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supergrunt
Mar 20th, 2007, 12:19 AM
If they both get to this point.. I have never seen Bammer play.. well I have but I don't remember... what is her game like?

Wannabeknowitall
Mar 20th, 2007, 12:32 AM
She's playing her best but to not enjoy that momentum by being a seeded player as she should at this tournament isn't going to help.

Her draw is tougher than it should be and she would have never played Serena in the third round as a seed.
I think any player would be dissapointed to not finally see their results shown in a draw that they have earned.
I think she'll give her best attempt but it won't be enough.

Bam Bam's a feisty player.
She doesn't beat herself, well not anymore.
Think a lefty Nathalie Dechy with better movement, more variety, a better backhand, and a little more umph to her shots and you have Bam Bam.

trufanjay
Mar 20th, 2007, 12:36 AM
Serena is not losing to Bammer that early in this event. She doesn't like losing to the same player twice in a row. If Serena is playing well she will destroy Bammer. I'm sure many people wish Bammer would win but let's think here.

.Andrew.
Mar 20th, 2007, 12:44 AM
I actually think that Serena and Bammer should both make it to the Third Round. Bammer has a tough task in beating Lucie but I think she can do it. Serena should make it to the Third Round quite comfortably. I pick Serena to win this one.

mauresmofan
Mar 20th, 2007, 12:47 AM
Saw Bammer play last week and she really makes opponents work for every point. Thought she really should have beaten Kuz but lapses in concentration cost her dearly. Serena should beat her but "should" and "will" are different things!

auntie janie
Mar 20th, 2007, 12:50 AM
Serena is not losing to Bammer that early in this event. She doesn't like losing to the same player twice in a row. If Serena is playing well she will destroy Bammer. I'm sure many people wish Bammer would win but let's think here.

Yep.

Cat's Pajamas
Mar 20th, 2007, 01:05 AM
Bammer will tank her prior match only so she can hold her H2H record over Serena. :p

winone23
Mar 20th, 2007, 01:06 AM
Serena

John.
Mar 20th, 2007, 01:07 AM
Serena will get revenge

SM
Mar 20th, 2007, 04:50 AM
Serena is going to win with all the confidence she should have compared to the beginning of the year. It seems like Bammer has the type of game to give her a tough match though, so im sure it will be a fun match to watch!!

MrSerenaWilliams
Mar 20th, 2007, 04:53 AM
Serena likes revenge :devil: She says vengance is for God, but she knows she likes paying people back. :yeah:

And if a rusty Rena was up a break in the 3rd set, a rejuvinated fired up, AO WINNING Rena, should dust her ;) :hearts:

Lulu.
Mar 20th, 2007, 04:53 AM
Serena WILL NOT lose to Bammer again.

LudwigDvorak
Mar 20th, 2007, 04:54 AM
I'd rather see Safarova try and beat Serena to make up for how close she was in Hobart. But if it is Bammer v. Serena, :lol:.

akosiirwyn
Mar 20th, 2007, 04:57 AM
whoever serena plays in the third round, she'll most likely beat them.

kittyking
Mar 20th, 2007, 04:57 AM
Better hope that guy doesnt shine light in Bammers eyes when shes serving :p

RJWCapriati
Mar 20th, 2007, 05:02 AM
Williams in 2

LucasArg
Mar 20th, 2007, 05:03 AM
Serena will prevail this time.:D

hectopascal
Mar 20th, 2007, 05:06 AM
Why have so many people voted for Bammer!? Yes, she's good, but I'm sure Serena has her measure......And I think it will actually be a Serena vs Safarova showdown.

tomasandLucie
Mar 20th, 2007, 05:32 AM
I dont think bammer will get into the third round as i would like a safarova vs serena showdown but if it was I would say serena all the way :)

~Eclipsed~
Mar 20th, 2007, 05:35 AM
Serena 6-3, 6-3

It will be a tough two sets for her, but i think Serena will make sure she gets revenge on her! She's usually pretty good at doing that.

