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Volcana
Mar 31st, 2007, 07:41 PM
Did you check out the handshake between Justine and Serena? Long AND warm. I'd say any bad blood betweenthese two really is dead.

eck
Mar 31st, 2007, 07:42 PM
Oh no. That can't be.
Where will all the controversy go to?

Craigy
Mar 31st, 2007, 07:44 PM
Yeah, it was a really nice handshake :)

heartBREAKeRS
Mar 31st, 2007, 07:45 PM
Serena is the BEST

Kunal
Mar 31st, 2007, 07:46 PM
thats good to hear!

FrOzon
Mar 31st, 2007, 07:47 PM
Yeah, it was a really nice handshake :)

It was! :)

RunDown
Mar 31st, 2007, 07:53 PM
And they were chatting to each other during the ceremony :yeah:

SJW
Mar 31st, 2007, 07:56 PM
Respect to JH...she is quite a player. Not many people can say they've 6-0 Serena Williams.

kyk710
Mar 31st, 2007, 07:56 PM
And they were chatting to each other during the ceremony :yeah:

Yeah after Mary Joe interviewed Serena you could see Serena and Justine conversing and giggling about something - it was nice to see.

eck
Mar 31st, 2007, 08:02 PM
I'm so glad the Williams fan can get over the hand thing in SF2003. :worship: to all of you.


But I hope it doesn't last only today :o

TLP
Mar 31st, 2007, 08:06 PM
Yeah after Mary Joe interviewed Serena you could see Serena and Justine conversing and giggling about something - it was nice to see.

My hats off to Serena for her fight and determination. Justine was not to be denied that first set but Serena fought so hard and starting making my gal hit the extra shot and not the other way around. You are right about the convivial nature at the ceremony. If these two aren't the best women's tennis has to offer then who the heck is?

Slumpsova
Mar 31st, 2007, 08:08 PM
clip please :hearts:

iWill
Mar 31st, 2007, 08:09 PM
I think they were talking about how the trophy has changed cuz Serena was looking at it like what the hell is this?!?!? lol and i think she asked Justine if she knew they changed it..... but i could be wrong

Marshmallow
Mar 31st, 2007, 08:09 PM
Well, it was a respectful handshake, no doubting that. After almost four years, it’s to be expected that the feelings have cooled. However, how much can you really read into a handshake performed after a gruelling match, in front of a huge crowd and camera’s.

Serena’s use of the phrase ‘honest match’, and the possibility that serena fought harder than ever before, was due to her not wanting to lose to Justine because of the mild unsavoury feeling.

Yes, I do just like to argue, BUT, I personally don’t think the feelings are DEAD, but they have definetly sweetened.

That said, it was a great final touch to a great match. Well done to both ladies.

bandabou
Mar 31st, 2007, 08:19 PM
Uhum...that was a good warm heartfelt handshake. very nice.

sweetpeas
Mar 31st, 2007, 08:23 PM
They act like ADULTS should?

CrossCourt~Rally
Mar 31st, 2007, 08:24 PM
Did you check out the handshake between Justine and Serena? Long AND warm. I'd say any bad blood betweenthese two really is dead.

Yes it was :yeah:

Sefo
Mar 31st, 2007, 08:28 PM
No, I think "The Hand" was replaced by the "2nd fall". It looked to me like the Murray - Haas incident.

papru
Mar 31st, 2007, 08:28 PM
I have to disagree...
Serena was obviously very kind but JH rather stayed cold

TomasUli
Mar 31st, 2007, 08:30 PM
I'm so glad the Williams fan can get over the hand thing in SF2003. :worship: to all of you.


what happened between these two in 2003? I must have missed that part... didn't know there was bad blood between them. Can someone explain? thanks. :yeah:

No Name Face
Mar 31st, 2007, 08:33 PM
it seemed like a really nice handshake. they've both grown up and it was great to see justine be nice and friendly (and serena reciprocating). they were only like 19 or 20 when the incident happened...i think they're over it and truly respect each other.

i hate to say it but i really love justine's game. i think she's quite a fighter and a champion. i just realized how hard of a life she has had and she's a pretty decent person despite it all. i hope for more great matches between the two.

eck
Mar 31st, 2007, 08:33 PM
what happened between these two in 2003? I must have missed that part... didn't know there was bad blood between them. Can someone explain? thanks. :yeah:

Down 4-2 and 30-15 I think in RG2003 SF, Justine put her hand up for a longer time before Serena served. But Serena had already started her motion and couldn't stop. The umpire didn't see it, and called a second serve.

Kim's_fan_4ever
Mar 31st, 2007, 08:34 PM
The handshake was warm? I got different impression :shrug: Justine was rather cold, it was Serena who told to her some words, Justine only congratulated her.

