill shot). If she's playing well, she could go on a tear and win any event. However, if she's off, she'll struggle against the consisent players and it will even more tougher then.

I expect she'll do well at RG. However, I still like Justine, because she's so good on the clay.