Wayn77
Mar 20th, 2007, 05:40 AM
Sybille Bammer 6-3 6-3

http://photos.signonsandiego.com/gallery1.5/albums/acura2006/UTI0968410_1.jpg

Mother_Marjorie
Mar 20th, 2007, 05:44 AM
She's a bad bammer jammer.

DOUBLEFIST
Mar 20th, 2007, 05:50 AM
Why have so many people voted for Bammer!?

You really don't know why?

You have to consider at least half of them as wishful thinking as oppossed to genuine opinion.

If this was a public poll, she wouldn't have nearly as many votes, because people would be more concern about not looking like idiots then hoping Serena would lose.

Lulu.
Mar 20th, 2007, 05:55 AM
You have to consider at least half of them as wishful thinking as oppossed to genuine opinion.

If this was a public poll, she wouldn't have nearly as many votes, because people would be more concern about not looking like idiots then hoping Serena would lose.

Exactly. Im sure most if not all the people who voted for Bammer are Serena haters

cellophane
Mar 20th, 2007, 06:08 AM
You really don't know why?

You have to consider at least half of them as wishful thinking as oppossed to genuine opinion.

If this was a public poll, she wouldn't have nearly as many votes, because people would be more concern about not looking like idiots then hoping Serena would lose.

No, I actually voted for Bammer especially for supergrunt. People vote for their favourites in public polls too without any concern that they'll look like idiots either way... :shrug: IT applies to EVERYONE.

Stamp Paid
Mar 20th, 2007, 06:14 AM
Serena usually gets her revenge.

DOUBLEFIST
Mar 20th, 2007, 06:17 AM
No, I actually voted for Bammer especially for supergrunt. People vote for their favourites in public polls too without any concern that they'll look like idiots either way... :shrug: IT applies to EVERYONE.

:lol: Yeah, keep tellin' yourself that.

Highlandman
Mar 20th, 2007, 06:18 AM
Serena 6-4,6-2

serena_fan
Mar 20th, 2007, 06:19 AM
oF curse Serena Williams

Xian
Mar 20th, 2007, 06:24 AM
well, the Williams fans open their mouth as far as they did in Hobart before the match. And we all know what happened :devil: :devil:

cellophane
Mar 20th, 2007, 06:24 AM
:lol: Yeah, keep tellin' yourself that.

Oh, I don't need to be telling myself that... because it's true... i.e. in this thread most of the people who voted for Venus to win are her fans (http://www.wtaworld.com/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=13382). In the "Who is the best?" threads most people vote for their favourite. I guess those people must be idiots too? :scratch:

Ben.
Mar 20th, 2007, 06:28 AM
Well IF it does happen (and that's a big if, cause safarova could very well win against bammer & this match up wouldn't happen), I would pick Serena, there is no way that she will let Bammer win again (even if she has to win it in 3 tie break sets). but who knows.

-sugi-
Mar 20th, 2007, 06:39 AM
I think it will be Sybille, honestly. I saw some of her matches in Indian Wells on TV and I was really impressed by how she improved so much since last time I watched her play.

Jeff
Mar 20th, 2007, 06:40 AM
Definetly an interesting draw for the sisters

Jeff
Mar 20th, 2007, 06:43 AM
I also find it funny that some of you think that Bammer will win, just because she defeated Serena in her first tournament back. Considering she is now the most recent Grand Slam champion, and in Miami, I think Serena is the clear favorite if they do meet..

DOUBLEFIST
Mar 20th, 2007, 06:45 AM
Oh, I don't need to be telling myself that... because it's true... i.e. in this thread most of the people who voted for Venus to win are her fans (http://www.wtaworld.com/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=13382). In the "Who is the best?" threads most people vote for their favourite. I guess those people must be idiots too? :scratch:

Hardly an adequate example considering it's a poll that came out BEFORE the draw. I wonder what the results would be now.

And anyway it's certainly, imo, more likely that Venus would win than Bammer beating Serena AGAIN. :shrug: Hey, but maybe that's just me.

cellophane
Mar 20th, 2007, 06:48 AM
Hardly an adequate example considering it's a poll that came out BEFORE the draw. I wonder what the results would be now.