.ivy.
Mar 31st, 2007, 08:36 PM
i hate to say it but i really love justine's game. i think she's quite a fighter and a champion. i just realized how hard of a life she has had and she's a pretty decent person despite it all. i hope for more great matches between the two.

word. 2007 looks like a great year for women's tennis.

Sefo
Mar 31st, 2007, 08:36 PM
Serena is always warm to everybody. She always seem to want to say something more to them, but they always step further away.

hablo
Mar 31st, 2007, 08:38 PM
Well, it was a respectful handshake, no doubting that. After almost four years, it’s to be expected that the feelings have cooled. However, how much can you really read into a handshake performed after a gruelling match, in front of a huge crowd and camera’s.

Serena’s use of the phrase ‘honest match’, and the possibility that serena fought harder than ever before, was due to her not wanting to lose to Justine because of the mild unsavoury feeling.

Yes, I do just like to argue, BUT, I personally don’t think the feelings are DEAD, but they have definetly sweetened.

That said, it was a great final touch to a great match. Well done to both ladies.

I agree with this post.

jimbo mack
Mar 31st, 2007, 08:39 PM
it was certainly warm compared to previous ones ;)

_Cell-chuk
Mar 31st, 2007, 08:40 PM
i hate to say it but i really love justine's game. i think she's quite a fighter and a champion. i just realized how hard of a life she has had and she's a pretty decent person despite it all. i hope for more great matches between the two.


Juju deserves all the credit. She has no mom, no family, no husband, no nothing to depend on at the moment. Only Carlos is with her. (And her fans of course) But when you see Serena's camp and compare it with Justine's, you can't help but feel sorry for her.
Steffi always had her mom with her no matter what, Monica her dad, Williams sisters their parents, Jennifer her dad. Justine stands alone. Considering the difficulties she has faced in her life, Juju deserves sll the credit.

By the way, an excellent match. Congrats Serena. What a fighter!:worship:

Bruno71
Mar 31st, 2007, 08:42 PM
It was a very warm overture from Serena, and perhaps Justine went through the motions on the handshake. But she had to have been disappointed the way she lost. I don't blame her. She remained poised, congratulated Serena, and made no excuses whatsoever.

I think Justine's really grown as a sportswoman since she's had her few questionable incidents. And I've always respected her and have always loved her game.

TomasUli
Mar 31st, 2007, 08:42 PM
Down 4-2 and 30-15 I think in RG2003 SF, Justine put her hand up for a longer time before Serena served. But Serena had already started her motion and couldn't stop. The umpire didn't see it, and called a second serve.

Thanks a lot. Now I remember that incident... didn't think it was the incident they were talking about, since someone referred to it in another thread as justine doing some cheating... yikes, some people sure like to blow things out of proportion.

Dunlop1
Mar 31st, 2007, 08:45 PM
I think they were talking about how the trophy has changed cuz Serena was looking at it like what the hell is this?!?!? lol and i think she asked Justine if she knew they changed it..... but i could be wrong


I thought this was exactly what they were talking about either.
But why would she ask Justine. She has never been close to seeing it before :devil:

JUST KIDDING!!!!!

Henin's the best
Mar 31st, 2007, 08:47 PM
Serena said in an interview that they go on well with each other now.

OrdinaryfoolisNJ
Mar 31st, 2007, 08:51 PM
Thanks a lot. Now I remember that incident... didn't think it was the incident they were talking about, since someone referred to it in another thread as justine doing some cheating... yikes, some people sure like to blow things out of proportion.

CBS showed the controversial point. I didn't see Justine's hand do anything until after the point was over. Still, that was long ago. This is now. Serena lives too much in the moment to let the past bother her.

TLP
Mar 31st, 2007, 08:52 PM
Serena is always warm to everybody. She always seem to want to say something more to them, but they always step further away.

Serena does have a big warm personality to go with her big game. Justine is a much more reserved individual with a breath taking game. What I saw was a genuine exchange to make fans of both women proud. Someone posted that Justine was cold. To say Justine was cold doesn't jibe with what happened after the match ended. Win or lose Justine is normally friendly but not overly so. Serena was in a great mood which was to be expected and Justine laughed with Serena and the handsake was indeed warm. The match had drama and was extremely competitive and that's good for the WTA.

~Eclipsed~
Mar 31st, 2007, 09:06 PM
Very nice handshake from Serena. You could tell she put RG 2003 behind her.:)

2moretogo
Mar 31st, 2007, 09:18 PM
They act like ADULTS should?[/QUOTE]

:drink: Your avatar! (dead).

[QUOTE=aod2k9;10412003]:) I saw the handshake.

For those who didn't see it, it was Serena slurping the confidience and talent right out of Justine.

:) Expect Justine to drop out of the top 200 very soon.
:rolls: :rolls: :rolls:
This is exactly what this thread needed. Pure comedy.