And? Especially since it came out before the draw... that makes the whole prediction even more stupid. At any rate... there've been tons of other polls.

And anyway it's certainly, imo, more likely that Venus would win than Bammer beating Serena AGAIN. :shrug: Hey, but maybe that's just me.I didn't say it was less likely. I said that people in polls here often vote for their favourites.

cellophane
Mar 20th, 2007, 06:50 AM
I also find it funny that some of you think that Bammer will win, just because she defeated Serena in her first tournament back. Considering she is now the most recent Grand Slam champion, and in Miami, I think Serena is the clear favorite if they do meet..

Nobody knows how Serena will play in Miami. Predictions of any kind are pointless so people can vote however they want to. :shrug: Sybille could beat Serena. :shrug:

DOUBLEFIST
Mar 20th, 2007, 06:59 AM
I said that people in polls here often vote for their favourites.

So all these Bammer votes are from Bammer faves??! :haha: :rolleyes: Please!

The point I make, and it still holds true, is that people are voting more AGAINST Serena than FOR Bammer. And just because it's done elsewhere doesn't make it any smarter.

Your previous example might have been more appropriate if you picked another example other than Venus- former #1, 3-time winner and multiple grandslam champion- Williams. Venus is certainly more capable of winning this tournament than Bammer is of beating Serena again, IMHO.

IceSkaTennisFan
Mar 20th, 2007, 07:01 AM
Bammer will need to beat Loit and then Safarova to get to Serena. We'll see if it happens.

cellophane
Mar 20th, 2007, 07:04 AM
So all these Bammer votes are from Bammer faves??! :haha: :rolleyes: Please!

I didn't say that... But people do vote for who they like more / hate less.


The point I make, and it still holds true, is that people are voting more AGAINST Serena than FOR Bammer. And just because it's done elsewhere doesn't make it any smarter.So? Why can't people vote for Sybille? You don't actually know why there are so many votes for her. At any rate, your point that a lot of people vote for her because they dislike Serena holds about as much water as mine about people voting for Serena because they like her. It's a pointless poll because iot's unknown how either player will play so people can vote for who they want.


Your previous example might have been more appropriate if you picked another example other than Venus- former #1, 3-time winner and multiple grandslam champion- Williams. Venus is certainly more capable of winning this tournament than Bammer is of beating Serena again, IMHO.Sybille is capable of beating Serena. Again, I didn't say anything about Venus being more or less capable of winning it... if anything it's questionable to vote for her winning it after a win at a Tier III. Who knows what form she'll be in. I didn't say she couldn't do it. But most of her fans voted for the option of winning.

DOUBLEFIST
Mar 20th, 2007, 07:11 AM
But people do vote for who they [B]like more / hate less.

You've made my point.

I would only add that they do this even MORE SO when anonymous.

cellophane
Mar 20th, 2007, 07:15 AM
You've made my point.

Well... by that token Serena fans vote for Serena. Of course, they may actually believe she'll win, but Bammer isn't a nobody and nobody knows Serena's form... at any rate it goes both ways.

ALYOUNA
Mar 20th, 2007, 07:30 AM
I think Safarova will beat Bammer
come on Lucie

cellophane
Mar 20th, 2007, 07:33 AM
I think Safarova will beat Bammer
come on Lucie

That's why this poll is pretty much worthless. :o

hingis2002cn
Mar 20th, 2007, 07:34 AM
Bammer
6-4 6-0

stefi62
Mar 20th, 2007, 08:10 AM
Go Sybille! :bounce:

Emina.
Mar 20th, 2007, 08:16 AM
Serena will win in 2.

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hwanmig
Mar 20th, 2007, 09:51 AM
You really don't know why?

You have to consider at least half of them as wishful thinking as oppossed to genuine opinion.

If this was a public poll, she wouldn't have nearly as many votes, because people would be more concern about not looking like idiots then hoping Serena would lose.

Sorry I am not some Williams ass:tape: kisser eeeww!, Bammer in two and I mean it.

kittyking
Mar 20th, 2007, 10:35 AM
See my post at the bottom of page 1

tennnisfannn
Mar 20th, 2007, 12:30 PM
Anytime serena fronts up against a left hander, I worry.

Ballbasher
Mar 20th, 2007, 01:22 PM
Safarova should beat Bammer like Radwanska should have beaten Safarova
If it really happens Ree 6--2 6-1

MH0861
Mar 20th, 2007, 01:55 PM
Serena shouldn't have even lost to Bammer in Hobart, wasn't she up a set and a break? I don't see her squandering such a lead in Miami. Bammer has a ridiculously hard draw as it is - Loit is no pushover, and then Safarova who's been playing great. Plus, she may experience a letdown after her superb Indian Wells. Serena beats any of them, I think.

Viktymise
Mar 20th, 2007, 02:17 PM
Safarova will beat Bammer ;)

Tennisaddict
Mar 20th, 2007, 02:32 PM
Well this is a different circumstance. The Serena in Hobart was still rusty and coming in to her own. The Serena of now is a confident OZ winner and should dismiss Bammer in straights.

ioni
Mar 20th, 2007, 02:38 PM
i would be surprised if Bammer wins this time !

Wannabeknowitall
Mar 20th, 2007, 02:40 PM
So all these Bammer votes are from Bammer faves??! :haha: :rolleyes: Please!



Maybe they are.
I think many people who saw that picture of her with her adorable daughter became instantaneous fans.

I'm fans of both. I only picked Serena because I do feel that Bam Bam will be a little dissapointed that she's not a seed.
Some of these players have worked so hard to get the benefits of the top players.
She's at a career high 30 and she should have gotten a Bye if the updated ranking were used like last year.

ce
Mar 20th, 2007, 02:42 PM
serena 6/0 6/0

bandabou
Mar 20th, 2007, 02:48 PM
hmmm....tough match, hope Serena comes ready.

bandabou
Mar 20th, 2007, 02:51 PM
hmmm....tough match, hope Serena comes ready.

Wannabeknowitall
Mar 20th, 2007, 02:51 PM
Serena shouldn't have even lost to Bammer in Hobart, wasn't she up a set and a break? I don't see her squandering such a lead in Miami. Bammer has a ridiculously hard draw as it is - Loit is no pushover, and then Safarova who's been playing great. Plus, she may experience a letdown after her superb Indian Wells. Serena beats any of them, I think.

It's not that tough of a draw.
She's a lefty.
Why would playing another lefty or two be a big deal?

Loit has been playing well but her game isn't made for medium pace hard courts like Bam Bam's and neither really is Lucie's game.
Bam Bam won against Lucie almost four years ago to win one of her ITF titles and backed it up on a faster court at San Diego last year.

She should be able to survive the lefty onslaught.

Lola´s_Theme
Mar 20th, 2007, 02:55 PM
Serena 6-4 6-2 :bounce:

SAEKeithSerena
Mar 20th, 2007, 03:18 PM
Serena in 2 EASY sets

Craigy
Mar 20th, 2007, 03:39 PM
Serena. I hope she gets to play Bammer instead of Lucie...

MH0861
Mar 20th, 2007, 03:43 PM
It's not that tough of a draw.
She's a lefty.
Why would playing another lefty or two be a big deal?

Loit has been playing well but her game isn't made for medium pace hard courts like Bam Bam's and neither really is Lucie's game.
Bam Bam won against Lucie almost four years ago to win one of her ITF titles and backed it up on a faster court at San Diego last year.

She should be able to survive the lefty onslaught.

It's not that, I just think out of everyone to play in the first two rounds, she has it very tough. I mean, she could've played some Scrub WC in the first round and a seed like Muller or Kirilenko instead!

jazar
Mar 20th, 2007, 04:02 PM
bammer is playing soo much better than when she crushed serena earlier this year, so this win for sybille will be even easier

VishaalMaria
Mar 20th, 2007, 04:04 PM
bammer is playing soo much better than when she crushed serena earlier this year, so this win for sybille will be even easier

Serena is playing a thousand times better than in Hobart and I wouldnt say being up a break in the third set and losing was a crushing.