Serena does have a big warm personality to go with her big game. Justine is a much more reserved individual with a breath taking game. What I saw was a genuine exchange to make fans of both women proud. Someone posted that Justine was cold. To say Justine was cold doesn't jibe with what happened after the match ended. Win or lose Justine is normally friendly but not overly so. Serena was in a great mood which was to be expected and Justine laughed with Serena and the handsake was indeed warm. The match had drama and was extremely competitive and that's good for the WTA.

:yeah: One can only hope. But it is unlikely, you know people have to fight about something.

.Andrew.
Mar 31st, 2007, 09:25 PM
Yeah, the handshake was really nice to see :)

Mina Vagante
Mar 31st, 2007, 09:54 PM
ooooooo i love the handshake

TomasUli
Mar 31st, 2007, 09:56 PM
CBS showed the controversial point. I didn't see Justine's hand do anything until after the point was over. Still, that was long ago. This is now. Serena lives too much in the moment to let the past bother her.

She's a strong girl. I hope we'll enjoy many more years of Serena playing at her best. :hearts:

DOUBLEFIST
Mar 31st, 2007, 10:25 PM
I'm so glad the Williams fan can get over the hand thing in SF2003. :worship: to all of you.


But I hope it doesn't last only today :o

Speaking ONLY for myself, it's quite easy to be magnanimous today. ;)

Honestly, my contention has never been that their is "bad blood" between them. My contention is that Serena hasn't forgotten the hand incident. I honestly believe that until she wins the French again or- at the very least- beats Justine there, that memory will be a big source of motivation for her.

However, I'm sure todays victory takes a little bit more of the bitterness out of '03.

In addition, it woud be utterly ignorant for Serena to take an antagonistic posture toward Justine. If she did, she would walk into RG with the crowd practically calling for her head.

frontier
Mar 31st, 2007, 10:37 PM
i think they are cordial,that was nice to see that they have no animosity towards each other.justine played a wonderful game its unfortunate she lost its saddens me that she doesnt have anybody to call family in her life,i really wonder what happened with her family.
after divorcing pierre she looks relaxed and smiles more.
i think they have realised that its just a game and there is more to life.

Marcus1979
Apr 1st, 2007, 04:00 AM
Thanks a lot. Now I remember that incident... didn't think it was the incident they were talking about, since someone referred to it in another thread as justine doing some cheating... yikes, some people sure like to blow things out of proportion.

the french crowd had a large say in that match also tho

things like cheering and applauding on double faults and unforced errors by Serena.

and booing when she had umpire check marks.

I think the issue many held was that Justine never admitted that she had her hand up during that first serve

but it was 4 years ago and I am sure all williams fans have moved on now or at least the vast majority of them

Jakeev
Apr 1st, 2007, 05:41 AM
If either player is still bothered by that event in 2003, than neither player has grown and matured.

Serena and Justine have gone through a lot of stuff since they met last 3 1/2 years ago. Serena: injury woes and a family death and Justine: also injury and health woes plus her recent divorce.

God bless them both on a great tournament.

spokenword73
Apr 1st, 2007, 06:00 AM
http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/0331/ten_a_williams_275.jpg

tennisbum79
Apr 1st, 2007, 06:18 AM
CBS showed the controversial point. I didn't see Justine's hand do anything until after the point was over. Still, that was long ago. This is now. Serena lives too much in the moment to let the past bother her.

Yes, it is now in the past, but that does not mean we should change the fact of what happened.
You seem to imply here that Justine did nothing wrong.
CBS may have shown it out sequence, it does not mean she raised her hand after the point is over.
I think this is one of the reason the issue could not die.
Some fans were trying to absolve Justine or just minimizing the whole incident as insignificant.
Or simply distort the fact of what actually happen.

Remember Justine was constantly asked by sport writers about this incident long after RG, because she refused to acknowledge it.
And they did not think she was telling the truth.

Brett.
Apr 1st, 2007, 08:11 AM
Anyone got a video of this match? :D

gladysharon
Apr 1st, 2007, 08:26 AM
Well, it was a respectful handshake, no doubting that. After almost four years, it’s to be expected that the feelings have cooled. However, how much can you really read into a handshake performed after a gruelling match, in front of a huge crowd and camera’s.

Serena’s use of the phrase ‘honest match’, and the possibility that serena fought harder than ever before, was due to her not wanting to lose to Justine because of the mild unsavoury feeling.

Yes, I do just like to argue, BUT, I personally don’t think the feelings are DEAD, but they have definetly sweetened.

That said, it was a great final touch to a great match. Well done to both ladies.


have to agree with you.

shirley
Apr 1st, 2007, 10:34 AM
word. 2007 looks like a great year for women's tennis.

I agree

hectopascal
Apr 1st, 2007, 11:35 AM
... yikes, some people sure like to blow things out of proportion.


Haha! Tell me about it :lol: !