We'll see though. Don't you ever get sick of being ALWAYS wrong when it comes to the Williams sisters?

Mina Vagante
Mar 20th, 2007, 04:05 PM
serena

Mina Vagante
Mar 20th, 2007, 04:06 PM
bammer is playing soo much better than when she crushed serena earlier this year, so this win for sybille will be even easier

your comments are soo stupid they ACTUALLY make me laugh now

pigam
Mar 20th, 2007, 04:06 PM
if savarova plays like she did in Paris :eek:
I see her against Serena rather than Bammer, but that's just my opinion ;)

ewbangkok
Mar 20th, 2007, 04:06 PM
are they meeting again?

jazar
Mar 20th, 2007, 04:07 PM
Serena is playing a thousand times better than in Hobart and I wouldnt say being up a break in the third set and losing was a crushing.

face it, bammer is a superior player. for her this will be like a training match

VishaalMaria
Mar 20th, 2007, 04:09 PM
face it, bammer is a superior player. for her this will be like a training match

:tape: :tape: :tape: :tape:

Please PLEASE!!!! Tell me you are joking?

Why am i even asking you must be!! :lol:

Mina Vagante
Mar 20th, 2007, 04:09 PM
face it, bammer is a superior player. for her this will be like a training match

can i ask who your favourite player is?

jazar
Mar 20th, 2007, 04:11 PM
:tape: :tape: :tape: :tape:

Please PLEASE!!!! Tell me you are joking?

Why am i even asking you must be!! :lol:

no, i never joke

can i ask who your favourite player is?

i suppose so. my favourite player is agnieska radwanska

Mina Vagante
Mar 20th, 2007, 04:21 PM
no, i never joke



i suppose so. my favourite player is agnieska radwanska

this is how stupid your comment sounded. SABINE KLASCHKA, is a supiroir player than radwanska. you MUST be joking with that comment?

jazar
Mar 20th, 2007, 04:27 PM
this is how stupid your comment sounded. SABINE KLASCHKA, is a supiroir player than radwanska. you MUST be joking with that comment?

how can i be joking with your comment. :weirdo:

why dont you just accept that not everyone likes serena williams and move on

Mina Vagante
Mar 20th, 2007, 04:30 PM
how can i be joking with your comment. :weirdo:

why dont you just accept that not everyone likes serena williams and move on

you may not LIKE her but it's another story to TELLING people that sybille bammer is a superior player than serena. how IN ANY WAY does this make sense?

PAVANILAI
Mar 20th, 2007, 04:30 PM
serena's chance is bigger

jazar
Mar 20th, 2007, 04:36 PM
you may not LIKE her but it's another story to TELLING people that sybille bammer is a superior player than serena. how IN ANY WAY does this make sense?

http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/2/players/playerprofiles/playerheadtoheaddetail.asp?PlayerID=20463&Player1ID=230234

based on h2h bammer is superior. so my comment is backed up

http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/2/players/playerprofiles/playerheadtoheaddetail.asp?PlayerID=110462&Player1ID=312251&x=6&y=9

however, yours about klaschka and radwanska is not :p

VishaalMaria
Mar 20th, 2007, 04:36 PM
you may not LIKE her but it's another story to TELLING people that sybille bammer is a superior player than serena. how IN ANY WAY does this make sense?

One win over Serena and suddenly people get arrogant. Just leave it Serenafanross. Let Serena do the talking like she did at the Australian Open.

Mina Vagante
Mar 20th, 2007, 04:44 PM
One win over Serena and suddenly people get arrogant. Just leave it Serenafanross. Let Serena do the talking like she did at the Australian Open.

:rocker:

jazar
Mar 20th, 2007, 04:49 PM
One win over Serena and suddenly people get arrogant. Just leave it Serenafanross. Let Serena do the talking like she did at the Australian Open.

so you are saying sybille bammer is arrogant

DOUBLEFIST
Mar 20th, 2007, 04:58 PM
why dont you just accept that not everyone likes serena williams and move on

This is the PERFECT example of the results of the poll and illustrates the points I was making in my argument with Cellophane!

Many (not all) are voting the way they do simply because they don't "like" Serena. Jazar being chief among them.

jazar
Mar 20th, 2007, 04:59 PM
This is the PERFECT example of the results of the poll and illustrates the points I was making in my argument with Cellophane!

Many (not all) are voting the way they do simply because they don't "like" Serena. Jazar being chief among them.

i didnt vote actually

Direwolf
Mar 20th, 2007, 05:12 PM
Like Capriati
Like Peer
Like Bammer...

Serena usually have trouble against defensive player...
I think that she is ready this time...
ready to battle it out in 3 sets...

afterall
Mar 20th, 2007, 05:18 PM
LOL so many bammertards are arguing and lobbying for Bammer but it would be nice to see how many of them can put their money where their mouths are and bet against Serena when/if they will play.

AnywhereButHome
Mar 20th, 2007, 05:31 PM
Serena will beat Bammer

wtatennisballer
Mar 20th, 2007, 05:44 PM
I think Serena would end it quickly in 2 sets, hitting winners left and right by using power and intimidation against Bammer.
On the other hand ,Safarova's strategy against Bammer would be completely different. Lucie will have to play a long 3 setter and try to wear down Bammer by not trying to end points quickly and letting Bammer get tired and choke eventually.

Nicolás89
Mar 20th, 2007, 05:48 PM
i blindly believe that bammer will pull through this match :D (in three)

Brooklyn90
Mar 20th, 2007, 06:13 PM
how can i be joking with your comment. :weirdo:

why dont you just accept that not everyone likes serena williams and move on

You have been wrong on everything the Williams Sister has done this year, you thought Serena was going to losing in every round at the AO and Venus wasn't going to win Memphis. So please shut up already :wavey:

jazar
Mar 20th, 2007, 06:20 PM
So please shut up already :wavey:

you asked so nicely, but no. forums are about the expressing of opinions and that is precisely what i am doing and there is nothing wrong with it.

Xian
Mar 20th, 2007, 06:27 PM
well we shouldnt forget Loit, who on a good day can beat many players as well

Lulu.
Mar 20th, 2007, 06:30 PM
Bammer will tank her prior match only so she can hold her H2H record over Serena. :p
:lol:

Yeah she realizes shes one of very few players who has a H2H lead over Serena

disco_rage
Mar 20th, 2007, 06:39 PM
Who knows?

Serena hasn't played since the Australian Open. Bammer reached first Tier I SF last week and played a decent match against Kuznetsova.

I think Serena will win in straight sets but ya never know.

Serena thought everyone (press or whatever) was against her at the Australian Open, saying she was out of shape etc. and that obviously fired her up! Big time! But now everyone is expecting Serena to win everything, maybe the fire won't be there for Miami. Who knows?

Denise4925
Mar 20th, 2007, 07:16 PM
:lol: Yeah, keep tellin' yourself that.

:lol: He actually thinks he has some credibility. :p

IceSkaTennisFan
Mar 22nd, 2007, 11:26 PM
bammer is playing soo much better than when she crushed serena earlier this year, so this win for sybille will be even easier
face it, bammer is a superior player. for her this will be like a training match
:tape:

Lulu.
Mar 22nd, 2007, 11:27 PM
bammer is playing soo much better than when she crushed serena earlier this year, so this win for sybille will be even easier

Oh really? :rolleyes:

Tenis Srbija
Mar 22nd, 2007, 11:48 PM
BUMP... So this thread lasted long :rolls:

Loit - Bammer 4-6 6-3 6-1

Nicolás89
Mar 22nd, 2007, 11:49 PM
bammer :bowdown:

MrSerenaWilliams
Mar 23rd, 2007, 12:44 AM
:lol: She wanted to be able to say she's got a winning H2H over Ree :lol:

In The Zone
Mar 23rd, 2007, 01:18 AM
Bammer tanked on purpose!

cellophane
Mar 23rd, 2007, 01:21 AM
No, we didn't know it was coming. :lol: